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Yeah you could see it when he was with Waterford too, just nobody watched....
He was good but not great at Waterford. Was certainly not in the team of the season but probably largely because of who he played with.
half_full
28/04/2007, 4:20 PM
from what ive seen of him with sunderland he hasnt got that much better, people are just taking notice now
great to see him doing well, allbiet with sunderland
Schumi
28/04/2007, 6:40 PM
He was good but not great at Waterford. Was certainly not in the team of the season but probably largely because of who he played with.He never really stood out to me when he was with Waterford either, but maybe I didn't see the best of him. I was surprised when he moved to Sunderland but he seems to be doing OK there now.
zinedineontour
29/04/2007, 5:34 PM
Had a very good game on friday but thats the problem with murph hes far too inconsistent and looks quite lazy at times .. Really hope he comes good though cause on his day like he was on friday he is a real handfull
Stuttgart88
30/04/2007, 7:42 AM
This current Irish squad with Colin Doyle coming through just keeps getting better and better.Andy Keeee-oh is looking the part too. This US trip ould be interesting for some of these guys.
Also, worth noting that Stephen Kelly has been playing left bcak for the last month or so (or at least that's where his name appears in the team line-ups).
brine3
30/04/2007, 4:53 PM
Andy Keeee-oh is looking the part too. This US trip ould be interesting for some of these guys.
Also, worth noting that Stephen Kelly has been playing left bcak for the last month or so (or at least that's where his name appears in the team line-ups).
[stan logic]
Great, Kelly can back up Finnan at left back!
[/stan logic]
Was just wondering what every ones opinions of him? I dont rate him at all what does he offer the team. He's meant to hold the ball up but i have never seen him do it he has no pace and very rearly scores so why is he in the Ireland squad. I would love to know what goes through stans head when he is picking squads.
dr_peepee
10/09/2007, 8:20 PM
I think he's alright.. But he's had a slow start to the season. He has some nice touches and idea's but can seem a bit soft for somone his size..
He plays like someone a bit younger than he actually is, if you know what I mean.
rambler14
10/09/2007, 8:43 PM
Average
ofjames
10/09/2007, 8:56 PM
i think he has all the attributes to be a good striker, given his height and physical stature. Although he's no olympic sprinter, he's not a snail either, he's got decent pace.
Also, his relatively poor goalscoring record at Sunderland can be explained by the fact he played most of his football there from the left wing (which also shows he has decent pace, wouldnt have survived on the wing without it!)
Although it is clear that he hasnt hit the ground running in the premiership, I'd be reluctant to write him off just yet. I think he may come good in the end. From my experience of watching Sunderland over the past year or so, he appears a better bet than Stokes anyway.
I think Stan's decision is based on the following line of thinking, He wants a physical, "bigman" striker in the squad, and he reckons that Alan Lee will never be quite good enough for international football. I reckon he feels that Murphy is in and around the same level as Lee at this moment in time, but has greater potential to develop into a better player in the future, and thats why he includes him in the squad. (Also he was really good on the US tour)
Noelys Guitar
10/09/2007, 9:03 PM
He looked good last year the few times I saw him. But this season he has looked off the pace and lightweight. Would have prefered to have seen Keogh brought on against the Slovaks. He puts himself about and wins an incredible amount of ball in the air.
rambler14
10/09/2007, 9:33 PM
Indeed. Keogh has enormous potential.
Kivlehan
10/09/2007, 9:35 PM
Although it is clear that he hasnt hit the ground running in the premiership, I'd be reluctant to write him off just yet. I think he may come good in the end. From my experience of watching Sunderland over the past year or so, he appears a better bet than Stokes anyway.
Stokes has looked much better this season than Murphy for Sunderland.
rambler14
10/09/2007, 9:38 PM
Stokes the ref in the eircom league or Anthony Stokes. Have u been watching Anthony this season or have u been watchin tapes of him last seson up at Falkirk because Stokes is crap really really crap. He should go back up to Scotland where he can score goals, hes only scored twice for Sunderland. I don't think he'll last at Sunderland, he seems to have an ego problem.
ofjames
10/09/2007, 9:55 PM
Murphy has gone as far as he will ever go. Keogh will be in the Premiership next year, one way or another.
