Hull City owners to take majority stake in Dundalk?

[Nesta99]

Ok some clarity is emerging. 1903 SC is not set up costitutionally to fill the role of the new trust without having an EGM to build on what is an aspirational statement in their constitution to become a trust in due course. There isnt time for this process. I would like to know for sure if the SC were asked not to raise funds by JT and what their response to himi was, if they asked why, and whether they were or are willing to suspend their efforts until the season has concluded. This is is their role currently imo, to aks such questions and to look to potentially keeping the day to day cost of things covered in he short term rather than proposing a seperate but identical funding model as the trust. A joint statement from the two on what they are doing together and seperately would be very welcome. In the mean time I accept what is being said by the trust and that is the group that i will pay in to on subscription and will continue to support SC fundraising as it crops up. I would like to have seen the virtual ticket for the next home game be a SC initiative rather than directly by the club but will also purchase one regardless (if they are assessing viability going forward that potential ticket sale will be an important part so all Dundalk fans should really be either buy match night or virtual tickets).

I still think it was ridiculous that that this messiness happened with efforts to save the club, I havent changed my opinions on how it came about but I am satisfied on what is the the correct way forward to support all this effort by the respective fans involved! I hope that 1903 SC will show a mature common sense approach and clear the path for the Trust to look forward and the SC to be on the ball now and continue to represent supporters with the club - maybe down the line look at their own subscription based membership that could also have a direct say on the running of the football club, a trust alternative even, when crises have passed, everything is rosy and we are hogging league titles again....

*Oh hang on, the club are to announce a sub scheme - United People of Judea front! This will be fun if they say its the difference between folding the club or not. Out of interest can an owner fold a club even if there are offers to buy and bail out, like some clause in participation rules or legally not able to kill jobs, leave creditors in trouble etc. by refusing on stubborness or malice to sell to a fair offer?

[sbgawa]

I wont judge what this new 500 club that has been announced by the DFC is until details emerge but if it doesnt offer a shareholding then its just the club Lotto with money raised spent as the owners like.
The idea mooted on the Press box podcast that the Trust (the one proposed by the lads on the podcast) wont give the club money if its being wasted is nonsense really, if the owner says he needs the money for wages it will be paid over becasue thats what the Trust membership would insist happened rather than see the club go under.
The owners whomever they are are buying the club for the debts (if they even pay them as opposed to going into Scarp) about 1.2 or 1.5M.
The Lad on the Podcast was talking about rasing 500k or 1 million per year for several years.

So the new owners buy the club for around 1.5m (or possibly nothing) and the Trust invests 500k a year and get what exactly??
I know people might say they are helping the club but they arent really they are helping the owners who are getting the club on the cheap.

The trust should insist on a significant shareholding or state publically that the money raised will be used in a few years time to buy the club or a stake in the club to give them some ability to influence things.

Im not saying the trust is a bad idea but if the solution to DFC problem is to pretty much give the club away to (who knows) andf then give them 500k a year then its a great solution for the guys getting the club.
Lets see if a shareholding is proposed or a route to one as money is invested by the supporters

[Nesta99]

From what Im getting is that the new trust are raising money to either buy a stake in the club or buy the club if an owner is bailing out and folding the existing club. It will either happen quickly with barely time to raise substantial amounts or over time accumulated finance could be enough to turn he head of an owner and allow a stake in the club + an annual amount then could be for the club. It has been mooted that future annual subs are ringfenced for stadium infrastructure.

A club run trust is the cat among the pigeons, it would be hard not to be conflicted by the clubs saying this happens or its gone so witholding contributing to the sustainability of the club. I feel that it wont fly without a stake in ownership. What will be offered imo will be a rep on the board. If I were to consider this club thing then access to accounts, knowing who and what are other owners putting in etc which I reckon wont be easily attained. If this doesnt fly then it wil be said that it is THE reason for deciding the club is not viable. Maybe this is where/why the SC were being told to not 'fundraise', the trust are totally detached from the club so couldnt be asked and if they were would have been told where to go even just simply as their purpose is seperate from the club right now.

