Clare League 2006/07

[shelbourne1904]

Am I missing something here but why cant the semifinals be played this Sunday coming the 13th???????Or at least the Avenue Newtown one???
Is there some important religious festival on??
Someone enlighten me.Newmarket are the only ones with a league game???

[Prem Rep!]

i agree wit the friday evening games being a joke...but in this instance i feel sorry for moher who have to replay a game cause the opposition couldn't field a team last week..but clare league didn't want to give a walkover to moher as it would be unfair on bridge celtic..so in future if you dont have a full team and your away to a team near top of the table ring and say you won't have a team..BUT THEN AGAIN I DID THAT AND WAS TOLD WHERE TO GO...WHERE'S THE JUSTICE

Also if a walkover was awarded Rineanna would have been deducted 3 points effectively relegating them I guess.

[Patricu]

Hi Folks,

I haven't yet figured how to post a new thread in the Clare League forum so excuse me sticking this in as a post to this threas.

I'm new to foot.ie forum and was drawn here when I saw the Clare League thread. I played for Kilrush Rangers from 1977 (aged 15 years and 9 months on debut versus St. Micheal's a match I scored in) to 1989, before work took me elsewhere. Best memory was of a Haughey Cup final versus Bridge Celtic (I was left-back for Kilrush), which although we lost, we still partied hard after!

I am on the Forum to keep up with Clare League football (highly under rated but mostly from lack of good playing surfaces) but also because I know Kilrush Rangers (then Leadmore Rangers) was founded in 1977 and so should have its 30th Anniversary this year. I would love to hear of any events on for that. Does anyone have any contact details for current officials? I'd be very surprised if Robert Clancy is not still involved - I'm sure his son Trevor is in the team by now (feeling old now) ;-) Others of my era where the Roche brothers, John (who also played for Avenue in FAI Junior Final) and Seamus, Martin O'Brien (man of match in above final), Liam Griffin, Pat Deegan etc.

Any info would be appreciated, particularly if there is anywhere else online where I could get info.

Thanks for all the latest news - much of the controversy looks just like it did in the 80's!

Pat

[Murphman]

Also if a walkover was awarded Rineanna would have been deducted 3 points effectively relegating them I guess.

I think the way its going, if Rineanna lose to Moher 2moro night, thay will surely be relegated as its their last game of the season... Mountshannon, Bridge Utd and Newmarket all have games in hand and its a battle between these three for the relegation playoff.. What makes it better is that they all play eachother...

[Murphman]

how come no other games are being played this week or next..after friday rineanna and lifford will be finished all games..so it cant be to play all last games on final weekend..

Yo Hack,
Obviously the way the fixtures have been planned (or unplanned) there is no way that everyone can finish on the same day ....
Ideally, as we've mentioned on this forum before it would be nice to get a full fixture list at start of season allowing for cup/shield/FAI weekends and any games postponed for weather should just move to end of list.. it'll also allow for clubs to book free weekends between eachother (For dinner dances etc), well in advance...

I think another thing that should be brought in is the referee should ring in score at end of each game (He is surely getting paid enough)- that way there cant be any incidents of wrong scores from home teams which unbelievably has happened and the league could use goal differences etc...

With the referee keeping the score, he should also have goalscorers name included.. that would save us doing it on this forum and make a much more interesting league for all divisions with goalscorer awards etc.... its not that hard as we've proved on this site and the clare league site..

Oh to dream of a league so organised!!

[Bossman]

My club will be proposing at the AGM that a master fixture list be drawn up before the start of next season.:)

[sore_toe]

That doesnt sound like a bad idea

[old git]

My club will be proposing at the AGM that a master fixture list be drawn up before the start of next season.:)

wonder will league accept it .. i think the limerick league already have this in place..:ball:

[CousinSylDolan]

wonder will league accept it .. i think the limerick league already have this in place..:ball:


Limerick Lg done it but it did not work as far as I could see.

Problem is that teams have a good run in the Fai of Mjc and do not have lg games for weeks and fall way behind the schedule.

Did anyone see the interview in the Clare People with the Burren manager. He wants to see linesman at all premier games next season.
What hat does he intend to pull these linesmen out of???

