Clare League 2009/10

[Planners]

And best of luck to you First

[bishbash]

And best of luck to you First
Get a room......:D

[Planners]

Well lads its offica - almost l
€500 fine
Games played away
Still get the 3 points for the game even though the Chairman said in this weeks papers that the match will be replayed

[Kicks]

I think its fair enough if they dont get docked points but giving them 3 points for a game that they haven't won is ridiculous and if they end up winning the league by 3 points or less the team in second place will have serious cause for complaint

[Ice-man]

Well lads its offica - almost l
€500 fine
Games played away
Still get the 3 points for the game even though the Chairman said in this weeks papers that the match will be replayed

Decision has been made, lets move on before this thread is closed down again

I suggest you send a letter to the CL if you and your club disapprove of the decision made

[papa-j]

Decision has been made, lets move on before this thread is closed down again

I suggest you send a letter to the CL if you and your club disapprove of the decision made

Why would the thread be closed if we are discussing and giving opinions on an official decision that effects the league we play in. So long as no one makes false or slanderous statements. This is not China or Nazi Germany you know.

Interesting if celtic have room for appeal against award of the match? Personally a point each or game null and void for an abandoned game, the rest of punishment is about right.

[Ice-man]

Why would the thread be closed if we are discussing and giving opinions on an official decision that effects the league we play in. So long as no one makes false or slanderous statements. This is not China or Nazi Germany you know.

Interesting if celtic have room for appeal against award of the match? Personally a point each or game null and void for an abandoned game, the rest of punishment is about right.

it shouldnt be but time will tell i guess

[old git]

Why would the thread be closed if we are discussing and giving opinions on an official decision that effects the league we play in. So long as no one makes false or slanderous statements. This is not China or Nazi Germany you know.

Interesting if celtic have room for appeal against award of the match? Personally a point each or game null and void for an abandoned game, the rest of punishment is about right.

agree with most of above papa-j .. personally a replay at neuteral venue would be my view. ( strange that chairman seemed to be going down replay line in papers but then again it is a committe that probally deceide punishment), think they also got of light with fine,were any players suspended ??? will be very intresting in future games can avenue guarantee safety of players at all times & what happens if oppisition refuse to finish / start match claiming safety issues !!!!

[YNWA]

How in gods name can they award them the 3 points the match still had 8 mins plus inj time to be played who is to say bridge celtic wouldnt turn it around crazy stuff from the cdsl.

[First]

Where is this information coming from. Just checked the CDSL site and nothing there regarding a decision.

Isn't it in the rules that a match abandoned after 70 mins the result stands?.

[YNWA]

Where is this information coming from. Just checked the CDSL site and nothing there regarding a decision.

Isn't it in the rules that a match abandoned after 70 mins the result stands?.

yes but should it stand if its the leading team that caused it to be abandoned.

[Stanley]

Where is this information coming from. Just checked the CDSL site and nothing there regarding a decision.

Isn't it in the rules that a match abandoned after 70 mins the result stands?.

I've heard the 70mins thing mentioned loads of times but I can't find anything in the CDSL, MFA or FAI rules to support this.

The rule that covers it in the CDSL rules is;

Rule 52: In the case of abandoned or unfinished fixtures the Executive Committee shall investigate the circumstances, and shall have the power to order a reply, play the unexpired time in 2 (two) equal periods, or award the points or tie. In the case of unexpired time being ordered to be played, it will not be compulsory for the teams concerned to field the same players who participated in the original fixture, but it will be compulsory that each team start with the same amount of players as they finished with at the time of the abandonment or unfinished fixture.

Here's a similar situation to help put things into context...

Milan derby abandoned
The return leg between Inter Milan and AC Milan at the San Siro was abandoned in the 73rd minute after AC Milan goalkeeper Dida was struck on the shoulder by a flare thrown from the crowd. German referee Markus Merk escorted the players from the field with Inter Milan supporters protesting at his decision to disallow a headed goal by Esteban Cambiasso.

Twenty minutes later, Mr. Merk tried in vain to restart the game, but with various objects continuing to rain down onto the pitch, the referee took the decision to abandon the game.

