Attendances 2022

[nigel-harps1954]

Is it possible that we could get the town end? At least we might see some of the game?

No, I'd imagine it'll be the full gantry side to Derry fans.

[Nesta99]

Really? I get the impression its just fizzled out, maybe time was a healer and GK thought better of proceeding, that said I never thought there was a case in the first place, sure has it effected Pats that much? Time for all to move I think.

If Pats under Clancy were tearing it up and O'Donnell's Dundalk in the bottom two, it would all go away. Kelleher has Kerr in his ear so the coals will be kept stoked, Kerr being the forgive and forget type 'n all. Unless he is too busy in Pakistan trying to ban artificial pitches.

[Nesta99]

I love the GAA myself, just hate the dicks that run it or the idiots that follow it but think no other sports exist

Yeah, no issue with the sports especially hurling, but the governing body is full of self important tossers, from HQ to county boards. The bog standard fan that sees football fans as some sort of national traitors are a dying breed thee days but occasionally a nuisance like Peter Fitzpatrick. I'd expect there to be a bandwagon effect for Louth's championship games which will no doubt return to type and become Sligo Rovers in Europe trying everything possible to lose winnable games.

[D24Saint]

To get the thread back on course. It’s set to be a sell out on Friday in Richmond. The game is on RTE aswell so this represents a huge change in attitude to the LOI by the sporting public. If it’s for the long term or just a post Covid bounce only at the end of season we can make a full assessment.

[Nesta99]

Have to say I do think that current trends in attendances across all sports is relevant. Knowing why there are differences helps with devising strategies to minimise any potential fall off. The Louth example alludes to facility provision, disgruntlement with the local admin of the sport. Maybe its just very hard to break an old mindset - somethings that seems to have happened in positive terms with LoI. The only thing that differs from previous seasons is that apathy among lapsed fans that now seems to have been broken by lockdowns, only appreciating what you have when its not there stuff. Watching to see if there is an upturn in crowds at Louth games, accounting for generally greater interest in the All-Ireland, while also identifying the auld bandwagon rolling in would be a useful exercise. When the new county ground is opened the build it and they will come thinking will get a bit of a litmus test. After that sniping at Brian Kerr and the faux outrage from the close season is always fair game at any given opportunity, especially with Friday's fixture pending. Would the game have sold out f it wasnt for the S'OD controversy? Pats off the back of a poor performance, some fans questioning their managers ability and Dundalk being a mid-table side at best so there isnt the on field competitive draw for supporters. All this while also recognising that the 'sold out' signs have happened across the league irrespective of traditional or local rivalries.

[pineapple stu]

Reckoned 600-700 in the Bowl last night. Didn't see how the far end of the stand looked, but going off it being a bit under half full overall.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

2209 in The Showgrounds

[Antrim bob]

2209 in The Showgrounds

How many shels ??

[Antrim bob]

And how many bohs last night if you have the info

[Nesta99]

2209 in The Showgrounds

Good showing for an unusual Tuesday fixture. No idea what the weather was like in the west but it was rubbish here.

[Abbeyman]

Most people round Limerick follow all sports so there’s no point hating any sport and life’s too short for that.
Some parts of the country are better at pulling crowds to LOI fixtures and association football is top dog in Louth but in other parts like Limerick it’s a very crowded market in terms of getting crowds . Treaty can pull 1500/2000 easily enough but when you have Munster rugby and Limerick hurlers on your doorstep it’s not easy get the mass market especially in division 1 .

[Candystripe]

Derry's allocation for the North west derby at Harps is sold out. Could any of you's Harps lad's let us know how many we got please?

[Finlay Harp]

Think I heard it was around 450.

[Mr A]

Think I heard it was around 450.

Derry have whole Aldi side so more like double that

[Buller]

What is the total capacity of Finn Park? Remember hearing of very big crowds up there for games against Derry

[thebronze14]

What is the total capacity of Finn Park? Remember hearing of very big crowds up there for games against Derry
4200 I think at the moment

[pateen]

Who sets these capacity limits? If it's the FAI, isn't this a massive hindrance to clubs who might fit more in on big nights.

If it's the government, how came the GAA get away with packing them in?

[EatYerGreens]

Who sets these capacity limits? If it's the FAI, isn't this a massive hindrance to clubs who might fit more in on big nights.

If it's the government, how came the GAA get away with packing them in?

Surely it's councils who are responsible for assessing stadia and issuing safe capacities for them ?

[nigel-harps1954]

Who sets these capacity limits? If it's the FAI, isn't this a massive hindrance to clubs who might fit more in on big nights.

