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geysir
20/10/2009, 10:43 AM
is there anything official about yellow cards being wiped out for the play offs?
So far, only Bill's word.

EalingGreen
20/10/2009, 3:27 PM
A legend - can't believe how he didn't get man of the match against Hull last night - the stand out player on the pitch!!!
Do you mean he wasn't Sky TV's MOTM?
I was at the game last night and Duff would definitely have been my pick. The regular fans appreciated him and the Official Website had him as their pick, too:
"Fulham's Republic of Ireland international received a thoroughly deserved ovasion when Roy Hodgson replaced the winger with Zoltan Gera six minutes from time. Duff was arguably the home side's Man of the Match by a clear margin, followed by the impressive Zamora and Baird"
http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/MatchCentre/Matches/0910/Premiership/HullHome.aspx

What was more impressive was that he actually played on the right of a 4-man midfield, with (the very left-footed) Clint Dempsey on the other side. Consequently, Duff was directly up against Steven Hunt (left mid for Hull), and although I like Hunt, I have to say he was given a bit of a lesson by Duff, getting subbed by Altidore on 68 mins.

It will be interesting to see where Duff plays when Simon Davies is fit again. Davies's best position is attacking down the right of midfield, so you might expect Duff to move left to replace Dempsey. That said, Dempsey is more a striker than a winger (imo), is very good in the air, and so gets his share of goals. Also their longest-serving player and popular to boot.

Either way, though, Duff must be first choice of the three, at least on present form.

P.S. If anyone's interested, I actually thought McShane wasn't bad at Right Back for Hull - much to my surprise, since I really don't rate him EPL quality. Kilbane was out of his depth at CB, though; he was playing alongside Ibrahimo Sonko who I know from Brentford and who is really a Championship level player (imo). Indeed, of the pair, Sonko was better, but in truth, they were both given a torrid time by Zamora and Kamara (a goal apiece), who themselves must be close to being the weakest strike combination in the EPL.
Incidentally, Stephen Kelly was unused on the subs bench for Fulham; I don't expect he'll play too many games other than in an injury crisis, since Pantsil is clearly nailed down at RB for Fulham.

seanfhear
20/10/2009, 3:30 PM
Thanks for the report Ealing Green.

Good to see Duff doing well. Hope he stays fit and gives the French plenty of problems.

tricky_colour
20/10/2009, 8:35 PM
Duffer with a man of the match performance against Hull tonight. Assist for the goal and tormented the Hull defence all evening. Standing ovation from the Fulham faithful. Good to see.

I watched some of that online, best I have seen him play for a long time he had some great shots on goal, the fall-out from one resulting in the goal, not surprised he was MOTM.

EastTerracer
25/10/2009, 4:04 PM
Good to see Duffer maintaining his good start at Fulham. He got their first goal today as they came back from 2-0 down to get a 2-2 draw with City.

tricky_colour
25/10/2009, 5:43 PM
I didn't see the goal, but one site said it was slotted past Given from outside the area, great to see he is on good form, Sky Sports gave him man of match but I don't know how relaiable they are!!
Also Mark Hugh "unhappy with his defenders", shame he sold his best one then :)
Stephen Ireland only a sub, so a good match from an Ireland perspective.

ofjames
26/10/2009, 10:56 AM
after joining fulham duff was 11/8 to get more than 2 goals for fulham this year. value

Donegalcelt
30/10/2009, 11:06 AM
"Duff was arguably the home side's Man of the Match by a clear margin"

the mind boggles

BigmanCas
30/10/2009, 11:21 AM
I watched some of that online, best I have seen him play for a long time he had some great shots on goal, the fall-out from one resulting in the goal, not surprised he was MOTM.


Criminally Bobby Zomora got the bubblie!!!???

DeLorean
30/10/2009, 1:21 PM
"Duff was arguably the home side's Man of the Match by a clear margin"

the mind boggles

This one kind of cunfused me too, but I suppose you could argue they meant he was definitely man of the match and arguably by a clear margin!:rolleyes:

Closed Account
31/10/2009, 3:05 PM
Off at half time, hopefully not injured........

richieos
31/10/2009, 3:07 PM
i can only assume hes injured.. i heard he was playing well and got the assist for the fulham goal.

rellik
31/10/2009, 3:08 PM
Off at half time, hopefully not injured........

