Gaa 2007

[Torn-Ado]

here are my predictions:

Laois v Roscommon on Saturday 4th August in Thurles at 2pm
Carlow v Galway on Sunday 5th August in Tullamore at 2pm
Tyrone v Kerry on Sunday 5th August in Tullamore at 3.45pm
Cork v Derry on Saturday 11th August in Croke Park at 11.30am


Roscommon ( i hope im right for once )
Galway
Kerry ( though this will be the closest i reckon, but kerry have lost a lot of minors from last year )
Derry

The Galway minors will lose. They won four out of the last five Connacht minor titles and still haven't made it to Croke park.

[Real ale Madrid]

Dubs apparently getting 65,000 tickets for the QF leaving 12,000 to divide between, Derry, Cork (MFC QF) Roscommon and Armagh (Nicky Rackard Final).

Ridiculous.

You want to know what is ridiculous?

Asking Cork Supporters to travel up to the capital – two days in a row to support their teams, for the second year ina row – then ask people who wish to support the minor hurlers to travel to Portlaoise on Saturday evening at 7. Then ask the people who paid in to see the Waterford / Cork game to pay 10 euro more to see the replay!

Why could the Gaa not fix the two Cork games for the Saturday in Croker? Im sure Meath or Tyrone would have had few objections to playing at Croker on the Sunday.
Or even if they could not move the football – could they not let the hurlers at least play in Thurles and stagger the throw in times.

It proves one thing – the GAA don’t give a twopenny **** about its loyal supporters.

[geysir]

Ah I love it when a Kerry man calls Cork arrogant:)
It doesn't take much insight to call Kerry at 1/5 for an easy win. I seriously doubt that the Kerry team will have that attitude. Much of the team are still there from that league game last year.
Kerry were no great shakes against Cork. Reports since are that Donaghy is able to train hard and the players with Feale, South/Mid Kerry and O'Rahillys are doing very well.
Tyrone were similar odds 2/9 to win the UF. Monaghan played poorly by their own standards for 30 mins yet they still stretched Tyrone all the way.
They were bitterly dissapointed to lose that game.
Ulster fans know the strengths of their game very well and they recognize that Monaghan have been improving steadily over the last 2 years with fitness, organization and belief. There is no hype, the praise is hard earned and merited.
McEneaney is a shrewd manager, a good motivater and tactican, he does his homework on the opposition and now has had 4 hard Ulster games to fine tune his team.
Midfield will be interesting with the brilliant O'Shea and prob Quirke. The big man is a lovely fielder but against Cork his distribution wasn't that good, he appeared to lack fitness with some poor tackles.
I'd expect the Monaghan 1/2 back line to drop deep to affect supply to the sharp Kerry forwards from the likes of Griffin. I don't know where Corey will play.
Eoin Lennon is the Monaghan John Hartson, wins a lot of midfield possesion,
a hard but fair player, you wont find him going in dirthy with his 2 knees up into the back of a taller player trying to field the ball :)
Finlay is a class act, is a lot fitter now and gives a lovely ball to the front men. Marc O'Shea on Tommy Freeman and O'Mahoney on Woods will be key battles.
I expect that Kerry will get a real contest and would be very shocked if it wasn't the case.

[paul_oshea]

geysir you never show where your allegiance lies.

Real Ale, it is very poor organisation alright. Surely it costs more for them to open up croke park with 40k as opposed to semple with nearly the same?! Still though they have a whole day of matches set for semple on saturday, and some on sunday I think as well.....

[Jerry The Saint]

Where did you see that 65,000 figure? Seriously where?


I don't believe that for a second, sounds like a pre-emptive moan. The standard method is that the other counties get what they ask for with the remainder eventually getting back to Dublin, one way or another.