If it's the government, how came the GAA get away with packing them in?

There was a time Finn Park held 8,000 comfortably, but not a chance any more. River end is still closed, seats in the middle of the stand block the views of a lot of the terracing, and the new dressing rooms take up quite a substantial bit of space on the gantry side. Safe capacity is at about 4,500 currently after the installation of a crush barrier on the town end terrace a couple of years ago. I'd say you'd easily put the other 500 in to make up 5,000 without any issues, but any more than that and you're in like sardines.

[pateen]

Surely it's councils who are responsible for assessing stadia and issuing safe capacities for them ?

You see sold out league of Ireland grounds where you could could push a buggy through the crowd yet God help anyone on Hill 16 who gets a heart attack on all Ireland day the way it's packed out. I would genuinely love to know

[Nesta99]

Surely it's councils who are responsible for assessing stadia and issuing safe capacities for them ?

Its a combination of decision makers but ultimately the buck stops with the county fire officer and deciding safe holding capacity or more accurately the safe evacuation of numbers - if there really is such a thing in the event of the necessity.

[thebronze14]

Who sets these capacity limits? If it's the FAI, isn't this a massive hindrance to clubs who might fit more in on big nights.

If it's the government, how came the GAA get away with packing them in?

Tbf capacities in plenty of GAA grounds have gone down in recent years and you could fit plenty more into them. Restroom facilities I'd imagine the problem in some Provincial grounds

[2 Year Contract]

I’d have the crowd at Richmond as around 4,200. Few empty seats in the main stand which was sold out during the week. That would be down to season tickets being allocated there which didn’t show. Pretty small Dundalk crowd compared to games back in the days when they were a top half club. Probably around 300 of them

[Nesta99]

I’d have the crowd at Richmond as around 4,200. Few empty seats in the main stand which was sold out during the week. That would be down to season tickets being allocated there which didn’t show. Pretty small Dundalk crowd compared to games back in the days when they were a top half club. Probably around 300 of them

Meow!!!

[ToberonaTornado]

I’d have the crowd at Richmond as around 4,200. Few empty seats in the main stand which was sold out during the week. That would be down to season tickets being allocated there which didn’t show. Pretty small Dundalk crowd compared to games back in the days when they were a top half club. Probably around 300 of them

LOL

4322 official https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/1512561200462192643

[oriel]

What is the capacity of Richmond Park these days? I was surprised at the 4300 figure, as their stand was not completely full, mind you it was close, but the stand behind the goal looked only half full, unless the camac side was packed out, I don't see where the 4k+ is coming from, looked to be 3k max, but this was an official figure by the club I suppose.

Also it was small Dundalk support, probably half that went to Bohs and 1/3 that went to Drogs.

[2 Year Contract]

What is the capacity of Richmond Park these days? I was surprised at the 4300 figure, as their stand was not completely full, mind you it was close, but the stand behind the goal looked only half full, unless the camac side was packed out, I don't see where the 4k+ is coming from, looked to be 3k max, but this was an official figure by the club I suppose.

Also it was small Dundalk support, probably half that went to Bohs and 1/3 that went to Drogs.

Capacity is 5,340 so around 800 empty in the away end and around 200 or so in the home end, sounds about right

[Antrim bob]

Capacity is 5,340 so around 800 empty in the away end and around 200 or so in the home end, sounds about right

Why are bohs supposedly the big club in north Dublin when pats and shels crowds home and away are every bit as good as bohs ?

[Jack B]

The stand was apparently sold out prior to the game so I don't know if there were a lot of no-shows from season ticket holders or people just bought tickets there only to then stand on the Camac or what the story was. Felt like less than one or two other games this season but still a great crowd, quite pleased we haven't had a quick drop off as we have done a couple of a times previously.

[EatYerGreens]

Capacity is 5,340 so around 800 empty in the away end and around 200 or so in the home end, sounds about right

How does Richmond hold that much more than places like Oriel or the Brandywell ?

[Buller]

How does Richmond hold that much more than places like Oriel or the Brandywell ?

Yeah I've always found it amazing how many fans can be crammed into Richmond!

[kksaints]

How does Richmond hold that much more than places like Oriel or the Brandywell ?

All four sides can be used unlike the stadiums you mentioned. Plus terraces can hold a lot of people, think it's 1000 the Shed End can hold.

[oriel]

Honest Q for Pats fans, has your crowds significantly increased since the cup final win (if so, this is great), and this is not a dig, its just I always saw Pats (possibly I was wrong) as the 4th best supported club in the city when all were in the PD, but the crowds this year seem to be 3k or so on avg this season, possibly more?