AC Milan were looking relatively comfortable up to that point. Assured and technically accomplished, the Rossoneri had kept a willing but ineffective Inter Milan side at bay.

Andriy Shevchenko fired a sweet left-foot shot home from the edge of the box to put his side in command. His 141st strike for AC Milan was also his 13th against Inter, and the only goal of the game until the match was abandoned.

UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body will now study Mr. Merk's report before deciding on the final outcome of the encounter, which was a 'home' game for Inter Milan. AC Milan were qualified on aggregate when the match was brought to a premature conclusion (2-0 at home, 1-0 when the game was abandoned).

The result stood and Inter were fined €200,000...

[old git]

I've heard the 70mins thing mentioned loads of times but I can't find anything in the CDSL, MFA or FAI rules to support this.

The rule that covers it in the CDSL rules is;

Rule 52: In the case of abandoned or unfinished fixtures the Executive Committee shall investigate the circumstances, and shall have the power to order a reply, play the unexpired time in 2 (two) equal periods, or award the points or tie. In the case of unexpired time being ordered to be played, it will not be compulsory for the teams concerned to field the same players who participated in the original fixture, but it will be compulsory that each team start with the same amount of players as they finished with at the time of the abandonment or unfinished fixture.

Here's a similar situation to help put things into context...

Milan derby abandoned
The return leg between Inter Milan and AC Milan at the San Siro was abandoned in the 73rd minute after AC Milan goalkeeper Dida was struck on the shoulder by a flare thrown from the crowd. German referee Markus Merk escorted the players from the field with Inter Milan supporters protesting at his decision to disallow a headed goal by Esteban Cambiasso.

Twenty minutes later, Mr. Merk tried in vain to restart the game, but with various objects continuing to rain down onto the pitch, the referee took the decision to abandon the game.

AC Milan were looking relatively comfortable up to that point. Assured and technically accomplished, the Rossoneri had kept a willing but ineffective Inter Milan side at bay.

Andriy Shevchenko fired a sweet left-foot shot home from the edge of the box to put his side in command. His 141st strike for AC Milan was also his 13th against Inter, and the only goal of the game until the match was abandoned.

UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body will now study Mr. Merk's report before deciding on the final outcome of the encounter, which was a 'home' game for Inter Milan. AC Milan were qualified on aggregate when the match was brought to a premature conclusion (2-0 at home, 1-0 when the game was abandoned).

The result stood and Inter were fined �200,000...


from fai rules ..

rule 63. responsibilty of clubs
every club is responsible for the actions of its players / officalls / spectators .clubs are required to take all precautions necessary
to prevent spectators threatening or assualting officals / players while in the vicinity of their playing ground !!!
rule 81. brawl /fighting
involvement in brawl/ fight is sanctioned with a suspension for at least 6 matches.... !!!

rule 82. unidentified aggressors
if it not possible to identify perpertrators of an ofence the body may sanction club to which aggressors belong !!!!

rule 93. bringing the game into disrepute
anyone who has brought the game of football into disrepute by any means , written, verbal by action or otherwise will be sanctioned with a suspension and or/ fine and /or a ban performing any football related activity.!!!

so going on fai rules above looks like avenue may have got of extremly lightly in other area's were league could have punished them ... 1.. failed to protect players / 2..involved in brawl by which all accounts they created ../ 3... unidentified aggressors attached to avenue via family / freinds conections.. / 4 .. finally surely game was brought into disrepute by unacceptable scenes at their pitch by their supporters ... due to seriousness of incident it would be very intresting to know what excatly club or both clubs were charged with by league before punishement was deceided

[MikeBassett]