Indeed. Keogh has enormous potential.
Lads, you have to qualify these statements with the important caveat: "never before played in the premiership"!
Murphy looked a really good player in the Championship as well, and if he were still in the Championship, he would still stand out as a quality performer at that level. The fact is the Premiership is an enormous step up, no guarantees Keogh would adjust to the Premier any better or quicker than Murph has this season.
Stokes was OK when he came on against Liverpool. All his other appearances this season have been dreadful affairs. Murphy has a far better attitute.
Noelys Guitar
10/09/2007, 9:58 PM
Lads, you have to qualify these statements with the important caveat: "never before played in the premiership"!
Murphy looked a really good player in the Championship as well, and if he were still in the Championship, he would still stand out as a quality performer at that level. The fact is the Premiership is an enormous step up, no guarantees Keogh would adjust to the Premier any better or quicker than Murph has this season.
Good point. But I feel that Keogh would have done a better job on Saturday because of his style of play.
Kivlehan
10/09/2007, 10:57 PM
Stokes the ref in the eircom league or Anthony Stokes. Have u been watching Anthony this season or have u been watchin tapes of him last seson up at Falkirk because Stokes is crap really really crap. He should go back up to Scotland where he can score goals, hes only scored twice for Sunderland. I don't think he'll last at Sunderland, he seems to have an ego problem.
I've watched every Sunderland match except Luton this season. Stokes looks far better than Murphy. Go ask them on the SMB over at readytogo.net All but a few tards who have it in for Stokes will tell you he's looked far better than Murphy.
dr_peepee
11/09/2007, 2:41 AM
All but a few tards who have it in for Stokes will tell you he's looked far better than Murphy.
An overstatement to say the least. Aside from a couple of nice things during the Liverpool match he's been a disapointment this season and in preseason.. He has been played out of position admittedly, but he has not been much better than Murphy.
theworm2345
11/09/2007, 3:27 AM
Murphy has gone as far as he will ever go. Keogh will be in the Premiership next year, one way or another.
Based on what? He has 0 league goals this season :confused:. I'm all for Keogh, but he hasn't dont it this year just the same as Murphy
Stuttgart88
11/09/2007, 7:41 AM
Andy Keogh King of the Assists was the title of a recent atricle on BBC's website.
Murphy has some good things going for him but I'm not convinved he'll go much further either. He needs to make a breakthrough still.
On the face of it having a lot of young Irish at one club is a good thing, but not if they're struggling and being played out of position. I personally wish Stokes had taken Celtic's offer. The 2 senior strikers, Venegoor of Hesselink and Zurawski, are sub-standard and sluggish in my opinion and Stokes would have displaced either of them. He'd have had game time against soft opposition to get his confidence up, games against physical teams that'd toughen him up, as well as games against superior opposition in Europe. Then, when he's a success he could have gone to the Premiership.
It's early days yet I suppose as the season has barely started. The early signs though are that Robbie & Doyle are a country mile ahead of the rest while Keogh has been the only of the others to do anything. Alan Lee has started the season quite well.
SwanVsDalton
11/09/2007, 8:05 AM
In fairness, it's widely agreed that Murphy has been more impressive than Keogh when called upon for Ireland, such as in the US tour.
Besides no matter who came on against Slovakia, they wouldn't have made a difference at that point. Though I agree Keogh should be in the 18 for Wednesday.
Tenderloins
07/12/2007, 9:14 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=500184&in_page_id=1779
Drumcondra 69er
07/12/2007, 9:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=500184&in_page_id=1779
Amazed if they get that for him. Has he improved to the tune of £1.9m in 2 and a half years?
youngirish
07/12/2007, 9:36 AM
Amazed if they get that for him. Has he improved to the tune of £1.9m in 2 and a half years?
