Adam Idah F. Celtic b.2001

[Demesne Lad]

I remember one of them Pinkun reports getting right ratty back in January when he was questioned about a report and turned out he hadn't a scooby doo what he was talking about. I'd say this is just agent talk to try get Celtic to up their bid.

Cynical, but probably correct :-). No mention of interest on the Football Italia website.

[JR89]

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Idah not involved in Norwich's game again.

[JR89]

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[pineapple stu]

That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought of him as that kind of player tbh. Is this likely to be a concern for interested clubs? I'm thinking probably not, but still, not a great look.

[Olé Olé]

Not a great look, no. He might argue he hasn't felt much or enough love there so is keen to move on.

[JR89]

Doubt Celtic will see it as a problem that Idah might be forcing Norwich's hand to get the deal done.

[liamoo11]

Not a great look, no. He might argue he hasn't felt much or enough love there so is keen to move on.

Very disrespectful. If a xlub could afford it then I'd like to see them hold on to him and make him see his contract out. The club are paying his wages he needs to be professional in return

[CraftyToePoke]

Not a great look, no. He might argue he hasn't felt much or enough love there so is keen to move on.

Five year contract not long ago & the financial security of that for an unproven player at that point is a fair bit of love.

[pineapple stu]

Doubt Celtic will see it as a problem that Idah might be forcing Norwich's hand to get the deal done.
That's the way I'm leaning alright - they'll have dealt with him for five months anyway and will know what he's like.

Risk always is that Celtic feel their attack is doing fine at the moment and doesn't need strengthening, and now other suitors (Verona/Fiorentina) cool back a bit. But that's just football for you I guess.

[JR89]

That's the way I'm leaning alright - they'll have dealt with him for five months anyway and will know what he's like.

Risk always is that Celtic feel their attack is doing fine at the moment and doesn't need strengthening, and now other suitors (Verona/Fiorentina) cool back a bit. But that's just football for you I guess.

Think the risk is Celtic buying another forward rather than not bringing anyone in. Kyogo is the only senior CF they have and Johnston actually played there in their last two games I believe.

[pineapple stu]

Fair, yep.

[Eirambler]

Rare to see an Irish player go down this route, they're usually a fairly loyal bunch, often to their detriment. Will be interesting to see how it plays out, I suspect it will end up with Idah getting the move he wants.

[weldoninhio]

Very disrespectful. If a xlub could afford it then I'd like to see them hold on to him and make him see his contract out. The club are paying his wages he needs to be professional in return

I never get this argument, as if clubs are paragons of virtue, and the nasty players are out to screw them. If someone is playing garbage and on a 5 year contract, the club would be scrambling to get rid of him, have him training with the kids etc to force them out, but when a player does it, it's terrible.

[Olé Olé]

Comes on after 61mins away to Oxford and they are down 2-0.

[pineapple stu]

I see Jonathan Rowe "requested" not too be involved for Norwich today. Strange to see two forwards throwing little strops in a short time - and they've also lost Sara this season, one of their best attacking options last year.

Starting with defeat against a side than hasn't been at this level since 1999 isn't great either. Only one game of course, but could be a long season for Norwich.

[Trequartista20]

Fee agreed with Celtic. £8.5m, potentially rising to £9.5m.

[JR89]

So Celtic waited this long to sign Idah because Norwich were overvaluing him and have still potentially spent £9.5M with a 15% sell on clause.

[geysir]

Obviously Norwich wanted considerably more than what they got
It's ironic that Celtic could probably have gotten Idah for less than £5m instead of the loan deal, before everybody could see what he could do for Celtic under Rodgers. The guy adapted so fast to what was demanded of him.

[Razors left peg]

Delighted Celtic have got him. They got 2 or 3 million for Lawal who's only ever played one game for them so 8.5 for Idah is not unreasonable.

[pineapple stu]

Would have him as the Celtic's second highest transfer fee according to wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Celtic_F.C._records_and_statistics#Record_ transfer_fees_paid) (based on the initial fee). Norwich have done well to get extra money out of Celtic, a very typical bunch of Scots. :p

Good to have it finalised anyway.

