Robbie Brady (M Preston b.1992)

[SwanVsDalton]

Was reading Robbie Savage's column in The Mirror yesterday while waiting for a sandwich in a cafe (swear).

Had a little piece about how he was talking to Kevin Keegan and they both agreed Robbie Brady had it all and was the player to impress them most outside the Prem this year. Savage also said he was highly impressed by Jeff Hendrick.

[tetsujin1979]

It's online here: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/robbie-savage/Robbie-Savage-column-Everton-s-Ross-Barkley-Hull-s-Robbie-Brady-and-Derby-s-Jeff-Hendrick-are-the-brightest-talents-around-article799826.html

[Charlie Darwin]

Saw the extended highlights of Hull's 2-0 loss to West Ham on the Football League show. Despite the result, Hull created most of the chances and Brady was heavily involved, including one great pass through the defence that Fryatt should have scored from. I think he's going to get his chance at United even with Young and Nani ahead of him. Very promising - reminds me of the player McGeady should be in a lot of ways (but obviously he's not at the same level yet).

[the bear]

Saw the extended highlights of Hull's 2-0 loss to West Ham on the Football League show. Despite the result, Hull created most of the chances and Brady was heavily involved, including one great pass through the defence that Fryatt should have scored from. I think he's going to get his chance at United even with Young and Nani ahead of him. Very promising - reminds me of the player McGeady should be in a lot of ways (but obviously he's not at the same level yet).

seems to have better end product than mcgeady already, call him up next friendly

[Predator]

I rate Brady higher than Pilkington and think that the young lad deserves a chance before him.

[drummerboy]

Started on the bench for Hull on Saturday.

[gastric]

I rate Brady higher than Pilkington and think that the young lad deserves a chance before him.

I'm greedy, I would like both!

[Jaysus]

I rate Brady higher than Pilkington and think that the young lad deserves a chance before him.

Brady seems to be in poor form lately. Recently he was subbed twice around the hour mark and then got dropped in the last game.

[ifk101]

He was poor for the 25 minutes or so he played against West Ham. A number of over hit crosses (and corners), weak control of the ball and quite wayward with his passing. We'll put it down to a bad day at the office but he won't be getting a senior call-up any time soon based on Saturday's showing.

[Kingdom]

Was this the match at the weekend? If so then the highlights reel I saw must have been different to the live game you saw - I was very impressed.

[ifk101]

Was this the match at the weekend? If so then the highlights reel I saw must have been different to the live game you saw - I was very impressed.

It was the televised Championship game of the weekend where I live.

[tetsujin1979]

short interview in the Independent today: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/united-starlet-chasing-premier-league-break-to-enter-traprsquos-plans-2939792.html
most interesting part is that he could be going on loan to a Premier League club in the second half of the season, I thought the loan to Hull was a season long deal

[Bayern Munchies]

I actually played in the same Kennedy Cup as Robbie and even then you could tell how talented he was...he was a level or 3 above everybody else at that tournament and he seems to be highly rated at United. The loan deal to Hull has been fantastic for him too, and if he does get that loan move to a premiership club I hope he gets some gamne time and isn't just there to warm the bench, I wonder who it could be?

[tommy_c12000]

No.1 on my list would be Bolton. Owen Coyle has a great track record of taking talented youngsters on loan and developing them, look at Sturridge and Wilshere. Coyle seems to get on well with all the top prermier league managers and they seem to "trust" him with their most talented youngsters. If Ferguson was to cherry pick any club it would surely be Bolton, It's only down the road from Manchester also so it's smiles all round

[tetsujin1979]

I was thinking Everton would be ideal myself, their squad is razor thin, they've no money for new players, and made zero purchases in the summer so they will have to bring someone in and whoever that is will be guaranteed game time

[tommy_c12000]

I was thinking Everton would be ideal myself, their squad is razor thin, they've no money for new players, and made zero purchases in the summer so they will have to bring someone in and whoever that is will be guaranteed game time

Ya I'd agree. Everton could well be a likely destination as well. Their squad could deplete even further in January if Rodwell leaves. With no money, Moyes will be forced to try to bring in a couple of quality youngsters on loan

[Predator]

Everton already have a load of people who can or have played on the wing. He'd be a class above most of them, but I'm not sure if they even have the money to get him in.

[Bayern Munchies]

Wouldn't surprise me if he went to Wigan either tbh. But yeah Bolton under Coyle would be a great move but I think he would get most playing time at Wigan

[Charlie Darwin]

Ferugson tends to loan players to the same clubs, and particularly to the same managers, i.e. Pearson at Hull, Bruce at Sunderland, McCarthy at Wolves. Wigan was a new one with Cleverly, so I'd guess that's the destination, with Sunderland an unlikely alternative.

