Keith Fahey

[paul_oshea]

tut tut :rolleyes: :p

[youngirish]

Stephen Hunt played in League One with Brentford, Kilbane played there with Preston, Whelan played there with Sheffield Wednesday, Andrews spent 2 seasons in League 2, Keogh was in League 1 with Scunthorpe.
All playing Premiership football now, well Keogh will be next season.

I think Dodge was referring to the top quality players I mentioned and not the likes of the middling players above. Kilbane should probably still be playing in League 1 if there was any justice.

[Dodge]

I think Dodge was referring to the top quality players I mentioned and not the likes of the middling players above.
I was

[NeilMcD]

I think Dodge was referring to the top quality players I mentioned and not the likes of the middling players above. Kilbane should probably still be playing in League 1 if there was any justice.

You seem to think that talent is the only skill required to be a top level professional footballer.

[tricky_colour]

Can someone give me a shout when this bo**ocks is finished so I can get back to keeping tabs on a very promising looking player who I haven't been able to see much of?

Thanks.

Ha ha I don't think I have seem a more off topic thread in my life, it has even began to drift off the LOI thread it had become :D
It should be renamed "Keith Fahey, LOI and and number of miscellaneous topics" with a line struck through Keith Fahey!!
I have no idea what it is about at the moment!

[NeilMcD]

Its about what ever you want it to be about. Irish conversations have a habit of coming in and out of topic.

[Stuttgart88]

Can anyone think of a link between Keith Fahey and Saipan?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Football

[Dodge]

Can anyone think of a link between Keith Fahey and Saipan?

The obvious one being Roy Kean played in the LOI, so obviously that marks Fahey down as a fabulous leader and all round troublemaker and quitter

[Billsthoughts]

The way I see it is, Sunderland Bohs reads the forum and only sees people ravin on about lower league players playing in England and not LOI players. Youngirish reads the forum and only sees people raving about LOI players. I think lads you should swap which posts you are reading and we will all be happy.

better still you could just pm them your thoughts.

[NeilMcD]

and likewise.

[tetsujin1979]

Can anyone think of a link between Keith Fahey and Saipan?
Keith Fahey plays for Birmingham City
Birmingham City are based in Birmingham
Birmingham is also the hometown of Aston Villa
Aston Villa is a former club of Steve Staunton
Steve Staunton captained Ireland at the 2002 World Cup
2002 was the 18 anniversary of the release of Footloose
Footloose starred Kevin Bacon!

7 steps to Kevin Bacon! No wait, what was the question again?

[geysir]

How about one step to Saipan.

Keith Andrews trained in Inchicore.
Both places are kips.

[Superhoops]

Can anyone think of a link between Keith Fahey and Saipan?

Team captain fell out with manager
- Keane/McCarthy in Saipan
- Fahey/Doolin at Drogheda in 2006

[paul_oshea]

how about one step to saipan.

Keith andrews trained in inchicore.
Both places are kips.

lol :d

[hula4]

How about one step to Saipan.

Keith Andrews trained in Inchicore.
Both places are kips.

dont remember keith andrews training in inchicore, think keith fahey did though

[Billsthoughts]

has trapped picked irelands most skillfull footballer yet???

[MeathDrog]

has trapped picked irelands most skillfull footballer yet???
Glen Fitzpatrick should get a call up soon. ;)

[Claret Murph]

I see the great Liam Millar has beeen let go from QPR and yet KF can't get into the squad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stuttgart88]

McCann, McCarthy, Garvan, O'Toole & Quinn could all feel similarly aggrieved. The case to pick Fahey over any of these isn't that compelling.

[TonyD]

in fairness neil, if he can be that fickle about supporting his country then its all the better he doesn't.