[geysir]

Would have him as the Celtic's second highest transfer fee according to wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Celtic_F.C._records_and_statistics#Record_ transfer_fees_paid) (based on the initial fee). Norwich have done well to get extra money out of Celtic, a very typical bunch of Scots. :p

Good to have it finalised anyway.

Hmm, stereotyping Scots!!!

In living memory, the money paid by Celtic for Hartson, Lennon, Sutton, Valgaeran far outweigh what was spent on Idah by a country mile.

[CraftyToePoke]

Hmm, stereotyping Scots!!!

In living memory, the money paid by Celtic for Hartson, Lennon, Sutton, Valgaeran far outweigh what was spent on Idah by a country mile.

Hartson - 6 million.
Lennon - 5.75
Sutton - 6
Valgaeran - 4.8

Cursory Google figures but nothing far outweighs anything there, apart from your increasingly sporadic but delightfully entertaining contributions here. They outweigh all relationship to reality.

[Razors left peg]

Hartson - 6 million.
Lennon - 5.75
Sutton - 6
Valgaeran - 4.8

Cursory Google figures but nothing far outweighs anything there, apart from your increasingly sporadic but delightfully entertaining contributions here. They outweigh all relationship to reality.

Ah but Crafty you're not accounting for inflation. 6 million for Hartson is like 60 million in today's money ;)

[elatedscum]

Ah but Crafty you're not accounting for inflation. 6 million for Hartson is like 60 million in today's money ;)

£10.9m in today’s money (regular inflation)
£22.8m in today’s money (football transfer fee inflation)

;)

[Rayzor]

Delighted Celtic have got him. They got 2 or 3 million for Lawal who's only ever played one game for them so 8.5 for Idah is not unreasonable.

They had 80 million cash balance in their last set of accounts, add at least another 20 million from this year's season tickets, they are guaranteed a minimum of 40 million for this year's new champions league structure and will probably sell Matt Oreilly for close to 30 million. So that's about a pot of 170 million and they still took most of the summer haggling for a player that is a priority for Rodgers.

[Acornvilla]

I guess they didn't feel the need to rush as long as he was on board by Champions League, being there last year means he won't need the same time to settle that usual new signings would.

I think on balance it's a good move for Adam, I hope he has a season where he's fit and scores some goals, and lets see where that takes him.

[tetsujin1979]

They had 80 million cash balance in their last set of accounts, add at least another 20 million from this year's season tickets, they are guaranteed a minimum of 40 million for this year's new champions league structure and will probably sell Matt Oreilly for close to 30 million. So that's about a pot of 170 million and they still took most of the summer haggling for a player that is a priority for Rodgers.
Is it really that surprising? Only two players have transferred for more money to a Scottish club, ever - Odsonne Edouard to Celtic for £9m in 2018, and Tore Andre Flo to Rangers for £12m in 2000. Despite regular European competition, and selling at least eight players for more than £10million in the last ten years, including two for more than £20m - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_in_Scotland#Record_transfer_fees_ received - it's more money than Celtic have spent on all but one player in their history, or three if you adjust for inflation, as mentioned elsewhere.

[geysir]

Hartson - 6 million.
Lennon - 5.75
Sutton - 6
Valgaeran - 4.8

Cursory Google figures but nothing far outweighs anything there, apart from your increasingly sporadic but delightfully entertaining contributions here. They outweigh all relationship to reality.

Your toe pokes are not as crafty as you might think. Obviously you haven't got a clue about football transfer inflation figures, that's the reality.

[John83]

Make your points without getting personal, please.

[liamoo11]

So Celtic waited this long to sign Idah because Norwich were overvaluing him and have still potentially spent £9.5M with a 15% sell on clause.

Most celtic forums wanted him but didn't feel celtic should pay more than 4 or 5 million so paying double that will put him under alot of pressure from the fanbase

[JR89]

Most celtic forums wanted him but didn't feel celtic should pay more than 4 or 5 million so paying double that will put him under alot of pressure from the fanbase

And from reading the forums it seems £9.5M was more or less the figure Norwich always wanted. Probably could knock a couple of mill off that price if Celtic came in with a better bid than £4M a month or so ago.

