Declan Rice

[tommy_c12000]

Nothing to substantiate the claim apart from the sensationalist headline. Trademark reporting from the gutter press that is the Irish Independent

[Charlie Darwin]

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/fai-confident-following-talks-between-declan-rice-and-mick-mccarthy-37646718.html?__twitter_impression=true A story so made up it took two to write it. Someone should tweet Fallon about Stephen Ireland son and delaps son he could start writing articles about their future international intentions now it might keep him in a job for another five or six years
Unless the article has changed since you posted it, he's just passing on what an FAI source told him? Which I'm sure is accurate. Whether that source is talking out his hoop is another matter.

[Diggs246]

Unless the article has changed since you posted it, he's just passing on what an FAI source told him? Which I'm sure is accurate. Whether that source is talking out his hoop is another matter.
There no" an Fai source said" or a quote
this is low rent journalism.

[CraftyToePoke]

Malone in the IT saying its going our way too.

- https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/declan-rice-set-to-commit-to-ireland-1.3739529?mode=amp

[Charlie Darwin]

There no" an Fai source said" or a quote
this is low rent journalism.
So what if they don't quote a source? Quoting a fake source is the same as referring to a fake source, if that's what you think it is.

Anyway, the Irish Times are saying the same thing now so it looks like Fallon was right.

[Olé Olé]

A bit more weight behind Malone's article with the suggestion an announcement is imminent and that the FAI sources have been suggesting it.

Fingers crossed.

[gastric]

Hopefully Rice commits before Christmas as it would certainly be a great present for all Irish fans. Would mean we would also start the upcoming qualifiers with a full deck too. Is optimism returning?

[IsMiseSean]

Which ever way he decides - an announcement must be close.
If it's England he'll need to start on the paperwork to be eligible for the March qualifiers.

[tricky_colour]

Well it would be nice if it happens but we will have to wait an see, nothing on his twitter bar his 50 appearances for West Ham. Plenty of Irish flags posted in the comments, but nothing more than that. so we will have to wait and see, fingers crossed!!

[Diggs246]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1223/1018842-mccarthy-describes-meeting-with-rice-as-really-good/

[Paddy Garcia]

Quotes from McCarthy far less firm than the stories circulating yesterday.

[tricky_colour]

Yea a bit early to be counting chickens methinks.

[Diggs246]

He has had 5 months to "think" about it and now he has another 3 months. I wish he would take his stones out of his agent purse and just decide

[IsMiseSean]

He has had 5 months to "think" about it and now he has another 3 months. I wish he would take his stones out of his agent purse and just decide

He doesn't really have 3 more months to think about it. He needs to begin the process of switching if he's going with England.
His stock has never been higher - he'd be on the cusp of an England call-up in March if he continues his progression.

I think we'll get a decision in the first few weeks in January.

[Diggs246]

He doesn't really have 3 more months to think about it. He needs to begin the process of switching if he's going with England.
His stock has never been higher - he'd be on the cusp of an England call-up in March if he continues his progression.

I think we'll get a decision in the first few weeks in January.

I hope your right. His clearance to play for england will take 6 months, so he is missing a few games anyway

[Olé Olé]

Has just signed a contract until summer 2024. Very interesting timing given recent talks with McCarthy and that if he were switching to England in time for Match he would want to do it now. Hopefully there's some news in the next few days.

[Diggs246]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/england-move-for-rice-as-contract-resolved-37664632.html

[Cathalsmart]

Not trying to deny the report but if it was roles reversed and it was McCarthy is hopeful than we would be dismissing the article as fake news and click bait...just saying. These reports do seem more like 2 & 2 being put together and hoping to get a 4, what the deal to me concludes is his decision has been made and no more than that. Not saying he isnt going to play for England but not saying he will either until genuine quote come out.

[Diggs246]

Not trying to deny the report but if it was roles reversed and it was McCarthy is hopeful than we would be dismissing the article as fake news and click bait...just saying. These reports do seem more like 2 & 2 being put together and hoping to get a 4, what the deal to me concludes is his decision has been made and no more than that. Not saying he isnt going to play for England but not saying he will either until genuine quote come out.

The level of journalism in the Rice situation has been hopeless alright. I still think he was gone the day he refused the call up verus Wales

[Olé Olé]

How John Fallon is earning a living as a journalist penning self-contradictory dross every chance he gets is beyond me.

[IsMiseSean]

How John Fallon is earning a living as a journalist penning self-contradictory dross every chance he gets is beyond me.

I actually laughed out loud when I read his article this morning.