The guys made of glass!

The only thing is that after Lawrence's shift the other other day it's not the end of the world.

SuperDave
31/10/2009, 3:12 PM
fook! hopefully not too serious.

tetsujin1979
31/10/2009, 3:16 PM
knock on his achilles according to Sky Sports

Razors left peg
31/10/2009, 3:18 PM
knock on his achilles according to Sky Sports

Hope its a kick and he hasnt torn something. I have an achilles problem at the moment and its taking ages to clear up. Time to get out the rosary beads

tetsujin1979
31/10/2009, 3:24 PM
hmmm, according to the text commentary on Fulham's site, it was a tactical substitution: http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/MatchCentre/Matches/0910/Premiership/LiverpoolHome.aspx

Fulham substitution: Damien Duff replaced by Erik Nevland (tactical).
Possibly grasping at straws here, no way Duff was going to be taken off unless he had to come off with the form he's in at the moment.

Closed Account
31/10/2009, 3:39 PM
Possibly grasping at straws here, no way Duff was going to be taken off unless he had to come off with the form he's in at the moment.
Tactical genius if true.

elroy
31/10/2009, 4:21 PM
hmmm, according to the text commentary on Fulham's site, it was a tactical substitution: http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/MatchCentre/Matches/0910/Premiership/LiverpoolHome.aspx

Possibly grasping at straws here, no way Duff was going to be taken off unless he had to come off with the form he's in at the moment.

Hodgson has just said on SSN that the change was forced upon them due to injury. Considering Duffs form of late I really hope this will not keep him out of the play off.

tetsujin1979
31/10/2009, 4:46 PM
Just reported on Today FM that Duff is in no danger of missing the play offs

paul_oshea
31/10/2009, 4:53 PM
Yet! what about next weekend!

geysir
31/10/2009, 5:00 PM
We can never relax Paul

tricky_colour
31/10/2009, 5:04 PM
Tactical genius if true.


Was listening to the matched being talked about on the radio, and talk regarding tactical genius revolved around the 'tactical ungenius' of Benetiz taking Torres off 15 minutes later.
The comment on Sky Sports is "Half-time exit due to injury".

Crosby87
31/10/2009, 6:26 PM
So which was it injury or not?

Razors left peg
31/10/2009, 6:35 PM
So which was it injury or not?

it was injury but doesnt sound serious one

Crosby87
31/10/2009, 7:51 PM
it was injury but doesnt sound serious one

Well thats good I suppose.
I guess the best we can hope for with him is that when he gets hurt every other week, its not too serious...

twoenz
01/11/2009, 2:16 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8336700.stm


This article is a little worrying then. It's an ongoing thing, so if we can get him through the playoffs and then he can miss a while and come back in time for the World Cup.

Razors left peg
01/11/2009, 2:25 PM
"It is very hard stopping Damien playing for the Republic of Ireland. You have to lock him in a cage," added the Fulham boss.

when we have players with that sort of attitude we are always in with a chance of qualifying

brine3
01/11/2009, 2:42 PM
From RTE:


Damien Duff is likely to be fit for the Republic of Ireland's World Cup play-off with France according to the winger's club boss Roy Hodgson.

Fulham manager Hodgson revealed on Saturday that Duff was substituted at half-time in their win over Liverpool because of a troublesome Achilles injury.

Hodgson is quoted on the BBC Sport website saying: 'It is very hard stopping Damien playing for the Republic of Ireland. You have to lock him in a cage.

'It is an injury he has struggling with for a while, it stems from his Achilles although it's a little bit more complicated than that.

The Finn confirmed that Duff will play no part in the Europa League game with Roma on Thursday, but that he may be fit for Premier League action next weekend and that if 'he's fit for next Sunday then there's no reason why he shouldn't play for the Republic.'