[drummerboy]

Brady has only being making the bench in the last couple of games for Hull. Not sure if he is ready for premiership yet.

[tommy_c12000]

Brady has only being making the bench in the last couple of games for Hull. Not sure if he is ready for premiership yet.

Haven't seen any of the Hull games recently but he still seems to be making all the fans starting XI:

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=297&fid=148&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115942248


(http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=297&fid=148&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115942248)The manager who brought him on loan left last week. Perhaps, caretaker boss Nicky Barmby doesn't fancy him or perhaps he feels that young Brady could do with a rest. I wouldn't read much into the fact that he hasn't started the last couple of games. At 19 he is still very young, a wee rest may well do him the world of good. Furthermore, I think this loan spell will stand to him and really hope that he secures a loan move to a reasonable premier league team in January to take his development to the next level

[Predator]

I'm almost sure the Hull manager said it was a mistake to drop him, too.

[SwanVsDalton]

Steve Bruce looks for Brady Aid. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2067402/Steve-Bruce-want-Robbie-Brady-Sunderland.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

[Olé Olé]

Steve Bruce looks for Brady Aid. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2067402/Steve-Bruce-want-Robbie-Brady-Sunderland.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Sunderland wouldn't be the most secure club for a 19 year-old like Brady to be joining, especially given the insecurity of Bruce's job; were he to be ousted during the course of the second half of the season, then Brady faces a new manager coming in who may not hold any relationship with Fergie.

But it's good leverage that he's being linked with Sunderland. I still think Bolton would be ideal. Although Holden and Lee Chung Yong can't be sidelined for much longer, increasing the competition for midfield places.

[Charlie Darwin]

Seems an odd target for Bruce seeing as he's loaded with midfielders but only has one proper striker. I did kinda predict this though...

[the bear]

came off the bench against southampton and got a straight red card for diving into a tackle

[The Fly]

Steve Bruce interested in taking Brady on loan (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2067402/Steve-Bruce-want-Robbie-Brady-Sunderland.html)

[tetsujin1979]

probably not going to happen now, Steve Bruce just sacked by Sunderland

[CraftyToePoke]

I wonder if he will end up following Pearson from Hull to Leicester, as for all Sven Gorans spending, he had no wide players of worth and Pearson has pointed to this publicly as an area he will strengthen in January.

[Charlie Darwin]

Well Bruce has left Sunderland so we can probably assume that avenue is closed.

[bwagner]

Met Rob in the airport at Leeds,hes suspended for a few games, sound lad, even after my mate hounded him to sign for Leeds,top lad i have to say . P.S Andy Keogh had a class game when he came on at Leeds, very decent preformance, Aidy White was solid enough to, But i was surprised at Keogh

[liamoo11]

just saw the tackle he was sent off for. I thought it might be a typical wingers studs up and fly in but to be fair it was a real strong side on tackle where he won the ball that did not deserve any card.

[drummerboy]

just saw the tackle he was sent off for. I thought it might be a typical wingers studs up and fly in but to be fair it was a real strong side on tackle where he won the ball that did not deserve any card.

Totally agree with above comment. Football is turning into a non contact sport, where the tackle is being outlawed. Shameful decision by Ref.

[Stuttgart88]

I love watching a proper tackle where one guy's foot steals the ball from his opponent's foot, ideally standing up.

A sliding tackle where the defenders "sweeps" the ball with the top of his foot is great to watch too.

A sliding tackle with studs up is the dangerous one.

There's always a grey area between a fair shoulder and a barge.

I haven't seen Brady's tackle, but I'm generally unsympathetic to "football's becoming a non-contact" sport claims because of who usually makes them. Duty of care is the key issue, but another is to restore the skill to tackling.

[drummerboy]

I have seen the tackle and ten years ago the tackle would have been allowed. At the very most he should have been penalised for an over robust tackle.

[Kingdom]

Philip Reid mentioned Brady in Saturday's Irish Times, saying that he could be a real possible bolter come next June for Trappatoni's squad, as there is a possibility he'll get game time with United in the new year.

Edit. here's the piece
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/1203/1224308524111.html

[Charlie Darwin]

I'm not usually sympathetic to people who get sent off for heavy challenges but this does look a bit harsh. At the same time, I read in a couple of places that a red card's been coming for him. He's definitely a full-blooded tackler.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX_8vjQvWqU

[Serb]

I'm not usually sympathetic to people who get sent off for heavy challenges but this does look a bit harsh. At the same time, I read in a couple of places that a red card's been coming for him. He's definitely a full-blooded tackler.

What the hell? That tackle was never a straight red card. It must have looked a lot worse from the angle the referee was looking at it.

[Stuttgart88]

Hmm, I'll sit on the fence on that one.