[Bossman]

A master fixture list would be a lot better than the current system. We would look for a three man fixture committee to draw up fixtures and make the necessary changes throughout the season. Everyone would know where they stand at the start of the season and most likely know who they are playing in the last game of the season. Every league has to accommodate teams that have good cup runs. There is enough weeks in a season for this to be a success. It will eliminate the situation where some clubs can't play matches on Sunday's. At the moment certain clubs are lucky;) with the fixtures but if the fixtures were there before the season started then everyone would know that this was just a coincidence:D.

[Sweetchips]

In his defence I would say for certain the fixture secretary already works with a master schedule the problem with the master schedule is it gets thrown all over the place when you get cancelletions..I know for any team i have been involved with the season starts with home to one team away to another etc....its only when games are called off the problems begin....perhaps Summer football is the answer, less cancellations - more structure to the fixture list.

Is there support for summer football in Clare???

[CousinSylDolan]

Kildysart beat Burren handy last night.... Surprise Surprise:eek: :eek:
Both are now promoted to the Premier and well done to them.

Bunratty wait to see who finishes 8th in the premier and will playoff with them to see who plays premier next year.

Is this the 3rd year of promotion/relegation playoff's. Last year Mntshn beat Corofin and the year before Rovers beat Olympic AFAIK.

[spoongebob]

Kildysart beat Burren handy last night.... Surprise Surprise:eek: :eek:
Both are now promoted to the Premier and well done to them.

Bunratty wait to see who finishes 8th in the premier and will playoff with them to see who plays premier next year.

Is this the 3rd year of promotion/relegation playoff's. Last year Mntshn beat Corofin and the year before Rovers beat Olympic AFAIK.



Yes this is the 3rd year of promotion/relegation playoff's

[MikeBassett]

Kildysart beat Burren handy last night.... Surprise Surprise:eek: :eek:
Both are now promoted to the Premier and well done to them.

what a disgrace kildysart in the premier league...lets hope they go straight back down

[CousinSylDolan]

whats the chances of the burren givivg kildysart a walkover if they win against rock...that would be totally unfair on bunratty..

Looks like you were more or less spot on!!!!!

Was in our hands though and we slipped up. Looking forward to the playoff now. Should be interesting as it will be against an old foe it looks like...

[nutmeg]

any one no wen the dates fpr the playoffs are?? and how do they decide who gets home advantage?? or is a nuteral venue???

[Offside]

Neutral venue usually... don't think dates have been decided yet.

[3rd booking]

what a disgrace kildysart in the premier league...lets hope they go straight back down

why is this a disgrace is it because they won more games than ye r because you think west clare teams like moher cant play ball:o

[shelbourne1904]

"there cant be any incidents of wrong scores from home teams which unbelievably has happened and the league could use goal differences etc..."

Wrong.You cant use goal difference when there are possibilities of walk overs

[shelbourne1904]

This is a waste of time because of the the Cups mentioned previously and cancellations.This was promised and produced prevviously but could not be adhered to.

[shelbourne1904]

"Kildysart beat Burren handy last night.... Surprise Surprise
Both are now promoted to the Premier and well done to them"

Great to see 2 great pitches added to the premier!!!!!

[old git]

what a disgrace kildysart in the premier league...lets hope they go straight back down


why is it a disgrace if they got enough points for promotion they deserve to go up... :confused:

[Funky Plunket]

what is vidic on about its a disgrace that kilydysart are in the premier whats he's problem if you win enough games you deserve to be there.its not who you are that should mean you get to play in the top div. its the team that gose out and wins there games.who dose he think deserves to be promited and tell us why?

[the 12 th man]

what a disgrace kildysart in the premier league...lets hope they go straight back down


vidic-class,the above post is trolling,if you have a problem with kildysart articulate it.You're going to end up with a ban if you keep it up.

Btw,the League Table never lies.

[guvnor]

ya could be anyone from 4 rineanna,bridge utd ,mounthshannon or newmarket but i'd say newmarket will be safe..would newmarket do mountshannon any favour to see old foes bridge utd or rineanna go..

Newmarket are finishing strongly and only need 1 win.If they get it on sunday i dont think they will worry about the rest. no disrespect to Burren or Kildysert but the prospect of premier lge football next season travelling to mountshannon, o briens bridge, moher, kildysert, burren does not appeal..but fair play to these clubs they deserve there chance and are there on merit.

[Sweetchips]

Correct me if I am wrong, but is that not 2 promotions in a row for Kidysert? Someone must have sorted them out.
Are they still playing in Cahercon is it? The old school?

