LOI Attendances 2016

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

2,058 in The Showgrounds

[joey B]

2061 in Finn Park.

[gufc2000]

Wexford Youths Twitter- 709 at Ferrycarrig Park

[dublinwanderer]

Shocking attendance at the bray v Derry game. Max 500.

The club just don't like to advertise or do anything in be area to let the people of bray know there is a match on. Only going to get worse!

[White Horse]

Wexford Youths Twitter- 709 at Ferrycarrig Park

Looked like a lot more when I got to the car park! I can't remember seeing as many cars at a LOI ground before.

[Nesta99]

I can't remember seeing as many cars at a LOI ground before.

Not even at Milltown?..........

[Louth4sam]

not even at milltown?..........

poty!

[brendy_éire]

In that case I don't know what to think.

I think Derry attendances may have to be guess-work because VAT is due on ticket sales.

[Mr A]

I'll just have to head up on Friday night and count the crowd myself.

[nigel-harps1954]

Weekend games:

Dundalk v Finn Harps - 3,216
Derry City v Cork - 2,500 (estimate)
Shamrock Rovers v Wexford Youths - 2,353
Bohemians v Sligo Rovers - 2,115
Galway United v Bray Wanderers - 1,627
Longford Town v St Pat's Ath - 725
Waterford United v Limerick - 720
Cobh Ramblers v Drogheda United - 497
UCD v Cabinteely - 226

Midweek:

Cork City v Longford Town - 2,302
Finn Harps v Shamrock Rovers - 2,061
Sligo Rovers v Galway United - 2,058
St Pat's Ath v Bohemians - 1,718
Wexford Youths v Dundalk - 709

Bray Wanderers v Derry City - ? (Will go with 500 for now)

[nigel-harps1954]

Week 2: (First update)

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 2,115 (1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 1,102 (769; 718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 3,165 (3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 2,500 (1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Dundalk - 3,216 (3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,627 (1,290; 975 FD)
Harps - 3,128(784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD; 480 FD) -
Longford - 725 (803; 567 FD; 379 FD; 365 FD; 315 FD; 230 FD; 260 FD)
Pat's - 1,672 (1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 2,353 (2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 2,563 (1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
Wexford - 839 (553 FD; 331 FD; 227 FD; 302 FD; 216 FD; 343 FD; 494 FD)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 0 (314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 902 (610)
Cobh - 497 (366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Drogheda - 736 (813 PD; 1,064 PD; 817 PD; 977 PD; 811 PD; 859 PD; 1,106 PD)
Limerick - 1,252 (1,206 PD; 757 PD; 1,649 PD; 734; 569; 598; 429)
Shels - 664 (596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 226 (216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 720 (460; 470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)


PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,082(1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 714 (486; 495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,699 (1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)


TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: Week 1: 19,203
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: Week 2: 13,979 (9 games)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: Midweek: 9,348 ​(6 games)

OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 37,473 (332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 4,997 (54,474; 55,408)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 42,470 ​(387,279; 352,742)

[Mr A]

Disappointing figure for Athlone, they'll have been hoping for better than that.

[nigel-harps1954]

Disappointing figure for Athlone, they'll have been hoping for better than that.

They haven't been counting the stewards and ball boys in their figures so far, so it's not entirely reflective.

[vinnie]

Nigel the figure for Rovers can't be right, looked like there was over 3000 to me, unless as said previously, trying to save a bit of Tax ;)

[outspoken]

Shocking attendance at the bray v Derry game. Max 500.

The club just don't like to advertise or do anything in be area to let the people of bray know there is a match on. Only going to get worse!

Will be happy if we even get 500 Saturday. Dark days ahead

[El-Pietro]

Nigel the figure for Rovers can't be right, looked like there was over 3000 to me, unless as said previously, trying to save a bit of Tax ;)
That's not relevant to clubs in the South. Only Derry City pay V.A.T. on match tickets in the LOI

[nigel-harps1954]

Nigel the figure for Rovers can't be right, looked like there was over 3000 to me, unless as said previously, trying to save a bit of Tax ;)

That last nights game in Finn Park? The figures released by Harps are paying customers on the night only. Always misses a couple hundred off the attendance figures.

[Market's Field]

Nigel, what do the figures in brackets for club represent?

[nigel-harps1954]

Nigel, what do the figures in brackets for club represent?

Previous seasons averages.

[oriel]

Thanks for starting this off again for the new season Nigel, always interesting to read, and I'm sure it takes up a fair bit of time.

