Gaa 2007

[Rovers fan]

i had a feeling cork would give meath a bit of a walloping. the likes of stephen bray couldnt keep playing the way they were. the cork midfield is superb.

[Soko]

I don't see that result as any bit of a surprise. Meath were vastly over rated from beating a dying Galway team and a flat Tyrone side. Cork were physically too strong, fast and fit for them to compete with


Having said that, Kerry would beat us again. Hoping for a Dublin-Cork final now

[theworm2345]

I was hoping Waterford would win last week, if only Dan the Man had scored I think he would've hit his stride. Oh well, my heart wasn't set on it anyway

[bennocelt]

Kind of happy that Cork won, i think they are a decent team, with a great midfield, but they only really play as good or as bad as their opposition

At least Cork put it up to Meath in the physical stakes, and you just knew Meath werent upto it when you see Geraghty falling to the ground very lamely rather than hit back, jesus he looked like a frightened kitten
Thats what Tyrone should have done. In their game they only did 2 shoulder charges in the whole game!!!! Instead they did the usual Ulster dancing and dragging around the opponent

all set for a Cork-Kerry final, here's hoping anyway

[shakermaker1982]

I hope Cork win it, yesterdays hammering surprised me.

[geysir]

Meath were vastly over rated from beating a dying Galway team and a flat Tyrone side
You are assuming that teams perform with consistancy.
The simple explanation is that Meath played very well against a reasonably competititve Tyrone team and were flat against a very good Cork performance.

[paul_oshea]

You are assuming that teams perform with consistancy.

whats that when its at home?

Didnt see much of it, but about the last 10 mins and have to say both teams looked very poor, but im sure Cork knew they had done enough at that stage. Was very suprised by this. was expecting a dublin v meath final, now im expecting a kerry v cork final.

[Soko]

You are assuming that teams perform with consistancy.
The simple explanation is that Meath played very well against a reasonably competititve Tyrone team and were flat against a very good Cork performance.



I assumed nothing other than their previous performances were overrated due to their opposition. Thanks for the "simple" breakdown though, very informative

[geysir]

Any bit of analysis of the game would show that Meath played a lot better against Tyrone than they did against Cork. That if they had put in a similar performance on Sunday there would have been a competitive game against Cork.
I think Cork would still have beaten a Meath on their best form.
Meath were 4/6, not exactly overdog odds.
Cork were underrated, but at odds of 11/8 not underwhelming.

In GAA, overated was Kerry at 1/6 to beat Monaghan.

[MeathDrog]

Meath were ****.Why did I bother going?

[gael353]

Hows things lads, just asking, if anyone can get tickets for the all ireland hurling final that they would not be using i could do with a....lot of them. Ive been to all the munster, 1/4 and 1/2 this year along with all my mates and now as i am not a member of any club stand little chance of getting any. 30,000 + at the semi from Limerick and the final allocation is under 10,000, so a lot of pepple look like losing out. I wont pay over the odds, just if someone can get them please consider me.

[kingdom hoop]

I hope Dublin beat Kerry.

Just so we are not subjected to another Cork Kerry match.

I hope Kerry beat Dubin.

Just so Cork are subjected to another beating from Kerry:)

I'm heading up for Sunday's match. Whats the buzz around Dublin like this week? Confident? Lots of bandwagoners? We were distracted by the Rose of Tralee for a few days but now attention is shifting towards the weekend with the sense of occasion now beginning to simmer, soon to boil over into nigh on unbridled excitement. I think the Jackeens will be silenced as the more experienced, win-weary, if only marginally better, team triumphs. Perhaps most significant in my calculation is the strength of the Kerry bench where several forwards of a very high calibre, with breakneck speed, lie in wait to vanquish the Dubs in the furious closing stages. Hup the Kingdom!

[paul_oshea]

hoop, are you sure you shoudl be making the journey all that way, after all its only the semi-final :rolleyes:

Come on the Dubs!!!!!!

hopefully though, vaughn will get a box. I only found out he went to blackrock and is from a rugby playing background there a while ago ( thats not the reason why he deserves a box ( no one does ), but it helps though :D jokin)

[joeSoap]

Unless Kerry step up considerably on their form to date, the Dubs will beat them .

But they always do, don't they?

[Soko]

Vaughan deserves nothing less than a beating with a lead pipe. He is the lowest of the low, complete toe rag

[Aberdonian Stu]

This Vaughan abuse is OTT. He did one thing and some people are treating him like he's Mike Vick.

[geysir]

Dublin are not used to playing at this level are they? :)

Kerry defence will contain the Dubs, midfield battle to be evened out, Kerry forwards to make hay.

[paul_oshea]

and hang sangwiiiiges

[geysir]

and hang sangwiiiiges

And washed down with 2l of bulmers.

