Daryl Murphy

[Charlie Darwin]

O'Connor plays for Waterford now. Probably only in the last year or so starting to show the promise he had then, but probably won't even be a top LOI Premier player at this point.

[DannyInvincible]

"Rafa Benitez explains why Daryl Murphy is a 'calming' influence for his Newcastle team-mates": http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-explains-daryl-murphy-12928131

[DannyInvincible]

'Newcastle’s Daryl Murphy gives interview back home in Ireland about a dramatic 9 months': http://www.themag.co.uk/2017/05/newcastles-daryl-murphy-gives-interview-back-home-ireland-dramatic-9-months-newcastle-united-ipswich-town/#.WSNt4_EIEwh.facebook

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

What's the consensus on Daryl's prospects of staying with Newcastle next season?

I think they are marginal, but, I personally think he could be a worthwhile plan b for them.

[zero]

What's the consensus on Daryl's prospects of staying with Newcastle next season?

I think they are marginal, but, I personally think he could be a worthwhile plan b for them.

i expect he will be kept on. newcastle have some money to spend but not a vast amount. they are currently trying to bring in tammy abraham on loan but he will be there to compete with dwight gayle / cover him if injured. mitrovic and murphy offer something different.

i would say that he will be there until christmas and if not getting any game time at all could be loaned out to a championship club for the remainder of the season (and his contract, which expires in june 2018).

[DeLorean]

Rafa Benitez was in Dublin yesterday and spoke about his Irish contingent at Newcastle, as well as the prospect of trying to sign James McCarthy (or not) - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/irelands-daryl-murphy-set-to-leave-newcastle-455152.html

Edit - I see elsewhere that Newcastle and Crystal Palace are interested in West Ham's Adrian, which could have knock-on consequences for both Elliot & Randolph. - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-crystal-palace-adrian-move-10822943

[DeLorean]

Looks like Murphy is going to Nottingham Forest for around £2m - http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-close-2m-capture-218933

[Olé Olé]

Another goal for Murphy. Nabs an equalizer away to Barnsley.

[Fixer82]

Good to see him score regularly with upcoming qualifiers.
Though the Newcastle move was, no doubt, financially good for him I felt he was a bit short-changed as he rarely started but still managed to score when called upon. Then was let go as soon as they were promoted.

[CraftyToePoke]

He couldn't have done much more you are right.

[DannyInvincible]

Video of Murphy's goal for Forest against Aston Villa: https://streamable.com/13lo0

Good finish.

[zero]

Another goal tonight at home vs Fulham. Arguably earnt a starting spot, especially with Walters out?

[Olé Olé]

McGoldrick with a goal too...

[DeLorean]

Another goal tonight at home vs Fulham. Arguably earnt a starting spot, especially with Walters out?

I would think so. Even if he wasn't playing well he'd be the natural replacement in O'Neill's eyes you would think. He seems to be getting closer to his Ipswich form from three years ago. Good move for him even if Forest themselves don't look like doing too much.

[samhaydenjr]

Probably not a massive surprise, Daryl Murphy has called time on his international career: https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/im-34-and-at-that-age-i-see-no-sense-in-carrying-on-daryl-murphy-retires-from-international-football-36536470.html - With Doyle already gone and Walters likely to follow, I guess we should be really thankful that Maguire seems to have made the grade, that Hogan has come on board and has rediscovered his form and that O'Brien is starting to score more at Championship level

[Olé Olé]

Probably not a massive surprise, Daryl Murphy has called time on his international career: https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/im-34-and-at-that-age-i-see-no-sense-in-carrying-on-daryl-murphy-retires-from-international-football-36536470.html - With Doyle already gone and Walters likely to follow, I guess we should be really thankful that Maguire seems to have made the grade, that Hogan has come on board and has rediscovered his form and that O'Brien is starting to score more at Championship level

The issue for MON is that none of the 3 you have mentnioned there have the physicality to offer what Murphy offered. All are a few inches shy of 6 foot. Maybe Martin will re-discover Cillian Sheridan's phone number for March.

[samhaydenjr]

The issue for MON is that none of the 3 you have mentnioned there have the physicality to offer what Murphy offered. All are a few inches shy of 6 foot. Maybe Martin will re-discover Cillian Sheridan's phone number for March.

Actually Hogan is 5'11", according to his Wikipedia page, an inch shorter than Walters. And if our tactics over the last few years were predicated on the abilities and limitations of our players, shouldn't our tactics change if there is a change in these abilities and limitations - to fit a forward line that is less physical but more mobile? Six or seven months ago we were fearing that Cillian Sheridan would have to be one of our short-term options and hoping against hope that he would tear up the Polish First Division (he hasn't). So now three definite options have emerged (with two other potentials) at Premier League and Championship level and we're going to ignore them or have room for only one? Hopefully not.

[Olé Olé]

My point was that's an issue for MON- not me. He seemed to default to the physical option. And I think Walters has a leap and style that makes him a physical handful for the bigger defenders even.

