LOI Attendances 2016

[Longfordian]

366 at our game as per the Longford Leader. Thought there would be a bigger Derry crowd than there was but no surprise about ours.

[Jofspring]

255?

Or 1255?

Must be 255. I thought closer to 500 myself. Just felt it's hard to know in such a big stand .

[nigel-harps1954]

Did you get an official crowd for Waterford v UCD? I haven't seen anything official but was at that game and reckon 250 max there. I wasn't at yesterdays game and seems to be hard to get figures for crowds from club in recent weeks.

Nothing official from Waterford unfortunately. Usually handy enough getting official figures from there.

Thanks for the help folks, coming across these figures gets very difficult at the end of the season.

[ToberonaTornado]

4136 Oriel tonight if i remember correctly?

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps v Pats - 732

Fair play to around 10-15 Pats fans for making the trip.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Weekend figures. If anyone is able to correct estimates that'd be helpful.

Bohs v Rovers - 3,500 est
Dundalk v Sligo - 2,683
Limerick v Drogheda - 1,365
Cobh v Cabinteely - 760
Galway v Cork - 1,002
Harps v Bray - 745
St Pat's v Wexford - 600 est
UCD v Shelbourne - 500 est
Longford v Derry - 366
Waterford v Athlone - 250 est

Looking at MNS there must have been 500 people on the Camac side if that's true.

507 when we played them there a few weeks ago and certainly seemed a lot less against Wexford.

[pineapple stu]

Must be 255. I thought closer to 500 myself. Just felt it's hard to know in such a big stand .
Fair enough. That was a home game, yeah? Just a huge drop off compared to pretty much all your other crowds.

[oriel]

Correct Toberona, 4,136 was the crowd reported for Dundalk v Cork last night.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

1,283 in The Showgrounds

[patrickccfc]

2,023 at the cross in ridiculous conditions

[White Horse]

2,023 at the cross in ridiculous conditions

Good turnout, all things considered.

[patrickccfc]

Good turnout, all things considered.

Yeah didn't think would get that much. It was pelting down and was absolutely baltic. There's always one mad child with an ice lollie though

[oldyouth]

Yeah didn't think would get that much. It was pelting down and was absolutely baltic. There's always one mad child with an ice lollie though

If it was anything like in Wexford, I sympathise. Never watched a game in worse weather. I would put at least half the goals directly down to conditions.

[disgruntled]

If it was anything like in Wexford, I sympathise. Never watched a game in worse weather. I would put at least half the goals directly down to conditions.

It must have been some game though ;)

[dublinwanderer]

I would say about 1100 in Bray for the Pats game, the tent (holds 1000) was just about full plus 100 or so behind goal and over in uncovered stand. Not bad considering the rain!

[redarmyfaction]

actually the board had a key role in the demise of Section O to a shell.

What would be the remaining strength of Section O ATM?

[Battery Rover]

Athlone Town vs Cobh Ramblers Official Attendance 205

[outspoken]

What would be the remaining strength of Section O ATM?

Less than 10.

[MeathDrog]

I'd guess around 1,500 at Drogheda V UCD. First time in a few years there was a queue to get in.

[Comic Book Guy]

Athlone Town vs Cobh Ramblers Official Attendance 205

I reckon about 100 to 120 from Cobh, we should have been 3 or 4 up in the first 20 minutes but the first goal calmed the nerves. Didn't play well in the second half and Athlone had a few chances but deserved the win in the end.
Sad to see Athlone in this predicament; where we were ourselves two years ago. Supporters took our club over and it's been on an upward curve since, so if we can do it then Athlone can too.

[pineapple stu]

I'd guess around 1,500 at Drogheda V UCD. First time in a few years there was a queue to get in.
Wouldn't have put it quite that high myself, though I've certainly seen lower crowds there. Maybe 1000? You'd know the ground better than me, but the main stand looked maybe a bit more than half-full - fairly crowded in the middle, but a fair few gaps at either end.

Extratime estimates 850, for what that's worth.

[MeathDrog]

Wouldn't have put it quite that high myself, though I've certainly seen lower crowds there. Maybe 1000? You'd know the ground better than me, but the main stand looked maybe a bit more than half-full - fairly crowded in the middle, but a fair few gaps at either end.