I agree with Aberdonian that Dublin clubs have been left short of tickets for every single game this year. I wouldn't have a problem normally but tickets for the Leinster final went on general sale in Portlaoise and through ticketmaster before the clubs had even received their allocation (not the other way around like in other years).

http://www.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=19712

Why not wait until the clubs are sorted with tickets first - then sell whatever's left, FFS? :rolleyes:

[paul_oshea]

ya jerry, i think people should start emailing them, but the problem is it causes less hassle for them to put them on general release, and that is the main reason they do it.

[Superhoops]

geysir you never show where your allegiance lies.

Real Ale, it is very poor organisation alright. Surely it costs more for them to open up croke park with 40k as opposed to semple with nearly the same?! Still though they have a whole day of matches set for semple on saturday, and some on sunday I think as well.....

That's part of the issue. There is nothing planned for Thurles on Sunday unless there is Tipp. club games.

As I suggested earlier on it would have made more sense to schedule all three minor games, including Cork v Derry in Tullamore on Sunday or alternatively put on the Cork v Waterford replay in Thurles with the Cork v Derry minor football as the curtain raiser.

There are a lot of Kilkenny and Wexford people very unhappy that their All-Ireland semi-final has been shifted and is now playing second fiddle to the Quarter-final replay.

[noby]

Thurles on either Saturday evening, Sunday or Monday gave the GAA plenty of options for the replay.

[Superhoops]

Dubs apparently getting 65,000 tickets for the QF leaving 12,000 to divide between, Derry, Cork (MFC QF) Roscommon and Armagh (Nicky Rackard Final).

Ridiculous.

Think you will find that number is 40,000.

[geysir]

geysir you never show where your allegiance lies.
A Farneyman obviously :) a real bogman, tainted with some Kerry blood.

[ollie]

A Farneyman obviously :) a real bogman, tainted with some Kerry blood.

Tainted being the word;)

Kerry v Monaghan
Derry v Dublin
Tyrone v Meath
Cork v Sligo

One upset there but hoping for more!!!

Have the Sligo team improved much since 2005 which is the last time the sides met?
The scoreline that day was 3.13 to 0.11 though the score flattered us a bit that day to be honest

[geysir]

I thought the Connaught final was poor enough standard. I don't know how Sligo managed to win considering that in the 2nd half they missed about 10 sitters. With a bit more precision they could give Cork a good game.

It's a bit different in Munster than in Ulster. Even some Cavan people will get behind Monaghan.

[paul_oshea]

no they haven't mcguire, mcnamara and ohara are the only fellas worth worrying about. Anything good created by sligo always has ohara somewhere in the plot, so if cork limit him, then they will hammer sligo. However he is about the only player in the country that doesnt go missing in games and I dont say that lightly. The kind of player that always makes a difference.

He is a knob though, the more i have read about him since the more obvious it is and how certain sligo lads were right earlier.

[Soko]

Dubs apparently getting 65,000 tickets for the QF leaving 12,000 to divide between, Derry, Cork (MFC QF) Roscommon and Armagh (Nicky Rackard Final).

Ridiculous.



Load of rubbish. That would mean that the GAA are allocating 77,000 tickets, thats just stupid. I'm not even going to get into the ridiculous proportions you've mentioned. Is this Derrys way of getting a "us against the world" metality because it doesn't make any sense to a sane person

[Aberdonian Stu]

The two counties in a senior game always get an equal share and that is almost always less than half each (obviously never more than half).

[OneRedArmy]

Where did you see that 65,000 figure? Seriously where?

My old lad organises the tickets for our club and it's not a small club and I know we're going to be struggling ticket wise as we have with every game this season.Today's indo.

Without wanting to be a complete bitch, I'm sure you don't struggle as much distributing tickets for League matches in Parnell Park?

[OneRedArmy]

Load of rubbish. That would mean that the GAA are allocating 77,000 tickets, thats just stupid. I'm not even going to get into the ridiculous proportions you've mentioned. Is this Derrys way of getting a "us against the world" metality because it doesn't make any sense to a sane person
Tell that to the Indo.

