View Full Version : Gavin Bazunu G Standard Liege (loan from Southampton) b.2002
third policeman
07/03/2023, 5:07 PM
He's 24, has played four league games to date in his career so far and is unlikely to play for his club again this season. And you'd be massively surprised if he is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL team this time next season? I think at this stage it is clear he wants to be at Liverpool, maybe pushing to be Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Lunatic fringe :-)
Let's revisit this next season and until then we can respectfully beg to differ. It's very far from "clear" that he wants to stay at Liverpool and be first choice for cup games. His own comments and consistent media speculation would strongly suggest he is looking for a move at the end of this season. He's very highly rated by Liverpool fans, and more importantly by pundits and former players. The lunatic fringe comment was directed at those suggesting he shouldn't even be in the squad. Not sure if you are suggesting that, but if the cap fits....
pineapple stu
07/03/2023, 5:17 PM
Yes, the recent mistakes thing was clearly about Southampton. For Ireland, it has been an odd error, same as Kelleher really but you probably could pick any player and pick out a few mistakes. Really nothing to be too concerned about for a 20 year old. The game is in two weeks and Bazunu will start and rightfully so. Again, it's a no brainer. Circumstances will have to change amongst the goalkeeper candidates to change that.
The irony here of course is that you'll accuse Kenny supporters of being stuck with their opinions and blind to arguments to the contrary.
Kelleher has not made as many high-profile mistakes (in part because he's played some cushty games of course)
For Bazunu, we're not talking "a few mistakes"; we're talking potentially one of the weakest seasons a PL goalkeeper has ever seen.
elatedscum
07/03/2023, 5:46 PM
In fairness I could have kept a clean sheet against Qatar that day! Lithuania(?) too. Point taken but not fully like for like I think. Each was really frustrating because I wanted a good look at him and he barely touched the ball.
But of course he's capable.
I guess Qatar was 2021 - but yeah, Lithuania and Malta. Both played Armenia and Scotland. Both had one higher profile friendly (Belgium and Norway) and Kelleher had the two games against Ukraine.
It’s pretty simplistic just to say, he conceded x and he conceded y - without any consideration for what the games entailed - but it does undermine people suggesting he shouldn’t be in the squad.
If you look purely at irish form, both have done very well. You could give Bazunu extra points for playing regularly but Kelleher maintained quality performances for Ireland and Liverpool while only playing occasionally. Equally you could remove points for Bazunu’s current form.
Personally I’d lean Kelleher - but I think most would/should acknowledge it’s a really tight call either way - and to say the decision is a no-brainer is just wrong
BOOMSHAKALAKA
07/03/2023, 9:17 PM
The irony here of course is that you'll accuse Kenny supporters of being stuck with their opinions and blind to arguments to the contrary.
Kelleher has not made as many high-profile mistakes (in part because he's played some cushty games of course)
For Bazunu, we're not talking "a few mistakes"; we're talking potentially one of the weakest seasons a PL goalkeeper has ever seen.
Like I said, as long as he's good for Ireland, then I don't really care what he does for Southampton and he has been good for us. With only a few mistakes. Now, obviously it would be better if he was showing good form at club level. When Kelleher had a few games in quick succession for Liverpool, I felt he had moved into the number 1 position for us, so I'm open to change. But he hasn't done anything since then. That's why the obvious choice is Bazunu, no matter how hard you stamp your feet.
John83
07/03/2023, 10:49 PM
... no matter how hard you stamp your feet.
mod warning Look, cut this **** out.
ifk101
08/03/2023, 6:39 AM
Let's revisit this next season and until then we can respectfully beg to differ. It's very far from "clear" that he wants to stay at Liverpool and be first choice for cup games. His own comments and consistent media speculation would strongly suggest he is looking for a move at the end of this season. He's very highly rated by Liverpool fans, and more importantly by pundits and former players. The lunatic fringe comment was directed at those suggesting he shouldn't even be in the squad. Not sure if you are suggesting that, but if the cap fits....