Extratime estimates 850, for what that's worth.

Few online estimate around 1,300 which I'd say is right now looking back. Certainly more than 1,000.

[oriel]

Decent turn out that for Drogs, shows there is an appetite for football in the town.

Has the FD play off system changed this year, was it not usually 2nd v 3rd, one off game with 2nd place side at home, then h + a with the 11th in PD ?

I`m sure I saw it listed, FD play off, h+a also?

[nigel-harps1954]

Decent turn out that for Drogs, shows there is an appetite for football in the town.

Has the FD play off system changed this year, was it not usually 2nd v 3rd, one off game with 2nd place side at home, then h + a with the 11th in PD ?

I`m sure I saw it listed, FD play off, h+a also?

It was home and away last year too.

[pineapple stu]

It changes every couple of years. Because the FAI seem to think changing league format = improving the league

[ToberonaTornado]

Few online estimate around 1,300 which I'd say is right now looking back. Certainly more than 1,000.
Was at the match.Safe to say about 1300 there.Even wangled our way out and back in again for a pint at halftime :D

[Straightstory]

For all the doom and gloom about the first division, the top four (Limerick, Drogs, Cobh and UCD) are all pretty decent. Would think Cobh or Drogs would be at least as good as Wexford in the play-off.

[Lim till i die]

It's not so much that any of the first division clubs are decent, I think it's more that a large chunk of the premier is poison bad.

We won the division by 700 points and we got out of first gear for about three hours all season. And we've four or five in our starting eleven that I wouldn't have within a hundred miles of a decent premier squad.

I've great time for Stephen Henderson and Cobh he always seems to pull together a cheap team of enthusiastic youngfellas who will do exactly what they are told.

Ucd were our prettiest opponents all season arguably deserved a point from both their home games against us.

Drogs are drogs - big and ugly, that pitch is worth a goal a game to them aswell.

[pineapple stu]

I think the only positive thing to be said about the First Division is that I think it's slightly better than last year.

Limerick and Drogheda/Cobh will do better than Wexford/Harps in the Premier I think. I don't see Wexford winning the play-off, but could well be wrong there.

Cobh and Shels have basically swapped places compared to last year. Cabo, Athlone and Waterford are the same really.

I wouldn't be fearing either Longford or Wexford (if they do come down) next season.

[Charlie Darwin]

The overall league is a little better but Cobh and Drogs are worse than Harps and UCD last year.

[pineapple stu]

We're slightly worse than last year I'd say - no real surprise having lost Benson and Watts.

I never really rated Harps from last year; thought they bullied their way out of the division. It's one way of playing of course, and they did get out of the division, but I don't think I'd agree they're better than Drogheda and Cobh.

[Charlie Darwin]

Do you think they could bully their way past the current Drogheda and Cobh teams? I'd say they would every time.

[pineapple stu]

Hard to tell. Bullying can work against a younger team like UCD. I think Cobh and Drogheda would be better prepared for it, to be honest.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'd say both Cobh and Drogheda are younger teams than UCD, to be honest.

[pineapple stu]

Wouldn't have thought so? (OK; take out Jason Byrne...)

I know our average age last year was 21. Seán Thornton is playing for Drogheda; he has more experience than our 2015 team put together.

Anyways, it's an impossible argument really. I think we're in agreement that the FD is slightly better than last year, which isn't saying a huge amount.

[bluewhitearmy]

1087 at Drogs game according to their Twitter.

[MeathDrog]

1087 at Drogs game according to their Twitter.
Says it all that just over 1,000 has the place looking packed to the naked eye, such is our poor crowds over the last few years.

[nigel-harps1954]

Hard to tell. Bullying can work against a younger team like UCD. I think Cobh and Drogheda would be better prepared for it, to be honest.

Bullying...like the UCD under-19 manager bullies young opposition lads after a game?

For what it's worth, Harps are a million miles better this year than we were last year, and we've still struggled at times this year. I'd say we'd comfortably dispose of both Cobh and Drogheda.

There's nothing to suggest either Drogheda or Cobh would do better than Harps or Wexford other than the opinion of a UCD fan who just saw their side beaten to the play-off by both.