The article says Derry will get 8,000 tickets, which is ridiculous as they brought double that to the double header QF in 2004 (Derry vs Westmeath and Dubs v Kerry), the minor and hurlers will get 5,000 between them and Dubs the rest.

Derry don't need an us against the world complex, a hill full of blonde tipped coke snorting hoods will be enough motivation ;):D

[geysir]

Tell that to the Indo.

The article says Derry will get 8,000 tickets, which is ridiculous as they brought double that to the double header QF in 2004 (Derry vs Westmeath and Dubs v Kerry), the minor and hurlers will get 5,000 between them and Dubs the rest.
Derry fans are saying that they received 10,000 tickets. Should be enough.
Their fans amongst all in Ulster are the slowest to get behind their team in numbers. Monaghan fans easily outnumbered them in Casement.

The Tickmaster allocation was sold out in 2 hours.

I am glad in one way that we got Kerry, should be plenty of returned unsold tickets:)

[bennocelt]

So my predictions are
Kerry v Monaghan
Derry v Dublin
Tyrone v Meath
Cork v Sligo

sligo are one of the worst teams i have seen in ages, dublin are all hype, meath cant be that good, and monghan havent the killer instinct

[Marked Man]

Everyone is tipping Derry? It'll make it all the sweeter. Dubs by 4.

Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Cork.

If there's to be an upset, I think it would most likely come in the Tyrone-Meath game.

[Superhoops]

Today's indo.

Without wanting to be a complete bitch, I'm sure you don't struggle as much distributing tickets for League matches in Parnell Park?

I think if you read the article in the Indo it doesn't actually say that Dublin will get 65000 tickets.

Croker sells out in record time as Dubs' fans repay GAA for quarter-final fixture By Daragh Ó Conchúir

CROKE PARK'S decision to cash in on the pulling power of Dublin footballers was rewarded yesterday when their All-Ireland quarter-final against Derry became a virtual sell-out in less than 300 seconds.

The unprecedented demand was triggered by a limited allocation of tickets going on sale at 10am through the GAA ticket office and Ticketmaster; all were snapped up within five minutes.

The remaining tickets will be distributed through the counties with Dublin County Board expecting to receive 40,000 for their clubs.

The huge rush to see the Dubs is a ringing endorsement for the fixture-makers, whose decision to give the Leinster champions a stand-alone SFC quarter-final maximises the revenue potential.

As a result, Derry are likely to face a record number of opposition fans in the Croker cauldron on Saturday week.

The day's programme includes the All-Ireland MFC quarter-final between Cork and Derry, and the Nicky Rackard Cup final involving Roscommon and Armagh.

Cork, Roscommon and Armagh would not be expected to have more than 5,000 fans in Croker between them and with just 8,000 expected to make the trip from Derry, that could see somewhere in the region of 65,000 fans cheering on the Sky Blues.

This could be a record for one team's support and is further confirmation of Dublin's importance to the GAA's coffers.

[mr.miagi]

just to say sligo have more than three decent players..they're probly in the top three in ireland when it comes to defense,mcguire and mcnamara solid down the middle....and two of the toughest corner backs you will find inireland ross donovan and charlie.....plus lads jonhy davy.his poorest game in 4 years was in the connaught final win..but in roscommon he ran riot.watch him on saturday,our forwards are brutal too say the least.if david kelly and mark brehony play well on saturday.sligo will win hands dwn....

[Jerry The Saint]

I think if you read the article in the Indo it doesn't actually say that Dublin will get 65000 tickets.

Croker sells out in record time as Dubs' fans repay GAA for quarter-final fixture By Daragh Ó Conchúir


Cork, Roscommon and Armagh would not be expected to have more than 5,000 fans in Croker between them and with just 8,000 expected to make the trip from Derry, that could see somewhere in the region of 65,000 fans cheering on the Sky Blues.

This could be a record for one team's support and is further confirmation of Dublin's importance to the GAA's coffers.[/I]

In other words, all other competing counties get as many tickets as they need with neutrals taking a chunk and Dublin fans scrapping for whatever's left over, same as it always is. Which is a far cry from...