PREGO MENSWEAR CLARE CUP 2010
5 Avenue Utd A
6 Newmarket Celtic A
10 Rineanna Rovers A
12 Bridge Utd A
10 Rock Rovers
16 Bridge Celtic A
7 Bunratty A
12 Lifford AFC
12 Burren Utd
25 Shannon Olympic A
16 Hermitage A
18 Sporting Ennistymon
25 Kildysart Celtic
25 Kilrush Rangers
25 Tulla Utd A
25 Moher Celtic A
33 Bridge Utd B
40 Kilkishen Celtic
40 Bunratty B
40 Manus Celtic A
33 Connolly Celtic
33 Rhine Rovers
33 Kilmaley Fern Celtic
20 Cratloe Forest
33 Shannon Olympic B
16 Hermitage B
20 Cooraclare Celtic
40 Manus Celtic B
40 Bridge Celtic B
40 Corofin Harps B
40 St Pats
40 Moher Celtic B
40 Tulla Utd B
66 Rineanna Rovers B

[MikeBassett]

=Premier Division League=
1/2Rineanna Rovers A 5/2 Shannon Olympic A3/1
5/2Burren United 5/2 Bridge Celtic A1/1
6/4Rock Rovers 2 Bridge United6/4
6/4Bunratty A 2 Newmarket Celtic A6/4
-----------------------------
= First Division League=
1/2Mountshannon Celtic 5/2 Corofin Harps A3/1
8/11Tulla United A 11/5 Turnpike Rovers5/2
6/4Sporting Ennistymon 2 Kildysart Celtic6/4
5/1Moher Celtic A 3/1 Avenue United B1/3
6/4Hermitage A 2 Kilrush Rangers6/4
-----------------------------
=Second Division League=
6/4Newmarket Celtic B 2 Cratloe Forest6/4
7/10rhine Rovers 11/5 Kilmaley United11/4
1/5Bridge United B 4 Shannon Olympic B6/1
1/1Manus Celtic A 11/5 Kilkishen Celtic5/2
6/4Connolly Celtic 2 Bunratty B6/4
-----------------------------
=Third Division League=
6/4Inch Crusaders 2 St.Pats6/4
5/1Rineanna Rovers B 3 Ruan United1/3
11/4Corofin Harps B 5/2 Cooraclare Celtic7/10
1/1Hermitage B 2 Manus Celtic B2/1
1/2Bridge Celtic B 5/2 Tulla United B3/1

[Avenue1990]

ya agreed i think your hardest games will be newmarket away...no one else there to trouble ye..

Maybe true but I think those two games in Newmarket will suit our style of passing football on good pitches and hopefully with 2 good results down there that will be that.

[avenueC]

Clare Cup Outright Odds from Let's Bet
PREGO MENSWEAR CLARE CUP 2010
5 Avenue Utd A
6 Newmarket Celtic A
10 Rineanna Rovers A
12 Bridge Utd A
10 Rock Rovers
16 Bridge Celtic A
7 Bunratty A


hard to see outside that lot

avenue favs at 5's and having to play all away,, ??? nof or banana rovers surely favs now

[mister tee]

rineanna,b celtic,newmarket celtic pays just over four hundred for fifty get on.....

[MikeBassett]

rineanna,b celtic,newmarket celtic pays just over four hundred for fifty get on.....

Rineanna A, Bridge Celtic A, Rock, Tulla, Rhine, Bridge Utd B, Ruan, Bridge Celtic B

[the 12 th man]

Enough said about it,move on.

Any more posts about it and you'll be suspended for a month.

[the lobster]

the rats and the village always a good battle. the village have to win or they can forget the league, on the other hand rats must win or they are in real trouble. draw.

banana and the specials, one way traffic if you are to go by league tables but the specials realy have to get something or its curtains, banana win.

any other fixtures

[CousinSylDolan]

2nd div results
Connolly 1-1 Bunratty B
Bridge B 2-1 Shn Oly B

[old git]

RESULTS

Munster Junior Cup 4th Round
Clonmel Celtic 1-0 Avenue United

Husquarna Maloney Garden Machinery Premier Division League
Rineanna Rovers A 0-2 Shannon Olympic A
Burren United 1-2 Bridge Celtic A
Rock Rovers 2-2 Bridge United
Bunratty A P-P Newmarket Celtic A