I see Gavin Mahon is part of the deal. A player touted on here a season ago by many as an answer to our midfield problems. He's not even an answer to QPR's midfield problems.
citizenerased
07/12/2007, 9:45 AM
Murphy is championship player at best...good business at 2m for sunderland
paul_oshea
07/12/2007, 9:57 AM
well see, QPR are loaded now :D
gustavo
07/12/2007, 10:35 AM
I hope theres a few quid in it for Waterford United.
Deckydee
07/12/2007, 11:24 AM
As a QPR fan of 15 years, I can tell you that nobody is happy. A lot of us are saying that it is about 250,000 now up front and then the rest if he shows to be a success in the future.
We may have plenty of cash but this is no way to spend it.
Will be delighted to see a ROI player on the team again though. At the moment we only have Martin Rowlands and he has not played since the time of Kerr. Once we had Dominic Foley on loan, but he fired a lot of blanks
ifk101
07/12/2007, 11:51 AM
As a QPR fan of 15 years ....
:D:D:D
Deckydee
07/12/2007, 12:05 PM
Oi! I can read you know!!! :D
If it wasnt for QPR, then who would you thank for John Byrne?
Eh? Eh? What do you say now!!
;)
ifk101
07/12/2007, 12:12 PM
Oi! I can read you know!!! :D
If it wasnt for QPR, then who would you thank for John Byrne?
Eh? Eh? What do you say now!!
;)
That's very true Deekydee. As of now, well since two minutes ago, I'm a lifetime supporter of QPR.
Onwards and upwards!
Wolfie
07/12/2007, 12:13 PM
If it wasnt for QPR, then who would you thank for John Byrne?
;)
....................or Don Givens for that matter.
macdermesser
07/12/2007, 12:13 PM
Oi! I can read you know!!! :D
If it wasnt for QPR, then who would you thank for John Byrne?
Eh? Eh? What do you say now!!
;)
You mean scoring those two away goals against Turkey that qualified us for Euro 92 ... d'oh !! ... he was brilliant at that time .. except he played for ironically enough Sunderland then. Was one of my favourite players in his day.
jbyrne
07/12/2007, 12:18 PM
Was one of my favourite players in his day.
me too. went on that run of a goal in every round of the FA cup before losing 2 nil to liverpool in the final. always gave his all to the cause
Stuttgart88
07/12/2007, 12:31 PM
I thought you were John Byrne?
Great player, shame he missed a sitter in the '92 FA Cup Final. He could have been only the second player to score in every round from 3rd round onwards.
Tenderloins
07/12/2007, 12:56 PM
Gary Waddock, Michael Robinson and Paul McGee would be a few other ex Irish Internationals that had decent spells at QPR.
Sure weren't QPR sponsored by Guinness for years too!
Superhoops
07/12/2007, 1:38 PM
Gary Waddock, Michael Robinson and Paul McGee would be a few other ex Irish Internationals that had decent spells at QPR.
Sure weren't QPR sponsored by Guinness for years too!
Not forgetting the great Terry Mancini :D
Drumcondra 69er
07/12/2007, 1:43 PM
Not forgetting the great Terry Mancini :D
"That Polish anthem doesn't half go on" :D:D
gspain
07/12/2007, 2:47 PM
"That Polish anthem doesn't half go on" :D:D
That is actually most likely an urban myth. Terry Mancini never played in Moscow, Prague or Poland or anywhere in Eastern Europe for Ireland.
It can join
1) Germans wear green shirts because we were the first country to play them after the war
2) Panathanaikos were founded by Irishmen
3) Socrates played for UCD
4) FAI officials sang "you can stick your GAA up your arse" on the plane home from Belfast in 1993.
Drumcondra 69er
07/12/2007, 2:51 PM
That is actually most likely an urban myth. Terry Mancini never played in Moscow, Prague or Poland or anywhere in Eastern Europe for Ireland.
It can join
1) Germans wear green shirts because we were the first country to play them after the war
2) Panathanaikos were founded by Irishmen
3) Socrates played for UCD
4) FAI officials sang "you can stick your GAA up your arse" on the plane home from Belfast in 1993.