Dubs apparently getting 65,000 tickets for the QF leaving 12,000 to divide between, Derry, Cork (MFC QF) Roscommon and Armagh (Nicky Rackard Final).

Ridiculous.

:)

[Aberdonian Stu]

Yes that 65,000 figure is just hype. And as for the Parnell Park jibe well if you can name one county that has intense demand for league tickets I'm all ears. Championship is the big show in Gaelic Games.

[Soko]

Derry don't need an us against the world complex, a hill full of blonde tipped coke snorting hoods will be enough motivation ;):D



That waste of oxygen is playing corner forward. I wish nothing but bad things for that cretin

[CollegeTillIDie]

And as for the Parnell Park jibe well if you can name one county that has intense demand for league tickets I'm all ears. Championship is the big show in Gaelic Games.

The attitude to the National League in GAA illustrates the basic problem that all sports face in this country. The Irish are a nation of event junkies. Dublin saw their attendances yo-yo from over 80,000 in the National League to 9,000 in a matter of weeks. That's a problem all major sports in this country have to cope with here. People will not go to EVERY home game, that requires commitment. And we are also a nation of commitment phobic people.
So a handful of big games a year makes you a '' supporter''..... yeah right :rolleyes:

[noby]

Hang on a sec, CTID. The league was never held in high regard by a lot of GAA followers. Things are slowly improving, but I would sooner go to an under 21 or club match than the early stages of the league. The whole GAA ethos is based on one-off knock-out matches.

[Soko]

Hang on a sec, CTID. The league was never held in high regard by a lot of GAA followers. Things are slowly improving, but I would sooner go to an under 21 or club match than the early stages of the league. The whole GAA ethos is based on one-off knock-out matches.



True, the league is an elongated practice session. I'll go to club games over league games

[superfrank]

Tommy Murphy Champions!!!!!

[Lim till i die]

Tommy Murphy Champions!!!!!

Is this seen as a good return from the much hyped Micko??

[gilberto_eire]

why wudnt it, its wicklow!!.... i never remember them evening winning a game till this yr!!

[Superhoops]

Is this seen as a good return from the much hyped Micko??

It certainly is a start. Getting out of Div.4 of the NFL is the next big priority. After that getting past the first round of next year's Leinster, depending on who they are drawn against, would be expected and getting to a Leinster S/F would be real progress.

[geysir]

Great win by Wicklow in a cracking game and what a second half. Micko is still a class act.
The Tommy Murphy final has to get a higher profile next year than a midday start gives it.

[superfrank]

Is this seen as a good return from the much hyped Micko??
It's coinsidered a good return for a team that have been one of the worst for the past few years.

[shakermaker1982]

Geez Tyrone were awful. Meath should beat Cork if Saturday is anything to go by.

[superfrank]

It certainly is a start. Getting out of Div.4 of the NFL is the next big priority. After that getting past the first round of next year's Leinster, depending on who they are drawn against, would be expected and getting to a Leinster S/F would be real progress.
And maybe an O'Byrne Cup wouldn't go astray.

I definitely think Micko will stay for the extra two years. There's been a lot of progress so far.

[ollie]

James Masters is out for the rest of the season. He's after breaking his jaw. Huge blow for Cork. Here (http://www.eveningecho.ie/pdf/back.pdf)
Meath will definitely be favourites now. I fancied us to take them until i heard of this. Still feel we might sneak it!

The only good thing from it is that Daniel Goulding should be starting now or at least should be a lot more invloved than he has been up to now. Don't know why Billy hasn't used him more. How Bernie Collins got on ahead of him the other day is mind boggling!

[Superhoops]

James Masters is out for the rest of the season. He's after breaking his jaw. Huge blow for Cork. Here (http://www.eveningecho.ie/pdf/back.pdf)
Meath will definitely be favourites now. I fancied us to take them until i heard of this. Still feel we might sneak it

Never any doubt that Meath would be favourites and hot favourites as well. They have too many big guns and a much stonger bench than Cork.