In October 2021 you wrote
I don’t think either Kelleher or Bazunu have any real prospect of becoming first choice at their respective clubs. Not because they are not good enough, but simply because of who is in front of them. As things stand, I suspect Kelleher’s next move could be a transfer rather than a loan. Liverpool don’t want to loan him out, but nor would they stand in the way of a good career move. Bazunu on the other hand could well end up back at City as number 2. Paradoxically, Kelleher could be further ahead in terms of the trajectory of his career, and could, by next season be playing more regularly at a higher level.
Not calling you up on this, as making predictions are difficult for the best of us, but in the time since you made the above post Kelleher has played 0 minutes in the PL and Bazunu has 25 starts for Southampton. That Kelleher could be further in his career trajectory in October 2021, there is no doubting Bazunu is further ahead in his career trajectory now - simply because he went out on loan and had two seasons of senior football to motivate the move to Southampton. Kelleher may be highly rated by all at Liverpool, and he has done fine when called upon by us, but he really should have chosen what Bazunu did and is currently doing. Playing time is key. Difficult to motivate a move to a fellow PL side and expect a starting place without it. And by extension, a starting position for us. Bazunu may ultimately make 10+ mistakes against France, but starting him is the correct choice.
third policeman
08/03/2023, 8:01 AM
Bazunu went on loan at a time when he was City’s 3rd or 4th choice keeper. It was an easier decision to make as he was nowhere near getting games or even making the bench. It probably wasn’t even his decision. Presenting this as evidence of ambition, confidence, courage and disparaging Kelleher, who was a recognised number 2, is absolute nonsense. Their situations were completely different. It’s equally nonsensical to assert that a player’s form or their propensity to make mistakes count for nothing so long as they are playing regularly. There is a strong and valid case for selecting Bazunu, but we are now hearing arguments that are increasingly tenuous and irrational.
ifk101
08/03/2023, 8:33 AM
Bazunu went on loan at a time when he was City’s 3rd or 4th choice keeper. It was an easier decision to make as he was nowhere near getting games or even making the bench. It probably wasn’t even his decision. Presenting this as evidence of ambition, confidence, courage and disparaging Kelleher, who was a recognised number 2, is absolute nonsense. Their situations were completely different. It’s equally nonsensical to assert that a player’s form or their propensity to make mistakes count for nothing so long as they are playing regularly. There is a strong and valid case for selecting Bazunu, but we are now hearing arguments that are increasingly tenuous and irrational.
There is a three-year age gap between Bazunu and Kelleher. Kelleher became Liverpool’s second choice around this time 2 years ago, when he was 22. Bazunu has just turned 21 in February. I hope you’ll join me in sharing belated birthday wishes.
Jd2793
08/03/2023, 8:49 AM
There is a three-year age gap between Bazunu and Kelleher. Kelleher became Liverpool’s second choice around this time 2 years ago, when he was 22. Bazunu has just turned 21 in February. I hope you’ll join me in sharing belated birthday wishes.
so what?
third policeman
08/03/2023, 9:26 AM
All a bit elliptical. I'm struggling to see how that supports your argument. If anything, Bazunu being younger and further down the pecking order, makes his "decision" to go on loan more obvious and less courageous, ambitious or whatever other quality of his establishes his overall superiority to Kelleher. Similarly, his "decision" to move to Southampton was undoubtedly influenced by a calculation that he would still be a third or fourth choice at City. His career moves have been dictated by circumstances and not by some inherently more laudable trait of character. The fact that Bazunu's character rather than his form is being relied upon as selection criteria is in itself revealing.
