Troy Parrott F AZ Alkmaar b.2002

[Jd2793]

I agree - a forward not scoring goals has issues. Hogan is scoring goals.

its a team issue, not a parrott issue.

[CSAD]

I agree - a forward not scoring goals has issues. Hogan is scoring goals.

I would agree with that is Parrott was the only forward having issues in that Preston side…the issue is he isn’t.

[Snapshot]

its a team issue, not a parrott issue.
Millwall, Ipswich, Preston etc. don't deserve Parrott. And I know, he's only 20.

[Jd2793]

Millwall, Ipswich, Preston etc. don't deserve Parrott. And I know, he's only 20.

interesting you leave out mk dons lol. parrott should be fine with pne once the manager fixes the rest of the team himself and riis complement one another nicely.

[Snapshot]

interesting you leave out mk dons lol. parrott should be fine with pne once the manager fixes the rest of the team himself and riis complement one another nicely.
It's not that interesting. Parrott's relative L1 success was overshadowed by the prowess of Keane there and Hogan in the Championship. It's deja vu. Children of a lesser god. One of the forum's alumni did a magnificent job compiling my posts on the subject. It's back there somewhere. A magnum opus.

[Jd2793]

It's not that interesting. Parrott's relative L1 success was overshadowed by the prowess of Keane there and Hogan in the Championship. It's deja vu. Children of a lesser god. One of the forum's alumni did a magnificent job compiling my posts on the subject. It's back there somewhere. A magnum opus.

have you considered for one minute the age + profiles of these 3 players? comparing parrotts prowess to hogans is laughable. apples and oranges.

[Snapshot]

have you considered for one minute the age + profiles of these 3 players? comparing parrotts prowess to hogans is laughable. apples and oranges.
No. I've kept it relevant to the coming games and who's more likely to score. Apples and oranges don't play football and comparing players with similar roles is not laughable. It's just an opinion and I'm leaving it there lest I get into trouble.

[pineapple stu]

have you considered for one minute the age + profiles of these 3 players? comparing parrotts prowess to hogans is laughable. apples and oranges.
I wouldn't let Parrott off because of his age in fairness.

He may be a much better medium-term prospect than the others because he's still only 20, but the games are next week and medium-term prospects are irrelevant.

What does stand in Parrott's stead of course is a good cameo v Lithuania (Hogan did ok then too in fairness) and a lively June window (when Hogan was iffy at best, though I think there was a suggestion he was carrying an injury)

[Exgrad]

Hogan hasn't helped his cause by being ver mediocre (at best) anytime he's played for Ireland. 11 caps, loads of opportunities and chances and no goals. Having said that he does seem to be a streaky player so maybe timing is good here.

[elatedscum]

Hogan hasn't helped his cause by being ver mediocre (at best) anytime he's played for Ireland. 11 caps, loads of opportunities and chances and no goals. Having said that he does seem to be a streaky player so maybe timing is good here.

He did score against Scotland in fairness. Not his fault the FAI didn’t pay for goal line tech

[SkStu]

Hogan hasn't helped his cause by being ver mediocre (at best) anytime he's played for Ireland. 11 caps, loads of opportunities and chances and no goals. Having said that he does seem to be a streaky player so maybe timing is good here.

This is it. The other part of the argument is that Parrott has 4 goals in his last 12 appearances in green - and his all round contributions get better each window. Another aspect that has been glossed over, that is relevant, is that he has been playing really well for PNE and they seem to have really taken to him. He is also playing a different role (#9 - I believe at Spurs' request) than last year with MKD. People being a bit harsh all things considered.

[Diggs246]

He did score against Scotland in fairness. Not his fault the FAI didn’t pay for goal line tech

Was that over the line?

[Razors left peg]

Parrott currently looks miles off a standard where these guys are scoring. Miles. Current club form must go beyond tokenism. That a clearly struggling player should get preference over those who aren't seems basically unfair. Having said that, I'm jumping the gun before a squad or team is selected.

Have you watched a lot of Preston this season to say hes miles off the standard? His lack of goals recently has been concerning but any time I watched him play he was very good. Ive probably watch 4 or 5 games this season where the link up play between Parrott and Brady was super. I havent seen them in last couple of weeks though

[JR89]

In the last two games he hasn't impressed but started up top with Evans in one and both of them looked awkward together. Burnley are a possession team now and had 72% of the possession so Preston were chasing shadows most of the night.