Nothing fickle about it. I've grown sick of the whole thing over the last few years and I make no apology for it. If you think it's better that I don't support Ireland, then I agree. Some of the attitudes expressed here (Not neccessarily yours btw) are one of the things that turned me off, if some people find me "objectionable" because of that, too bad. I'll just have to cry myself to sleep. And let me just state again, I know, as most LOI fans do I'm sure, that the players in the LOI are here because they didn't/couldn't make it in England. I know that they are not as good as the players in the International squad. We don't live in some sort of bubble you know. I watch some English football, some champions league, and yes, Irish internationals on TV. None of this has any bearing on which team I support. I take the old fashioned view. Proper supporters support their local team. I genuinely don't understand someone living in Dublin, Cork, Mayo or Derry who can refer to Man U, Liverpool, or Celtic as "we" and "us" with a straight face. When that attitude turns to hostility against local teams and their supporters then I get rightly peed off. Old ground, old debate, and off topic, I know. But there you go. And one last question. Do people not support the League of Ireland because it's crap, or is the league of Ireland crap because people don't support it ? See the connection ?

[danonion]

Proper supporters support their local team.

Yawn.

What team should people from Mayo support?

[theworm2345]

Proper supporters support their local team.
So I should support the Chicago Fire and the US? I'd rather give up watching footy all together than support any MLS team or the US.

[Sheridan]

Yawn.
Yeah, the truth can be pretty boring, can't it?

What team should people from Mayo support?That's easy, Manchester United!

[tricky_colour]

Can anyone think of a link between Keith Fahey and Saipan?

Both produced humongous off-topic threads :D

[eirebhoy]

Proper supporters support their local team. I genuinely don't understand someone living in Dublin, Cork, Mayo or Derry who can refer to Man U, Liverpool, or Celtic as "we" and "us" with a straight face.
Tony, the vast majority of people did not make an adult decision on which club they want to support. By the time they reached their adult years almost all of us had already grown an affinity for a team. About 90% of LOI fans support their clubs because they are from the local area (Inchicore, Phibsboro, etc.), they were brought to games at a young age by family or friends, or the club is representing their town or city. There's not many of you that decided at the age of 25 that we should all be supporting an Irish team and then grew a love for a certain club.

I wish people would cop on to that. You can't tell a 10 year old why he shouldn't be supporting Man Utd and that's the age we all start supporting these clubs. And that's never going to change. I love Celtic now and I wouldn't dream about giving them up. It'd be like giving up the drink. It's not going to happen.

[paul_oshea]

Yeah, the truth can be pretty boring, can't it?
That's easy, Manchester United!

Do you ever contribute anything meaningful?

[paul_oshea]

Nothing fickle about it. I've grown sick of the whole thing over the last few years and I make no apology for it. If you think it's better that I don't support Ireland, then I agree. Some of the attitudes expressed here (Not neccessarily yours btw) are one of the things that turned me off, if some people find me "objectionable" because of that, too bad. I'll just have to cry myself to sleep. And let me just state again, I know, as most LOI fans do I'm sure, that the players in the LOI are here because they didn't/couldn't make it in England. I know that they are not as good as the players in the International squad. We don't live in some sort of bubble you know. I watch some English football, some champions league, and yes, Irish internationals on TV. None of this has any bearing on which team I support. I take the old fashioned view. Proper supporters support their local team. I genuinely don't understand someone living in Dublin, Cork, Mayo or Derry who can refer to Man U, Liverpool, or Celtic as "we" and "us" with a straight face. When that attitude turns to hostility against local teams and their supporters then I get rightly peed off. Old ground, old debate, and off topic, I know. But there you go. And one last question. Do people not support the League of Ireland because it's crap, or is the league of Ireland crap because people don't support it ? See the connection ?

Tony, the local junior club at home played in a final in terryland there a couple of weeks ago(which they won :D), its always been a strong soccer town, but also strong GAA as well. Anyway, 700 from home were at the game(as oppossed to the "local" team who only had about 300, even though only 2 miles away, probably galway united supporters ;) ) supporting their local side, how many of them support Man United? Id say a lot, I know for sure even more support celtic(their own celtic as well as glasgow celtic :) ), but when it comes to the cruch they support THEIR LOCAL SOCCER club. Point being as Ive pointed out to so many LOI fans(most who seem to be supporters of Dublin clubs, for some reason?!) we do support our local clubs, unfortunately for you our local clubs are generally junior clubs, not LOI clubs some 45 miles away......not a ten minute bus ride on the 78a or the 19a....

