Attendances 2022

[EatYerGreens]

Looked about 3,300 at the Brandywell tonight v Pat's although possibly a bit more.

Did it sell out ?

[JC_GUFC]

I've just come across a site that has average attendances for each tier of English football - it's kind of interesting to see where LoI matches up...

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances

This is the Conference/National League and there is a massive difference between the "haves" and "have nots"

Wrexham who are currently top on GD have the highest average attendance of over 8.5k while Stockport who look like they'll go up as Champions are next highest with just under 7k of an average. Traditional football league clubs, Notts County, Chesterfield, Grimsby and Southend are all in or around the 6k mark, of these only Southend haven't been pushing for playoffs.

There is then a massive drop from 6th placed Grimsby to 7th placed Woking in terms of attendances - Grimsby's is more than double that of Woking. There are then 13 clubs with an average between 2,600 and 1,400 with the remaining 4 clubs 3 of which are being relegated having crowds around the 1k mark.


The tier below that the average attendance in the National League North is about 1,200 - boosted by large attendance figures at York City and Kidderminster Harriers while NL South is just about 1k - Dulwich Hamlet pushing close to 3k despite being mid-table - aren't they that hipster club that make Bohs look fairly mainstream!

Going up the way League 2's average attendance is about 5k - Bradford maintain an incredible support despite being mid-table. Averaging over 15k per game and a lot of the clubs with the smallest averages are ones that have been promoted from non-league over the last 20 years or so, presumably on the back of wealthy owners - Salford City have the smallest average just over 2k, but clubs like Barrow, Stevenage, Sutton, Harrogate and Crawley all have below par averages while the Champions Forest Green Rovers had the 4th smallest average attendance at just over 2.5k

[pineapple stu]

European-Football-Statistics.co.uk (https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm) has similar data for all across Europe fwiw.

[brendy_éire]

Did it sell out ?

More tickets became available online yesterday afternoon, and don't think they sold out. If they didn't, that's the first game this season that hasn't sold out. Suppose it's a Monday night, so it's always going to be less popular, but if those spare tickets were released a day earlier, you'd imagine they would have sold out.

[EatYerGreens]

I've just come across a site that has average attendances for each tier of English football - it's kind of interesting to see where LoI matches up...

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances

This is the Conference/National League and there is a massive difference between the "haves" and "have nots"

Wrexham who are currently top on GD have the highest average attendance of over 8.5k while Stockport who look like they'll go up as Champions are next highest with just under 7k of an average. Traditional football league clubs, Notts County, Chesterfield, Grimsby and Southend are all in or around the 6k mark, of these only Southend haven't been pushing for playoffs.

There is then a massive drop from 6th placed Grimsby to 7th placed Woking in terms of attendances - Grimsby's is more than double that of Woking. There are then 13 clubs with an average between 2,600 and 1,400 with the remaining 4 clubs 3 of which are being relegated having crowds around the 1k mark.


The tier below that the average attendance in the National League North is about 1,200 - boosted by large attendance figures at York City and Kidderminster Harriers while NL South is just about 1k - Dulwich Hamlet pushing close to 3k despite being mid-table - aren't they that hipster club that make Bohs look fairly mainstream!

Going up the way League 2's average attendance is about 5k - Bradford maintain an incredible support despite being mid-table. Averaging over 15k per game and a lot of the clubs with the smallest averages are ones that have been promoted from non-league over the last 20 years or so, presumably on the back of wealthy owners - Salford City have the smallest average just over 2k, but clubs like Barrow, Stevenage, Sutton, Harrogate and Crawley all have below par averages while the Champions Forest Green Rovers had the 4th smallest average attendance at just over 2.5k

The Non-League attendances are fairly understandable, and follow an obvious pattern where former League clubs get bigger crowds than those which haven't been at that level previously. Wrexham's crowds also having been inflated a lot recently due to celebrity owners. Dulwich being the exception as a hipster club, but that only began just over a decade ago, Before that they were getting very ordinary attendances. It does show what can be done to attract a crowd though if the positioning of a club is done right within the local community.

[Candystripe]

Did it sell out ?

Loads of people were looking for spares up to and including Monday.
I didn't know more went on sale online on Monday, I'm guessing it was because Pat's only had about 60 fans up (understandable on a Monday) and the rest then went on sale.