It was a home game against Poland and it was his debut.
SaucyJack
07/12/2007, 4:03 PM
2 million for Daryl Murphy is pretty insane, loan them Stokes.
OwlsFan
07/12/2007, 4:54 PM
It was a home game against Poland and it was his debut.
I remember Terry Mancini saying after the game that he was a bit shocked by the fans being able to shout comments in to the dressing room through the cracks and holes in the dressing room windows.
I was at that game :o Not one of the shouters through the window though. Under the shed at the school end was my usual position.
blackholesun
07/12/2007, 4:57 PM
That is actually most likely an urban myth. Terry Mancini never played in Moscow, Prague or Poland or anywhere in Eastern Europe for Ireland.
It can join
1) Germans wear green shirts because we were the first country to play them after the war
2) Panathanaikos were founded by Irishmen
3) Socrates played for UCD
4) FAI officials sang "you can stick your GAA up your arse" on the plane home from Belfast in 1993.
dont forget the auld Tipperary / Boca Juniors "connection" either
;-)
bhs
gspain
07/12/2007, 8:19 PM
It was a home game against Poland and it was his debut.
That is very unlikely.
The normal version of the story has the original long version of AnbF played including the first verse. This would also have been played first as it would be the away anthem.
For a home game the normal short version of the anthem would have been played. Ours would have been played 2nd and it is obvious with the crowd etc that it is our anthem.
The story has too many variations and doesn't add up. I firmly believe it is an urban myth.
geysir
07/12/2007, 8:45 PM
Once thought to be apocryphal but the horse himself has opened his mouth on the "incident".
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2005/07/23/story130119760.asp
The man himself takes up the story: “It was a great honour to be selected and I lined up on the side of the pitch, desperate to get playing. All the pre-match ceremony seemed to go on forever, and then the music started playing and it went on and on, and I turned to Don Givens and said, ‘for f**k’s sake, their national anthem goes on a bit’ and he said, ‘that’s ours, Terry’. I didn’t have a clue!”
I´d guess one anthem blended into the other without the Garda Band pausing for breath
kingdom hoop
08/12/2007, 12:58 PM
As a QPR fan of 15 years....
Snap! :) :)
Nice to have some company here now. Together, we must battle the army of Wednesdayites. (there's a thread in the World Football section on the Championship)
£2 million does seem extreme. But hey, we're rolling in the cash now so who cares. :p Those in the know say it's 60/40 ish - hopefully that means you just have to pay 60% of the publicised price! I think the competition for his signature (Mick is a big fan isn't he?) is what'll ultimately drive the price up - Leicester are rumoured as well. Keane is playing it smart in saying there are a few sniffing around. I think Murphy has good potential, he needs plenty of games though I feel, so I'm not sure the timing of this transfer is at all ideal. If we were mid-table no problem, but he's not the type of player you want coming in for a relegation scrap, as things are looking at the moment. From a QPR perspective I would've preferred Connolly for about half the price - proven goalscorer at the required level. Still, I'll proudly trumpet any Irish player who joins, and don the hoops with evermore pride!!
fergalr
08/12/2007, 3:47 PM
http://qprreport.blogspot.com/2007/12/update-sunderlands-roy-keane-on-daryl.html
Part of the first team tomorrow. Looks like Daryl isn't going anywhere. ¬_¬
Came on as sub for Sunderland today.
dr_peepee
08/12/2007, 5:07 PM
I see Gavin Mahon is part of the deal. A player touted on here a season ago by many as an answer to our midfield problems. He's not even an answer to QPR's midfield problems.
Is he not with Watford???
theworm2345
08/12/2007, 5:49 PM
I've heard Julio Arca --> Sunderland, David Connolly --> Middlesbrough in a straight swap. Good move IMO since the manager wont give him a chance
eirebhoy
08/12/2007, 5:57 PM
Crazy rumour mate. Arca's worth about £5m. Connolly's worth a few hundred grand.
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