Pre covid I thought avg crowds were less than 2k, again open to correction on part any of my post.

[kksaints]

Honest Q for Pats fans, has your crowds significantly increased since the cup final win (if so, this is great), and this is not a dig, its just I always saw Pats (possibly I was wrong) as the 4th best supported club in the city when all were in the PD, but the crowds this year seem to be 3k or so on avg this season, possibly more?

Pre covid I thought avg crowds were less than 2k, again open to correction on part any of my post.


Our crowds have been improving since they reached a nadir in the 2016 season, weirdly the relegation battle in 2017 reinvigorated our fanbase somewhat plus the excellent work done by our Community team was leading to crowd figures rising the last few years. But it's certainly increased even more this season and they've been fantastic so far. I would have always said that we were the 3rd highest attendance in Dublin ahead of Shels.

[Jack B]

I'd say it's a combination of the cup final, then general increase in LOI interest in Dublin and the largely unsung community work that has been done by Dave Morrissey. Think Conan Byrne said towards the end of last season that he's never seen so many kids at a ground as Richmond for certain games, whether that's exactly true or not who knows but it's definitely aided the attendances all the same.

[EatYerGreens]

Yeah I've always found it amazing how many fans can be crammed into Richmond!

Especially given it's a very confined site with, what, only two entrances and exits ? If people need to get out of that ground in a hurry, it could end messily.

[EatYerGreens]

All four sides can be used unlike the stadiums you mentioned. Plus terraces can hold a lot of people, think it's 1000 the Shed End can hold.

But how do they get out quickly in the event of a fire etc ?

[2 Year Contract]

In terms of getting out of the ground there’s the away exit under the archway, the home turnstiles, the players exit and also if all of those were blocked in an emergency or whatever then there’s also access to street level through both the club office and McDowells. It’s similar to say, Oriel, Dalymount, Tolka, United Park off the top of my head in terms of access to exits but yeah ideally all of them including Richmond would have better exits.

[Finlay Harp]

Finn Park looked to nearly at capacity on Saturday. Guesstimate would be 3500.

[nigel-harps1954]

Finn Park looked to nearly at capacity on Saturday. Guesstimate would be 3500.

Officially just under 3,000. Was some decent sized gaps in the town end terrace as well.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

does the location of your ground hurt attendances ?

[outspoken]

451***

[gufct]

1,519 at Edp Saturday with no away fans. Ko was too early and maybe we shouldn’t have changed from Friday but that’s for another day.

[outspoken]

does the location of your ground hurt attendances ?

Probably but then you look at clubs like Drogs, Dundalk, Pats etc who have little to no scope to develop facilities. We've one of the best grounds in the country with pitches out the back for underage with incredible scope for further development, we've a huge car park which we use to great effect with car boot sales that are huge fundraisers so there's huge benefits to having the ground where it is. At the end of the day, it's up to us as a club to make match days more attractive, a lack of volunteers is a huge issue. Restricts the club from doing more stuff for kids and families on match days, I'm sure that's not an issue unique to Longford Town though.

[EatYerGreens]

Probably but then you look at clubs like Drogs, Dundalk, Pats etc who have little to no scope to develop facilities. We've one of the best grounds in the country with pitches out the back for underage with incredible scope for further development, we've a huge car park which we use to great effect with car boot sales that are huge fundraisers so there's huge benefits to having the ground where it is. At the end of the day, it's up to us as a club to make match days more attractive, a lack of volunteers is a huge issue. Restricts the club from doing more stuff for kids and families on match days, I'm sure that's not an issue unique to Longford Town though.

Is the town growing in the direction of Flancare/whatever it's called these days, or in different directions ?

[Martinho II]

Is the town growing in the direction of Flancare/whatever it's called these days, or in different directions ?


I live out 3 miles past Bishopsgate so far there doesnt seem to be any expansion out that way. Where I find where the town is expanding is out on the N4 bypass ie Sligo Dublin Rd.

[ToberonaTornado]

1st q(Quarter) of games over and i'd reckon attendance recorded numbers are decent.
Anyone got it?

[nigel-harps1954]

1st q(Quarter) of games over and i'd reckon attendance recorded numbers are decent.
Anyone got it?

I'll try catch up on it this evening but there's an awful lot of official figures missing, as well as a lack of estimated figures from others. Finding it much more difficult than previous years to get official figures.

[EatYerGreens]

Finding it much more difficult than previous years to get official figures.

Yeah - That'll be the Russians.

[outspoken]

Not sure how many at the game last night but certainly not good.