Clare League 2009/10

[Roberto]

lads who is involved with avenue around here

I would hazard a guess and say you are looking for some information on Clonmel Celtic??????

[oscar]

who me:rolleyes:god no:o

[eric7]

Just wondering what ye think of the way the Clare league deals with suspensions? We had a guy sent of for verbals couple of weeks ago and has got a seven game ban. Now what he said merited a red but 7 games? The problem I have with the powers that be in the Clare League is they never called him in to give his side of the story( the club did write in our report) and just handed out the suspension. When the club rang the Clare League said we can appeal to the Munster branch and we could see the referees report. See the referees report after the suspension been given out??
The problem we have is a couple of our B players were sent off this season for verbals to the ref as well also but were called in in front of the committee to give their side of the story but our A player was not afforded this courtesy and they ended up with a four game ban as opposed to his seven.

Do ye think that if a player is going to get a ban longer than 3 games he should have the right to give his side of the story in person?

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Just wondering what ye think of the way the Clare league deals with suspensions? We had a guy sent of for verbals couple of weeks ago and has got a seven game ban. Now what he said merited a red but 7 games? The problem I have with the powers that be in the Clare League is they never called him in to give his side of the story( the club did write in our report) and just handed out the suspension. When the club rang the Clare League said we can appeal to the Munster branch and we could see the referees report. See the referees report after the suspension been given out??
The problem we have is a couple of our B players were sent off this season for verbals to the ref as well also but were called in in front of the committee to give their side of the story but our A player was not afforded this courtesy and they ended up with a four game ban as opposed to his seven.

Do ye think that if a player is going to get a ban longer than 3 games he should have the right to give his side of the story in person?

Or here is a thing to think about implementing , avoid all the suspensions and stop verbally abusing refs... solves all problems :D

[eric7]

True, but very easy to say that, the ref in question doesnt do himself any favours and when the adrenaline is pumping its easier said than done, but my thread was about the disciplinary procedure used in this case. Surely the Clare league can afford the man a personal hearing before ending practically his whole season. Or do you think its fair that the referees report is taken as gospel by the powers that be?

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Yes of course, a ref is given the responsibility to officate a match and reports any incidents he deems worthy of mention....thats there guidelines thats why we have football matches , without them all anarchy will rule.
Of course there is good one and bad ones there are always that in life we cant control them but we can control our reactions and if you justify verbal abuse to a ref because of bad decisions then you have accept the consequences that might bring. you said you had two players suspended before for verbal abuse now this is a third you never know there might be a rule for persistant incidents, i don't know but it musn't look good on your club if these incidents keep happening.
So why not deal with discipiliary at your club first which you have control of, set a standard and stick to it and you never need to worry about the Clare League committee again

[Benjy Riordan]

Just wondering what ye think of the way the Clare league deals with suspensions? We had a guy sent of for verbals couple of weeks ago and has got a seven game ban. Now what he said merited a red but 7 games? The problem I have with the powers that be in the Clare League is they never called him in to give his side of the story( the club did write in our report) and just handed out the suspension. When the club rang the Clare League said we can appeal to the Munster branch and we could see the referees report. See the referees report after the suspension been given out??
The problem we have is a couple of our B players were sent off this season for verbals to the ref as well also but were called in in front of the committee to give their side of the story but our A player was not afforded this courtesy and they ended up with a four game ban as opposed to his seven.

Do ye think that if a player is going to get a ban longer than 3 games he should have the right to give his side of the story in person?

Does the player in question have a track record of being sent off for verbals ?

[eric7]

Does the player in question have a track record of being sent off for verbals ?
No can't remember him been sent off before for verbal abuse.

[eric7]

Yes of course, a ref is given the responsibility to officate a match and reports any incidents he deems worthy of mention....thats there guidelines thats why we have football matches , without them all anarchy will rule.
Of course there is good one and bad ones there are always that in life we cant control them but we can control our reactions and if you justify verbal abuse to a ref because of bad decisions then you have accept the consequences that might bring. you said you had two players suspended before for verbal abuse now this is a third you never know there might be a rule for persistant incidents, i don't know but it musn't look good on your club if these incidents keep happening.
So why not deal with discipiliary at your club first which you have control of, set a standard and stick to it and you never need to worry about the Clare League committee again