[Diggs246]

I would pay a grand to slap Declan Rice across the face. Yes or No declan, Yes or No.
No more thinking or talking or meetings its Yes or No

[tricky_colour]

I can't say I am optimistic. I'd like to be wrong but I think the writing is on the wall, or rather not on the wall, at least not in our wall. I feel it in my bones.

[TrapAPony]

I still think he was gone the day he refused the call up verus Wales

That is exactly what I think. We are just clinging on to hope.

[Eminence Grise]

I would pay a grand to slap Declan Rice across the face. Yes or No declan, Yes or No.
No more thinking or talking or meetings its Yes or No

Give him another £40 grand or so, and he's yours for the best part of a week.

But, yeah: time to end the speculation.

[tetsujin1979]

Jonathan Walters was commenting on man city - Liverpool last night, and had this to say about Declan Rice after the game
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To me, it sounds like either he knows something but can't say it, or he doesn't know anything but doesn't want to admit it

[Kingdom]

How John Fallon is earning a living as a journalist penning self-contradictory dross every chance he gets is beyond me.

I don't particularly like the Indo as a rule. However I was communicating with someone in the Irish media who would be considered to be very straight, middle-of-the-road, who has stood up for Fallon, and how he is quite well-informed, but perhaps there are others involved in the Indo who are putting pressure on this story without having the necessary backup, and are using other avenues to exploit it. Why I'm not sure, but that's what I was told anyway.

[The Fly]

Another assured performance from Rice today, by all accounts.

In one sense it's a pity he's providing these sorts of displays so regularly and so soon, as without them he would've gone under the radar for a while longer which would've been to our benefit. But...there you go.

[tetsujin1979]

Just notice his birthday is coming up, he's 20 on the 14th
We might hear something then.

[tricky_colour]

Just notice his birthday is coming up, he's 20 on the 14th
We might hear something then.

What this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-1fTlSDF0

Actually it does sound like his name especially if you sing in a Chinese accent.

[Olé Olé]

https://twitter.com/_DeclanRice/status/1081651009192120323?s=19

Hopefully if he misses Ronan so much he is going to arrange a get together in March.

[IsMiseSean]

https://twitter.com/_DeclanRice/status/1081651009192120323?s=19

Hopefully if he misses Ronan so much he is going to arrange a get together in March.

He is such a tease....

[Stuttgart88]

https://twitter.com/_DeclanRice/status/1081651009192120323?s=19

Hopefully if he misses Ronan so much he is going to arrange a get together in March.Yeah I noticed that. Its not the first time either. He appears really close to Curtis. Mick should take note!

[geysir]

Do you think Declan is beset by some good old fashioned Irish procrastinationon about this lingering question? If so, is that in our favour?

[Diggs246]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/i-will-make-a-decision-soon-declan-rice-on-international-future-following-talks-with-ireland-and-england-37699081.html

Ah yes the "Evening standard" the man is so going to England its not even funny. His treatment of the people of Ireland has been a disgrace, even this tactical article to break us in slowly to his defection

Does anyone who is not in John Of Gods now think he is staying?

[Olé Olé]

The brother is mentioned there. O'Neill said "the brothers" wanted him to play for us. Not sure if that's his uncles or own brothers.

[SkStu]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/i-will-make-a-decision-soon-declan-rice-on-international-future-following-talks-with-ireland-and-england-37699081.html

Ah yes the "Evening standard" the man is so going to England its not even funny. His treatment of the people of Ireland has been a disgrace, even this tactical article to break us in slowly to his defection

Does anyone who is not in John Of Gods now think he is staying?

As a committed John of Gods member, I hold out hope and am still leaning more towards him staying with us.

For every ambiguous comment, there are equally ambiguous suggestions that he might be coming to us (Walters interview). I don't know, I don't hate him for how this has shaken down. He's young, he's good and he has had his head turned by Gareth Southgate, manager of the country of his birth and the birth of his parents.

The main criticism I have here is over the behavior of Southgate on this case (as well as what seems to be his or the FA's greedy modus operandi of handing out call ups and caps to borderline players with dual eligibility). If I was to place some blame at Rice's feet it would be over his failure to say no to Southgate when he tapped his shoulder. It would have been far easier to say "no thanks, I have made my decision - check out these lovely green caps" at that point than it is now.

[The Fly]

As a committed John of Gods member, I hold out hope and am still leaning more towards him staying with us.

For every ambiguous comment, there are equally ambiguous suggestions that he might be coming to us (Walters interview). I don't know, I don't hate him for how this has shaken down. He's young, he's good and he has had his head turned by Gareth Southgate, manager of the country of his birth and the birth of his parents.