[old git]

great results 2day for olympic and bridge celtic..and avenue i suppose..olympic deserved their win..rineanna unlucky in 1st half with a few chances..d kelly scored with a header from corner in 2nd half..then karl scott scored a peno..ref was gas sent 1 off for asking a question..then booked another lad twice but never sent him off...bar that he did a good job..:rolleyes:

who was sent off as no mention of red card on clare league website ???

red cards
14th February

Damien Quirke (Ruan Utd)
Martin Danagher (Kilrush Rangers)
Robert Clancy (Kilrush Rangers)
Paul Linnane (Corofin Harps A)

[old git]

great results 2day for olympic and bridge celtic..and avenue i suppose..olympic deserved their win..rineanna unlucky in 1st half with a few chances..d kelly scored with a header from corner in 2nd half..then karl scott scored a peno..ref was gas sent 1 off for asking a question..then booked another lad twice but never sent him off...bar that he did a good job..:rolleyes:

if player was booked twice then he should have been sent off ... can the other team now appeal to league due to error by ref... unless he was an rineanna player and dont think olympic will appeal then ;);) good 3 points for them today

[CousinSylDolan]

if player was booked twice then he should have been sent off ... can the other team now appeal to league due to error by ref... unless he was an rineanna player and dont think olympic will appeal then ;);) good 3 points for them today

Dont worry, If Rovers have anything to complain about they will be quick on the draw with the letter of complaint.

[old git]

Dont worry, If Rovers have anything to complain about they will be quick on the draw with the letter of complaint.

that's why i was asking... heard they are very quick with complaints / objections

[CousinSylDolan]

It was in the last minute of game so doubt rovers will object. Sour grapes their DJ. In fairness just because ye were missing a few ye played an illegal player against rovers.. Big daddy got caught cheating. End of ya

You obviously dont know the facts of what happened....so stay out of things you know little about. Genuine mistake by Bunratty and no fault of BD...and we have been punished for it.

[Truth Meister]

that's why i was asking... heard they are very quick with complaints / objections

I am a little surprised by this result. Thought that Rineanna would be fighting to keep in touch with Avenue but have seen Olympic a few times and they are better that the table suggests. No grounds for any objection here.

[the lobster]

where is planners

[Planners]

Anseo !!!

Yeah an objection is gone to the Clare League on the 2 cards been issued - we expect an answer after tomorrow nights meeting -we should get the game if there is any consistencey - but then again .............

[devilfish]

:o

I heard that it was said to bunratty member before game and nothing was done about it. But your right I don't know the facts

Less of the jibing then if you admit to not knowing the facts, not sure why ur stirring this, you've enough worries. Matter done and dusted.

[the lobster]

Anseo !!!

Yeah an objection is gone to the Clare League on the 2 cards been issued - we expect an answer after tomorrow nights meeting -we should get the game if there is any consistencey - but then again .............

was it paddy dunne? if so he should be banned from the game for a mistake like that but nothing will be done, he will get away and specials will still get points.

bad result at home but still early days. huge result for the specials and well done to them.

[devilfish]

Anseo !!!

Yeah an objection is gone to the Clare League on the 2 cards been issued - we expect an answer after tomorrow nights meeting -we should get the game if there is any consistencey - but then again .............

Can't blame ye planners, absolute criminal that the lad didn't get his marching orders, player in question should have put his hand up and taken his punishment!! Shocking!

[devilfish]

Look dj came on with a remark and I just commented on it. Was talking to some rovers lads and that's what they told me.

No one cares, it's done and dusted so can you please stick your beak into somewhere else please.

[papa-j]

Anseo !!!

Yeah an objection is gone to the Clare League on the 2 cards been issued - we expect an answer after tomorrow nights meeting -we should get the game if there is any consistencey - but then again .............

Whats the objection? Ref stated he did not book him twice and even if he did there is no provision for an appeal. Refs make mistakes all the time. Only the ref can be punished here. I didn't notice my self but have been told that the Rineanna keeper was booked twice.

[devilfish]

Whats the objection? Ref stated he did not book him twice and even if he did there is no provision for an appeal. Refs make mistakes all the time. Only the ref can be punished here. I didn't notice my self but have been told that the Rineanna keeper was booked twice.