He's not scoring goals but as others have said that's a Preston issue overall and has often played as the lone CF and been impressive. Especially for a lad whose jumped a division and played his best football as a wide forward in that division.

[elatedscum]

Was that over the line?

Definitely

[CSAD]

Preston now have a record of having the joint lowest number of goals score in Championship history after 10 games tied with Rotherham in 2004/2005 who finished bottom their year.

Is there anyone left who still seriously think this was a good move in the first place?

[nigel-harps1954]

Watched the first half of the game yesterday. Couldn't really bring myself to watch the second half. It was utterly dire. Kick and chase stuff from Preston, and any football they attempted to play kept breaking down with sloppy passing.

Genuinely felt sorry for Parrott though, he kept having to drop in to get the football to feet, got little in the way of support, and was feeding off scraps constantly.

Had a couple of half chances, and he created a few more half chances, but overall, he's in a very poor team with little prospects. Genuinely think it's down to how poorly they're set up though, they seem to be all over the place.

[elatedscum]

Watched the first half of the game yesterday. Couldn't really bring myself to watch the second half. It was utterly dire. Kick and chase stuff from Preston, and any football they attempted to play kept breaking down with sloppy passing.

Genuinely felt sorry for Parrott though, he kept having to drop in to get the football to feet, got little in the way of support, and was feeding off scraps constantly.

Had a couple of half chances, and he created a few more half chances, but overall, he's in a very poor team with little prospects. Genuinely think it's down to how poorly they're set up though, they seem to be all over the place.

Sounds like he's getting the perfect practice to play in a late era Martin O'Neill Ireland team

[pineapple stu]

Preston's goalscoring woes continue - another 0-0 draw, and after 11 games they've scored 3 and conceded 4.

Parrott on the bench and came on for the last 25; I presume that's the manager trying to shake things up as I don't think Parrott picked up an injury in the international window.

[sadloserkid]

Those Preston goal numbers are crazy. There can't be many cases of teams both scoring and conceding the least goals in their division almost a quarter of the way through their season.

[pineapple stu]

I remember UCD did it one year at the end of the season. 2002/03, when google tells me we scored 23 and conceded 25 in a 27-game season.

Even that was just below one goal a game though - nearly three times the rate Preston are seeing goals. It's incredible. And they've eight goals in two Cup games.

[seanfhear]

Those Preston goal numbers are crazy. There can't be many cases of teams both scoring and conceding the least goals in their division almost a quarter of the way through their season.
Exciting times.

[sadloserkid]

Exciting times.

Yeah I was curious enough to go snooping on their twitter feed after today's game and the sense of outraged boredom among a lot of their friends is almost comical.

[Demesne Lad]

"In 22 Championship games – across spells with Preston and Millwall – Parrott has yet to find the net even once and his run without a goal has hit 1460 minutes". (Deeepdale Digest, 2 Oct). Perhaps he will be a late bloomer https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/10-greatest-late-bloomers-in-football-history.

[Diggs246]

"In 22 Championship games – across spells with Preston and Millwall – Parrott has yet to find the net even once and his run without a goal has hit 1460 minutes". (Deeepdale Digest, 2 Oct). Perhaps he will be a late bloomer https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/10-greatest-late-bloomers-in-football-history.

Jesus is that right...zero goals?

[John83]

Yeah. He wasn't ready during his first loan, and his team are almost comically defensive at the moment - lowest goals scored or conceded in the division. It makes it hard to judge him on goals. It's probably not the best place to develop as a forward, but his hold-up and linking play and his pressing game will be developing at a rate of knots.

[seanfhear]

Yeah. He wasn't ready during his first loan, and his team are almost comically defensive at the moment - lowest goals scored or conceded in the division. It makes it hard to judge him on goals. It's probably not the best place to develop as a forward, but his hold-up and linking play and his pressing game will be developing at a rate of knots.
We could end up with another Centre-Half (wink )

[John83]

Don't even joke about that. I'm worried enough about losing Knight to full back.

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah I was curious enough to go snooping on their twitter feed after today's game and the sense of outraged boredom among a lot of their friends is almost comical.
They won't be friends for long if this continues.