Congratulations to them.

[shelbourne1904]

Newmarket are finishing strongly and only need 1 win.If they get it on sunday i dont think they will worry about the rest. no disrespect to Burren or Kildysert but the prospect of premier lge football next season travelling to mountshannon, o briens bridge, moher, kildysert, burren does not appeal..but fair play to these clubs they deserve there chance and are there on merit.

The whole league will have to be switched to Friday now!!!!!

[CousinSylDolan]

Correct me if I am wrong, but is that not 2 promotions in a row for Kidysert? Someone must have sorted them out.
Are they still playing in Cahercon is it? The old school?

Congratulations to them.

It is 2 promotion's in 2 years for Kildysart and they do still play in Cahercon.

[Prem Rep!]

Were both Burren and Kildysert promoted from 2nd last year??

[Prem Rep!]

ya could be anyone from 4 rineanna,bridge utd ,mounthshannon or newmarket but i'd say newmarket will be safe..would newmarket do mountshannon any favour to see old foes bridge utd or rineanna go..

No favours done on Sunday I'd imagine. A mountshannon win would drag Newmarket right back into it. Big game tonight for Rovers.

[MikeBassett]

Michael O'Gorman Youth Cup Final Result

Turnpike Rovers 2 - 3 Lifford
After Extra-time.

[CousinSylDolan]

Were both Burren and Kildysert promoted from 2nd last year??


Kildysart and Turnpike were promoted to the 1st last year...

[CousinSylDolan]

Lynch Hotels Clare & District Soccer League Fixtures
Friday 11/05/07
Michael O’Gorman Youth Cup Final
Turnpike Rovers 2 Lifford 3 (aet)

Maloney Hardware Shannon Premier Division League
Moher Celtic A 2 Rinnanna Rovers 1


Sunday 13/05/07
Maloney Hardware Shannon Premier Division League
Mountshannon Celtic 2 Newmarket Celtic A 3

SEL Print Second Division League Newmarket Celtic B 5 Tulla United 4

[CousinSylDolan]

Lynch Hotels Clare & District Soccer League Fixtures
Saturday 19/05/07
F.A.I. Youths Cup Clare Area Final
County Grounds: Newtown V Newmarket Celtic
Referee: D.Hehir 11.00
Assistant Referees: F.Coote, A.Murphy

Note: In event of a draw 10 mins extra time & penaltys if necessary.

Sunday 20/05/07
Maloney Hardware Shannon Premier Division League
Lees Road Pitch 4: Avenue United A V Shannon Olympic A.Murphy 11.00

Ennis Road: Newmarket Celtic A V Mountshannon Celtic D.McCarthy 11.00


Sixmilebridge: Bridge United A V Bridge Celtic A
M.O`Brien 11.00

Liscannor: Moher Celtic A V Newtown A
N.Bennett 11.00

First Division Shield Final
County Grounds: Bunratty V Burren United
Referee: F.Coote 2.00
Assistant Referees: J.Stanford, D.Brosnan

Note: In event of a draw 10 mins e/w extra time and penaltys if necessary .

Friday 25/05/07
Clare Cup Simi- Final
County Grounds: Newtown A V Moher Celtic A
Referee: A.Murphy 7.00
Assistant Referees: J.Stanford, F.Coote

Note: In event of a draw 10 mins e/w extra time and penaltys if necessary .

[shelbourne1904]

Any one got the latest table for the Premier??

[CousinSylDolan]

Any one got the latest table for the Premier??

http://www.a2zsoccer.com/index.cfm/loc/3/fuseaction/showsummary/hostorg_id/809278/season_id/809369/divn_id/809373/league_id/809367/legtyp_id/809281/agediv_id/809371

1 BRIDGE CELTIC 17 10 5 2 36 19 17 35
2 MOHER CELTIC 17 9 5 3 30 18 12 32
3 NEWTOWN FC 17 8 6 3 31 17 14 30
4 AVENUE UNITED 17 8 2 7 28 24 4 26
5 LIFFORD AFC 18 6 6 6 22 23 -1 24
6 NEWMARKET CELTIC 16 6 4 6 22 23 -1 22
7 RINEANNA ROVERS 18 5 3 10 21 28 -7 18
8 BRIDGE UNITED 16 4 6 6 17 27 -10 18
9 MOUNTSHANNON CELTIC 17 4 4 9 17 30 -13 16
10 SHANNON OLYMPIC A 17 1 7 9 16 31 -15 10

[shelbourne1904]

Thanks Cous,
Down to the wire again this year!!!