[vinnie]

That last nights game in Finn Park? The figures released by Harps are paying customers on the night only. Always misses a couple hundred off the attendance figures.

Sorry meant Rovers v Wexford Game, definitely over 3000

[oriel]

Not always the most accurate of sources, but the Irish Star had 2,800 for Rovers v Wexford. Any over / under estimate would end if Rovers went back to releasing official figures, I think they are available but they seem to be difficult to get from the club?

One thing to note on all attendances, a reminder on how they are broken down, this is common with all clubs in UK and I know Dundalk follow the same method.

ST figures are always included on the figure released regardless if they have attended the match or so. So only those paying in or getting a ticket for any other reason will be counted on the night, then that figure is added to the total ST sales. Dundalk had 1,300 ST sold last year, I don't have the figure this year, its not far off that, so in our case any attendance figure will start at that point, then sales or tickets issued on the night added to it.

I have seen posts from fans saying 'this figure does not include ST' etc, I don't think that is correct and most clubs would have included the ST figure when releasing the official attendance.

[Market's Field]

Previous seasons averages.

Thanks!

[Dalymountrower]

Not always the most accurate of sources, but the Irish Star had 2,800 for Rovers v Wexford. Any over / under estimate would end if Rovers went back to releasing official figures, I think they are available but they seem to be difficult to get from the club?

One thing to note on all attendances, a reminder on how they are broken down, this is common with all clubs in UK and I know Dundalk follow the same method.

ST figures are always included on the figure released regardless if they have attended the match or so. So only those paying in or getting a ticket for any other reason will be counted on the night, then that figure is added to the total ST sales. Dundalk had 1,300 ST sold last year, I don't have the figure this year, its not far off that, so in our case any attendance figure will start at that point, then sales or tickets issued on the night added to it.

I have seen posts from fans saying 'this figure does not include ST' etc, I don't think that is correct and most clubs would have included the ST figure when releasing the official attendance.

I know that Dundalk have always counted them, as far as I know, Bohs don`t count members/season ticket holders who do not attend

[nigel-harps1954]

Sorry meant Rovers v Wexford Game, definitely over 3000

2,353 was the official figure from the game.


Not always the most accurate of sources, but the Irish Star had 2,800 for Rovers v Wexford. Any over / under estimate would end if Rovers went back to releasing official figures, I think they are available but they seem to be difficult to get from the club?

One thing to note on all attendances, a reminder on how they are broken down, this is common with all clubs in UK and I know Dundalk follow the same method.

ST figures are always included on the figure released regardless if they have attended the match or so. So only those paying in or getting a ticket for any other reason will be counted on the night, then that figure is added to the total ST sales. Dundalk had 1,300 ST sold last year, I don't have the figure this year, its not far off that, so in our case any attendance figure will start at that point, then sales or tickets issued on the night added to it.

I have seen posts from fans saying 'this figure does not include ST' etc, I don't think that is correct and most clubs would have included the ST figure when releasing the official attendance.

Maybe that's just the case with Dundalk.

[oriel]

I think its the most accurate way of getting a figure as anyone with a ST is likely to attend most matches, besides not including ST sales in a figure released makes little sense, as you are under reporting the figure, and for clubs with larger ST numbers, the figure will be well under stated.

This is obviously not the case for FAI Cup games when ST's are not valid.

[El-Pietro]

If they aren't attending then why should they be counted in the attendance? Surely just counting every person is the easiest way to know the total attendance?

[oriel]

ST's used to be scanned in oriel park, not anymore, you just display and walk past, so they only count tickets sold or issued on the night. I think anyone having a ST would miss very few games, I missed one home last year and none the year before, so it would be a high percentage going to all games, holidays obviously the exception.

It probably would make for a more accurate figure if every single person is counted but I'd say the figure DFC issue is usually very close to the actual crowd in attendance.

[Jofspring]

Munster count season tickets and 10 year tickets for every game, even if they don't attend. The last match in Thomond park had around 6,000-7,000 but they reported 14,000.

[nigel-harps1954]

Dundalk v Cork - 3,528
Bohs v Wexford - 1,336
Shels v Cabo - 568

[gufc2000]

From extratime, all estimates:

Derry -v- Galway 1500
Drogs -v- Athlone 550
UCD -v- Waterford 250
Rovers -v- Pats 2000

[Charlie Darwin]

From extratime, all estimates:

Derry -v- Galway 1500
Drogs -v- Athlone 550
UCD -v- Waterford 250
Rovers -v- Pats 2000
Double the Rovers figure at least, no idea where they got that from.

