Declan Rice

[tricky_colour]

So long as we discuss the thread not the person it is fine.

[OwlsFan]

The Grealish thread was transferred to World Football when he declared for England. Should this one not go the same way? It pains me seeing it in the Irish Forum - like viewing a festering wound every day.

[tetsujin1979]

I was vilified for transferring the Grealish thread when I did, and people still say it should be in this folder

[Eminence Grise]

Set up a poll? Give it a week?

[CraftyToePoke]

Set up a poll? Give it a week?

Was gonna say the same

Power devolved is power retained tets, do a poll.

[tetsujin1979]

I laid out the criteria when he changed his allegiance, it hasn't changed since then.
If you want the thread to be moved, stop posting in it

[DeLorean]

I was vilified for transferring the Grealish thread when I did, and people still say it should be in this folder

I seem to be a lone ranger in that regard. I think it's pretty obvious the vast majority just want it gone asap.

[Fizzer]

Hard to know the right approach.It’d be nice if the thread just died off naturally, the Stephen Ireland one was torture, (other than in latter years with the reports of injuries and the decline into obscurity).
Rice togging out for England,singing god save the queen etc will mean the thread could stay alive for a good while yet.
Maybe a boycott, with a forfeit of some kind for posting on it, say you have to try to get a hold of Bamford and/or his dad.

[Diggs246]

I was vilified for transferring the Grealish thread when I did, and people still say it should be in this folder

You won't be vilified this time, it will be greeted with acclaim

[SkStu]

Just move the thread for God’s sake. The 10-15 people who still post in this forum are in favour so, you know, it should be fine.

[zero]

I don't mind if tets moves it or not, I just wish he'd reach some decision ;)

[tetsujin1979]

thread moved, it's someone else's problem now

[Kingdom]

Just move the thread for God’s sake. The 10-15 people who still post in this forum are in favour so, you know, it should be fine.

I'm pretty disappointed that Tets has been badgered, harangued, and cajoled into moving the Rice from one field to another. It's a rainy day for foot, and all the turmoil that's bubbling away under the surface isnt going to make the Rice situation anymore palatable. I suggest that it's moved back to the Ireland forum, and allowed to drain away until the situation has dried out.

[Eminence Grise]

Plastic paddy field. And that's my last word on this.

[The Fly]

Rice's switch has been approved by FIFA. I'd like to know the exact timeline here because, on the face of it, the process seems to have been completed quite quickly...and it poses an obvious question re Daniel Crowley.

[OwlsFan]

I'm pretty disappointed that Tets has been badgered, harangued, and cajoled into moving the Rice from one field to another. It's a rainy day for foot, and all the turmoil that's bubbling away under the surface isnt going to make the Rice situation anymore palatable. I suggest that it's moved back to the Ireland forum, and allowed to drain away until the situation has dried out.

Better to wither away here where only I post than in the active forum where it is a reminder of a lingering pain that won't go away.

[IsMiseSean]

Just when you thought this whole thing couldn't get any worse - the FAI announce Rice is to be awarded 'young player of the year'.

What are they playing at??

[jbyrne]

Just when you thought this whole thing couldn't get any worse - the FAI announce Rice is to be awarded 'young player of the year'.

What are they playing at??

totally speechless. what a shower of wallys

[Kingdom]

Is it possible to second one's own proposal on this forum?

[Diggs246]

Oh sweet Jesus the final humiliation is complete
https://www.the42.ie/declan-rice-young-player-of-the-year-award-4537483-Mar2019/#comments

[OwlsFan]

Oh sweet Jesus the final humiliation is complete
https://www.the42.ie/declan-rice-young-player-of-the-year-award-4537483-Mar2019/#comments

For who ? Him or us ? Embarrassing for him to win the award now that he has changed sides.

[Diggs246]

For who ? Him or us ? Embarrassing for him to win the award now that he has changed sides.

For everyone

[Razors left peg]

Jesus, so easy to avoid this, just announce whoever came 2nd in the voting. There was absolutely no need to even bring this up at all. Amateur hour.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Just when you thought this whole thing couldn't get any worse - the FAI announce Rice is to be awarded 'young player of the year'.

What are they playing at??

It's media that votes for that right? I don't know if the rules - if they exist in a clear form - provide for disqualifying someone in the circumstances.

[TrapAPony]

He will probably be named in his first English squad tomorrow and get an FAI award in the same week. The FAI really are a bunch of dimwits.

[tetsujin1979]

I'd have a degree of sympathy for the FAI on this one.
The award is voted on by the soccer writers association of Ireland, not the FAI. Refuse to award it to him, or cancel the award, and every headline in the morning is "FAI refuse to honour soccer writer's decision". Award it to the second placed player (say Obafemi) and the player knows he's won it more or less by default.

[jbyrne]

I'd have a degree of sympathy for the FAI on this one.
The award is voted on by the soccer writers association of Ireland, not the FAI. Refuse to award it to him, or cancel the award, and every headline in the morning is "FAI refuse to honour soccer writer's decision". Award it to the second placed player (say Obafemi) and the player knows he's won it more or less by default.

handing the award to rice is worse than any of the scenarios outlined above

[gastric]

It shows the love we had for him. When the English media turn on the England team, he can reflect on how nice we are.

[osarusan]

The FAI could have just said nothing and given it to whoever finished second. Save them some embarrassment and I'm sure Rice doesn't want the publicity either.

[Grafter]

Jesus, so easy to avoid this, just announce whoever came 2nd in the voting. There was absolutely no need to even bring this up at all. Amateur hour.

