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132 all out. Remarkable score. Thnk if we win, we're through to the Super Eight as well.
Unless Zimbabwe beat Pakistan too. If we win (and its about evens on betfair) Pakistan are definitely out
Réiteoir
17/03/2007, 5:08 PM
Just had Alison Mitchell on the radio spelling out what would happen if Ireland pulled off the improbable and won.
Ireland would be all but through - and Pakistan would be on the next plane home
Bit of moisture in the air being reported - as the covers are being brought on the protect the strip.
This could work against us - it's not a cut and dried thing yet...
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 5:09 PM
Ireland contributed more runs to the Pakistan innings than any individual Pakistani batsman. 29 extras versus a top score of 27 by Kamran Akmal. :mad:
Pretty much neck-and-neck as of now. All Ireland have to do is bat the 50, tick along at three per over and they're home. But I have an inkling that Pakistan's pace will be too much.
Great pic from cricinfo
[cliché]A good start is crucial[/cliché]
India in trouble against Bangladesh too.
was watching the highlights on sky news and one of the catches by one of the irish lads (cant remember if he was one of the O'Brien brothers) is one of the greatest I have ever seen !!!! BRILLIANT
Louth4sam
17/03/2007, 5:52 PM
What is the super eights? Quarter finals?
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 5:53 PM
Think the top two in each group go into two more groups of four, with the top two again going to the knock out semis.
Ireland have come out to bat 10 for 1 at the moment
theleprechaun
17/03/2007, 6:23 PM
i know we are doing well but i have no idea how the scoring works. anyone like to try and explain it to me?
the answer could be a very long mail so will only explain this match. Basically because they are all out for 132. Ireland have to score 133. as it stands Ireland are 41 for 2. The 2 means that 2 players have been bowled out.
geysir
17/03/2007, 7:06 PM
Drinks break :)
onceahoop
17/03/2007, 7:06 PM
Ireland contributed more runs to the Pakistan innings than any individual Pakistani batsman. 29 extras versus a top score of 27 by Kamran Akmal. :mad:
Pretty much neck-and-neck as of now. All Ireland have to do is bat the 50, tick along at three per over and they're home. But I have an inkling that Pakistan's pace will be too much.
Nail on the head Sheridan. Pakistan appealing everything. Little Ginger should smash one back down their throats and shut them up. 44 for 2 of 14.3 overs. Just keep ticking along boys.
All Ireland have to do is bat the 50, tick along at three per over and they're home. .
thats exactly how is going right now, 45 for 2 from 15 overs.
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 7:44 PM
66/3 - half way there from 21.4 overs.
Pakistan were 66/5, which can only be a boost as well.
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 7:45 PM
66-3, Porterfield chops Hafeez onto his own leg stump. Not necessarily a bad thing, depending on how Botha does. Although Ireland have plenty of overs to play with, 13 off 50 balls is a bit much (or little.) He was utterly becalmed and contributing next to nothing. If these two can put on 30-40 we should be home and hosed. Still in the balance.
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 7:54 PM
Botha out for a duck, Ireland in huge trouble at 70/4. Awful, awful decision. Bat was nowhere near it. Probably cost Ireland the game.
tricky_colour
17/03/2007, 7:56 PM
70-4
I backed them at 9-2 on, bit worried about losing my money now!!
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 7:58 PM
Botha out for a duck, Ireland in huge trouble at 70/4. Awful, awful decision. Bat was nowhere near it. Probably cost Ireland the game.
Have to ask how Sami could have appealed for that, he must have known he didnt hit it.
geysir
17/03/2007, 8:21 PM
The jinx of the traditional Patricks day weather to the rescue for once in our lives?
what? is it raining? If its rained out then it will be declared a draw!
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 8:23 PM
Yep, rain stops play.
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:24 PM
Bad light and rain stopped play. The quorum of 20 overs has been completed, so if play doesn't resume today Ireland will win under the Duckworth Lewis method. Methinks the powers that be will are frantically revising downward their criteria of what constitutes playable conditions...
Schumi
17/03/2007, 8:25 PM
what? is it raining? If its rained out then it will be declared a draw!I think they have spare days put aside to finish games interrupted by rain.
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 8:28 PM
I think they have spare days put aside to finish games interrupted by rain.
To clear this up after 20 overs the rain day can't be used. The match finishes tonight.
