League of Ireland in Europe 2015

[Dunny]

Is the choice of date between the 14th and 15th of July entirely the home club's? If so, by when do they have to finalise a decision?
Yes i believe so and as far as i know they have Seven days from the draw date to confirm.So they can arse around until then if they want.
I'm not going btw but i can see and feel that there is a lot of frustration out there from a lot of our fans who need to know what is happening because of work/time-off and hotel/plane bookings etc.

[Charlie Darwin]

I wonder if any of our clubs get involved in that sort of nonsense. It's probably a good idea from a ruthlessly competitive point of view, but less so from a not being a load of complete bellends point of view.

[White Horse]

I wonder if any of our clubs get involved in that sort of nonsense. It's probably a good idea from a ruthlessly competitive point of view, but less so from a not being a load of complete bellends point of view.

I wonder what other tricks await us in Belarus. Though, I doubt they will be cynical enough to only water one half of their pitch at half time.

[pineapple stu]

I wonder what other tricks await us in Belarus.
Bet there's no Tayto's on sale in the shop

[Yossarian]

Bet there's no Tayto's on sale in the shop

Ah jeez, not sure if I'll go now.

[Acornvilla]

No Tayto, no party.

Think I'll swing by the bowl for the UCD home match.

[pineapple stu]

I think our shop sells King.

I suspect it explains our low crowds.

[DannyInvincible]

The dates for Dundalk's games have been confirmed: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2015/06/26/13071082/dundalk-confirm-champions-league-dates-with-bate


Dundalk have confirmed the dates of their Uefa Champions League second qualifying round clash against BATE Borisov.

The League of Ireland Premier Division champions will travel to Belarus for the first leg on Wednesday, July 15, before contesting the second leg at Oriel Park on Wednesday, July 22.

Dundalk have also confirmed that they are running a charter flight (http://www.dundalkfc.com/1st-leg-details-dfc-v-fc-bate/) to the away leg and have invited supporters interested in the charter to contact the club.

[Yossarian]

The dates for Dundalk's games have been confirmed: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2015/06/26/13071082/dundalk-confirm-champions-league-dates-with-bate

Charter is already full. Not sure how big a charter plane they have organised.

[White Horse]

Charter is already full. Not sure how big a charter plane they have organised.

I was told it was a 100 seater.

Given that the match is on Wednesday, quite a few fans are flying to Vilnius on Tuesday and coming back on the Thursday flight.

[Louth4sam]

I was told it was a 100 seater.

Given that the match is on Wednesday, quite a few fans are flying to Vilnius on Tuesday and coming back on the Thursday flight.

Group of us doing Sunday to Thursday. There will be plenty of sore heads on that Thursday flight back from Vilnius.

[ger121]

I think our shop sells King.

I suspect it explains our low crowds.

Well they are for the finer palate due to their subtle flavours compared to Tayto.

[pineapple stu]

F91 let nine players go, and sign 6. Two of the guys let go scored 23 goals between them last season, to end as top scorer and second top scorer. They also have a new manager. Can't hurt our chances. Though they have signed the Luxembourg league's top scorer, a guy called Ibrahimovic.

[mcgonigle]

F91 let nine players go, and sign 6. Two of the guys let go scored 23 goals between them last season, to end as top scorer and second top scorer. They also have a new manager. Can't hurt our chances. Though they have signed the Luxembourg league's top scorer, a guy called Ibrahimovic.

Played against us last season and didn't do much but you could tell he could be dangerous if given enough space and time.

[pineapple stu]

That's encouraging. Our defence is reasonably experienced - in that three of them played in the Premier - so maybe we can do the same again.

I presume when it comes down to it, the better Luxembourg sides are equivalent to mid-table Premier Division sides? Maybe edging more towards top half than bottom half?

Progres (Rovers' opponents) beat F91 3-1 in a friendly last night.