[irishfan86]

You can still play direct without a target man if your forwards have pace -- instead of balls lobbed up toward your target men to hold up the ball or flick it on, you send balls down the channels for forwards to latch on to it and cut it back toward the middle.

A guy like Long is ideally suited to that role of chasing balls into corners.

Requires playing 4-4-2 though which is out of style and may leave us vulnerable in midfield.

[OwlsFan]

Murphy's career is interesting. Pretty much from a scoring point of view three great years at Ipswich where everything he hit found the back of the net. For the rest his strike is from poor to average. His first few appearances in an Irish shirt under MON were embarrassing where his control and first touch were terrible and the game passed him by. However, to be fair to him I thought his confidence grew and the goal against Serbia was special and he was a deserving member of the squad. I have heard some people say he was not "international class" but international football is by and large weaker than club football from the top tiers. If you look at the mid-ranking countries most of their players are drawn from the average club sides and many from lower divisions. I didn't rate Murphy AT ALL when he first turned out for us but latterly he did a job for us and will be missed.

[geysir]

Murphy's career is interesting. Pretty much from a scoring point of view three great years at Ipswich where everything he hit found the back of the net. For the rest his strike is from poor to average. His first few appearances in an Irish shirt under MON were embarrassing where his control and first touch were terrible and the game passed him by. However, to be fair to him I thought his confidence grew and the goal against Serbia was special and he was a deserving member of the squad. I have heard some people say he was not "international class" but international football is by and large weaker than club football from the top tiers. If you look at the mid-ranking countries most of their players are drawn from the average club sides and many from lower divisions. I didn't rate Murphy AT ALL when he first turned out for us but latterly he did a job for us and will be missed.
You're selling him a bit short. Celtic did not turn out to be a good club for him, he matured late, took 2 seasons at Ipswich to find his real worth in his last 3 seasons there. Since Ipswich, with Newcastle and Nottm Forest he has maintained that very good goal to game ratio.

[Olé Olé]

He was 27 when he joined Celtic and was often played on the wing for Sunderland prior to that. He probably was a late developer.

I just realised he will turn 35 in March. It actually is the best time possible for him (and probably the others which we know are imminent) to retire. He would be just shy of 36 for the kick off of the next qualifying campaign.

[DeLorean]

I have heard some people say he was not "international class" but international football is by and large weaker than club football from the top tiers. If you look at the mid-ranking countries most of their players are drawn from the average club sides and many from lower divisions. I didn't rate Murphy AT ALL when he first turned out for us but latterly he did a job for us and will be missed.

It's a pretty loose term alright but I would consider every team in our group from the last campaign (bar Moldova) to be well ahead of any team you'd find in the Championship, where Murphy played his most productive football. So in that sense, it was definitely a step up for him.

I like Murphy but I don't think he'll be a loss really. One less battering ram option could be a good thing in fact, maybe force a change of approach. He was never really a handful in the same way that Walters was at his best. I'm happy for him that he scored a couple of important goals for us before signing off though.

[Charlie Darwin]

I hate to break it to you DeLo but one less battering ram isn't going to change our approach. It will merely change the urgency of our approach to unearthing another battering ram.

[CraftyToePoke]

I hate to break it to you DeLo but one less battering ram isn't going to change our approach. It will merely change the urgency of our approach to unearthing another battering ram.

Probably something in that, O'Brien over McGoldrick in recent times points toward it anyway. I realise McGoldrick is taller but O'Brien more in the Walters / Murphy mould of player maybe.

[Charlie Darwin]

O'Brien has bulked up a lot over the past two years I think. I think he'd be more in the Long mould overall but probably would be expected to stand in one place like Murphy and Walters for Ireland.

[DeLorean]

I hate to break it to you DeLo but one less battering ram isn't going to change our approach. It will merely change the urgency of our approach to unearthing another battering ram.

Yeah that was in the back of my mind as I was typing, but I'm not sure we have another battering ram that could be justified by O'Neill as being anywhere near the required standard. Walters might stay on though. Not having one probably won't stop us pumping it up to Long or Maguire or whoever though!

[geysir]

O'Neill's first preference was to have a type of football where Murphy was deemed more suited to and selected ahead of Long for both play-off games.
It's a sure sign of the current levels of desperation that a hope for O'Neill to change his (evil) ways would depend upon him (his back to the wall) being forced through retirements to look elsewhere for options, which might (just might) be talented enough to such a degree that it would effect a revolution in the way the game is played under O'Neill.
And even if one does hold that hope, it only lasts for a mere moment or two as the light fades rapidly away from it.

[Stuttgart88]

Funny thing is, despite his shape and size Murphy was utterly brutal as a lone forward / hold up man / target man. The ball never stuck even on those occasions he got to it.

The side angle TV replay of McClean failing to see an unmarked Murphy six yards out when 2-1 down in Lyon will haunt me forever!

[OwlsFan]

The side angle TV replay of McClean failing to see an unmarked Murphy six yards out when 2-1 down in Lyon will haunt me forever!

As much as Houghton's one on one with the English keeper in Wembley ?