[OneRedArmy]

Whats the buzz around Dublin like this week? Confident? Lots of bandwagoners? From a county that can't be arsed to travel until the final!!

In fairness to Dublins bandwagoners, they do go to ALL the Championship games and are pretty much paying for Croker based on the rest of this years dismal attendences.

[shakermaker1982]

From a county that can't be arsed to travel until the final!!

In fairness to Dublins bandwagoners, they do go to ALL the Championship games and are pretty much paying for Croker based on the rest of this years dismal attendences.

exactly! And they didn't even hang around at the final whistle last year after giving us such a pasting. The pubs around Dublin were full of Mayo fans after the game (most in good humour despite the beating), I had never seen anything like it.

[Aberdonian Stu]

Well Fagan's was loaded with Dubs after the Mayo defeat last year but the losing side is always more likely to head home first after a game as they are hardly in a celebratory mood. It's hardly that surprising that there were less Dubs in the pubs apres match that day.

[shakermaker1982]

we tend to stay till last orders after a beating in Croke Park...... If we ever win the Sam I reckon the County would go on the beer for a week!!!!

I suppose the Kerry fans are so used to winning the bloody thing there is no excitement left for em.

[casso36]

UP THE DUBS!!!

Shaker have the faith. When Whelan takes out O'Shea with a box, the game is our's!!!

[kingdom hoop]

hoop, are you sure you shoudl be making the journey all that way, after all its only the semi-final :rolleyes:


Having made the arguably more arduous journey to Dungarvan for the first round match, yes, Paul, I'm happy to make the trek.:) Anyway, I'm moving to Dublin in time for the final so this is kind of like the annual pilgrimage to Croker;)

[geysir]

UP THE DUBS!!!

Shaker have the faith. When Whelan takes out O'Shea with a box, the game is our's!!!
One box? :) you are optimistic that that would be enough.
This isn't a grudge game Leinster style against a bunch of plodders like Meath.
Kerry stood strong in the toughest game that any team in this championship have had to endure.
Apparantly, if having to read Peig doesn't kill you it makes you stronger.

[paul_oshea]

Well Fagan's was loaded with Dubs after the Mayo defeat last year but the losing side is always more likely to head home first after a game as they are hardly in a celebratory mood. It's hardly that surprising that there were less Dubs in the pubs apres match that day.

he is on about kerry, not dublin stu!!


When Whelan takes out O'Shea with a box, the game is our's!!!

its "o'sé"

[passinginterest]

If I was lucky enough to have a house I think I'd be tempted to put it on Kerry for this one.

Cruised through the championship, found another level in the closing stages against Monaghan and will be hyped up to the last against the Dubs.

Can't see Dublin not cracking under the pressure, the intensity and quality of the Kerry play will leave them humbled. I can see it being break neck pace in the early stages, if the Dubs can sneak 2 goals in the first 10 minutes I'd give them a chance of holding on, if not Kerry to put them away in the last 20 minutes and win by 5 points or more.

Wouldn't bet against Cork in the final either way. I've tipped them at the start of the championship for the last 2 years only for them to slip in the semi. They just might do it this time.

[paul_oshea]

Can't see Dublin not cracking under the pressure, the intensity and quality of the Kerry play will leave them humbled. I can see it being break neck pace in the early stages, if the Dubs can sneak 2 goals in the first 10 minutes I'd give them a chance of holding on, if not Kerry to put them away in the last 20 minutes and win by 5 points or more.


agreed on that it will be some match i reckon. Unless kerry start flying ahead too early!

[Marked Man]

This is a better Dublin team than Kerry have beaten in recent years. With Vaughan knocking over frees like nobody's business, Kerry will not be able to foul. But if they don't, Dublin's forwards will score big.
Dublin to win, with Vaughan the main reason.

Btw, all Vaughan did was goad a Laois defender who had pushed him in the back as he was running away after having scored. If that makes him the lowest of the low, there's not much hope for any of us.

[geysir]

I forgot about Vaughan and his 45's.
will his knees turn all knobbly this time around?

[Marked Man]

Naah. Peroxide in his hair, ice in his veins.

[Soko]

This Vaughan abuse is OTT. He did one thing and some people are treating him like he's Mike Vick.



This has nothing to do with whats he's done on the field. He is slime

[Aberdonian Stu]

Well if it's based on off the field antics either air it here, assuming it's not libellous, or leave it lie. Repeatedly making disparaging remarks about the guy without back up is rude to the readers as we have no idea what you are basing your comments on.

[geysir]

How about, if it's off the field leave it off this thread.

[gilberto_eire]

From a county that can't be arsed to travel until the final!!