I'd say it's far more likely that his head was 'turned' by England's showing in the World Cup, and not by Southgate.

[The Fly]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/i-will-make-a-decision-soon-declan-rice-on-international-future-following-talks-with-ireland-and-england-37699081.html

Ah yes the "Evening standard" the man is so going to England its not even funny.

It's a London paper; he's from London; he plays for a London club. Settle.



His treatment of the people of Ireland has been a disgrace, even this tactical article to break us in slowly to his defection

Does anyone who is not in John Of Gods now think he is staying?

I have no problem whatsoever with players who have dual nationality weighing up their options, because they have de facto dual loyalties. My main problem is that a player can do so after playing for the senior team. The fact that these caps came in friendly internationals may matter under the FIFA rules, but they matter little to me on principle. That said, I still hope that Rice decides to remain with us.

It looks like we're going to find out one way or the other soon.

[Diggs246]

It's a London paper; he's from London; he plays for a London club. Settle.



I have no problem whatsoever with players who have dual nationality weighing up their options, because they have de facto dual loyalties. My main problem is that a player can do so after playing for the senior team. The fact that these caps came in friendly internationals may matter under the FIFA rules, but they matter little to me on principle. That said, I still hope that Rice decides to remain with us.

It looks like we're going to find out one way or the other soon.

So? we have an invention called the telephone, he is using a very English paper and an English journalist for a very good reason

[jbyrne]

So? we have an invention called the telephone, he is using a very English paper and an English journalist for a very good reason

maybe the intention is to let England fans down gently??

[Dunners]

I was quietly confident that he would stay with us and that this was all dragged out due to his contract negotiations ( better deal if he was with England and so on)
But the comments he made in the interview regarding ambitions cant go unnoticed

"As for now, I want to play at the top level throughout my career. I want to win trophies, even the Champions League. You have to be ambitious. If not, what's the point?"

[Diggs246]

maybe the intention is to let England fans down gently??

and maybe Cindy Crawford will jump into bed with me tonight.... come on man! are u serious?

[Dunners]

Contracts done , really no excuse now for the indecision. I believe his brother initially wanted him to play for England then apparently had a change of heart (read that somewhere from an O’Neil quote)

[Olé Olé]

I was quietly confident that he would stay with us and that this was all dragged out due to his contract negotiations ( better deal if he was with England and so on)
But the comments he made in the interview regarding ambitions cant go unnoticed

"As for now, I want to play at the top level throughout my career. I want to win trophies, even the Champions League. You have to be ambitious. If not, what's the point?"

Does that not also apply for his club career? Why did he sign a new contract with West Ham when he could get a move to Man City or someone else? Ireland make more international tournaments than West Ham do Champions Leagues.

[The Fly]

So? we have an invention called the telephone, he is using a very English paper and an English journalist for a very good reason

The focus of the interview is on his club career to date.


I was quietly confident that he would stay with us and that this was all dragged out due to his contract negotiations ( better deal if he was with England and so on)
But the comments he made in the interview regarding ambitions cant go unnoticed

"As for now, I want to play at the top level throughout my career. I want to win trophies, even the Champions League. You have to be ambitious. If not, what's the point?"

What's more ambitious than winning a trophy with Ireland? :p

[paul_oshea]

"With regard to my international future, myself, my dad and my brother (Connor) have talked with Ireland coach Mick McCarthy and I’ve also spoken to Gareth Southgate.


Connor and Declan, his father must have very little influence. He'd have 3 more ireland caps by now anyway.

[paul_oshea]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/i-will-make-a-decision-soon-declan-rice-on-international-future-following-talks-with-ireland-and-england-37699081.html

Ah yes the "Evening standard" the man is so going to England its not even funny. His treatment of the people of Ireland has been a disgrace, even this tactical article to break us in slowly to his defection

Does anyone who is not in John Of Gods now think he is staying?

Evening Standard is a london evening paper, its closely associated with the irons. Allardyce and Bilic both wrote weekly articles when in charge. If anyone speaks from west ham they speak to the Evening Standard. Init blood.

[Real ale Madrid]

and maybe Cindy Crawford will jump into bed with me tonight.... come on man! are u serious?

Showing your age there Diggs246 - there will be young-fellas reading that and saying "Who?"

[Diggs246]

Showing your age there Diggs246 - there will be young-fellas reading that and saying "Who?"

The funny thing is i was going to say "Samantha Fox"