Lads who would you give the award to then?? 2018 was such a NON-EVENT! for the Irish senior mens team. Looking forward to goal of the year because there were only FOUR goals in calendar year I think!? As for senior mens player of the year....
Best to exclude the senior team altogether this year perhaps and focus on awarding other groups, it is about diversity afterall:applause:

[Diggs246]

I'd have a degree of sympathy for the FAI on this one.
The award is voted on by the soccer writers association of Ireland, not the FAI. Refuse to award it to him, or cancel the award, and every headline in the morning is "FAI refuse to honour soccer writer's decision". Award it to the second placed player (say Obafemi) and the player knows he's won it more or less by default.

I don't agree, if Michael Jackson is up for "Baby sitter of the year award" you drop it , you don't continue

[jbyrne]

i agree with richard dunnes angle...

"if the games he played aren’t important enough to make him qualify for Ireland then I think the voting should only be done on qualifiers,"

[tetsujin1979]

I don't agree, if Michael Jackson is up for "Baby sitter of the year award" you drop it , you don't continue
It's not really like that. At all.
then every paper will have a story about how the FAI asked journalists to vote for the young player of the year, then didn't award it.


i agree with richard dunnes angle...

"if the games he played aren’t important enough to make him qualify for Ireland then I think the voting should only be done on qualifiers,"
there wasn't many stand out players from the qualifiers either

[DeLorean]

then every paper will have a story about how the FAI asked journalists to vote for the young player of the year, then didn't award it.

And everybody would understand why.

[Eminence Grise]

Simple solution: Rice can decline the award through his agent. If he has a shred of integrity it's the only thing to do. No journos snubbed, no boos at the award ceremony, no other player being offered it knowing they were second place by a long distance. Probably no lessons learned by the FAI but what's new, hey?

[Diggs246]

It's not really like that. At all.
then every paper will have a story about how the FAI asked journalists to vote for the young player of the year, then didn't award it.


My point is, is that his candidacy is no long suitable and therefore should have withdrawn. They either revote or hand who came 2nd the award

[Deckydee]

It be official > http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/mar/13/england-squad-named-for-czech-republic-and-montenegro-130319

[tetsujin1979]

My point is, is that his candidacy is no long suitable and therefore should have withdrawn. They either revote or hand who came 2nd the award

The vote was taken before he changed his allegiance. According Neil Riordan on Twitter, it was mid January, and five journalists were polled for their votes, so the result would have been known between them.

What does it say to whoever came second, "you weren't as godo as Rice, but he's not here, so have a trophy"

[TrapAPony]

The vote was taken before he changed his allegiance. According Neil Riordan on Twitter, it was mid January, and five journalists were polled for their votes, so the result would have been known between them.

What does it say to whoever came second, "you weren't as godo as Rice, but he's not here, so have a trophy"

Once he switched to England he should automatically have been disqualified. It is completely mind boggling stuff to give a player who has just been called up to the England senior squad today, the Irish young player of the year award. If it is not team 33 requests, then it is this kind of silly stuff from the FAI. They are an embarrassment.

[Diggs246]

The vote was taken before he changed his allegiance. According Neil Riordan on Twitter, it was mid January, and five journalists were polled for their votes, so the result would have been known between them.

What does it say to whoever came second, "you weren't as godo as Rice, but he's not here, so have a trophy"

Let me break this baby down for you
(A) Young (B) Irish ( C) Player of the year

So you need to tick 3 boxes

A) Young
B) Be Irish
C) And a good player

Declan Rice ticks 2 boxes

So does Paul McGrath and Seamus Coleman

Why not give it to one of them?. I will tell you why ….because they don’t qualify

[DeLorean]

Take it to World Football lads. :o

[jbyrne]

sundays awards are going to be a farce.
I wouldn't envy the tv presenters having to keep a straight face as they announce the winner and then have to say ".... declan couldn't be with us tonight as he is currently preparing for his first cap for England.... "

[tetsujin1979]

Let me break this baby down for you
(A) Young (B) Irish ( C) Player of the year

So you need to tick 3 boxes

A) Young
B) Be Irish
C) And a good player

Declan Rice ticks 2 boxes

So does Paul McGrath and Seamus Coleman

Why not give it to one of them?. I will tell you why ….because they don’t qualify

you missed "(D) At the time of the vote"

[Diggs246]

you missed "(D) At the time of the vote"

No I didn't man. My first post was this:
"if Michael Jackson is up for "Baby sitter of the year award" you drop it , you don't continue"
As of circa a month ago we know Declan Rice is not Irish

[Olé Olé]

Southgate's comments: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0313/1036263-southgate-rice-critics-havent-walked-in-his-shoes/

[SkStu]

Up the ‘ra, Deco ye pr!ck!

[jbyrne]

he is only with england a wet week and already has been involved in two media incidents.
welcome to the press / england player toxic relationship mr rice!!

[liamoo11]

Such a statement he only said it to show support for his team mates sure all them Irish are ra heads. This lad is incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. He will have to wear a poppy all year round to make up for this

[Eminence Grise]

Doesn't take long for the Brit media to turn on their own - I doubt it would have happened if he'd stayed with us. He may have to get used to more of the same.

[SkStu]

Such a statement he only said it to show support for his team mates sure all them Irish are ra heads. This lad is incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. He will have to wear a poppy all year round to make up for this

Spot on. Said the same thing to another group earlier. Chucking his provo Irish teammates under the bus to deflect attention away from his words. If you decide to go with “Up the ‘ra” then you own it. Complete w@nker.