[MikeBassett]

it looks like rineanna are doomed for at least a playoff with bunratty in a couple of weeks time at the very least and i reckon it'l be mountshannon to join them in the bottom 3

[devilfish]

Newtown V Lifford in Munster Area Youths final is on in Doora this evening and not Bunratty as per Clare FM earlier.

[smellyfeet]

Just heard that 1 of Shannon Olympics Star players has just received an 8 Month Ban from the Clare League for receiving A red card after their 2 all draw against Mohar.The red card was shown to the player after the game for calling the Ref a cheating f***er..

Is this 8 Month Ban a bit harsh???
OR,
Is this 8 Month Ban Justified???

Any Comments??

Just heard that this ban was appealed last evening but to no joy:(
The 8 month banwill stand. Sad really.

[old git]

Just heard that this ban was appealed last evening but to no joy:(
The 8 month banwill stand. Sad really.


a disgrace .... i know clare league are trying to look after referees

but cannot justify 8 months ban for verbal abuse of a referee ..:ball:

[First]

a disgrace .... i know clare league are trying to look after referees

but cannot justify 8 months ban for verbal abuse of a referee ..:ball:

Can anyone explain how the Clare League have come up with the 8 months suspension for this offense. What is the criteria they use. This looks to me as a figure that has been pulled out of thin air and the player in question has benn made an example of. Why , when the Clare league and the referees have a problem with the level of abuse been thrown at them not come up with a transparent method of punishment that is outlined to the clubs at the beginning of the season. This decision is an over reaction to what is a problem in the Clare league and one that seems to be getting worse. It is understandable that the refs do not want to be abused and from what I have seen this season if the hardline approach they have taken here is their answer to the problem then there will be alot of clubs struggling to field teams with the amount of suspensions. IMO there should be a whole reveiw of the way the league is run , from fixtures to referring and the whole approach by the clubs. Remember the palyers that are out on the pitch are representatives of the club and they have to take some level of responsiblity in the things that are going on . There seems to be a them against us attitude between the clubs and the people who are running the league.

[old git]

Can anyone explain how the Clare League have come up with the 8 months suspension for this offense. What is the criteria they use. This looks to me as a figure that has been pulled out of thin air and the player in question has benn made an example of. Why , when the Clare league and the referees have a problem with the level of abuse been thrown at them not come up with a transparent method of punishment that is outlined to the clubs at the beginning of the season. This decision is an over reaction to what is a problem in the Clare league and one that seems to be getting worse. It is understandable that the refs do not want to be abused and from what I have seen this season if the hardline approach they have taken here is their answer to the problem then there will be alot of clubs struggling to field teams with the amount of suspensions. IMO there should be a whole reveiw of the way the league is run , from fixtures to referring and the whole approach by the clubs. Remember the palyers that are out on the pitch are representatives of the club and they have to take some level of responsiblity in the things that are going on . There seems to be a them against us attitude between the clubs and the people who are running the league.

would agree with above ,, but also must add that usually every appeall to clare league fails .. also a lot of current referee's are very poor at their jobs.. which causes a lot of frustration on the pitch with players (still not an excuse to abuse referee) t and i have never heard of any player/club in clare appealing against a referee's
decision / report and winning their case .. how many players have been sent off for bad language this year what i mean by bad langauge is after a bad tackle / foul / offside decision player comments for f**k sake ref / that was never f**king offside... does anybody else class this as red card material... i certainly don't..:ball:

[MikeBassett]

Munster Youths Area Final

Lifford 3-1 Newtown

Newtown scored after five mins but as the game went on they got worse and worse...Lifford could have really hammered them in this one

[Interested]

would agree with above ,, but also must add that usually every appeall to clare league fails .. also a lot of current referee's are very poor at their jobs.. which causes a lot of frustration on the pitch with players (still not an excuse to abuse referee) t and i have never heard of any player/club in clare appealing against a referee's
decision / report and winning their case .. how many players have been sent off for bad language this year what i mean by bad langauge is after a bad tackle / foul / offside decision player comments for f**k sake ref / that was never f**king offside... does anybody else class this as red card material... i certainly don't..:ball:

In the Laws of the Game Rule Book, Foul and Abusive Languadge is punished by a Red Card. Referees don't make up the rules, they just implement them.
It is not a player saying for f**k safe ref / that was never f**king offside or similar, it is the way he/she says it. To be honest, most referees will only give a yellow card for dissent. Players are not stupid, they know which referees will tolerate this and those that won't.
Swearing is part and parcel of everyday life and naturally it will be brought onto the field.
Calling the Referee a fu**king cheat, is not normal practise and has no place on the field in my opinion.