[2 Year Contract]

On todays episode of the Dundalk FC circus:

https://x.com/mcdonnelldan/status/1847386650902745333?s=46


Crazy scenes in Dundalk after final whistle. Ruaidhri Higgins interviews interrupted by noise of a row in main stands between former owners/staff - the Connolly brothers - and the new owner John Temple. Respective parties had to be dragged away and some other people got involved

[joey B]

In Dan McDonnell’s report it says Temple got punched by a supporter after another altercation while leaving the stand,incredible really and doesn’t bode well for the immediate future….

[ToberonaTornado]

Really disappointing reading this and no excuse for assault no matter what the circumstances-.still trying to find out what happened but that **** at op last night just heaped trouble on trouble Ffs. Grow the **** up

[Nesta99]

Ignoring all the little tales, JT prevented the club from being wound up, we have no idea what he has planned yet so if a random fan was venting at the current state of things then he was hitting the wrong person. Now if that person is an associate of maybe previous people invloved then there could be some context and likely plenty of drink on board. The civilised Stand eh....

The sort of broad strokes of painting a picture that happens with issues at Dundalk FC are in full flow after last night e.g. JT is from the Avenue Road, the chosen pub of former people making decisions at the club is the Avenue Inn on the Avenue Rd funnily enough. May have never have crossed paths, the Avenue Rd is a couple of miles in length and has thousnds of people living in the 100s of housing developments on one of the main arterial roads in Dundalk. But of course what happened last night and even JTs involvement at all is due to past beef that must have happened in the Avenue Inn....

[Buckett]

Avenue Road is a ridiculous name for a street

[joey B]

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Is this just local gossip or is there a suggestion that funds have been stolen or misused by previous owners? It’s hard to keep up with events there at the moment…..

[Nesta99]

Definitely misused! But whether that was daft or sinister well it would be reckless for anybody to suggest funds were stolen without any way to back up claims. What is known is that there was a dispute between BA and who he bought the club from on legacy debt, BA let the former COO go and issues between the parties were quite apparent. Beyond that its joining the dots and assumptions made.

Imo it was up to BA to make sure his due diligence was thorough, if info was witheld from him then we'll wait for legal recourse to happen. If there is no case to answer, no investigation then its wrong to say its any more than rumour. In the absence any legals then its likely to be just a blame game, deflection, egos easily bruised mixed with rumour in a fact vacuum. It is symptomatic of issues at the club in recent years where agendas and divsion have done damage, to what extent we dont know yet. Even the efforts of fans to intervene have somehow been divisive.

[Nesta99]

Avenue Road is a ridiculous name for a street

Its Limerick's fault, well Lord Limerick!

[Stevie mac]

It's called the Long Avenue colloquial known as the Avenue Road. That's not to be confused with "da avenya" which is St. Nicholas Ave which is also an independent republic in Da town

[CorribsideSteve]

Off season topic should be what's the worst street name in the town of the club you support, in a #greatestleagueintheworld kind of way. I hope Dundalk are still around for that. It's nearly 10 years since they won their 1st title for nearly 20 years at that time. It's been some decade though, in fairness, when ye get to look back on it in time to come. The highest of highs and now unfortunately the opposite. Should there be vital signs present over the winter, I hope that trips to Tralee, Cobh, and Ballyboffey away in the lashing rain will cure ye of any notions of staying too long in the 1st Division.

[Nesta99]

Its already off season for Dundalk. Dead rubber will help Rovers. I do hope that there will be a good Dundalk crowd in United Park last day though. Take our medicine and face the slagging.

[patsdad]

Its already off season for Dundalk. Dead rubber will help Rovers. I do hope that there will be a good Dundalk crowd in United Park last day though. Take our medicine and face the slagging.

Actually it’s an opportunity for the team to rise to the occasion of the last Premier Division game in Oriel for some time to come and give the supporters a performance to remember. Denying Rovers the five in a row into the bargain.

[sbgawa]

nah with all the fuss Pats kicked up over O Donnels move to Dundalk i think DFC should just lie down and let Rovers work on our goal difference

[Eminence Grise]

Off season topic should be what's the worst street name in the town of the club you support, in a #greatestleagueintheworld kind of way.