ifk101
08/03/2023, 10:00 AM
You said “I'd be massively surprised if Kelleher is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side next season”. Kelleher hasn’t played in the PL since Oct 21 and has only 4 PL appearances in total. At 24. You subsequently wanted to respectively differ when this statement was questioned to which it was (politely) shown you have a history of being wrong in similar predictions. Using Bazunu as a comparison, I’ve pointed out to you what career path Kelleher should have taken to be a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side. Nonsense you say as Kelleher is a number 2 and can’t be compared to Bazunu, but he wasn’t a number 2 at Bazunu’s current age or at the age when Bazunu went on loan to Rochdale and Portsmouth. As it is now, being Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Elliptical :-)
Jd2793
08/03/2023, 10:03 AM
You said “I'd be massively surprised if Kelleher is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side next season”. Kelleher hasn’t played in the PL since Oct 21 and has only 4 PL appearances in total. At 24. You subsequently wanted to respectively differ when this statement was questioned to which it was (politely) shown you have a history of being wrong in similar predictions. Using Bazunu as a comparison, I’ve pointed out to you what career path Kelleher should have taken to be a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side. Nonsense you say as Kelleher is a number 2 and can’t be compared to Bazunu, but he wasn’t a number 2 at Bazunu’s current age or at the age when Bazunu went on loan to Rochdale and Portsmouth. As it is now, being Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Elliptical :-)
this might surprise you but no player develops the same as another especially one who'd been playing outfield until he was 15
third policeman
08/03/2023, 3:18 PM
You said “I'd be massively surprised if Kelleher is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side next season”. Kelleher hasn’t played in the PL since Oct 21 and has only 4 PL appearances in total. At 24. You subsequently wanted to respectively differ when this statement was questioned to which it was (politely) shown you have a history of being wrong in similar predictions. Using Bazunu as a comparison, I’ve pointed out to you what career path Kelleher should have taken to be a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side. Nonsense you say as Kelleher is a number 2 and can’t be compared to Bazunu, but he wasn’t a number 2 at Bazunu’s current age or at the age when Bazunu went on loan to Rochdale and Portsmouth. As it is now, being Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Elliptical :-)
Clearly I was wrong about Kelleher getting a move to another PL side at the time of the original posting, but he made a rational decision to stay at Liverpool. To say that Kelleher "should have taken" the career path you suggest to enhance his chances of getting a move to a PL side, I think is a totally unverifiable piece of speculation. By staying at Liverpool he got additional high profile exposure during last year's successful League Cup run and now has an enhanced chance of getting the right kind of move when he decides to leave. There seems to be a growing acceptance by LFC fans that he will move at the end of the season, and we'll see where he ends up. There is a similar likelihood that Southampton will be relegated. So if Kelleher is playing in the PL next season, and Bazunu isn't does this suddenly mean that Kelleher has become a better player? The point I was actually making was thatdthe fact that Bazunu is playing regularly in the PL (albeit somewhat inconsistently) does not in itself mean that he should be selected as our first choice keeper. There are other legitimate considerations, ans some obviously spurious ones.
third policeman
08/03/2023, 7:41 PM
You said “I'd be massively surprised if Kelleher is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side next season”. Kelleher hasn’t played in the PL since Oct 21 and has only 4 PL appearances in total. At 24. You subsequently wanted to respectively differ when this statement was questioned to which it was (politely) shown you have a history of being wrong in similar predictions. Using Bazunu as a comparison, I’ve pointed out to you what career path Kelleher should have taken to be a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side. Nonsense you say as Kelleher is a number 2 and can’t be compared to Bazunu, but he wasn’t a number 2 at Bazunu’s current age or at the age when Bazunu went on loan to Rochdale and Portsmouth. As it is now, being Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Elliptical :-)
Well there's a surprise
https://twitter.com/reptracker/status/1633550569666142210?s=20
tetsujin1979
08/03/2023, 8:51 PM
Well there's a surprise
https://twitter.com/reptracker/status/1633550569666142210?s=20
They've attributed the rumour to Jacque Talbot - https://twitter.com/jac_talbot - who writes for transfers.com
There's nothing his twitter account about Kelleher, but he did link to a Liverpool transfer story on the site earlier today (not going to link, that site is beyond clickbait)
Thisis the only mention of Kelleher
Those earmarked for a probable move include Caoimhin Kelleher, Konstantinos Tsimikas, Joel Matip and Nat Phillips, who is currently being watched by Hertha Berlin.
Just once I'd like it if these accounts did some checking
<EDIT>
Already debunked by elatedscum
Totally unreliable source (Jacque Talbot):
“In terms of the aforementioned outgoings. Those earmarked for a probable move include Caoimhin Kelleher, Konstantinos Tsimikas, Joel Matip and Nat Phillips, who is currently being watched by Hertha Berlin. The Bundesliga side tried to sign him on loan on Deadline Day but Jurgen Klopp pulled the plug at the last minute.”