[Nesta99]

The heat seemed factor the first trip to Lux 2010 and it was the home leg that saw us through as we were hanging on a bit in the end really under Foster. Wasnt that much between the sides and then we were well beaten by Levski. There is a heatwave to hit Europe mainland so should be factored in imo. Last year Esch offered little and ye always had the feeling that we could shift up a gear if needed. It was all to do with our improvement rather than the Lux sides being too different in standards. I think along the lines of Bohs this season - decent and will cause problems but can be a bit brittle. Esch lost all confidence when they conceded.

[pineapple stu]

Looking like 32-33 degrees when Rovers play alright. Then a couple of sites have the heatwave to break on the Monday before we play - good bit of rain and a drop of a few degrees in temp. 6pm kick off won't help us; should keep that bit warmer.

And obviously long-term forecasts aren't the most reliable, so that could easily all change.

[legendz]

Tough-ish draw from Dundalk. I hope their league form carries through into their ties against Bate.

Of Cork, Shamrock and Pat's, who has the best chance of making Q3?

[The Donie Forde]

Tough-ish draw from Dundalk. I hope their league form carries through into their ties against Bate.

Of Cork, Shamrock and Pat's, who has the best chance of making Q3?

Shamrock, unquestionably.

[forza]

Looking like 32-33 degrees when Rovers play alright. Then a couple of sites have the heatwave to break on the Monday before we play - good bit of rain and a drop of a few degrees in temp. 6pm kick off won't help us; should keep that bit warmer.

And obviously long-term forecasts aren't the most reliable, so that could easily all change.

Out of interest, do you have any idea how are tickets selling for the game? What's the likely hood of picking one up on the night?

I'm very tempted to pop over but living and working where I do, it's a tad awkward to go buy in advance.

[pineapple stu]

For our home game? No idea. Capacity's limited to the 1500 seats, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't get a ticket on the day.

[White Horse]

A warning from the club that counterfeit tickets for the Champions League home game are being sold in North East.

http://www.dundalkfc.com/beware-counterfeit-euro-tickets/

[Nesta99]

A warning from the club that counterfeit tickets for the Champions League home game are being sold in North East.

http://www.dundalkfc.com/beware-counterfeit-euro-tickets/


People should know that they havent been released for sale yet! After tomorrow then care must be taken as the first batch will be in fans hands.

[patrickccfc]

Our opponents KR warmed up with a 1-0 win tonight.. Pats opposition Skonto Riga had a 1-1 draw while BATE also had a 1-0 win

[Dunny]

Our opponents KR warmed up with a 1-0 win tonight.. Pats opposition Skonto Riga had a 1-1 draw while BATE also had a 1-0 win
SK was over to watch BATE.

[Charlie Darwin]

SK was over to watch BATE.
Shame, sounds like he missed a cracker in Cobh.

[Nesta99]

Shame, sounds like he missed a cracker in Cobh.

Blonde or Brunette?

[El-Pietro]

F91 let nine players go, and sign 6. Two of the guys let go scored 23 goals between them last season, to end as top scorer and second top scorer. They also have a new manager. Can't hurt our chances. Though they have signed the Luxembourg league's top scorer, a guy called Ibrahimovic.

I may be wrong, but I don't think any of those new players can be registered in time for the first round games.

[pineapple stu]

That'd be a bit mad if true.

So they've just let their top two scorers go (including the second top scorer in the whole league) without being able to replace them for this?

I know there's more to the season than the Europa League, but still, seems a bit much that you wouldn't be able to get new signings through to play.

Not complaining at all if it turns out to be true, mind!

[El-Pietro]

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/Regulations/02/23/69/59/2236959_DOWNLOAD.pdf



41.01
In order to be eligible to participate in the UEFA club competitions, players must be registered with UEFA within the requested deadlines to play for a club and fulfil all the conditions set out in the following provisions. Only eligible players can serve pending suspensions.
41.02
Players must be duly registered with the association concerned in accordance with the association’s own rules and those of FIFA, notably the
FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.

....