First off the two players were in the B team same club different teams with different managers who are responsible for their team and it was about 5 months apart. Plus I somehow doubt we are the only club to have a player sent off this season for verbal abuse. But again I am not talking about the referees, they put in their report whatever way they want to, what I am talking about is the way the Clare League come to their decisions on suspensions.
The reason I mentioned both incidents in our club is the way the cases were treated differently.
The first case the players got the opportunity to give their side of the story in person which they did and they both got four games.
The second case he got seven games without the opportunity to give his side in person. In my opinion this is unfair on the player as he didn't get an opportunity to defend himself which I think is only fair or do you think the league are right to make the decisions on suspensions depending on their mood? Should there not be a unilateral way to process all disciplinary cases especially those that the league thinks merits long suspensions and big fines?

[First]

Eric7 , if you read through the threads for the Clare league you will find alot of opinion on this topic . Most of the posts end up in the rubbish , its a bit like the Clare League around here if its worth talking about then it can't be talked about. The CDSL have no consistency in their rulings on anything , but regarding abuse of referees the length of the suspension will depend on the thickness of the skin of the referee involved. You can break a player in half and get 3 games , tell a ref to go feck himself a little over zealously and you could be looking at 8 months. Anyway there is always the option of keeping your mouth shut during a game and get on with it. Radical, I know :eek: but maybe some players out there should try it for a while and see if things improve. Football at all levels could learn alot from the egg chasers here.

[old git]

results from clare cup today .. looks like a new name on cup this season as holders defeated

Prego Menswear Clare Cup 2nd Round
Bunratty B 1-2 Bridge Celtic A
Kilrush Rangers 4-6 Cratloe Forest (AET)
Burren Utd 2-0 Rineanna Rovers A
Bridge Utd A 2-3 Rock Rovers
Connolly Celtic 1-3 Manus Celtic B
Newmarket Celtic A 5-2 Cooraclare Celtic
Bridge Utd B 3-1 Rineanna Rovers B
Manus Celtic A 2-1 Kildysart Celtic
Moher Celtic B 2-1 Corofin Harps B
Kilkishen Celtic 3-0 St Pats
Bunratty A 3-0 Moher Celtic A
Lifford AFC 5-0 Shannon Olympic B
Hermitage A 7-1 Bridge Celtic B
Kilmaley Fern Celtic 1-0 Rhine Rovers
Tulla Utd B 0-4 Avenue Utd A
Tulla Utd A 0-4 Sporting Ennistymon
3rd Round Cup Draw will take place on Friday 5th March at 6PM live on Clare FM

[MikeBassett]

The Cup holders knocked out today, I fancied Rineanna in this one. Anyone have a report on the game?


Accum of Bridge Celtic A, Newmarket A, Bridge Utd B, Lifford, Tage A and Avenue A. Around 15/2

Did anyone chance this accum?:)

[old git]

The Cup holders knocked out today, I fancied Rineanna in this one. Anyone have a report on the game?



Did anyone chance this accum?:)

did you not back your own accum :confused::eek:

[CousinSylDolan]

Bring back Planners!!!!!

[MikeBassett]

did you not back your own accum :confused::eek:

I did.


Bring back Planners!!!!!

Ye came very close to causing an upset in the cup yesterday, Bridge Celtic got out of jail!

[CousinSylDolan]

Ye came very close to causing an upset in the cup yesterday, Bridge Celtic got out of jail!

Yeah we had enough chances to win the game but you gotta take them when they fall to you. Havin said that it was some goal from D Hickey that won it.

[talisman]

Avenue Utd A
Bridge Celtic A
Newmarket Celtic A
Rock Rovers
Bunratty A
Lifford
Burren Utd
Hermitage A
Sporting Ennistymon
Bridge Utd B
Kilkishen Celtic
Manus Celtic A
Cratloe Forest
Kilmaley Fern Celtic
Manus Celtic B
Moher Celtic B

[CousinSylDolan]

Avenue Utd A
Bridge Celtic A
Newmarket Celtic A
Rock Rovers
Bunratty A
Lifford
Burren Utd
Hermitage A
Sporting Ennistymon
Bridge Utd B
Kilkishen Celtic
Manus Celtic A
Cratloe Forest
Kilmaley Fern Celtic
Manus Celtic B
Moher Celtic B

Remaining

7 premier
2 !st
5 2nd
2 3rd

[MikeBassett]

Clare Cup Outright Odds from Let's Bet

Avenue Utd A 5/2
Newmarket Celtic A 5/1
Bunratty A 6/1
Bridge Celtic A 7/1
Rock Rovers 7/1
Lifford 7/1
Burren Utd 10/1
Hermitage A 14/1
Sporting Ennistymon 16/1
Cratloe Forest 16/1
Bridge Utd B 16/1
Manus Celtic A 20/1
Kilkishen Celtic 20/1
Manus Celtic B 20/1
Moher Celtic B 20/1
Kilmaley Fern Celtic 25/1

[Planners]

Bring back Planners!!!!!

