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holidaysong
18/09/2023, 8:43 PM
That's staggering to be honest. Fair play to all the travelling Usher Celtic fans.

ger121
18/09/2023, 10:41 PM
That's staggering to be honest. Fair play to all the travelling Usher Celtic fans.

There was actually a lot of them there.

EatYerGreens
19/09/2023, 1:01 AM
There was actually a lot of them there.

Where is the club based?

nr637
19/09/2023, 9:59 AM
Where is the club based?

Usher! Dublin City.

Usher Celtic FC, an inner city club named after a short stretch of roadway along the quays. Founded in 1934, the club has drawn many of its players from this area over the decades, Usher's Island, Usher's Quay, Bridgefoot Street and Oliver Bond Flats.

According to Google ! :confused:

EatYerGreens
19/09/2023, 8:52 PM
Usher! Dublin City.

Usher Celtic FC, an inner city club named after a short stretch of roadway along the quays. Founded in 1934, the club has drawn many of its players from this area over the decades, Usher's Island, Usher's Quay, Bridgefoot Street and Oliver Bond Flats.

According to Google ! :confused:

So the same part of town as Oliver Bond Celtic?

CorribsideSteve
22/09/2023, 10:26 PM
3,921 announced on the TV for the Pat's Dundalk match.

cláirseach
22/09/2023, 11:04 PM
So the same part of town as Oliver Bond Celtic?

Yes, although if there is a distinction geographically then it is that one has grown slightly North facing (at least at senior) and the other one South facing (at least underage) from what I can tell.

exiled_gufc_fan
26/09/2023, 10:49 AM
2,503 for Galway v Harps on Monday night, our third highest gate of the season.
Clever marketing move having FAI cup SF tickets being on sale at the game.

oriel
26/09/2023, 3:42 PM
Didn't see a figure announced for Dundalk v Cork City last night, but I'd say it was on track to be one of the lowest since 2012 (obv not counting covid restricted reduced capacity).

Fair play to the 10-15 who made it up, including the secondary school lad who's timeline was posted on twitter, he got out of school at 1.30, 2 trains, 1 luas, lift to airport, aircoach to Cork and home for 4am, deserves a medal or at least a voucher from the club for some kit.

oriel
26/09/2023, 3:45 PM
3,921 announced on the TV for the Pat's Dundalk match.

Impressive for Pats, but always wondered what areas hold what there if on a game like this the 'shed' end was closed out. There was a gap between away fans in the main stand, behind goal was busy but not completely full, if say 1,800 between main stand and behind goal, that leaves 2,100 Camac side, I`m not sure these figures stack up?

kksaints
26/09/2023, 4:04 PM
Impressive for Pats, but always wondered what areas hold what there if on a game like this the 'shed' end was closed out. There was a gap between away fans in the main stand, behind goal was busy but not completely full, if say 1,800 between main stand and behind goal, that leaves 2,100 Camac side, I`m not sure these figures stack up?

The main stand holds around 1800 alone so even given the segregation gaps there's still at least 1600 seats or so there. Patron Stand behind the goal holds 900.

oriel
28/09/2023, 1:48 PM
Didnt realise main stand at Pats held 1,800, ok so if you give 1600 for that last Friday, and maybe 750 (from 900) for open stand behind goal = 2350 - 3921 = just under 1,600 in the camac side?

Would there really be that amount over that far side ?

Buller
28/09/2023, 1:55 PM
Didnt realise main stand at Pats held 1,800, ok so if you give 1600 for that last Friday, and maybe 750 (from 900) for open stand behind goal = 2350 - 3921 = just under 1,600 in the camac side?

Would there really be that amount over that far side ?

Attendances at Richmond have always baffled me too. Maybe the fact the camac is standing it fits far more in more densely.

kksaints
28/09/2023, 2:52 PM
Didnt realise main stand at Pats held 1,800, ok so if you give 1600 for that last Friday, and maybe 750 (from 900) for open stand behind goal = 2350 - 3921 = just under 1,600 in the camac side?

Would there really be that amount over that far side ?

Could be. It was absolutely packed in there on Friday. The Shed End holds around 1,000 so it wouldn't surprise if the Camac was able to hold more. The capacity is listed as around 5,000, now I think it's slightly lower but I thought the safe capacity was 4,200 at one stage but we've definitely beaten that on numerous occasions this season.

2 Year Contract
28/09/2023, 3:19 PM
Could be. It was absolutely packed in there on Friday. The Shed End holds around 1,000 so it wouldn't surprise if the Camac was able to hold more. The capacity is listed as around 5,000, now I think it's slightly lower but I thought the safe capacity was 4,200 at one stage but we've definitely beaten that on numerous occasions this season.