Good one! In Dublin, Misery Hill, beside the Bord Gais theatre. Should be the place of pilgrimage for all fans whose club underperformed.

And the place where the FAI should base their fines office: Pyro Villas in D8.

[Nesta99]

Actually it’s an opportunity for the team to rise to the occasion of the last Premier Division game in Oriel for some time to come and give the supporters a performance to remember. Denying Rovers the five in a row into the bargain.

Im not sure Id that pleased with a performanc to remember, a winning kind, or we'd be wondering where that was all season. Could probably sell the stand multiple times over to catch any action there!

[Nesta99]

Good one! In Dublin, Misery Hill, beside the Bord Gais theatre. Should be the place of pilgrimage for all fans whose club underperformed.

And the place where the FAI should base their fines office: Pyro Villas in D8.

To get tto Oriel from the town side you have to ascend Gallows Hill.

[redobit]

Off season topic should be what's the worst street name in the town of the club you support, in a #greatestleagueintheworld kind of way.

Aren't Shamrock named after a street.

[placid casual]

I see Kilduff has handed in his notice with Athlone women's team .
Would he be a good choice for the dundalk job in division 1?

[Shearer]

I see Kilduff has handed in his notice with Athlone women's team .
Would he be a good choice for the dundalk job in division 1?
A natural fit for sure, he would be crazy to do it though.

[Another Bohemia]

I see Kilduff has handed in his notice with Athlone women's team .
Would he be a good choice for the dundalk job in division 1?

Will Dundalk even have a license to field a team next year?

[Nesta99]

At this moment of time nobody knows, but we are launching a new jersey for 2025 in the coming weeks??????????

[TonyD]

nah with all the fuss Pats kicked up over O Donnels move to Dundalk i think DFC should just lie down and let Rovers work on our goal difference

Not really seeing the connection there.

[Another Bohemia]

At this moment of time nobody knows, but we are launching a new jersey for 2025 in the coming weeks??????????

Speaking as a Bohs fan this is clearly the correct priority :D

[dundalkfc10]

It's called the Long Avenue colloquial known as the Avenue Road. That's not to be confused with "da avenya" which is St. Nicholas Ave which is also an independent republic in Da town

Don't forget Sinn Fein Alley off Park Street in Dundalk

[Stevie mac]

That was known as "The Gut" but not because of SF although their party offices were there in the 90s if I remember correctly.

Its also not far away from Lucy Soraghans corner if you want to go back to the 1900's

[Nesta99]

Don't forget Sinn Fein Alley off Park Street in Dundalk

Williamsons Place? What was the Battle of the Boardroom you've metioned elsewhere?

[cobhlad]

Cobh the latest club to depart from a members owned model. Just Bohs, Harps and Sligo left. The only real chance of competing with the way things are going, exciting times ahead.

https://cobhramblers.ie/fc32-partners-for-the-next-chapter-in-cobh-ramblers-fc-history/

[Jd2793]

nothing as exciting as being part of a multi club model. the beautiful game!

[Nesta99]

We would have all looked down our noses at Home Farm Everton stuff years back. But its only a matter of time before there are more multi-club models than others in small leagues. Without putting a chief club badge on things, Drogs, Waterford, Shels temporarily, Dundalk almost, Cork, oters? Rovers have a major shareholder that also has a major stake in another club, does that count? As long as clubs are still autonomous, not being made take and play players, must use certain tactics etc its probably ok and better a group looking to access a potential talent pool than trying to access European participation money on the cheap. I wouldnt say no to Red Bull Dundalk FC!!

[EatYerGreens]

Cobh the latest club to depart from a members owned model. Just Bohs, Harps and Sligo left. The only real chance of competing with the way things are going, exciting times ahead.

https://cobhramblers.ie/fc32-partners-for-the-next-chapter-in-cobh-ramblers-fc-history/

I sense that this will do and achieve very little, and then ultimately fizzle out.

[ForzaForth]

In addition to Bohs, Harps and Sligo, Wexford are still nominally a members owned club. However, based on published comments from our CEO, I'd say we're definitely "in play."