Well lads - sorry for the short break but it was decided I needed a short sabbatical in order to get my conscience together :) for my sins I was sent back to Doolin , what a disaster - fair play to them they used the conditions to their advantage , I wouldn't say it was much to look at - the less said the better -

Ye were unlucky heard ye cud have nipped it -


Don’t like starting it up again but we've had a taught -if Ave decide to influence the fixtures { not saying they can } and leave the Bridge return game till the last game in the season and then decide not to turn up as to avoid the possible clash seen in their home game , what action should be taken , is this a strong possibility ? - The rules only give out a €150? fine and you lose the 3 points - If we were in that position we would probably try to do the same , this could greatly increase the chances of the Bridge staying up ans possibly Ave still winning the league - -should the game be fixed as soon as possible as to avoid this " incident " -
This is just our opinion / conspericy theory and we dont want a response - food for taught !!!!!

[First]

The old Planners double act is really gettin boring. Anyway you are assuming alot with your hypothetical scenario. I think you'll find that other clubs haven't thrown in the towel yet unlike as it would seem your lot have Hugh.

[LazyLegs]

The old Planners double act is really gettin boring. Anyway you are assuming alot with your hypothetical scenario. I think you'll find that other clubs haven't thrown in the towel yet unlike as it would seem your lot have Hugh.
Here here first....Any truth in the rumour that your brother has officially announced his retirement from football?

[Planners]

Who kieran ?

[MikeBassett]

Here here first....Any truth in the rumour that your brother has officially announced his retirement from football?

Just watching Sky Sports News there and it seems they've caught wind of this rumour as well LazyLegs.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz157/davidog6/SkySportsNewsDC.jpg

[First]

Here here first....Any truth in the rumour that your brother has officially announced his retirement from football?

As you know he is adopted so I have never really taken any interest in what he does. He is back playing alot of handball , I think he has set his sights on this as a career but when my ould fella is still beating him at 67 years of age I wouldn't have much hope of this lasting:rolleyes:

[MikeBassett]

==Premier Division League==
6/4 Rineanna Rovers A 2 Lifford 6/4
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==Prego Menswear First Division League==
2/5 Mountshannon Celtic 5/2 Hermitage A 4/1
6/4 Corofin Harps A 2 Tulla United A 6/4
7/10 Sporting Ennistymon 5/2 Moher Celtic A 7/2
6/4 Avenue United B 2 Kildysart Celtic 6/4
1/1 Kilrush Rangers 5/2 Turnpike Rovers 5/2
--------------------------------
==Sel Print Second Division League==
7/10 Newmarket Celtic B 5/2 Kilkishen Celtic 7/2
1/2 Rhine Rovers 12/5 Bunratty B 3/1
1/3 Bridge United B 11/4 Manus Celtic A 5/1
3/1 Shannon Olympic B 12/5 Connolly Celtic 1/2
-----------------------------------
==Suttons Lighting Third Division League==
6/4 Ruan United 2 Cooraclare Celtic 6/4
5/1 Corofin Harps B 11/4 Manus Celtic B 1/3
1/3 Hermitage B 11/4 Tulla United B 5/1
1/1 Bridge Celtic B 5/2 St.Pats 5/2
6/4 Moher Celtic B 2 Rineanna Rovers B 6/4
lets bet sports/newmarket-on-fergus
minimum doubles/max bet €50

[Prem Rep!]

Hi All,

Bridge United are running a World Cup 2010 Forecast Competition.
Entry fee: €10
Winner takes all: €1000

Full details on entry form - http://www.bridgeunited.net/page38.htm
Entries can be emailed to mail@bridgeunited.net or given to any club member.

Good luck.