5,011 was the crowd for Pats vs Bohs a few weeks back. 5,000 was also surpassed in when rovers (and bohs) came earlier in the season. Those are the only fixtures that 5k gets surpassed for though because they’re the only 2 that sell out the away allocation. The home allocation is approx 3,900 and has been sold out too many times to count off the top of my head this year

oriel
28/09/2023, 3:44 PM
Attendances at Richmond have always baffled me too. Maybe the fact the camac is standing it fits far more in more densely.

I have been wondering for a while also, plus thought my take on estimates on the main stand (1600 - was there even that there) and behind goal (750) were more than fair, even at that it still leaves around 1,600 in that medium size camac area, not sure if all that stacks up.

Its a small ground, i would have thought 750 max in Camac area, that would have given a crowd of 1600 + 750 + 750 = 3,100 last fri night, would seem to be more on the money, but obv a much higher crowd was announced (3,921)

2 Year Contract
29/09/2023, 10:04 AM
I have been wondering for a while also, plus thought my take on estimates on the main stand (1600 - was there even that there) and behind goal (750) were more than fair, even at that it still leaves around 1,600 in that medium size camac area, not sure if all that stacks up.

Its a small ground, i would have thought 750 max in Camac area, that would have given a crowd of 1600 + 750 + 750 = 3,100 last fri night, would seem to be more on the money, but obv a much higher crowd was announced (3,921)

You can take the tinfoil hat off my friend, the camac holds over double what you seem to think it holds so your estimates can be considered woeful with all due respect

oriel
29/09/2023, 5:39 PM
No, the 750 I am saying in Camac is not my estimate on the capacity, its what I am asking if that was the crowd there on Friday, as if 3,920 was the correct crowd, and allowing for 3/4 full main stand and same one behind goal, still means there were around 1,600 in the Camac area last Friday, that seems a lot.

joey B
29/09/2023, 9:36 PM
7879 at Tallaght..
903 at Finn Park...
4193 at Dalymount..
2728 at Oriel..
1432 at RSC...
507 at Carlisle Grounds..

outspoken
29/09/2023, 10:23 PM
7879 at Tallaght..
903 at Finn Park...
4193 at Dalymount..
2728 at Oriel..
1432 at RSC...
507 at Carlisle Grounds..
903 at harps for the definition of a nothing game. 507 at the Carlisle. Goes to show how broken things are at Bray. Die hard Bray fans saying how they won't even want to go to home games. Place is beyond morbid

oriel
29/09/2023, 10:24 PM
7879 at Tallaght..
903 at Finn Park...
4193 at Dalymount..
2728 at Oriel..
1432 at RSC...
507 at Carlisle Grounds..

2,827 at Dundalk v Drogs, looked to be just over 3k but these figs called out have been slightly below most estimates, not sure why, maybe its scanners as at least 5 told me at HT they weren't scanned.

https://x.com/DundalkFC/status/1707856449525645770?s=20

thebronze14
29/09/2023, 10:24 PM
Didn't feel like 903 there tbh. I would have thought about 600

Darkglasses
29/09/2023, 11:04 PM
I'd say even 507 at the Carlisle might be slightly massaged, based on the pictures floating around

https://twitter.com/1985Seagulls/status/1707830602206974437

nigel-harps1954
30/09/2023, 11:36 AM
Didn't feel like 903 there tbh. I would have thought about 600

Definitely more than 600. I did feel like it went up to about 800 or so as there was a bigger crowd than usual on gantry side. Lot of young kids in. But can't deny the scanners I guess!

nigel-harps1954
01/10/2023, 4:14 PM
Missing official figures from:

Bray v Wexford - 14th July
Waterford v Athlone - 1st Sept
Bray v Treaty - 15th Sept
Longford v Waterford - 22nd Sept
Cobh v Harps - 22nd Sept
Dundalk v Cork - 25th Sept
Galway v Athlone - 29th Sept
Longford v Treaty - 29th Sept

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 4,263 (3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Cork - 3,829 (3,517 FD; 2,505; 4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
Derry - 3,340 (3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 1,918 (1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 2,614 (2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Pat's - 4,252 (3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 6,079 (5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 3,377 (2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 2,637 (2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
UCD - 874 (953; 739; 365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 852 (307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 687 (482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 1,058 (872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Galway - 1,989 (2,081; 780; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
Harps - 1,190 (1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
Kerry - 817 (No previous)
Longford - 714 (500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 639 (695)
Waterford - 1,874 (1,705; 1,496 PD; 2,329 PD; 1,550; 314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466)
Wexford - 694 (445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,329 (2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,051 (1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,172 (2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)


OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 532,662 (486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 173,378 (178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 706,040 (664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)

Martinho II
01/10/2023, 4:22 PM
Longford Treaty attendance was significantly down on Waterford game which was less than 400. Waterford game I reckon was `1000 there as Waterford brought a big travelling support down!