[Candystripe]

Derry city v Dundalk sold out within hrs of going on sale.

[Calcio Jack]

Derry city v Dundalk sold out within hrs of going on sale.

Less than a 1,000 tickets left for our match tomorrow - so hopefully another sell-out despite being live free to air on RTE

[Buller]

Derry city v Dundalk sold out within hrs of going on sale.

Its a real pity that new main stand was only half finished, a club like Derry always required more capacity than that. Great all the same to see sold out signs every week though.

[yurt]

Absolutely savage seeing these big games sell out mid season. In years gone by it'd only be big derby games or league deciders where this would be realistic.

Perfect game to have on tv. Hopefully we get some quality on the pitch to match the occasion.

[SPXcyan]

1,283 at the RSC tonight v Cobh.

[oriel]

Dundalk v Bohs official attendance announced as 2,748, decent crowd up from Bohs, def 400 anyway.

[Kingswood Rover]

I think i heard 7156 announced at Talla, was surprised at the Derry support i was thinking it would be much more than.... was it about 400 that travelled down. Still probably the most i seen from them since we have been in Talla.

[Nesta99]

Dundalk v Bohs official attendance announced as 2,748, decent crowd up from Bohs, def 400 anyway.

I think it was said they sold out their allocation so unless the capacity of the away section has been reduced or there was limited allocation, id have thought more than 400. Funnily enough I thought the announced figure was lower than I expected (just about the 3000) and usually i'd tend toward the lower end of figures.

[oriel]

Yes in hindsight, probably closer to 500 away, seems to be common observation last / most DFC home games, a lot think the official crowd is a little lower than was in. I would have gone for 3k tops tonight.

Can look at it two ways, def down from the league winning years of 3,500 but on a re-build and over 1k ST sold, anything over 2.5k with modest ambitions (and doing better than expected so far) this season is prob ok.

[ToberonaTornado]

Lol at Dundalk att AGAIN
Well North of 3k without a shadow of a doubt helped by a healthy sold out bohs away contingent. The numbers been given are.......c ...ri.... Stup...

But it's a new regime why would they lie?

Hahahahahaha 😂

[Candystripe]

Its a real pity that new main stand was only half finished, a club like Derry always required more capacity than that. Great all the same to see sold out signs every week though.

It's actually only 1/3rd finished. Meant to be a 3,000 seater stand.

Amazing attendances at most stadiums so far this season too. Tallaght looked brilliant tonight on TV.

[Nesta99]

If those numbers hold up for the Brandywell its bound to add weight to getting phases 2 and 3 of the new stand on the agenda quicker!? Agreed on Tallaght, its the sort of night we would have been dreaming of not so long ago - big crowd in a modern ground and a good game as a poke in the eye for the dismissive EPL barstooler. I see that there looked to be building supplies behind the goal, I presume thats for the 4th stand? Do Rovers fans think the additional capacity could be filled or will it become an away section type thing. Last nights game was a super attendance but was it a sell out. Its prudent when you get close to safe capacity that there is an increase but I think it would have taken from the overall impression of a packed ground if there was an empty stand there. Any consideration of rail seating for safe standing areas - I hate sitting in any ground!!

[sbgawa]

If those numbers hold up for the Brandywell its bound to add weight to getting phases 2 and 3 of the new stand on the agenda quicker!? Agreed on Tallaght, its the sort of night we would have been dreaming of not so long ago - big crowd in a modern ground and a good game as a poke in the eye for the dismissive EPL barstooler. I see that there looked to be building supplies behind the goal, I presume thats for the 4th stand? Do Rovers fans think the additional capacity could be filled or will it become an away section type thing. Last nights game was a super attendance but was it a sell out. Its prudent when you get close to safe capacity that there is an increase but I think it would have taken from the overall impression of a packed ground if there was an empty stand there. Any consideration of rail seating for safe standing areas - I hate sitting in any ground!!


7067 last night so probably 400 short of capacity which is around 7500 with the number of seat kills for fan separation and front rows to avoid pitch invasions.
Disappointing turn out from Derry fans maybe 350/400 although understandable given the distance involved in fairness.