[DmanDmythDledge]

McCann, McCarthy, Garvan, O'Toole & Quinn could all feel similarly aggrieved. The case to pick Fahey over any of these isn't that compelling.
Definitely. Fahey's a good bit down the pecking order. I think it just shows the options we have in centre mid at the moment though- he'd have been damn close to the squad a couple of seasons ago.


Do you ever contribute anything meaningful?
No.

[Rory H]

Yawn.

What team should people from Mayo support?

Castlebar Celtic or Sligo Rovers?

[Sheridan]

Do you ever contribute anything meaningful?
This, kids, is a phenomenon called "projection."

[Closed Account]

In fairness, I'm from Mayo and have no affinity with Sligo Rovers or Galway United. I do support Castlebar Celtic because I grew up within 100metres of the ground and played with them for years. But you wouldn't get many people outside of town to support them. They'll want them to do well but not won't travel to watch them play. Anyway this is all a bit off topic, I think eirebhoy put it well.
A lot of people start supporting United, Liverpool etc when they are 10 years old and there brothers, fathers supported them. I wasn't even aware LOI existed at that age. Thankfully I grew out of it and hopefully it'll get better as LOI gets more coverage. Do you really want those diehard Liverpool and United fans supporting your local club anyway? They all seem like tossers.

[elroy]

Tony, the local junior club at home played in a final in terryland there a couple of weeks ago(which they won :D), its always been a strong soccer town, but also strong GAA as well. Anyway, 700 from home were at the game(as oppossed to the "local" team who only had about 300, even though only 2 miles away, probably galway united supporters ;) ) supporting their local side, how many of them support Man United? Id say a lot, I know for sure even more support celtic(their own celtic as well as glasgow celtic :) ), but when it comes to the cruch they support THEIR LOCAL SOCCER club. Point being as Ive pointed out to so many LOI fans(most who seem to be supporters of Dublin clubs, for some reason?!) we do support our local clubs, unfortunately for you our local clubs are generally junior clubs, not LOI clubs some 45 miles away......not a ten minute bus ride on the 78a or the 19a....

I have no problem with people following clubs in other countries. However, in the unlikely scenario where a LOI team were drawn against a big English team/Celtic in a European cup group/knockout game, unfortunately I believe the vast majority of that English/Celtic teams Irish fans would support the English team/Celtic as opposed to the LOI team. It would be embarrassing really, we potentially have a home game for the LOI team where most of the fans present supported the away team.

[youngirish]

This, kids, is a phenomenon called "projection."

I'd call it perception.

[Dodge]

Do you really want those diehard Liverpool and United fans supporting your local club anyway? They all seem like tossers.

Its amazing how tolerant you can be when people pay in tos ee your team play


However, in the unlikely scenario where a LOI team were drawn against a big English team/Celtic in a European cup group/knockout game, unfortunately I believe the vast majority of that English/Celtic teams Irish fans would support the English team/Celtic as opposed to the LOI team. It would be embarrassing really, we potentially have a home game for the LOI team where most of the fans present supported the away team.

It happened in 1998 for Pats v Celtic. One of the low points of my footballing life was hearing an Irish celtic fan telling our Scottish striker Ian Gilzean to "**** off vback to Britain" (as he spoke with a bit of a cockney accent having lived there most of his life)

[paul_oshea]

That draw away was class. Hawkins had a great game that night, was sure that a big move for him was on the horizon after that display, jees thats 11 years ago?! Im getting old :(

I cant beleive it was that long ago, when celtic came back and won 2 - 0 was it?! Didn't realise I was following LOI that long ;) :D

[Claret Murph]

Tony, the local junior club at home played in a final in terryland there a couple of weeks ago(which they won :D), its always been a strong soccer town, but also strong GAA as well. Anyway, 700 from home were at the game(as oppossed to the "local" team who only had about 300, even though only 2 miles away, probably galway united supporters ;) ) supporting their local side, how many of them support Man United? Id say a lot, I know for sure even more support celtic(their own celtic as well as glasgow celtic :) ), but when it comes to the cruch they support THEIR LOCAL SOCCER club. Point being as Ive pointed out to so many LOI fans(most who seem to be supporters of Dublin clubs, for some reason?!) we do support our local clubs, unfortunately for you our local clubs are generally junior clubs, not LOI clubs some 45 miles away......not a ten minute bus ride on the 78a or the 19a....