Hmmm... I think they mean former Finland manager...

Junior
01/11/2009, 3:11 PM
If hes not fit for next Sunday does that mean he wont be available for us....ermmm I think I could be a sports journalist.

irishultra
01/11/2009, 3:31 PM
From RTE:



Hmmm... I think they mean former Finland manager...

Perhaps matti vanhanen gave him citizenship:rolleyes:

Stuttgart88
01/11/2009, 4:16 PM
Given Hodgson's CV and affinity with the international scene it's hard to see him playing silly buggers over Duff's availability.

EastTerracer
01/11/2009, 4:25 PM
If hes not fit for next Sunday does that mean he wont be available for us....ermmm I think I could be a sports journalist.

The rules on this have changed over the years (it was a practice more than a rule anyway). Even if a player does not play the preceding club game the FAI would have every right to bring the player over to Dublin and assess his fitness. It probably wouldn't make the club manager too happy but there is very little he could do about it.

rambler14
01/11/2009, 5:35 PM
If Duff isn't fit then Andy Reid MUST be called up!

paul_oshea
01/11/2009, 5:44 PM
Ok then.

Junior
01/11/2009, 5:48 PM
Given Hodgson's CV and affinity with the international scene it's hard to see him playing silly buggers over Duff's availability.


The rules on this have changed over the years (it was a practice more than a rule anyway). Even if a player does not play the preceding club game the FAI would have every right to bring the player over to Dublin and assess his fitness. It probably wouldn't make the club manager too happy but there is very little he could do about it.

Yes, I was just playing silly buggers. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if a story was made on twisting Hodgsons words a little.

Hodgson is a great manager and man. No question that he would not be standing in Duffs way.

SuperDave
01/11/2009, 6:56 PM
If Duff isn't fit then Andy Reid MUST be called up!

Is there a need to turn every thread into another Andy Reid discussion forum? The arguments are well known and the Andy Reid thread is comprehensive enough as it is.

Noelys Guitar
04/11/2009, 10:05 PM
Not playing on Saturday for Fulham. Hodgson just said he is still injured. Very bad news.

Greenbod
04/11/2009, 10:24 PM
Is there a need to turn every thread into another Andy Reid discussion forum?

It's not a discussion, until there's a second post on the topic. Well done...you turned it into a discussion.

Jicked
04/11/2009, 10:27 PM
Not playing on Saturday for Fulham. Hodgson just said he is still injured. Very bad news.

To be honeset at this stage with Duff I'd take my chances with this injury healing up in a week than a supposedly fit Duff playing the next two games for Fulham and expecting him not to pick up a knock.

OwenGoal
04/11/2009, 10:47 PM
Not playing on Saturday for Fulham. Hodgson just said he is still injured. Very bad news.

Where did you get this from? Here's what RH says on the Fulham website:

“There’s not much chance of Andy Johnson and Danny Murphy being fit for the weekend game," revealed Hodgson. "We’re hoping Damien Duff will be available for the game on Sunday.

That's dated 4/11

Crosby87
04/11/2009, 11:23 PM
To be honest at this stage with Duff I'd take my chances with this injury healing up in a week than a supposedly fit Duff playing the next two games for Fulham and expecting him not to pick up a knock.


Totally. This could end up being GOOD news. Right now he has 9 more days to heal/not get injured.

I would actually go as far as to say he should not walk down any stairs, eat fish or copulate, or stare any buffalo he comes across in the eye as this makes them aggressive and prone to charging.
It should be a forgone conclusion that not playing, practicing with, watching practice (the odd ball floating into the stands could hit him in the head if he is not paying attention), or eating with the lads (the odd piece of silverware could become dislodged from someones hand and fly into his sternum) for Fulham would be a good thing for us and him....

He just needs to somehow make it to next saturday and although I am concerned his flight to Dublin could pose problems (the odd plane crash could easily cause a broken ankle) I am happy I dont have to worry about him tearing his ACL/MCL/PCL this weekend while walking under a ladder and slipping on a black cat on the way to the game......

geysir
04/11/2009, 11:40 PM
Where did you get this from? Here's what RH says on the Fulham website:

“There’s not much chance of Andy Johnson and Danny Murphy being fit for the weekend game," revealed Hodgson. "We’re hoping Damien Duff will be available for the game on Sunday.