[DeLorean]

The side angle TV replay of McClean failing to see an unmarked Murphy six yards out when 2-1 down in Lyon will haunt me forever!

God yeah, hard to believe somebody forged a professional career as a left winger and failed to spot that simple pass. I'll comfort myself with the assumption that we would probably still have lost (compared to, say, Ray Houghton at Wembley).

Edit- Ha! Hadn't actually seen OwlFan's post.

On a similar note, McClean's chance to make it 2-0 against Denmark could have seriously altered the course of history also.

[geysir]

It's a bit of a blur but didn't that chance (that McClean scuppered) happen at 1-0? and wasn't there some other late in the game chance that we had to equalise, albeit marginally against the run of play.

[DeLorean]

McClean played a decent ball across that Lloris got a hand on as well, that might have been at 1-0. The one Stutts is talking about happened directly after conceding I think, so either at 1-1 or 1-2, but I would have thought 1-2. Or it might have even happened right after Duffy's red card, it was a pretty frantic 10-15 minutes!

[jbyrne]

McClean played a decent ball across that Lloris got a hand on as well, that might have been at 1-0. The one Stutts is talking about happened directly after conceding I think, so either at 1-1 or 1-2, but I would have thought 1-2. Or it might have even happened right after Duffy's red card, it was a pretty frantic 10-15 minutes!

Long was standing at the back post for the one Lloris got a hand to. if he hadn't it was a sure goal from long

[DeLorean]

Story of Long's career :D

[geysir]

I still think this is the effort Stutts was referring to, because in another tv replay angle you could see that Murphy was perfectly placed to receive the pass and slot the ball neatly into the net. Long was covered by the keeper.
Murphy did well in that game even if denied immortality by McClean.

[DeLorean]

This is the one where McClean did well - https://youtu.be/ijIrU0rx5qQ?t=6m45s

The other one (that Stutts is referring to) isn't included in that highlights package but basically McClean managed to get in behind, but tried to cut it back when all he needed to do was roll it straight across the goal.

P.S. Why are so many YouTube videos I watch zoomed in too much (and is there a cure)?

[tetsujin1979]

P.S. Why are so many YouTube videos I watch zoomed in too much (and is there a cure)?
It's the video itself, zoomng in like that gets around YouTube's automatic content scanners for copyrighted video

[geysir]

This is the one where McClean did well - https://youtu.be/ijIrU0rx5qQ?t=6m45s

The other one (that Stutts is referring to) isn't included in that highlights package but basically McClean managed to get in behind, but tried to cut it back when all he needed to do was roll it straight across the goal.
That's it so. McClean's blooper has been wiped out from recorded video history, along with Murph's almost moment of glory.

Murphy was involved in both McClean chances, he nearly got his boot to the ball in the first one when we were 1 nil up and was left forlorn in the second chance.

[zero]

This is the one where McClean did well - https://youtu.be/ijIrU0rx5qQ?t=6m45s

The other one (that Stutts is referring to) isn't included in that highlights package but basically McClean managed to get in behind, but tried to cut it back when all he needed to do was roll it straight across the goal.

P.S. Why are so many YouTube videos I watch zoomed in too much (and is there a cure)?


It's the video itself, zoomng in like that gets around YouTube's automatic content scanners for copyrighted video

ah right - and there i was about to suggest sitting further back from the screen...

[Stuttgart88]

As much as Houghton's one on one with the English keeper in Wembley ?

I think the scars on my brain from that one would be visible on a MRI scan

[OwlsFan]

I asked around my group for the mental scars and the Macedonian debacle came top, following the spinning Dutch header in 1988, the late dodgy Belgium goal in the play off and of course Ray's miss against England. Dishonourable mentions also for throwing away the 1-3 lead in Poland and the penalty given away at home to Turkey in the play off. And there are lots more of course...

[DeLorean]

Ray's probably tops it for me. Macedonia was a heartbreaker but I'd have preferred to have qualified (ahead of England) for Euro 92 than Euro 2000. The team was around its peak and winning at Wembley would have been incredibly satisfying.

I was a bit young for Kieft's header, still hurts in retrospect though.

[tricky_colour]

Got opening goal for Forest in their 3-1 win over Newcastle in EPL cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TftdlpnkS2Y

his goal is missing i think

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIpN2XJuzg

3 goal in extra time, good result for forest but I doubt newcastle cared about the EPL?

[pineapple stu]

Scores the winner for St Joseph's in the Matt Stafford Division 4 Cup final against Dungarvan United.

https://waterford-news.ie/sport/soccer/murphy-heads-extra-time-winner-for-super-saints_arid-21679.html

Nice to see him still playing local ball. Presume it's a veterans' league given the game was 30 minutes each way?

[seanfhear]

Scores the winner for St Joseph's in the Matt Stafford Division 4 Cup final against Dungarvan United.

https://waterford-news.ie/sport/soccer/murphy-heads-extra-time-winner-for-super-saints_arid-21679.html

Nice to see him still playing local ball. Presume it's a veterans' league given the game was 30 minutes each way?
Ringer !