Do i think the capacity of 10000 (with less seat kills needed maybe 9750 in reality) would be filled??
Id say bohs matches if they stay competitive could fill it if we gave them the North Stand, other than that European matches with good opposition might fill it at the moment.
If we can maintain success and keep growing attendances Pats and Shels maybe Dundalk who can bring good away support might also have a chance of filling it.

[Calcio Jack]

If those numbers hold up for the Brandywell its bound to add weight to getting phases 2 and 3 of the new stand on the agenda quicker!? Agreed on Tallaght, its the sort of night we would have been dreaming of not so long ago - big crowd in a modern ground and a good game as a poke in the eye for the dismissive EPL barstooler. I see that there looked to be building supplies behind the goal, I presume thats for the 4th stand? Do Rovers fans think the additional capacity could be filled or will it become an away section type thing. Last nights game was a super attendance but was it a sell out. Its prudent when you get close to safe capacity that there is an increase but I think it would have taken from the overall impression of a packed ground if there was an empty stand there. Any consideration of rail seating for safe standing areas - I hate sitting in any ground!!

You’re correct te the building supplies- work had just started on the new stand and the enhancements ( corporate seating and extended hospitality and office area to the West Stand - completion date is late 2023- will be a fantastic set up once finished - hopefully DCC can hurry up and do something similar soon with Dayler and/or Tolka ; it’s a disgrace they don’t seem to be able to commit to start and finish dates - then again we can’t seem to complete seem to deliver basic infrastructure such as hospitals what chance have we of getting ‘luxury’ developments such as sports facilities completed -

no doubt the SF election manifesto will now include at least 2 new stadiums for every county in addition to the 100k houses they’ve promised to deliver/ ‘build’ if they manage to get elected and form a Govt (they’re not good at that) despite their own councillors objecting every chance they get to housing planning applications - they remind me of Nixon delaying the Viêtnam peace talks despite the mounting body count to help him win the 1968 election ….. glad I got that off my chest !!!

[sbgawa]

You’re correct te the building supplies- work had just started on the new stand and the enhancements ( corporate seating and extended hospitality and office area to the West Stand - completion date is late 2023- will be a fantastic set up once finished - hopefully DCC can hurry up and do something similar soon with Dayler and/or Tolka ; it’s a disgrace they don’t seem to be able to commit to start and finish dates - then again we can’t seem to complete seem to deliver basic infrastructure such as hospitals what chance have we of getting ‘luxury’ developments such as sports facilities completed -

no doubt the SF election manifesto will now include at least 2 new stadiums for every county in addition to the 100k houses they’ve promised to deliver/ ‘build’ if they manage to get elected and form a Govt (they’re not good at that) despite their own councillors objecting every chance they get to housing planning applications - they remind me of Nixon delaying the Viêtnam peace talks despite the mounting body count to help him win the 1968 election ….. glad I got that off my chest !!!


SF policy is a free everything for everybody without having to actually work and paid for by someone else.........
I pity the poor someone elses.;)

[Nesta99]

You’re correct te the building supplies- work had just started on the new stand and the enhancements ( corporate seating and extended hospitality and office area to the West Stand - completion date is late 2023- will be a fantastic set up once finished - hopefully DCC can hurry up and do something similar soon with Dayler and/or Tolka ; it’s a disgrace they don’t seem to be able to commit to start and finish dates - then again we can’t seem to complete seem to deliver basic infrastructure such as hospitals what chance have we of getting ‘luxury’ developments such as sports facilities completed -

no doubt the SF election manifesto will now include at least 2 new stadiums for every county in addition to the 100k houses they’ve promised to deliver/ ‘build’ if they manage to get elected and form a Govt (they’re not good at that) despite their own councillors objecting every chance they get to housing planning applications - they remind me of Nixon delaying the Viêtnam peace talks despite the mounting body count to help him win the 1968 election ….. glad I got that off my chest !!!