nigel-harps1954
02/10/2023, 9:13 PM
Still missing the following, if anyone can help:

Bray v Wexford - 14th July
Waterford v Athlone - 1st Sept
Bray v Treaty - 15th Sept
Dundalk v Cork - 25th Sept
Longford v Treaty - 29th Sept

Martinho II
02/10/2023, 9:17 PM
Still missing the following, if anyone can help:

Bray v Wexford - 14th July
Waterford v Athlone - 1st Sept
Bray v Treaty - 15th Sept
Dundalk v Cork - 25th Sept
Longford v Treaty - 29th Sept

Sorry Nigel Longford Treaty was around 400 ppl which was a big reduction on the waterford game!

nigel-harps1954
02/10/2023, 9:19 PM
Sorry Nigel Longford Treaty was around 400 ppl which was a big reduction on the waterford game!

606 was the attendance given for Waterford, but nothing updated for Treaty yet.

outspoken
02/10/2023, 10:03 PM
606 was the attendance given for Waterford, but nothing updated for Treaty yet.

I genuinely don't think there was much more than 100 at it. No chance it was 400.

holidaysong
03/10/2023, 8:07 AM
Still missing the following, if anyone can help:
Dundalk v Cork - 25th Sept


This wasn't announced on the night but was about 1,800.

Martinho II
03/10/2023, 9:02 PM
I genuinely don't think there was much more than 100 at it. No chance it was 400.

Im not surprised by this at all. Theres an lot of unhappiness with the club over that chaotic press release after Kerry game and a certain town fan was refused entry into Treaty game when they cant afford to be turning ppl away over a diff of opinion with a club official after final whistle in Waterford game.

For a loi club its embarrasing carryon. That said person did not get an email ,text or phonecall that they were refused entry. Theres uproar amongst the support base over this.

Why were they not given a face to face meeting to explain themselves? You arent even allowed freedom of speech nowadays. That said person was unhappy with the steward telling them they were barred and then asked to speak to their supervisor a certain club official who laughingly said that foul language was used in front of kids!
Isnt that what happens at football matches anyways? Its gone pathetic and embarrasing and turning into a dicatorship. Also that person was told that a letter will be sent out in writing well as of today that letter hasnt even arrived.
So I wonder is the club doublebluffin a certain town fan?
I wont be surprised next season that if the ban isnt reversed a lot of fans will stay away!

outspoken
03/10/2023, 11:13 PM
Im not surprised by this at all. Theres an lot of unhappiness with the club over that chaotic press release after Kerry game and a certain town fan was refused entry into Treaty game when they cant afford to be turning ppl away over a diff of opinion with a club official after final whistle in Waterford game.

For a loi club its embarrasing carryon. That said person did not get an email ,text or phonecall that they were refused entry. Theres uproar amongst the support base over this.

Why were they not given a face to face meeting to explain themselves? You arent even allowed freedom of speech nowadays. That said person was unhappy with the steward telling them they were barred and then asked to speak to their supervisor a certain club official who laughingly said that foul language was used in front of kids!
Isnt that what happens at football matches anyways? Its gone pathetic and embarrasing and turning into a dicatorship. Also that person was told that a letter will be sent out in writing well as of today that letter hasnt even arrived.
So I wonder is the club doublebluffin a certain town fan?
I wont be surprised next season that if the ban isnt reversed a lot of fans will stay away!

Why are you using the phrase "certain town fan" when you've posted online that you are the supporter who was refused entry?

I didn't witness the incident, no idea what happened but you appear to have just admitted to using foul language in front of kids? If that's the case then that's a big difference between having a difference of opinion as you seem to be framing it. I seem to remember you saying elsewhere you had to be moved on by two stewards? That doesn't exactly sound like a calm conversation or difference of opinion? Again, I've no idea what went on and I'm sorry to hear such a long standing supporter has been turned away but there seems to be a lot more to this than just telling a lad you didn't agree with a press release???

I'm sure you have the right to appeal it or request a meeting with the club to discuss if you feel you've genuinely been hard done by?

Martinho II
04/10/2023, 9:29 PM
Why are you using the phrase "certain town fan" when you've posted online that you are the supporter who was refused entry?

I didn't witness the incident, no idea what happened but you appear to have just admitted to using foul language in front of kids? If that's the case then that's a big difference between having a difference of opinion as you seem to be framing it. I seem to remember you saying elsewhere you had to be moved on by two stewards? That doesn't exactly sound like a calm conversation or difference of opinion? Again, I've no idea what went on and I'm sorry to hear such a long standing supporter has been turned away but there seems to be a lot more to this than just telling a lad you didn't agree with a press release???