[Interested]

while referree's should not have to take verbal abuse..the are the only people in the league who get paid..it can get very frustrating for players when emotions are high and the ref makes a mistake(which everybody does)..how come the refs cant get punished for mistakes..we have played 17 games in league so far this year and not once have we seen a referree's accessor at a game..if you think about it a ref will probably get 2 games each sunday 1 in premier and 1 in another division..they get 44 euro for premier games and 38 for any other division thats 82 euro for 3 hours work thats about 27 euro an hour tax free..and if the make a mistake or say something to a player nothing can be done..but if a players emotions are running high and says stuff he he gets 8 month ban..where is the sense in that...

Great calculating hacker. If we break it down properly. A ref has a game in Shannon at 11.00, to be at the venue in time to do a pre match check means he leaves home at 10.00.
His 2nd game is in Newmarket at 2.30, with the game finishing at 4.15, (taking into account half time). By the time he gets home it is 5 O'Clock with his whole Sunday taken up.
By my calculation 10 in the morning untill 5.00 is 7 hours which comes in at 11.71 an hour (just above minimum wage).
I dont think there are too many players who would do a days work for €82.00.
If there are I am sure there employers would be willing to negoitiate.

[Side Cutter]

In the Laws of the Game Rule Book, Foul and Abusive Languadge is punished by a Red Card. Referees don't make up the rules, they just implement them.
It is not a player saying for f**k safe ref / that was never f**king offside or similar, it is the way he/she says it. To be honest, most referees will only give a yellow card for dissent. Players are not stupid, they know which referees will tolerate this and those that won't.
Swearing is part and parcel of everyday life and naturally it will be brought onto the field.
Calling the Referee a fu**king cheat, is not normal practise and has no place on the field in my opinion.

-----------MOD EDIT--- IF you post anything like that again you'll get a ban from here.Consider this a warning.--------------------


Are you are you a ref by any chance Interested-

[old git]

In the Laws of the Game Rule Book, Foul and Abusive Languadge is punished by a Red Card. Referees don't make up the rules, they just implement them.
It is not a player saying for f**k safe ref / that was never f**king offside or similar, it is the way he/she says it. To be honest, most referees will only give a yellow card for dissent. Players are not stupid, they know which referees will tolerate this and those that won't.
Swearing is part and parcel of everyday life and naturally it will be brought onto the field.
Calling the Referee a fu**king cheat, is not normal practise and has no place on the field in my opinion.

.. in this case a bit of common sense might have been used olympic 2-1 up and referee supposedly plays 8 mins injury and then moher equalize & ref blows final whistle... it would be very hard for players / manager to contain emotions ... yes a sending off offence and suspension but 8 month ban is a disgrace .. :ball:

[leftie]

Great calculating hacker. If we break it down properly. A ref has a game in Shannon at 11.00, to be at the venue in time to do a pre match check means he leaves home at 10.00.
His 2nd game is in Newmarket at 2.30, with the game finishing at 4.15, (taking into account half time). By the time he gets home it is 5 O'Clock with his whole Sunday taken up.
By my calculation 10 in the morning untill 5.00 is 7 hours which comes in at 11.71 an hour (just above minimum wage).
I dont think there are too many players who would do a days work for €82.00.
If there are I am sure there employers would be willing to negoitiate.

You have a point but your logic is flawed. Can you tell me that in your regular employment that you bill from the moment you leave the house to the moment you get home? I doubt it.

That said, you should get paid well for crappy work, and perhaps they sould get paid better. However no matter how badly paid or under appreciated they are, it does not give them the excuse to do a crappy job.

[the 12 th man]

By all means comment on a Refs performance but don't accuse a Ref of being a cheat on foot.ie,Christ knows its a hard job and there is a shortage of people to do it.

Don't say you weren't warned.