The Cricket Thread

[Spudulika]

Very quiet on the bandwaggon today. I would love to watch the full match, but definitely have to go to work today, as in the office. Saffies really sticking it to us. Need a wicket in a hurry!

[ForzaForth]

259-2 after 38.4. O'Brien with the wicket.

[ForzaForth]

Ireland need 412. Spinners did reasonably well but too easy to hit O'Brien and Sorensen.

[swinfordfc]

Ireland are very poor with the bowling and now the batting - going to get a hammering i think 26-3 in reply to 412!

[swinfordfc]

This beating today will cost Ireland in the long run ..... the run rate will destroy them ..... its a great pitch to bat and they just throwing away their wickets!

[nigel-harps1954]

Lifted things slightly somewhat, but still nowhere near the races. Need a big next 10-15 overs to get the run rate up. Never reaching the 400, but even getting up anywhere around 300 would be a nice enough return against a very good SA side.

[swinfordfc]

150-6 after 30 overs ..... If they get to 250, they will do well!

[Real ale Madrid]

They would have been better off being all out for 80 after 10 overs, than this.

This is pointless - why aren't they swinging at everything ?

[BonnieShels]

172/8

Not so bad when you consider what it was like earlier on.
Never really got into our stride and the 2 dropped catches cost us dearly.

Not only that they ended up as 2 centuries but probably killed our confidence.

[nigel-harps1954]

Oh well...would have hoped for a more aggressive tactic as pointed out, but still, 210 against South Africa isn't bad all considering.

[BonnieShels]

210 is remarkable considering how awful our opening 5 were.

[swinfordfc]

Yes 210 is good considering what happen earlier - the game on Sunday morning is huge now! - have to win it

[BonnieShels]

We're better than Zim. We should beat them. COYBIG.

[bennocelt]

We're better than Zim. We should beat them. COYBIG.

Yeah agreed, will be tight though in the end with all the run rates etc. Im sure South Africa will also hammer Pakistan as well, but god knows what India will do to us.....

[BonnieShels]

I'm hoping the India game is moot by the time we get there. HOPE against hope.

[mypost]

They would have been better off being all out for 80 after 10 overs, than this.

This is pointless - why aren't they swinging at everything ?

No it wouldn't. The net run rate would have taken a hammering. Indeed it did, just not as bad as it could have been. Pakistan's routine win over the Abu Dhabis meant we dropped to fifth with a game in hand.

Saturday is a huge day in the group, with SA playing Pakistan, and us against Zimbabwe in the later game. We will still have a game in hand on all the above after it, but we still need to win.

[Real ale Madrid]

No it wouldn't. The net run rate would have taken a hammering. Indeed it did, just not as bad as it could have been. Pakistan's routine win over the Abu Dhabis meant we dropped to fifth with a game in hand.


Yeah I think I mistook the NRR as being the actual RR - but say if we were all out for 80 after 10 overs isn't our RR 8.00 as opposed to say 200 after 45 overs - making it 4.44 ??

[passinginterest]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_run_rate

If the team is bowled out it's the total divided by 50 to calculate the run rate so in your scenario it's 80/50 = 1.6 or 200/50 = 4.0 so batting for longer is better even if the scores are not that high.

I think.

[Real ale Madrid]

I think the mistake I was making was - I was taking our NRR for the SA game and adding it to what was already there - instead of calculating it over the whole tournament. Which makes more sense!

Goal difference for cricket me @rse!

[swinfordfc]

The NRR will make no difference as long as we beat Zimb. on Saturday morning!

[swinfordfc]

Scotland could not do England a favour this morning ..... England really up against it now ..... they have to win on Monday morning or they going home! :)

[Real ale Madrid]

The NRR will make no difference as long as we beat Zimb. on Saturday morning!

If we beat Zim and lose to Pak - it does come down to NRR between ourselves / Pak / and WI - only 2 out of 3 to go through.

[mypost]

I think the mistake I was making was - I was taking our NRR for the SA game and adding it to what was already there - instead of calculating it over the whole tournament. Which makes more sense!

Goal difference for cricket me @rse!

It is extremely complicated, but it's calculated by the amount of runs scored so far and the overs faced, against the amount conceded and the overs bowled.

So far we've played 145.1 Overs and bowled 150. We've scored 796 runs and conceded almost a thousand. You then divide the runs scored against the Overs played.

796/145.1 = 5.48
993/150.0 = 6.61

So 5.48-6.61 =

-1.13 NRR after 3 games.

[Wolfman]

I might be on my own but I shout for England in the cricket when I'm not shouting for Ireland - especially with one of our own as captain - christ the abuse from the Brit media is, as per usual, disgusting - I hope he sticks away 100 tomorrow and England win.
Why??