I'm sure you have the right to appeal it or request a meeting with the club to discuss if you feel you've genuinely been hard done by?

I am going to email the club as the response from the club has being strangely quiet. Im going to email length of ban and exact reason why otherwise if its not resolved to my satisfaction another avenue will have to be taken. Why was there such a long period of time between the Kerry FC press release and Longford town press release. No wonder Stephen Henderson had to go and release his own statement.
Anyway that club official is no saint he accused a young lad who you know well who helps out on media side and called him a racist when it was never the case as me and another person were witnesses to it. You mightnt know as you have your seat in the pressbox but theres huge anger in Section O over him charging from the press box and saying it to him .
So do you blame me for being angry over this club official? I was ignoring him all season until this incident in Section O took place. And once this press release was released town fans and other loi fans questioned the tone of that statement so dont be getting on your high horse with me.

outspoken
04/10/2023, 10:16 PM
I am going to email the club as the response from the club has being strangely quiet. Im going to email length of ban and exact reason why otherwise if its not resolved to my satisfaction another avenue will have to be taken. Why was there such a long period of time between the Kerry FC press release and Longford town press release. No wonder Stephen Henderson had to go and release his own statement.
Anyway that club official is no saint he accused a young lad who you know well who helps out on media side and called him a racist when it was never the case as me and another person were witnesses to it. You mightnt know as you have your seat in the pressbox but theres huge anger in Section O over him charging from the press box and saying it to him .
So do you blame me for being angry over this club official? I was ignoring him all season until this incident in Section O took place. And once this press release was released town fans and other loi fans questioned the tone of that statement so dont be getting on your high horse with me.

High horse? I asked you some questions but here you go again flying off the hinges just like you did with that member of staff.

cláirseach
05/10/2023, 6:09 PM
foul language? at a league of ireland match? foul language?

Nesta99
06/10/2023, 8:28 AM
Son of a gun! I never heard no gee wilikers at games, suffering cheese and crackers! dont anybody think of the childer no more??:(

nr637
09/10/2023, 7:45 AM
4,300 announced in Galway...........closer to 5,000 maybe!
6,200 announced in Cork...........closer to 7,000 maybe!

:confused:

culloty82
09/10/2023, 12:34 PM
Still nothing from Shelbourne, Kerry or Treaty for this round of matches.

Shearer
10/10/2023, 7:46 PM
Still nothing from Shelbourne, Kerry or Treaty for this round of matches.
Think I heard 620 anecdotally for Treaty.

I think it's the FAI that put them on the app but not sure. Kerry attendance is usually up before FT.

Shearer
10/10/2023, 8:29 PM
566 in Galway tonight.

thebronze14
10/10/2023, 8:44 PM
566 in Galway tonight.
That's absolutely shocking for the champions..I know it's Tuesday and a bad night but that is atrocious

Shearer
10/10/2023, 8:50 PM
That's absolutely shocking for the champions..I know it's Tuesday and a bad night but that is atrocious
Admittedly I forgot the game was on until half time.
It's a quick turnaround from all the razzmatazz of Saturday so that plays a role I suppose.

holidaysong
12/10/2023, 4:52 PM
This wasn't announced on the night but was about 1,800.

1,827 added in the FAI connect app for this match.

Good to know that I haven't lost my attendance estimation skills after all these years!

nigel-harps1954
12/10/2023, 6:06 PM
Update before this weekends matches.

Missing official:

Bray v Wexford - 14th July
Bray v Treaty - 15th Sept

Shelbourne v Dundalk - 6th Oct
Kerry v Wexford - 6th Oct
Treaty v Harps - 6th Oct


PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 4,263 (3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Cork - 3,829 (3,517 FD; 2,505; 4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
Derry - 3,340 (3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 1,900 (1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 2,627 (2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Pat's - 4,252 (3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 6,079 (5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 3,355 (2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 2,637 (2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
UCD - 874 (953; 739; 365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 840 (307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 687 (482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 1,040 (872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Galway - 1,954 (2,081; 780; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
Harps - 1,190 (1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
Kerry - 793 (No previous)
Longford - 696 (500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 625 (695)
Waterford - 1,865 (1,705; 1,496 PD; 2,329 PD; 1,550; 314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466)
Wexford - 694 (445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,318 (2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,038 (1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,151 (2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)


OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 537,513 (486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 176,499 (178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 714,012 (664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)

nr637
13/10/2023, 11:06 AM
UCD V Bohs 1,224

nigel-harps1954
14/10/2023, 4:00 PM
Harps v Athlone - 544

Shearer
14/10/2023, 4:28 PM
730 in Limerick

culloty82
14/10/2023, 10:00 PM
480 in Mounthawk Park.

culloty82
20/10/2023, 8:15 PM
550 - Kerry v Wexford