42.01
Each club is responsible for submitting an A list of players (List A) and a B list of players (List B), duly signed, to its association for verification, validation, signature and forwarding to UEFA. These lists must include the name, date of birth, shirt number and name, nationality and national registration date of all players to be fielded in the UEFA club competition in question, as well as the surname and first name of the head coach. In addition, the lists must include the confirmation by the club’s doctor that all players have undergone the requested medical examination; the club’s doctor is solely responsible for ensuring that the requested players’ medical examination has been duly performed.

....

42.07
List A has to be submitted by the following fixed deadlines:
a. 22 June 2015 (24.00CET) for all matches in the first qualifying round;
b. 10 July 2015 (24.00CET) for all matches in the second qualifying round;
c. 24 July 2015 (24.00CET) for all matches in the third qualifying round;
d. 10 August 2015 (24.00CET) for all matches in the play-offs;
e.
1 September 2015 (24.00CET) for all further matches from the first match in the group stage up to and including the final


42.08
For the three qualifying rounds and the play-offs, a club may register a maximum of one new eligible player on List A after the above-mentioned deadlines, provided the quota of locally trained players is respected. Such registration must be completed by 24.00CET on the day before the relevant first-leg match and the club’s association must confirm in writing that the new player is eligible to play at domestic level at this time.


So this is my understanding, and I appreciate that there may be some nuances that I'm missing. New players can't be registered with your association until the 1st of July meaning any new signings wouldn't be eligible for the first round as they could not have been registered. Section 42.08 does allow for an exception to this rule meaning they could register Ibrahimovic or another of their new signings but not all 6.

Thats a huge advantage to an in season team drawing an out of season side. How many players do the two Lux sides have registered that were on their books last season? This could actually be the difference for UCD. I'm not suggesting they will get through, but a home win or draw might be possible.

[pineapple stu]

Weird. That seems really unfair on F91 and other teams in a similar position. I don't know if the amount of transfers they just put through (6 in, 9 out) is a lot, but if they've just done themselves out of 8 players (even allowing that they can sign 1) including one of their top scorers (again assuming Ibrahimovic replaces one of the guys gone), that's a big boost for us.

[Nesta99]

Hopefully it is a case of underestimating UCD! Did F91 have anyone over to the Bowl scouting?

[pineapple stu]

I wish they had seeing as we were playing in Cobh!

Where they had two guys scouting.

But as I said on the attendances thread (half joking, half serious), not sure how much they'll have learnt watching us play 80 minutes with 10 men.

[Nesta99]

Well from a 'motivation' point of view the advantage is with UCD, I really hope yiz get a solid result in in the 1st leg as if they get a scare it might be a tough time in the second game! Nothing worse than a hanging in there game! Maybe i'm underestimating UCD without seem them play.

[pineapple stu]

Yeah, it's hard to really judge where we're at. I think we're better than last year (wouldn't be hard!) and maybe we'd be mid-table Premier standard now that the team is getting settled and players are gaining confidence. 12 games unbeaten (ignoring the Cup...) and a top scorer who's on 10 half-way through the season can't hurt. Of course, there's a big gap between mid-table and even fifth in the league, and so maybe that won't be good enough. And I've no idea how good F91 are, other than that I know no Luxembourg side has ever knocked a LoI side out of Europe (Dundalk's draw there a couple of years back was the first time a LoI side failed to beat a Luxembourg side)

I'm kind of mixed between being quietly confident and fairly sure we'll get dumped out handy enough.

[El-Pietro]

I'm kind of mixed between being quietly confident and fairly sure we'll get dumped out handy enough.

Thats exactly how I feel about a potential second round game against Rosenborg for City, or had we drawn an AIK or West Ham in the first round.

As for KR I think we're a 50-50 shot at getting through,

[patrickccfc]

SK was over to watch BATE.

I hope he didn't forget his jumper in a Belarusian cafe

[patrickccfc]

As for KR I think we're a 50-50 shot at getting through,

It's imperative for our chances, I think, that we under no circumstances concede an away goal. I think a 2-0 lead is needed going over there and hope a haka-esque capitulation doesn't transpire. I'm quietly confident though.