[out red]

2/5 Mountshannon Celtic 5/2 Hermitage A 4/1
Vidic Surely this is a mistake

[MikeBassett]

2/5 Mountshannon Celtic 5/2 Hermitage A 4/1
Vidic Surely this is a mistake

I presume it's right, I copied the odds off oldbean's post on the CDSL guestbook. Good price alright but it won't be easy for them. Mountshannon top of the table and Tage in second. A must win game if Tage want the title but I reckon it has draw written all over it

[b777b]

2/5 Mountshannon Celtic 5/2 Hermitage A 4/1
Vidic Surely this is a mistake
great price its a must win game for us we will be hoping for noting less than a win and i'm going to stick my neck out and say we'll get one 4/1 get on it

[Prem Rep!]

Best of luck to OT team at the weekend. Are the team travelling tomorrow evening or Sunday morning?

[Planners]

bus going at 08:00 sunday am

[MikeBassett]

Moher Celtic B V Lifford
Kilkishen Celtic V Avenue Utd A
Newmarket Celtic A V Kilmaley Fern Celtic
Bridge Celtic A V Cratloe Forest
Bunratty A V Burren Utd
Rock Rovers V Sporting Ennistymon
Hermitage A V Bridge Utd B
Manus Celtic A V Manus Celtic B

To be played March 21st

[donman91]

lifford, avenue, newmarket. bridge celtic a, bunratty, rock, tage a and manus celtic a to progress?

[avenueC]

Best of luck to the Oscar team in sligo

[MikeBassett]

Oscar Traynor Cup Quarter-Final Result

Sligo 1-1 Clare (Clare won 5-4 on pens)

[out red]

Oscar Traynor Cup Quarter-Final Result

Sligo 1-1 Clare (Clare won 5-4 on pens)

well done lads super results. lets hope they go all the way now.

[Prem Rep!]

Great Result, any match report available?

[Planners]

well done to the OT - HK 's influence ??? - amazing what this man can do when he's involved

[talisman]

what was the clare startin 11 and subs used??

[Prem Rep!]

Sligo-Leitrim League side beaten in quarter-final

The quarter final of the Oscar Traynor between the Sligo Leitrim & D.S.L. and the Clare League took place in glorious sunshine at the Ray Mac Sharry Complex on Sunday. Referee Tommy Cormican and his assistance Frank Daly and Declan Toland from Roscommon took charge of this encounter and proceedings were overseen by FAI Junior Council key committee member John Sherlock.

The game started at a very fast pace with both sides looking extremely sharp home side Captain Gary Rooney and Clare’s Con Collins had a battle royal in the middle of the park and Clare were pressing hard insuring the rearguard of Sligo Leitrim were working overtime. On twenty five minutes Clare’s Eoin O Brien seen a great free kick cleared by Captain fantastic Gary Rooney five minutes later and Sligo Leitrim’s keeper Tony Clarke saved brilliantly from the feet of Derek Fahy.

The first half was nip and tuck with the Clare League having the better share of the spoils but despite both sides endeavours the game remained scoreless.

Nine minutes into the second half and Clare’s towering defender Richie Lillis pulled down Keith Nibbs in the penalty area. The referee Tommy Cormican immediately pointed to the spot and Nibbs himself dispatched the ball past John Healy in the Clare goals. The celebrations lasted all of eight minutes when Dave McCarthy netted the equaliser for the visitors and once again it was all square.

Sligo Leitrim was now pressing hard and with ten minutes remaining Gareth Kelly was just inches wide of the Clare goal but after ninety minutes it was all square and the game headed into extra time. Andrew McLoughlin gave away a needless free kick on the edge of the Sligo penalty area five minutes into extra time Eoin O Brien seen his effort smashed of the defence wall and that was about as close as any side came to a scoring opportunity in the first half period.

Minutes into the second half Sligo Leitrim’s Damien Scanlon had his effort on the Clare goal stopped on the goal line by Clare’s Eamon O Reilly and at this stage penalty’s seemed to be the only way that this tie would produce a winner and so it came to pass.

The final result seen the home side / visitors emerge victors in a dramatic climax that seen the keepers play a hero roles. First up was Clares Daryl Eade against Tony Kelly in the Sligo Leitrim goals and what a save he made. Then Gino O Boyle was next against John Healy who also made a great safe. David Russell was next against Kelly and Clare were one up. Neal Mc Kenna then levelled it and Eamon O Reilly put Clare ahead once more, Patrick Callaghan was next for the home side and he planted the spot kick all square next Mattie Nugent for Clare and once again back of the net. The tension was unbearable when John Gaffney netted and then the last two were on the spot Con Collins fired home for Clare with the last man Keith Nibbs scoring for Sligo Leitrim now it was sudden death. Eoin O Brien banged home his spot kick and up stepped Lee Marshall to save the day for Sligo Leitrim but his shot was high and wide and Clare went progress to the Semi Finals in a cracking encounter.