At present we are well ahead. We'll soon be losing overs too so am feeling nervously confident
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:28 PM
There's a reserve day, but it's only used if fewer than 20 overs of the second innings are completed. If there's no more play, Ireland win.
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 8:29 PM
We'll soon be losing overs too
What does that mean? We only play 40 overs and add 25% to our score because we should have played 25% more overs?
Edit - seems it doesn't matter if Sheridan's correct?
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:31 PM
It means the target is revised downward according to a formula based on run-rate and time available. Won't come into play unless there's a long rain delay and play resumes.
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 8:33 PM
What does that mean? We only play 40 overs and add 25% to our score because we should have played 25% more overs?
Edit - seems it doesn't matter if Sheridan's correct?
No there is a horribly complex method of calculating based on wickets remaining etc.
Even then it should get easier to win the more time is lost.
Methinks the powers that be will are frantically revising downward their criteria of what constitutes playable conditions...Umpires gave the reason for coming off as bad light even though its raining
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 8:35 PM
covers coming off?
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:39 PM
Bad news if true. Conditions will suit bowling if play resumes. Could play into Pakistan's hands if we're back on anytime soon.
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:41 PM
From Cricinfo:
4.35pm It's has cleared a little, but still not very bright ... the covers remain in place and nobody is looking inclined to emerge from the higher ground. The BBC are reporting that the game will resume tomorrow. With respect to Auntie, we can confirm that the game will not be concluded tomorrow. It's either tonight or we have an Irish win.
Poor Student
17/03/2007, 8:42 PM
How many more overs is Sami allowed to bowl (if it restarts)?
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 8:44 PM
1.3..
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 8:46 PM
1.3, although if the 50 overs are reduced, the bowlers' allocation is normally cut too.
covers coming off, with a revised target of 128 for the Irish.
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 8:48 PM
128 off 47 overs needed
tricky_colour
17/03/2007, 9:00 PM
128 off 47 overs needed
??? 47 overs ???
Whats going on now I am so confused, are they restarting?
Will Hill have Ireland as 7-1 on to win the match (I backed than at 9-2) so it
is looking good I wil win some money.
They are actually 8-1 on now, it looks like they have restarted play
says Total for 4 wickets 84 (29.0 ovs).
So it is a normal match now?
Edit - I understand it now, it is reduced to 47 overs and also a reduced target of 128
Ireland 16-1 on now :)
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 9:02 PM
You can follow the match ball by ball here (http://www.cricketeurope4.net/LIVE/1/commentary.shtml). Commentary is uninspiring to say the best but it does the job, I suppose.
Seems that because of the delay, there isn't time to play 50 overs, so we're cutting it to 47 overs. So we need fewer runs to win.
Sheridan
17/03/2007, 9:04 PM
Cricinfo's ball-by-ball is better.
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/current/match/247465.html
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 9:05 PM
Dont understand why RTE arent showing this.
For those not up to speed on some ofthis. We need to score at about 2 an over for the rest of the match (however long that is). A wicket is the equivalent of losing about 6 runs.
Poor Student
17/03/2007, 9:05 PM
Further wickets lost will affect us how exactly? Will they only come into play if the game is ended prematurely? I didn't quite get what the commentary said two further wickets would do.
Poor Student
17/03/2007, 9:06 PM
Dont understand why RTE arent showing this.
How could they? There's only two channels, it's a minority sport and very demanding on air time.
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 9:08 PM
I'll try to explain quickly. There is something called the Duckowrth Lewis method whcih tires to work out how many runs you would score if the innings finished. The 2 key factors are the numbers of overs left and the number of wickets. The idea is you would score at a higher rate the more wickets you have left.
Asd I say the net impact is that we will lose about 6 runs from our expected final score for every wicket we lose.
pineapple stu
17/03/2007, 9:09 PM
So is 128 the target or not?
Poor Student
17/03/2007, 9:09 PM
I'll try to explain quickly. There is something called the Duckowrth Lewis method whcih tires to work out how many runs you would score if the innings finished. The 2 key factors are the numbers of overs left and the number of wickets. The idea is you would score at a higher rate the more wickets you have left.
Asd I say the net impact is that we will lose about 6 runs from our expected final score for every wicket we lose.
Will it only come into play if there 47 overs aren't reached?
cavan_fan
17/03/2007, 9:09 PM
Yes, only if it finishes early
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