[Louth4sam]

(Dundalk's draw there a couple of years back was the first time a LoI side failed to beat a Luxembourg side)



Dundalk were in freefall at the time. We went from top and cruising to finishing 6th. Lost the entire spine of our team in one go and the replacements weren't up to scratch. Any Irish side on any kind of form should be too much for a team from Luxembourg. I'd be confident of UCD going through.

[MeathDrog]

Pats away game against Skonto Riga is on Setanta on Thursday.

[Real ale Madrid]

5.00 kick off - get home for that - watch, and straight to the Cross. Excellent.

[SkStu]

I think UCD have had a great draw and have a great chance to progress over the two legs.

If in doubt, just conjure up images of Thor Akureyri.

:(

[ger121]

I think UCD have had a great draw and have a great chance to progress over the two legs.

If in doubt, just conjure up images of Thor Akureyri.

:(
The least memorable part of that trip😕

[MeathDrog]

5.00 kick off - get home for that - watch, and straight to the Cross. Excellent.
I'll get to see the first half, I'll probably head to the UCD game then.

[TheBoss]

Weird. That seems really unfair on F91 and other teams in a similar position. I don't know if the amount of transfers they just put through (6 in, 9 out) is a lot, but if they've just done themselves out of 8 players (even allowing that they can sign 1) including one of their top scorers (again assuming Ibrahimovic replaces one of the guys gone), that's a big boost for us.

Here is the list of players that are registered to play v UCD:



NO
NAME
POS
NAT
DOB
AGE


1
Jonathan Joubert
GK
LUX
12/09/1979
35


2
Clayton Moreira
DF
LUX
24/02/1988
27


3
Romain Ney
DF
FRA
06/01/1992
23


4
Yann Matias Marques
DF
LUX
12/11/1996
18


5
Tom Schnell
DF
LUX
08/10/1985
29


7
Sanel Ibrahimovic
FW
BIH
24/11/1987
27


8
Raphaël De Sousa
MF
LUX
05/03/1993
22


9
Daniel Da Mota
FW
LUX
11/09/1985
29


11
Dylan Deligny
FW
FRA
05/08/1993
21


12
Sven Kalisa
MF
LUX
14/03/1997
18


13
Sofian Benzouien
FW
BEL
11/08/1986
28


14
Joël Pedro
MF
LUX
10/04/1992
23


15
Patrik Teixeira Pinto
FW
LUX
10/05/1996
19


16
Elvis Sousa
MF
LUX
23/03/1997
18


17
Julien Humbert
MF
FRA
23/06/1984
31


18
Michael Clepkens
GK
BEL
30/01/1986
29


22
Stélvio
MF
POR
24/01/1989
26


23
Max Kerschen
GK
LUX
19/02/1997
18


25
Kevin Nakache
MF
FRA
05/04/1989
26


26
Jerry Prempeh
DF
FRA
29/12/1988
26


27
Donovan Maury
DF
BEL
08/05/1981
34


29
Kevin Malget
DF
LUX
15/01/1991
24


30
Alexandre Lauriente
FW
FRA
19/11/1989
25


77
David Turpel
FW
LUX
19/10/1992
22


91
Gregory Adler
MF
LUX
27/04/1989
26

[Martinho II]

Pats away game against Skonto Riga is on Setanta on Thursday.

is that on setanta or setanta sports 1 do you know? have to set the sky + planner when I am away working in Dublin from tommorrow.

[IsMiseSean]

is that on setanta or setanta sports 1 do you know? have to set the sky + planner when I am away working in Dublin from tommorrow.

Setanta 1 from 4.45pm

[Martinho II]

5.00 kick off - get home for that - watch, and straight to the Cross. Excellent.

good thing you posted as I wasnt sure when the match was as I couldnt find the match on the planner. never thought of the earlier ko time! cheers!

[Martinho II]

Setanta 1 from 4.45pm

thanks!

[pineapple stu]

Here is the list of players that are registered to play v UCD:
Where'd you get that?!

Anyways, three of the six new signings are on it. A fourth is down on the F91 site as a junior, and then there's Bochet and Dikada, about whom I know nothing anyway and they may be juniors or useless or anything.