[sadloserkid]

They won't be friends for long if this continues.

😅 I can't even begin to unravel the line of thought that caused that brainfart.

[Demesne Lad]

Sean Maguire preferred up front for Preston tonight, at home against Molumby's West Brom.

[sadloserkid]

Preston have scored!!!

[pineapple stu]

A 1-0 win though, which fits the pattern still.

Played 12, scored 4, conceded 4...

[sadloserkid]

1-1 at HT today. The streak is at serious risk.

[Demesne Lad]

Parrott comes on at half-time, scores, via a deflection -- and injures his hamstring and leaves the field (Talksport).

[sadloserkid]

Troy has scored! Preston have three. This is not a drill.

[JR89]

Troy has scored! Preston have three. This is not a drill.

Got injured during the celebration and had to come off unfortunately.

[seanfhear]

Got injured during the celebration and had to come off unfortunately.
Has the Mayo Curse moved to Preston ? ?

[Eirambler]

Saw the goal on the EFL highlights show, he was very clearly trying to cross it and it got a massive deflection just after he kicked it that took it 45 degrees in a different direction into the goal. I don't know if they have a Dubious Goals Panel in the Championship, but if they do it's hard to see him keeping the credit for that one.

[sadloserkid]

OPTA code those games. If the original shot was on target (even headed for the opposite corner) the goal should stay with Parrott. I haven't seen the goal I'll stress but I worked for OPTA for a time and that is their definition for a deflected goal versus an OG.

[Eirambler]

Interesting - it wasn't even a shot, he was trying to square the ball across the 6 yard box, so it definitely wasn't going anywhere near the goal. His only hope is that the deflection came so soon after he hit the cross that how far away from the goal the ball was headed mightn't actually be picked up.

[JR89]

There is a dubious goal committee for the EFL. If the EFL is similar to the PL then they go off Opta and if Opta aren't sure it's passed onto the committee. And I do think Opta are official data partners with the EFL also.

"The identity of the goalscorer is quickly identified by Opta, the Premier League's official data partners.

However, if there is doubt over the identification, it is reviewed by a three-person panel at the Premier League Match Centre.

[pineapple stu]

OPTA code those games. If the original shot was on target (even headed for the opposite corner) the goal should stay with Parrott. I haven't seen the goal I'll stress but I worked for OPTA for a time and that is their definition for a deflected goal versus an OG.

I presume that's to remove any question of whether the keeper would have saved it or not had it not been deflected?

[sadloserkid]

I presume that's to remove any question of whether the keeper would have saved it or not had it not been deflected?

Yeah. Pretty much. The really tricky part for an analyst (and all these games are coded in live time) is if the deflection occurs so soon after the shot that identifying the direction that ball was destined for becomes speculative. Clients (including official leagues) would sometimes query or push back against Opta's selection but, as a rule of thumb, we would generally (after review of course) back the analyst decision once we were happy with it.

[tetsujin1979]

His appearance at the weekend was his 100th club appearance. Not bad for someone his age

[Demesne Lad]

Parrott out 'for the foreseeable future', according to manager Ryan Lowe; he seems to mean until mid-December at the earliest, i.e. until the resumption of fixtures after the World Cup. Kenny will have to plan for the Norway game without Parrott, and presumably without Idah.

[Trequartista20]

Out 'for months' with hamstring injury.

https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/preston-north-end/tottenham-hotspur-loanee-set-to-miss-months-through-injury-confirms-preston-north-end-manager-3875053

[pineapple stu]

Ah balls.

I'm not sure I would have started him in the November games tbh - form isn't great and it's a good chance to look at such other options as we have - but he could do without this disruption so soon after getting off the mark.

[seanfhear]

Hamstrings are a bloody nuisance.

[JR89]

Ah balls.

I'm not sure I would have started him in the November games tbh - form isn't great and it's a good chance to look at such other options as we have - but he could do without this disruption so soon after getting off the mark.

Yeah even if he was fit and showing form would still have been better to try other options up front alongside Obafemi.

Even against Malta giving a front three another go is worth a go with Robinson and O'Dowda playing well at Cardiff. Even Brady is playing centrally at Preston now so could play him as one the two supporting the CF with Manning as LWB. Malta are a League D team after all.