That's dated 4/11
Noely is repeating the news reported on rte.ie.
Other more positive news is always welcome though:)

honeymonster
05/11/2009, 11:05 AM
Fears over Damien Duff's availability for the Republic of Ireland's World Cup play-off against France have increased:(

Fulham manager Roy Hodgson has said that he expects injured Duff to miss Sunday's Barclays Premier League game against Wigan.

Duff has an Achilles injury and now appears to be a major doubt for the 14 November opener at Croke Park with the second leg in Paris four days later.

Speaking last weekend, Hodgson had appeared more optimistic about Duff's chances of being available for the World Cup play-off.

"It is very hard stopping Damien playing for the Republic of Ireland. You have to lock him in a cage," added the Fulham boss after Duff came off during the win over Liverpool.

"It's an injury he has been struggling with for a while.

"It stems from his Achilles, although it's a little bit more complicated than that.

"There is no way I would even consider him for Roma. I will ask the medical staff to take as long as they need to try to get him back into shape as quickly as they can.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8343985.stm

DeLorean
05/11/2009, 11:12 AM
It could be worse. I certainly don't dread the possibility of McGeady on his favoured left side and Lawrence on the right (as against Italy). Ideally I would want Duff available though obviously.

lionelhutz
05/11/2009, 11:16 AM
It'll be a huge blow if he misses out. He's been excellent for us almost every time he puts on the green jersey. And he always seems to conjure something special - be it the run against Cyprus at home, the cross against Cyprus away, winning free kicks that lead to goals...the list goes on.

And when you look at the possible replacements - Lawrence and Hunt - it makes you realise how much of a loss he is. Yes Lawrence and Hunt are decent players, but they're no where near the class of Duff.

DeLorean
05/11/2009, 11:18 AM
True enough but at least we've more cover than other positions. He does win an amount of frees in fairness though and that is probably our best chance of getting a goal.

paul_oshea
05/11/2009, 11:25 AM
we need him for home more so than away i reckon, we need to be creative at home and try and nick a 1 - 0 win, duffer is instrumental in creating chances and opening up the defence, and more importantly his crosses are by far the most accurate and dangerous on the team, the french are poor defending crosses and set pieces and duff could really create problems for them.

I would be content with him not playing the second if we dont need to chase a goal from the off, but obviouslly he is more likely to be ready for the wednesday as oppossed to the saturday game. 3-4 days can make a big difference but if he isn't deemed fit for saturday then tehy wont call him up at all....

lionelhutz
05/11/2009, 11:49 AM
I know what you mean Paul but then again I think he could be essential in the second leg if we need to hold possession and keep a lead. In the second half in Bulgaria when we were under pressure Duff seemed like the only player keeping a cool head in possession and either finding a green shirt or winning a free.

Scram
05/11/2009, 12:33 PM
Fears over Damien Duff's availability for the Republic of Ireland's World Cup play-off against France have increased:(

Fulham manager Roy Hodgson has said that he expects injured Duff to miss Sunday's Barclays Premier League game against Wigan.

Duff has an Achilles injury and now appears to be a major doubt for the 14 November opener at Croke Park with the second leg in Paris four days later.

Speaking last weekend, Hodgson had appeared more optimistic about Duff's chances of being available for the World Cup play-off.

"It is very hard stopping Damien playing for the Republic of Ireland. You have to lock him in a cage," added the Fulham boss after Duff came off during the win over Liverpool.

"It's an injury he has been struggling with for a while.

"It stems from his Achilles, although it's a little bit more complicated than that.

"There is no way I would even consider him for Roma. I will ask the medical staff to take as long as they need to try to get him back into shape as quickly as they can.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8343985.stm

I can't beleive this :(

But, McGeady on the left, Hunt on the right, who knows?!