I'm glad you said it as I have been thinking it but it would have been just another off topic random rant from me an get rolling eyes. I still cannot understand how there isnt turnkey clauses to major projects - a tender is selected, if the costs overrun its at least partly covered by the company that underestimated costs in their submitted tender, for every month over schedule within reason eg weather delays, a penalty occurs where overall profit margin for the developer gets a few quid less each time. Legislate to prevent the inflation of tender costs to the state due to the 'off a broad back' attitude - private companies dont get tenders the same as similar public projects in my experience. Source and use companies and suppliers from across the EU/UK that are the most competitive. Reform the planning system especially ABP etc etc. A case study on Finn Harps ground development would be an interesting one. The issue around the NMH is bonkers, not necessarily due to the current governing parties but symptomatic of a broken system, poor civil service oversight, issues that any government would be facing. If it were to happen again then government need a rap over the knuckles. We have had significant improvement in NRA projects coming in on time and under budget so a template is there.

[Nesta99]

SF policy is a free everything for everybody without having to actually work and paid for by someone else.........
I pity the poor someone elses.;)

I wouldnt be pitying the bankers throwing the loans at a shinner govt with the fortune they'd make, they wanted to default in the past so if things got out of hand in the future.....well it'd be some mess for the rest to clean up in a subsequent Dail.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

If those numbers hold up for the Brandywell its bound to add weight to getting phases 2 and 3 of the new stand on the agenda quicker!? Agreed on Tallaght, its the sort of night we would have been dreaming of not so long ago - big crowd in a modern ground and a good game as a poke in the eye for the dismissive EPL barstooler. I see that there looked to be building supplies behind the goal, I presume thats for the 4th stand? Do Rovers fans think the additional capacity could be filled or will it become an away section type thing. Last nights game was a super attendance but was it a sell out. Its prudent when you get close to safe capacity that there is an increase but I think it would have taken from the overall impression of a packed ground if there was an empty stand there. Any consideration of rail seating for safe standing areas - I hate sitting in any ground!!

An empty stand is still better than having an empty space ar one end of the ground and surely that fourth stand would be used for away supporters anyway which would create a far better atmosphere

[EatYerGreens]

no doubt the SF election manifesto will now include at least 2 new stadiums for every county

Strictly for GAA use only though. Lest we all become West Brit tans by watching players kick the ball without using their hands.

[JC_GUFC]

A few recent Galway United attendances

A v Cobh 652

A v Wexford 342

I'm still looking for official attendances for our away games at Bray & Athlone.

[pineapple stu]

I'd say about 1800 at the Bowl last night. More than the Bohs game earlier; plenty of people sitting/standing on the grass banks, which was a nice retro touch

[WeAreRovers]

I'd say about 1800 at the Bowl last night. More than the Bohs game earlier; plenty of people sitting/standing on the grass banks, which was a nice retro touch

All there to see my son do mascot and play HT game with Mount Merrion Youths. And to hassle some former Hoops and Mount Merrion keeper for autographs and selfies.

[placid casual]

I'd say about 1800 at the Bowl last night. More than the Bohs game earlier; plenty of people sitting/standing on the grass banks, which was a nice retro touch

The security guy at the front gate end side of the ground was reluctant to let anyone sit/stand on the grass banks in the 2nd half to watch the end that Rovers were shooting in to, but once it was realized that there was no immediate threat to anyone's existence there was a relaxation of the rules.
Have always enjoyed the relative calm of games in belfield, as a juxtaposition to the experience of most away games for Rovers

[pineapple stu]

Yeah, grass banks technically aren't allowed under licensing afaik. But as something different, it's a nice way to watch a game. Used to do the same in Belfield Park from time to time too

[sbgawa]

you should get the ucd gardeners to build railway sleepers into the bank over the summer , be nice eco friendly terrace.

[EalingGreen]

Yeah, grass banks technically aren't allowed under licensing afaik. But as something different, it's a nice way to watch a game. Used to do the same in Belfield Park from time to time too
You'd never get away with that in the Irish League. Never mind the League regulations, the local Council H&S officials are ridiculously strict, limiting capacities to far below what is reasonable or necessary.

As for UCD, surely it would only take someone eg to slip over on a grass bank and break his ankle after an unexpected shower of rain, for a big, fat compensation claim to follow?

So that if grass-standing should actually be contrary to LOI regulations, it wouldn't just be the claimant who lacked a leg to stand on!