[pineapple stu]

Bullying...like the UCD under-19 manager bullies young opposition lads after a game?
Whut?


For what it's worth, Harps are a million miles better this year than we were last year, and we've still struggled at times this year. I'd say we'd comfortably dispose of both Cobh and Drogheda.

There's nothing to suggest either Drogheda or Cobh would do better than Harps or Wexford other than the opinion of a UCD fan who just saw their side beaten to the play-off by both.
There's nothing to suggest ye'd comfortably dispose of Cobh and Drogheda other than yadda yadda yadda.

Of course this is opinion.

That said, the amount of times you've refused to see Harps' physical play and commented with bafflement on the curious amount of yellows ye've received may indicate a slight disconnect with the reality of what's happening on the pitch. Harps are a very very physical side, hence the "bullying" comment.

[MeathDrog]

Whut?


There's nothing to suggest ye'd comfortably dispose of Cobh and Drogheda other than yadda yadda yadda.

Of course this is opinion.

That said, the amount of times you've refused to see Harps' physical play and commented with bafflement on the curious amount of yellows ye've received may indicate a slight disconnect with the reality of what's happening on the pitch. Harps are a very very physical side, hence the "bullying" comment.
That bit made me laugh. Harps couldn't comfortably dispose of anyone.

[pineapple stu]

Maybe a bit harsh. A non-league team surely?

Say, Crumlin?

Oh, wait...

[eitoof]

369 at Pats v Cork last night.

[eitoof]

Longford v Dundalk 495

[outspoken]

Longford v Dundalk 495

450 of that being away fans

[PartySaint]

450 of that being away fans

I wish Cork brought 450 :(

[Mr A]

Harps can be physical but then so can most teams on their day. We outplayed UCD on a number of occasions last year despite being dismissed as wrestlers. But the longer people write us off as completely one dimensional the better in my view, long may it continue.

[El-Pietro]

I wish Cork brought 450 :(
TO be fair. We lost the league last week, we've had a lot of away games lately, and Longford is a lot closer to Dublin/Dundalk than Dublin is to Cork. We brought a good number to Dundalk last Tuesday, after bring a very large crowd to Inchicore in the cup semi. We were never going to bring a similar number for the second time in about 3 weeks.

[ForzaForth]

346 at Wexford Youths v Galway.

[nr637]

The FAI have to accept that only less league games will help increase attendances on average against the current system. There are 12 clubs in the Premier League and during the course of a season (from March to October) each club plays the others twice (a double round-robin system), once at home and once away, for a total of 22 games. Teams receive three points for a win and one point for a draw. The fact is that most of our teams are semi-professional and are unable to play 33 league games plus FAI & League Cup competitions and further European games for certain clubs.

The current season has approximately 35 weekends and if properly structure, advertised and promoted, all league and various cup games could be played as a priority on weekend days which suits the fans.
Midweek should only be used in cases of replays and European fixtures.
If a 22 league format was the norm, all games could then be played on weekend dates over the course of the season, which is the basis of most Scandinavian league formats and where we should be looking at as a model to follow.
All aspects of promotion and fixtures should be structured to maximise the best date and time for clubs that avoids other competition, to help gain the most of attendances even if you are only considering an extra few 100 at a game. You have to start a system that involves the club and take each set of fixtures and arrange them that has every aspects that can be considered to put the game on at a date and time that can attract or suits the public.

The fact is we are not a professional sport and cannot compete with the huge professional sports and media businesses.

Until we prioritise this structure things will just limp on.

[TonyD]

TO be fair. We lost the league last week, we've had a lot of away games lately, and Longford is a lot closer to Dublin/Dundalk than Dublin is to Cork. We brought a good number to Dundalk last Tuesday, after bring a very large crowd to Inchicore in the cup semi. We were never going to bring a similar number for the second time in about 3 weeks.

I think the comment was tongue in cheek. Nobody would have expected Cork to bring a large crowd to Dublin on a Monday night in the circumstances. Even if you had won the league was probably beyond you. It was more a comment on our poor crowd I think. I didn't appreciate how bad it was, being in the middle of the main stand. The TV pictures showed it up badly. I think the majority of Pats fans have just given up on the season. Pity, as it was probably our best performance of the season. More of that attitude is needed next year.