Sorry Paul I just spoke to thr Chairman of West United who I work with and he knows how many people came to watch the game as both side got 25% share of the gate money and 50% to the Galway FA . West United play in green and white hoops so that's why so many Celtic shirts . The home side had around 250 to 300 fans while the away side had 350 to 400 fans I don't want to talk about money but €10 to get in so it was easy to see how many turned up . One last thing West United are one of the best area's in town to follow Galway United as so many players in the past has turned out for the club .

Facts Paul not fiction .............................

[paul_oshea]

Sorry Paul I just spoke to thr Chairman of West United who I work with and he knows how many people came to watch the game as both side got 25% share of the gate money and 50% to the Galway FA . West United play in green and white hoops so that's why so many Celtic shirts . The home side had around 250 to 300 fans while the away side had 350 to 400 fans I don't want to talk about money but €10 to get in so it was easy to see how many turned up . One last thing West United are one of the best area's in town to follow Galway United as so many players in the past has turned out for the club .

Facts Paul not fiction .............................

Sorry, I just checked and I gave the total, fair point. I was only messing about Galway United supporters. Still though 400 of a population of around 1500 - 2k isn't bad, the general point still stands re:local club!

[KK77]

there's no hope of keith been called up, not under trap anyway. hes not his type of player. hes not a winger and hes not trap's type of central midfielder.

He's not international class end of discussion.

[Dodge]

He's not international class end of discussion.

*sigh*

Thats not the argument. The argument is whether he's better than some of those selected.

Next year he's likely to be playing at a higher level than some of those lads too, so that arguement can't be used.

And for the record I've consistently said he should be in the squad if everyone was fit and available

[KK77]

*sigh*

Thats not the argument. The argument is whether he's better than some of those selected.

Next year he's likely to be playing at a higher level than some of those lads too, so that arguement can't be used.

And for the record I've consistently said he should be in the squad if everyone was fit and available


Lets see how he gets on next season but i for one won't be holding my breath. Hope i am wrong.

[paul_oshea]

He's not international class end of discussion.

what have you based this on Rafa_B?!

[KK77]

what have you based this on Rafa_B?!

International class players and that's not being smart.

[gustavo]

International class players and that's not being smart.
:confused:

How would you define international class?

[Duggie]

He's not international class end of discussion.

thats not what i meant, just i cant see trap calling on him. hope im wrong cause fahey is class. have u seen him play before he went to eng rafa b. anyone who has seen him for years in LOI knows his ability, and he is up to international level.

[DmanDmythDledge]

And for the record I've consistently said he should be in the squad if everyone was fit and available
Whelan
A Reid
S Reid
McCann
Garvan
Andrews

All definitely better than Fahey at the moment. There's a couple more that probably would be as well. I think Fahey's a good bit away from the squad at the moment.

[KK77]

thats not what i meant, just i cant see trap calling on him. hope im wrong cause fahey is class. have u seen him play before he went to eng rafa b. anyone who has seen him for years in LOI knows his ability, and he is up to international level.


Yes seen him loads of times before he went back to England and he is a good player but not international class. Hope i am wrong like you really do.

[MeathDrog]

International class players and that's not being smart.
Terrific argument. You've seemed to have won everyone over with that one.

:confused:

[Dodge]

McCann's not better than Fahey. Saw him play against Birmingham and he was certainly not "international class". TV viewings gave me similar impression

Obviously has more scope to improve

[KK77]

:confused:

How would you define international class?

Stephen Ireland:D