[liamoo11]

And from reading the forums it seems £9.5M was more or less the figure Norwich always wanted. Probably could knock a couple of mill off that price if Celtic came in with a better bid than £4M a month or so ago.

Yeah and actually have him in the building 3 weeks ago to give them the best chance of making the breakthrough in Europe

[CraftyToePoke]

Your toe pokes are not as crafty as you might think. Obviously you haven't got a clue about football transfer inflation figures, that's the reality.

Yes yes, pretend it was an inflation linked observation.
Very good indeed.
It wasn't.

[geysir]

Yes yes, pretend it was an inflation linked observation.
Very good indeed.
It wasn't.

Now you are a mind reader and a failure at that. I have pedaled the transfer inflation issue before on many occasions. Follow the advice from the mod and quit with the personal jibes.

With your line of rationality, Idah's transfer cost more than Roy Keane's.

[backstothewall]

Celtic aren't going to pay anything like the fee Norwich want, and there doesn't seem to be a long queue of other suitors for his signature.

On that basis Celtic are probably right to play the waiting game. If Norwich want to sell, which I suspect they do, they may end up having to take whatever celtic are offering as the deadline approaches.

I reckon he'll go to Parkhead for less than £7m on the 30th or 31st of the month.

[CraftyToePoke]

Now you are a mind reader and a failure at that. I have pedaled the transfer inflation issue before on many occasions. Follow the advice from the mod and quit with the personal jibes.

With your line of rationality, Idah's transfer cost more than Roy Keane's.

You joined a discussion about it being a club record amount.
Which it is. That was what was being talked about.

There was nothing personal in my last post.

He hasn't cost more than the players you listed.
& you said nothing about or nothing to suggest it was inflation linked. Not one word.

[John83]

Geysir, crafty: further inflation-related bickering on PM. Further Idah-related conversation here. No further warnings before deletions and infractions.

[Razors left peg]

Geysir, crafty: further inflation-related bickering on PM. Further Idah-related conversation here. No further warnings before deletions and infractions.

What happened to the lighter touch moderation? The lads are having a discussion, let them on with it ffs

[Snapshot]

Geysir, crafty: further inflation-related bickering on PM. Further Idah-related conversation here. No further warnings before deletions and infractions.
John, with all due respect to the mods' work, this is a damaging rebuke. Two consistent and respected posters having, yes, a bicker. Nothing more than that. Put the sledgehammer away. "Lighter Touch" credibility is the only victim here.

[Olé Olé]

John, with all due respect to the mods' work, this is a damaging rebuke. Two consistent and respected posters having, yes, a bicker. Nothing more than that. Put the sledgehammer away. "Lighter Touch" credibility is the only victim here.

I thought archiving the thread regarding the managerial appointment saga was a bit unnecessary and a little pointless too.

[CraftyToePoke]

Thanks to those who have spoken up on this today, appreciated.
I was left pretty confused by the mod shut down on this last night to be honest.

Geysir had been challenged on something, he then adopted a bad faith and disingenuous position on it which I didn't accept, so I challenged that too. God forbid on a discussion forum, that should happen eh. The worst that would have happened is I would have asked him where he previously ( as he had claimed ) spoken about transfer fees / inflation comparisons and he would have backed that up, or he wouldn't have been able to. My money on the latter outcome.
Either way he had been caught out on this initial post on the matter because he had said nothing about inflation. He had simply had BS called on him and wasn't liking it. That is why he favoured the mod shut down, and why it shouldn't have come.

Geysir an me are big boys, we'll have a couple or three run ins like this a year and we are both well able for it and they don't rumble on. It gets a bit pointy and we then both go and get on with our real lives & there is no animosity between us beyond those moments.

I would ask, having been instructed by the owner of the site not to, why you are falling back to this method of modding and with signs of life in here this last week, if it is in the best interests of the site or if it is personal preference again.