[Real ale Madrid]

Why??

I think I explained why - why shouldn't I anyway. I love England.

Come on England!

[swinfordfc]

This is good for Ireland ..... West Indies are 104-7 off 29 overs at present ...... Hoping India can bowled them out for around 150!

[Crosby87]

Should I bet on Zimbabwe or Eire? Which team will have more black people?

[swinfordfc]

Zim 94-4 in reply ..... this is not over ..... Ireland need to get Taylor out asap!

[swinfordfc]

I think Ireland are going to lose this :(

[Wolfman]

World record total being chased!
Bad if they lose.

[osarusan]

Can't understand how O Brien bowled the 49th over rather than McBrine.

[osarusan]

Jesus what an ending!

[bennocelt]

That was close, wow. Feel a bit for Zimbabwe, they kind of were very unlucky.

(edit: also had a stinker with the betting, won with SA getting the most 6's but had them to win when they were evens, cashed out early to limit the loss, also cashed out when had Ireland backed!!! Damn it, lucky to get out alive with 20 quid loss)

[swinfordfc]

O'Brien nearly cost us the match with the 49th over bowling!

What a finish ..... my god! Cusack was cool - fair play to him! First time we won 3 matches in a world cup and still not made the q finals! Roll on to India ..... i hope it rains :)

[osarusan]

Roll on to India ..... i hope it rains :)

Exactly what I was thinking!

[Stuttgart88]

What happens if we lose both our next games and WI win their last one? Level on points and then decided on NRR? I presume that wouldn't be good.

[TheBoss]

What happens if we lose both our next games and WI win their last one? Level on points and then decided on NRR? I presume that wouldn't be good.

If that happens, Ireland would be out on NRR as you said.

Ireland will qualify if ONE of these were to happen:
Ireland win or draw v India.
West Indies fail to win v UAE.
Ireland win or draw v Pakistan.

Other circumstances:
If Ireland lose to India, Ireland must win/draw v Pakistan to qualify.
If West Indies beat UAE, Ireland must win/draw v Pakistan to qualify.
If Ireland lose to India and Pakistan, they will be out unless UAE wins or draws v West Indies.

[Real ale Madrid]

Eoin Morgan out for a duck again.

England 126/4 after 28ovs chasing 276 against Bangladesh. Under major pressure now.

[Spudulika]

Great finsh to the England game. it's a holiday here, thanks women! So getting to enjoy it in Moscow.

[swinfordfc]

England out! :)

[nigel-harps1954]

So, India are better than us....who'da thunk it?

[swinfordfc]

So its down to the last game against Pakistan ... it was always going to happen! :)

[BonnieShels]

Managed to stay awake for about our first 60. We were batting very comfortably. I was supremely impressed with how we dealt with their bowlers.

Didn't expect us too win and in fairness we were up against a serious side and have managed to put the highest total on India at this World Cup. Nothing to be sniffed at.

[nigel-harps1954]

Watching the highlights here at the minute. Really have to say, despite putting in the highest score against India in this WC, there really should have been at least 300 hit after such a strong start. Some very poor wickets taken, especially that of Thompson being run out, a poor lack of communication. There could have been a shot at a real proper shock if only for a better second half of the innings.

[BonnieShels]

I'm hoping that we can breathe confidence after the performance though.

Those 5 quick wickets can happen sometimes and were not because of the gulf in class... just **** happens. I hope we are going into the Pakistan clash brimming with confidence.

[OwlsFan]

I see Piers Morgan is having a go an Eoin Morgan for not signing GSTQ:

http://www.irishcentral.com/culture/Piers-Morgan-chimes-in-on-Irish-cricket-players-refusal-to-sing-God-save-the-Queen.html?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=content&utm_campaign=paid

He should have a go at 50% of the English soccer team as well who don't bother either.

[jbyrne]

I see Piers Morgan is having a go an Eoin Morgan for not signing GSTQ:

http://www.irishcentral.com/culture/Piers-Morgan-chimes-in-on-Irish-cricket-players-refusal-to-sing-God-save-the-Queen.html?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=content&utm_campaign=paid

He should have a go at 50% of the English soccer team as well who don't bother either.

why do i hear piers morgan being quoted all the time about anything and everything? who gives a hoot what he says. he's hardly some kind of oracle. baffling really

[Spudulika]

Disappointing day for Ireland, never at the races and strangely subdued.

[bennocelt]

Thompson, rubbish both at bowling and batting

[swinfordfc]

Well they did ok at the world cup - but they will be booking flights tonight - they battling not good enough today - and the bowling is just not fast enough!