[Ice-man]

Planners - 4 losses on the trot whats going on ?

[Ice-man]

When is the draw for the semi final of the OT ? Whos left ?

Excellent win for them Well done to all involved.

[MikeBassett]

When is the draw for the semi final of the OT ? Whos left ?

Excellent win for them Well done to all involved.
F.A.I Umbro Oscar Traynor Trophy Quarter-Finals:

1. Defence Forces v Galway League
2. Wexford League v Dublin A.U.L.
3. Sligo Leitrim League v Clare League
4. T.S.&.D.L. v Cork A.U.L.

Semi-Final Draw:

Tie 1 v Tie 2
Tie 4 v Clare League

Ties to be played on or before 27/28 March 2010.


what was the clare startin 11 and subs used??
1. John Healy (Avenue Utd)
2. Liam Murphy (Newmarket Celtic)
3. Richie Lillis (Bunratty)
4. Mattie Nugent (Avenue Utd)
5. David Russell (Avenue Utd)
6. Con Collins (Bunratty)
7. Trevor Maxwell (Bridge Utd)
8. Mike O'Malley (Newmarket Celtic)
9. Derek Fahy (Bridge Utd)
10. David McCarthy (Avenue Utd)
11. Eoin O'Brien (Newmarket Celtic)
12. Daryl Eade (Rock Rovers) for Maxwell
13. Ally McMillian (Bunratty) for McCarthy
14. Eamon O'Reilly (Avenue Utd) for Lillis
15. Michael Devitt (Newmarket Celtic)
16. Barry Nugent (Avenue Utd)
17. Ciaran McGlynn (Newmarket Celtic)

[Prem Rep!]

Wexford League beat Dublin A.U.L. at weekend as well

[Planners]

Planners - 4 losses on the trot whats going on ?


disaster - thats all i can say -

[MikeBassett]

********Premier Division*********
6/4 Rineanna Rovers A 2 Bridge United A 6/4
4/9 Lifford A.F.C. 11/4 Shannon Olympic A 3/1
6/4 Rock Rovers 2 Bunratty A 6/4
1/2 Bridge Celtic A 5/2 Burren United 5/2
1/2 Avenue United A 5/2 Newmarket Celtic A 5/2
*******First Division*********
6/4 Corofin Harps A 2 Kilrush Rangers6/4
1/2 Tulla United A 5/2 Sporting Ennistymon 5/2
5/1 Moher Celtic A 11/4 Mountshannon Celtic 1/3
9/4 Avenue United B 2 Hermitage A 1/1
6/4 Turnpike Rovers 2 Kildysart Celtic 6/4
*********Second Division********
1/2 Kilkishen Celtic 5/2 Kilmaley United 5/2
1/2 Rhine Rovers 5/2 Cratloe Forest 5/2
6/4 Bunratty B 2 Manus Celtic A 6/4
1/3 Bridge United B 11/4 Connolly Celtic 5/1
3/1 Shannon Olympic B 12/5 Newmarket Celtic B 1/2
********Third Division*********
1/3 Ruan United 11/4 Moher Celtic B 5/1
5/1 St. Pats 11/4 Cooraclare Celtic 1/3
3/1 Corofin Harps B 5/2 Inch Crusaders 1/2
1/3 Rineanna Rovers B 11/4 Tulla United B 5/1
6/4 Bridge Celtic B 2 Hermitage B 6/4

[Avenue1990]

The premier league will be done and dusted come this sunday with victory in newmarket and then its roll on the double! Also congrats to the Oscar traynor team and management.

[mastermind1]

Dont be fooled by avenue 1990, hes not even a club man. we here at avenue give everybody we play the respect they deserve. newmarket are a very decent team and will be very tough to beat sunday. i d also like to say that the cup could go to any 1 of the teams left in it, so to say we ll win it at this stage is stupid really. was talking to our management and they wanted to say that they treat every team with respect. hopefully nobody here falls for avenue 1990s tricks to wind newmarket up

[AWOL]

[You are back Mastermind?? And such an evangelical attitude! :):):D