On the evidence of last Saturday what would make anyone think that Cork would beat Meath. The only danger to Meath winning is complacency and can't see Colm Coyle letting that happen. For Cork to have any chance they would have to raise their game by at least 20%, I dont think there are capable of that, and for Meath to lower their game by 20%, and I can't see that happening.

Meath to win comfortably by 6 or 7 points. At 8/11 with Paddy Power, I rate them a great bet.

[shedite]

I think every Corkman's initial reaction is that Master is too big a blow and we've no chance, but on second thoughts, the introduction of Goulding (who pretty much won the U-21 championship on his own this season) could be one of thoe bizarre sporting stories. No idea why he hasn't played more this season.

[ollie]

Meath, while they certainly have improved a huge amount, are being blown out of all proportion i think. Tyrone played quite poorly and if they were a little more clinical in front of goals they could have won it handy.

I'd imagine Canty would pick up Bray which should quieten him a bit. O connor to run the legs off Fay at full forward and Noelie to exchange pucks with Geraghty. My only worry is our corner backs who can be a bit loose. We'll at least break even at midfield with Murphy on form at the moment.

Anyways if theres one thing that will motivate a cork man besides Kerry its the Meath jersey. Playing the likes of Louth and Sligo(no offence) would hardly get you going as much playing the big guns. Meath i feel might underestimate us.

[Superhoops]

....Meath i feel might underestimate us.

Your only hope :)

[Soko]

Meath, while they certainly have improved a huge amount, are being blown out of all proportion i think. Tyrone played quite poorly and if they were a little more clinical in front of goals they could have won it handy.

I'd imagine Canty would pick up Bray which should quieten him a bit. O connor to run the legs off Fay at full forward and Noelie to exchange pucks with Geraghty. My only worry is our corner backs who can be a bit loose. We'll at least break even at midfield with Murphy on form at the moment.

Anyways if theres one thing that will motivate a cork man besides Kerry its the Meath jersey. Playing the likes of Louth and Sligo(no offence) would hardly get you going as much playing the big guns. Meath i feel might underestimate us.


I'd agree with all of that. The main reason why people think Meath will run away with it is Cork have been brutal. 3rd All Ireland semi final is a row now. Time to but in some sort of a performance now

[Monkfish]

2 Terrace tickets for Croke Park this Sunday available at face value if anyone wants them.
(Limerick v Waterford/Monaghan v Kerry)
PM me if anyones interested.

[paul_oshea]

Micko is still a class act.

40 laps lads.

[paul_oshea]

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mhcwcwsnmhmh/

[Marked Man]

I hope all you Derry tipsters stayed out of the bookies on this one.

[Magicme]

Gutted for the Monaghan team as they played a blinder. Well done to them but hard luck.

[3 Heroes]

Luimneach abu

[geysir]

As expected by those who know their football :) Kerry were going to be stretched to the extreme limits of their talent if they were to pip Monaghan.
And if they were not up to it they would have been beaten.
The gauntlet was well and truly put to Kerry when Monaghan fought back and went 2 points up after Kerry's goal. Kerry didn't panic with pumping more useless high punts to Donaghy, instead they dug deeper and put in an excellent last 10 minutes of (total) football. Just what you would expect from a class Kerry team.
Monaghan manager McEneany deserves a lot of credit for his tactical approach and the preparation of the team re mental and physical fitness.
He restored Hanratty to the right corner and the young newcomer played very well. He also nullified the effect of long ball game to Donaghy.

This defeat hurts deep.
It has taken an enormous amount of work over the past 2 or 3 years to get the team to this level of consistancy. I would be very surprised if this team are not back in the mix next August.

[shakermaker1982]

Monaghan were brilliant today. I feel for em I really do. I thought the ref was a little card friendly as well - especially towards the Monaghan team. Kerry did well to pull it out of the bag but I thought a draw would have been a fair result.