[ToberonaTornado]

I wouldnt be pitying the bankers throwing the loans at a shinner govt with the fortune they'd make, they wanted to default in the past so if things got out of hand in the future.....well it'd be some mess for the rest to clean up in a subsequent Dail.
You make some really good & pertinent points in your posts but ruin the whole fkn jelly by sticking in a low blow stupid and totally unnecessary political dig.. I'm here for football/soccer/LoI crap talk and memes.the owner here has kindly provided a sub forum for political shi+ talk for those who are interested.
We get politics and all the baggage that goes with it 24/7/ on msm, leave us with a space away from it .....please.

[Nesta99]

I was simply replying to calcio - occasionally I must hit the nail on the head and I wonder if it were FF/FG that got the brunt of it would it have cause such ire?

[ToberonaTornado]

I was simply replying to calcio - occasionally I must hit the nail on the head and I wonder if it were FF/FG that got the brunt of it would it have cause such ire?

just so there is no mistake -

.. I'm here for football/soccer/LoI crap talk and memes.the owner here has kindly provided a sub forum for political shi+ talk for those who are interested.
We get politics and all the baggage that goes with it 24/7/ on msm, leave us with a space away from it .....please.

Ie

GTF!

[Nesta99]

Your slightly sensitive replies outnumber my original post, but as there is the mood for back seat modding I shall take it that Neish's comment on inept and self serving government in another thread, you will also take to task?!

[brendy_éire]

Derry-Dundalk sold out. (3.7k minus ??)

[sadloserkid]

Any chance we could move the Blueshirt waffle to another thread or, you know, the Rubbish forum? This post too ideally.

[JC_GUFC]

Galway United v Athlone: 1248

[EatYerGreens]

Galway United v Athlone: 1248

Good turnout for a game with presumably almost no travelling fans (?).

That would've been considered a decent crowd in the Premier for Galway pre-Covid. Which just shows how far things have come in a few years.

[nigel-harps1954]

About 500-600 in Finn park tonight. About 80 Dundalk fans which was good on a Monday night.

[2 Year Contract]

I’d have Pats Shels down as an estimate of 4,000 on Friday.

Pats Bohs as a bit less, maybe 3,900ish. Slightly smaller pats crowd tonight compared to Friday but Bohs brought a slightly bigger away crowd too compared to Shels, neither of which sold out the away end

[Nesta99]

Any chance we could move the Blueshirt waffle to another thread or, you know, the Rubbish forum? This post too ideally.

Are Limerick FC not already in the rubbish forum?

[brendy_éire]

Sligo- Derry: 1,973

[PartySaint]

3,473 at Pats vs Bohs as per the42.ie match report.

No figure for the Shels game that I can see anywhere but basing it off the figure for the Bohs crowd there was probably around 3,800 at the Shels game.

Disappointing to be below 4,000 for both.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

3,473 at Pats vs Bohs as per the42.ie match report.

No figure for the Shels game that I can see anywhere but basing it off the figure for the Bohs crowd there was probably around 3,800 at the Shels game.

Disappointing to be below 4,000 for both.

Yeah lot of gaps on the Camac which was disappointing , something that always annoys me a bit about attendances in the league , they’re so fickle

[EatYerGreens]

Yeah lot of gaps on the Camac which was disappointing , something that always annoys me a bit about attendances in the league , they’re so fickle

Monday night games are not great for a lot of people, and will always draw fewer than a Friday game. Particularly when they're not on a public holiday.

[D24Saint]

Monday night games are not great for a lot of people, and will always draw fewer than a Friday game. Particularly when they're not on a public holiday.

I have two mates from the local coming to home games regular this season. They would only do Fridays , I’d say a fair few fans operate like that. I was happy enough with the attendance last night, Bohs brought a very good away turn out for a Monday which helped.

[kksaints]

I have two mates from the local coming to home games regular this season. They would only do Fridays , I’d say a fair few fans operate like that. I was happy enough with the attendance last night, Bohs brought a very good away turn out for a Monday which helped.

I thought last night's attendance was fine considering it was a Monday, the poor result on Friday and our season's performances generally. Would be slightly disappointed with Friday's attendance.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

Monday night games are not great for a lot of people, and will always draw fewer than a Friday game. Particularly when they're not on a public holiday.

Ok lads I take it back