He clearly won the ball but it was a lunge and those lunges can go wrong. His follow through came right through the guy. On this instance I'd have given a foul on the basis that he owes a duty of care which was not shown, but given a stern warning rather than a card. There are degrees of recklessnes and I think the fact that it was side-on and the ball was well ahead of the Southampton player made it less reckless than, say, the Hutton tackle.

I think referees are right to focus on overly aggressive tackles though. The art of actually tackling properly is going out of the game.

[SwanVsDalton]

Hmm, I'll sit on the fence on that one.

He clearly won the ball but it was a lunge and those lunges can go wrong. His follow through came right through the guy. On this instance I'd have given a foul on the basis that he owes a duty of care which was not shown, but given a stern warning rather than a card. There are degrees of recklessnes and I think the fact that it was side-on and the ball was well ahead of the Southampton player made it less reckless than, say, the Hutton tackle.

I think referees are right to focus on overly aggressive tackles though. The art of actually tackling properly is going out of the game.

I think that's fair enough but in this instance I'd hate to see tackles like that stamped out (pardon the pun) - the ball was there to be played and Brady went in for it 100%. Took the man on the way through, so a foul but no way was it a sending off. The signal this sends out is 'don't tackle' when the message should be 'tackle properly'.

[French Toasht]

Not a red card. The Southampton player's histrionics gets him sent off.

[geysir]

I think it was an almost fair lunge for the ball. The ball was there for a fraction of time in no man's land and Brady went for it.

No way were Brady's studs going to make contact with the other player. You might even make a case for the other player jumping in, in such a way to protect the ball that he put himself in danger. But I might be biased. This Brady lad looks good.

Did you see the ticker tape 'Reid sent off for Forest' :)

[John83]

I agree - that's a very harsh sending off.

[tricky_colour]

Should never have been sent off, he had every right to go for the ball, if anything the other
player should have been booked for obstruction, he makes no attempt to play the ball
and he clearly tries to obstruct Brady from getting to the ball.

The game has gone crazy to the extent to can't make a legitimate tackle.

It is ridiculous, Brady clearly goes to play the ball and it is equally clear that
the other guy doesn't attempt to play the ball and it is clear his
only intention was to body check Brady to obstruct him!!
Look where he puts his foot, no attempt to play the ball just to block Brady.

[Charlie Darwin]

The Southampton player was fully entitled to shield the ball with his body. The issue is Brady's tackle and whether it was reckless and likely to cause injury. I think the fact he brought his second leg around to swipe the player from behind was probably enough to justify a red card. Hull haven't appealed, in any case.

[SwanVsDalton]

I think the fact he brought his second leg around to swipe the player from behind was probably enough to justify a red card. Hull haven't appealed, in any case.

He didn't swipe his leg. He comes straight through the tackle, one leg leading, the other leg coming behind it pretty much in parallel with the first. The nature of the challenge and the body position of the player he's tackling makes it look like a swiping motion, but there's definitely no intentional movement from Brady. It's a forceful if relatively fair attempt to play the ball imo.

[tricky_colour]

The Southampton player was fully entitled to shield the ball with his body. The issue is Brady's tackle and whether it was reckless and likely to cause injury. I think the fact he brought his second leg around to swipe the player from behind was probably enough to justify a red card. Hull haven't appealed, in any case.

I don't think he is entitled to shield the ball like that, I see that as obstruction, and look where he stamps his foot, he
could have broke Brady's leg. The rules are all wrong, you cannot tackle anymore you can pick up the ball and walk it
into the goal and it anyone tackles you they are sent off!!
How can it be dangerous when he plays the ball?

Also how is Brady's lunge any different to that of the other guy?
The only difference I can see is that Brady plays the ball and the other guy does not!!!

I don't think he brings his second leg round either, his second leg just happens to be connected to
the rest of his body and thus tends to follow it around automatically.

Makes no sense!!!

[Charlie Darwin]

What? He went to shield the ball because normally Brady would attempt to go shoulder to shoulder. The tackle was completely unnecessary. Maybe he doesn't swing the leg around but the way he goes in he stills takes the defender's legs out from under him.

[geysir]

Hull haven't appealed, in any case.Because Hull are not appealing, does not mean they think it was straight red card offense. Once a ref decides it was a straight red card, then that becomes the truth by default.

[SwanVsDalton]

Maybe he doesn't swing the leg around but the way he goes in he stills takes the defender's legs out from under him.

I actually think, if anything, that makes it a fairer attempt. From looking at it the ball is there to be played but the angle of the Southampton player means, to play it, a tackler would have to come 'round the corner', at an angle. Brady could've went straight through the guy, but instead, he tries to play the ball first by swinging his right leg round to play it.

It doesn't quite come off for him - it's a foul for me - but it's still a tough challenge, in the spirit of the game. Zero malice in it. Over-exuberant maybe, full-blooded sure, but definitely not a red. I think he's very unlucky.