There seems to be push back from others on it, and I waited until seeing if there was, or if it was just me before posting this.

[Razors left peg]

A point so good you made it twice Crafty :)

There have been a few times over the years on here when obvious trolls were allowed to constantly disrupt conversations because supposedly they were staying within the rules of the forum, we even had one clown claiming to be in Argentina and writing in broken english but yet it was tolerated for months if not years. Things like that are far more damaging to this forum than a couple of lads, who both are good regular posters, having a bit of a row. Let them get on with it, it generates a bit of interest and interaction which is what the place is supposed to be about.

It was the same in the Melia thread the other day, there was a bit of arguement, so what? Lads probably shouldnt be calling someone else illiterate but its not the worst insult in the world and that thread had about 3 or 4 pages of chat at a time when there is generally little going on. John83 you sarcastically made a point in that thread saying that you hope everyone is enjoying the new lighter moderation touch, yes it was much better. But here again the urge to shut down a conversation seems to over power.

I agree with Ole Ole, shutting down the Managerial Thread was completely unnecessary. Especially with Carsley getting the England gig there might be a bit of scope for talk about him in the run up to the September games. So what if its not strictly related to Ireland, its interaction and chat which is what that thread in the support forum was talking about trying to improve.

We all come here because we want to talk about football topics, shutting these topics down just because 1 person doesnt agree with what or how its being discussed is counterproductive to keeping this place going in the long run.

[Diggs246]

The hilarious thing about belisa/ Javier was , tets checked the IP( or whatever it is) and he actually was posting from Argentina! Now I'm now saying for a second he's Argentinian. He's not, I guess he's from templeogue. !

[Razors left peg]

The hilarious thing about belisa/ Javier was , tets checked the IP( or whatever it is) and he actually was posting from Argentina! Now I'm now saying for a second he's Argentinian. He's not, I guess he's from templeogue. !

Yeah I heard that, he must have been using a VPN or something. He was committed to the bit if nothing else, a very special kind of weirdo ;)

When I was growing up in the Galway there was a lad that used to go around town thinking he was Elvis, maybe yer man really thought he was Argentinian!

[yurt]

I think it's a great transfer for him. Delighted it's finally confirmed. With the new champions league format it means Celtic are going to play at least 8 games in it. That's great experience for him if he can be the first choice striker for those games.

[Razors left peg]

I think it's a great transfer for him. Delighted it's finally confirmed. With the new champions league format it means Celtic are going to play at least 8 games in it. That's great experience for him if he can be the first choice striker for those games.

Its still not 100% confirmed by Celtic from what I can see, but Im with you and delighted about it. I enjoyed watching Celtic that little bit more with him involved last year and his winner against Rangers was the highlight of the football season for me.

[CraftyToePoke]

I think it's a great transfer for him. Delighted it's finally confirmed. With the new champions league format it means Celtic are going to play at least 8 games in it. That's great experience for him if he can be the first choice striker for those games.

I like it too.

The SPL & Celtic brings its own set of challenges, beyond the questionable opposition & overall standard ones. He'd be at a club where second is last & its a pressure cooker every week, you have to win. They also have probably the most deluded fanbase in terms of their place in the world. All that said, it is a big club, and you need to be able for that.

Your opponent every week will up their game for either sectarian reasons or because they'd like to play in green & white themselves. Or because they're aiming to transfer to a better contract league & performances against the big two are a good way of doing that.

Let him do well there, see if he can top score the SPL & survey his choices at 25. If he does well he'll be in a nice position coming into his peak years & he'll have won things, he'll have medals. He will have had lots of top European competition opportunities to show if hes good enough to go higher.
Norwich will still be Norwich, Norwich will always be Norwich. Fcuk Norwich.

[Razors left peg]

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[zero]

happy for him but i do slightly worry if he hits a barren spell how the fans might react.

i guess that's true at any big club which celtic still are.

[joey B]

I think it’s a great move for him and any player that’s playing Champions League football should be welcomed,we don’t have enough players playing elite European football and that has to change for us to get better….