[joey B]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41501186.html

John Temple confirming the "SCARP examinership route is inevitable."for Dundalk.....

Also bans issued for former owner Andy Connolly and his brother, ex-Chief Operating Officer Martin Connolly.

[dundalkfc10]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41501186.html

John Temple confirming the "SCARP examinership route is inevitable."for Dundalk.....

Also bans issued for former owner Andy Connolly and his brother, ex-Chief Operating Officer Martin Connolly.

Good them 2 Connollys should never be allowed back into Oriel, them and the scumbags they hang about with in the Avenue Inn

Andy Connolly and Statsporta ****ed away 3 million over 3 years and are going around town this months telling everyone it's all someone else's fault

I hope their family member who punched John Temple gets done by the Gardai, and with his previous convictions I'd say he may do time for it

[dundalkfc10]

https://open.spotify.com/show/1erDs8P7xwy5Lgtz99jk4O

A sensational interview with the new Dundalk owner

He will either be sued to pieces or he has just told us all the stone wall truth and given his profession I'd imagine he's telling the truth

[joey B]

Some fairly shocking details in there from him,that the money parents paid to Dundalk for the academy was being used in other parts of the club is disgraceful also whoever agreed to pay Louie Annesley a bonus for playing for Gibraltar should be sent to the nearest mental hospital....

[Jack B]

Only about a third of the way through but commenting while it's still up (not sure it will remain that way) that it's an incredible listen. All daft football rivalry aside I can only imagine how bewildering a time it must be for fans of the club.

[dundalkfc10]

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Some fairly shocking details in there from him,that the money parents paid to Dundalk for the academy was being used in other parts of the club is disgraceful also whoever agreed to pay Louie Annesley a bonus for playing for Gibraltar should be sent to the nearest mental hospital....

Annesley missed more games through injury with us than he played, but he never missed a Gibraltar game while he was here


Only about a third of the way through but commenting while it's still up (not sure it will remain that way) that it's an incredible listen. All daft football rivalry aside I can only imagine how bewildering a time it must be for fans of the club.

Why wouldn't it remain up. I'm sure as a barrister Temple is telling the truth

[Jack B]

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Why wouldn't it remain up. I'm sure as a barrister Temple is telling the truth

Not suggesting he's not telling the truth, although certain people mentioned are already publicly claiming otherwise. You just rarely see things such as this stay up for too long in my experience.

[dundalkfc10]

One ex player who is upset as he assumed Ainscough would sell him and his investors the club but he went with Temple

That lad is a gob****e. Claiming things are not true in the interview but refusing to say what bits

[Longfordian]

Don't know if Temple mentioned this

https://x.com/donalgreene/status/1848802568689926216?s=19

[joey B]

Seems a terrible time for so much infighting,if I was an ordinary Dundalk fan I wouldn’t be rushing to spend my money on anything being presented at the minute…..

[Another Bohemia]

Why wouldn't it remain up. I'm sure as a barrister Temple is telling the truth

Ah yes, those in the profession of practicing law are notoriously paragons of truth and justice. They would never interpret anything and spin it for their own benefit. I'm not saying he's lying but someone's profession shouldn't be a qualifier of whether someone is or isn't lying.

[dundalkfc10]

Knowing both individuals I'd believe him over Donal Greene who is just upset he wasn't the saviour who took over after Ainscough left

Fridays trust meeting in the town hall should be interesting

[bohsmug]

There is an awful lot going on here. It's odd how publicly all of this is playing out.

[sbgawa]

Temple has put it out there and opened himself up to being sued.
I'd be inclined to believe him

[Burnsie]

"[Brian Ainscough] never did a single thing at the club that was bad"

yeah.... this guy ain't it

[sbgawa]

If the Connollys or anyone else want to dispute his version of events they have the option of suing him for defamation. He'd be a pretty stupid barrister if he was putting out publicly stuff that was factually wrong.
I guess we will see by their reactions, if its just bluster and noise then I'll draw my own conclusions. I'd imagine his moments on ainscough were coloured by what he found when he moved in himself. It'll sure be interesting to see how it plays out.