Planners will find something in the rule-book....

[Dubber]

Any reports from division1?? tage and mountshannon both had wins had dey??

[Planners]

Whats the objection? Ref stated he did not book him twice and even if he did there is no provision for an appeal. Refs make mistakes all the time. Only the ref can be punished here. I didn't notice my self but have been told that the Rineanna keeper was booked twice.

http://www.google.cz/search?hl=cs&source=hp&q=picture+of+a+man+fishing&lr=&aq=f&oq=

There's always one :)

[the lobster]

the avenue out of munster junior now, lost 1 nil to clonmel celtic

[papa-j]

papa-J I think you'll find planers was joking. Olympic didn't cheat .. And in fairness no point in trying to get someone else in trouble by saying he got 2 yellows when u know he didn't. Great 3 points simple as ..

I think you'll find I was joking too - and yes great 3 points.

[devilfish]

I think you'll find I was joking too - and yes great 3 points.

I see now why he called himself "special" 1

[Ice-man]

great results 2day for olympic and bridge celtic..and avenue i suppose..olympic deserved their win..rineanna unlucky in 1st half with a few chances..d kelly scored with a header from corner in 2nd half..then karl scott scored a peno..ref was gas sent 1 off for asking a question..then booked another lad twice but never sent him off...bar that he did a good job..:rolleyes:

Not surprised with this result with the rovers safe from the drop! They are getting dizzy from been so high up the table!

This happened before in the WC and nothing happened since the ref was at fault. Nice try though planners.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bkgHx2G_o

[YNWA]

the avenue out of munster junior now, lost 1 nil to clonmel celtic

oh no who will fly the flag for clare now.

[b777b]

Any reports from division1?? tage and mountshannon both had wins had dey??yes both teams had good wins sunday.The 1st div is starting to heat up now mountshannon tage ennistymon kildysart and tulla all in contention,this is probably going to be the most exciting league in clare this year.Some big games this weekend ave b who are capable of beating any1 on their day are playing mountshannon and tulla v tage should be interesting best of luck to all teams!!!!!!http://foot.ie/images/icons/icon10.gif

[studsup]

yes both teams had good wins sunday.The 1st div is starting to heat up now mountshannon tage ennistymon kildysart and tulla all in contention,this is probably going to be the most exciting league in clare this year.Some big games this weekend ave b who are capable of beating any1 on their day are playing mountshannon and tulla v tage should be interesting best of luck to all teams!!!!!!http://foot.ie/images/icons/icon10.gif

For the progression of Clare soccer let's hope the likes of Kildysart and Ennistymon don't get promoted. They bring nothing to the table - the majority of players on both teams only want to play gaelic football and both have got incredibly bad facilities. Mountshannon and Tage look most likely to go up

[studsup]

And mountshannon have good facilities ?? Tage and Tulla to go up. And in my opinion they are the only 2 who might survive in premier .

Did I say Mountshannon have good facilities? Obviously we all know they don't but at this point they're in a good position and look guaranteed a top three finish which gives them a good chance of promotion. Hopefully the Burren stay in the bottom two and Lifford put a good run together to survive the drop

[Planners]

Burren and the rats to go down - early days yet though

[avenueC]

oh no who will fly the flag for clare now.


1 Avenue Utd A 10 9 0 1 31 6 25 27
2 Rineanna Rovers 10 6 1 3 14 10 4 19
3 Bridge Utd A 10 4 4 2 14 14 0 16
4 Bridge Celtic A 10 4 3 3 15 14 1 15
5 Newm Celtic A 8 4 2 2 20 12 8 14

[YNWA]

1 Avenue Utd A 10 9 0 1 31 6 25 27
2 Rineanna Rovers 10 6 1 3 14 10 4 19
3 Bridge Utd A 10 4 4 2 14 14 0 16
4 Bridge Celtic A 10 4 3 3 15 14 1 15
5 Newm Celtic A 8 4 2 2 20 12 8 14

Whats wrong with the other teams that you cant post them or does the clare premier only exist of 5 teams now,dont tell me Avenue pulled another fast one.