[forza]

Double the Rovers figure at least, no idea where they got that from.

Indeed it was a large crowd 3500 - 4000 at least.

[Dalymountrower]

[QUOTE=nigel-harps1954;1862406]Dundalk v Cork - 3,528

How many attended?

[The Donie Forde]

Not always the most accurate of sources, but the Irish Star had 2,800 for Rovers v Wexford. Any over / under estimate would end if Rovers went back to releasing official figures, I think they are available but they seem to be difficult to get from the club?

One thing to note on all attendances, a reminder on how they are broken down, this is common with all clubs in UK and I know Dundalk follow the same method.

ST figures are always included on the figure released regardless if they have attended the match or so. So only those paying in or getting a ticket for any other reason will be counted on the night, then that figure is added to the total ST sales. Dundalk had 1,300 ST sold last year, I don't have the figure this year, its not far off that, so in our case any attendance figure will start at that point, then sales or tickets issued on the night added to it.

I have seen posts from fans saying 'this figure does not include ST' etc, I don't think that is correct and most clubs would have included the ST figure when releasing the official attendance.

For the sake of argument, let's just say you had a Monday night game on the worst evening weather-wise of the entire year and only 300 diehards showed up. You'll record the "attendance" as 1600, based on 1300 STs?

Attendance is meant to be those at the event, not those who might wish to be there.

[LK37oldskool]

Limerick v cobh 1590

[oriel]

[QUOTE=nigel-harps1954;1862406]Dundalk v Cork - 3,528

How many attended?

3,526! I knew two who were on early easter holidays.

[oriel]

For the sake of argument, let's just say you had a Monday night game on the worst evening weather-wise of the entire year and only 300 diehards showed up. You'll record the "attendance" as 1600, based on 1300 STs?

Attendance is meant to be those at the event, not those who might wish to be there.

It would be very unlikely that the majority of those who would have pre paid for a ticket (ST) would not attend, maybe 5%, so having sold over 1,000 ST the smallest crowd will be around 1,600-2k, if it was the case for a poor weather and mon night for eg.

I'd personally count all who attend so I get your point.

[Charlie Darwin]

It would be very unlikely that the majority of those who would have pre paid for a ticket (ST) would not attend, maybe 5%.
Even for a Tuesday night rescheduled game in bad weather against UCD with Champions League on TV (hypothetically)? Happened to us a couple of years ago - we have ~1,000 season ticket holders but there was barely 100 there that day.

As somebody mentioned earlier I think, the rugby teams are always at this. Munster have 10,000-odd season ticket holders but half their matches don't even hit 6,000 and they're not all ST holders, yet they'll still report 15,000 or whatever at the game.

[Comic Book Guy]

Limerick v cobh 1590

Great crowd, first time there since I was a nipper, pity I witnessed a horror show by us, that said they should give Limerick the trophy now, they were excellent, they will have this wrapped up by July at the latest the way the played.

[bluewhitearmy]

Great crowd, first time there since I was a nipper, pity I witnessed a horror show by us, that said they should give Limerick the trophy now, they were excellent, they will have this wrapped up by July at the latest the way the played.

Out of interest what did you make of the ground.

[Comic Book Guy]

Out of interest what did you make of the ground.

It has the potential to be one of the best, plenty of room for development. Obviously not having a track around it helps but aside from our 'display' a good experience.

[joey B]

2238 At Sligo v Harps

[Sam_Heggy]

2238 At Sligo v Harps

What does the away end in the showgrounds hold? Would have guessed about 400 Harps fans there.

[red bellied]

What does the away end in the showgrounds hold? Would have guessed about 400 Harps fans there.

Away section holds 330 seats plus standing area around side and behind goals, not far off the 400 mark.

[outspoken]

I'd say about 350 people in CCS last night. Dark days.

[Olander]

I'd say about 350 people in CCS last night. Dark days.
Extratime has an estimate of 700?

[joey B]

I'd say about 350 people in CCS last night. Dark days.

Genuine question how do ye survive on crowds like that?

[outspoken]

Extratime has an estimate of 700?

Was 700 at the pats game and 150 of that was away fans. No way was it anywhere near that. Bray only brought about 10.

[outspoken]

Genuine question how do ye survive on crowds like that?

A loyal chairman and a very generous backer. If one or both were to go away in the morning, we would be dead.