In fairness to Dublins bandwagoners, they do go to ALL the Championship games and are pretty much paying for Croker based on the rest of this years dismal attendences.

no its just because theres a million people there. and 70,000 seats in croker!!. there'll be plenty of bandwagon'ers there and those rich people with the contacts who just go to the final!!

[Aberdonian Stu]

Good point geysir. I'm just irritated by this criticism as like Vaughan I'm a member of Kilmacud Crokes and he's done us great service so it's annoying to see him attacked without any basis for those attacks presented.

[Soko]

Good point geysir. I'm just irritated by this criticism as like Vaughan I'm a member of Kilmacud Crokes and he's done us great service so it's annoying to see him attacked without any basis for those attacks presented.



I wont post it in public but I'll PM you if you want. As Crokes member, I'm sure you are well aware of this cretin operates off the field

[bennocelt]

This is a better Dublin team than Kerry have beaten in recent years. With Vaughan knocking over frees like nobody's business, Kerry will not be able to foul. But if they don't, Dublin's forwards will score big.
Dublin to win, with Vaughan the main reason.
.

Only if the ref keeps giving them frees like the last game, from play dublin forwards are pretty crap at scoring (apart from running the ball into the net for goals):)

[Marked Man]

If opposing players foul Dublin players, what else would the referee do other than give frees? It's not like points from frees count any less than points from play, you know.

[bennocelt]

If opposing players foul Dublin players, what else would the referee do other than give frees? It's not like points from frees count any less than points from play, you know.

fouls? soft ones at that i think, but dont worry Kerry also get lots of them too (re Mongahan game)
Points from frees are all Dublin can get, if the ref doesnt help them then it could be a worry

[geysir]

Usually free kicks are the result of good play, against Derry the Dubs won the 45's and won the free kicks, all through good attacking play.

[geysir]

The proverbial game of 2 halves.
In the first the Dubs disgraced the game with their goading. Worse than cheating imo. In the 2nd half they balanced it out by playing the game as it should be played and deserve credit for giving their all and contributing to a gripping finale.

This time I was a neutral watching Kerry and would have put my house on that whatever had to be done in the last 5 minutes they would do it. 2 lovely moves with 15 or 20 passes all over the Dublin half, very difficult to do, the Dubs couldn't foul, Kerry couldn't put a pass wrong and in between Dara O'Sé won a great midfield ball. The whistle blew while Kerry still had secure possesion. It was an emphatic win for Kerry.

The minor SF was a brilliant game which witnessed a classic comeback by Laois who were dead but not quite buried. That Zac Touhy nr 7 shirt will be a big seller in Laois.

[Soko]

Kerry were 11/8 at ht, what a farce. Must have been a Dub setting that price with very little regard for Paddy Powers money

[Marked Man]

The proverbial game of 2 halves.
In the first the Dubs disgraced the game with their goading. .


To be honest, I thought Kerry were lucky to end the first half with 15 men on the field.
They cut it out in the second half though, and the better team on the day won; congratulations to Kerry.

[OneRedArmy]

For Dublin it was like the Derry game in reverse. It was effectively over after 50mins but Kerry switched off and let them back in. But you got the feeling that whenever Kerry needed a point they would get it.

GAA really need to sort out the off-the-ball stuff, the first half yesterday was a farce and both sides were to blame. People try and defend it by saying its a hard game, but there's nothing hard about late hits and slapping lads from behind, absolutely cowardly.

As for Derry in the minors :eek:

[Aberdonian Stu]

Kerry were 11/8 at ht, what a farce. Must have been a Dub setting that price with very little regard for Paddy Powers money

Hardly shocking and it's not the bookies' fault. Odds reflect the money being placed on the contenders, Dublin are always poor value because so much is placed on them by punters who are easily parted from their cash.

[casso36]

Dublin should have known that Kerry would hit them hard from the off, but as usual we end up playing catch up!. The game was won in the first few mins of both halves. Kerry pulled, kicked, and bullied dublin, and this is what happens everytime they meet and dublin had no answer again!!#

At some stages of the game yesterday it looked as though kerry had extra players on the pitch, they always seemed to have more players in space all over the pitch with dublin gone missing for huge periods of game.

[shakermaker1982]

I enjoyed the game but Kerry can rough it up with the best of em. They have the experience and bench to win close games. The Dubs played well but those first 10 minutes in the 2nd half cost em.

[geysir]

I see there is some focus on Cluxton's late wanderlust with the ball. Farcical yes but not crucial, Kerry just got possesion in their own half, they worked it up the end line, back down again, then across the width of the pitch before pointing.

The Kerry Monaghan game was as physical as you get, big hits off and on the ball, there were no handbags or flare ups, crucially there was none of the theatrical goading. That game flowed .
Here the goading precipitated a needlessly negative game in the first half, it was clearly a Dub calculated tactic.
The hits and tackles were of the same intensity in the 2nd half but the game flowed.