It’s basic stuff. They’ve got 6 squad members who are out of contract (Firmino, Keita, Ox, Milner, Adrian, Arthur). Liverpool are going to need a lot of money to sign the lads they want to come in to replace them. So there’s a relatively small pool of non-essential players they could sell. On the other hand, they’d need to spend a lot to replace Kelleher and he is homegrown which is a big advantage to Liverpool.
If I was guessing what would happen, I’d say Spurs sign Martinez and Kelleher goes to Villa for £20-25mIf Adrian does leave, does that mean that Kelleher is more likely to stay? Can Liverpool lose both their backup goalkeepers, and replace them, in one transfer window?
third policeman
09/03/2023, 6:00 PM
Probably belongs on the Kelleher thread, but seems kind of apposite
https://thetransferroom.com/liverpool/exclusive-liverpool-caoimhin-kelleher-leave-celtic-leicester-aston-villa
seanfhear
09/03/2023, 6:10 PM
Probably belongs on the Kelleher thread, but seems kind of apposite
https://thetransferroom.com/liverpool/exclusive-liverpool-caoimhin-kelleher-leave-celtic-leicester-aston-villa
Celtic have more chance of buying me as a goal-keeper than buying Kelleher for £30 Million or even £10 Million.
In a certain way ~ The less that Kelleher is sold for, the better for him, to keep the pressure off.
It could be all nonsense anyway but it will be interesting to see what happens ?
elatedscum
09/03/2023, 6:24 PM
Probably belongs on the Kelleher thread, but seems kind of apposite
https://thetransferroom.com/liverpool/exclusive-liverpool-caoimhin-kelleher-leave-celtic-leicester-aston-villa
Another article from a very dubious source. Honestly, I feel any intelligent forum member here could put these stories together.
Can’t see him going to Celtic. I think Harvey Davies is capable of being the third choice but from what I’ve seen, he’s at least a season away from being ready to be Liverpool’s number 2.
pineapple stu
12/03/2023, 2:43 PM
Seems to have made an excellent save in Old Trafford to keep the score at 0-0 with minutes to go; United down to ten men since the half-hour mark but still seems a solid enough performance overall as things stand.
Played very well and made a great save in the first half too. Switched over to the rugby though so haven’t seen the second half performance.
Asterix
12/03/2023, 2:59 PM
Three clean sheets in his last four games now.
CraftyToePoke
12/03/2023, 3:11 PM
Three clean sheets in his last four games now.
And under some of the most immense pressure the game can offer.
Meanwhile in other news Kelleher has hurt himself doing nothing again, Pineapple, did you see ?
pineapple stu
12/03/2023, 3:15 PM
Yep, Kelleher's injury record is rivalling Ryan Giggs' at this stage unfortunately. You can tell there's an international break coming up.
tommy_c12000
12/03/2023, 3:30 PM
Good game today. Best I’ve seen him with Southampton. Two excellent saves and confident throughout
nigel-harps1954
12/03/2023, 4:17 PM
Getting a clean sheet in Old Trafford is a big boost to the lad. Great for him.
seanfhear
12/03/2023, 4:44 PM
Yep, Kelleher's injury record is rivalling Ryan Giggs' at this stage unfortunately. You can tell there's an international break coming up.
You'd think that Liverpool would actually want the chance of him playing a game ! ! !
Razors left peg
12/03/2023, 5:10 PM
Does Kelleher have a strained ar$e cheek from sitting on bench. It's a long grueling season
CraftyToePoke
12/03/2023, 5:15 PM
Yep, Kelleher's injury record is rivalling Ryan Giggs' at this stage unfortunately. You can tell there's an international break coming up.
Are you saying Kelleher doesn't love the Eire sufficiently ?
Is that where we are now at ?
ontheotherhand
12/03/2023, 5:57 PM
Great to see Bazunu finding a bit of form.
Sad to see Kelleher injured again. How does he keep getting injured as a back up keeper with some of the best medical staff and coaches in world football around him? How is he going to handle playing regularly?
Bazunu is back as my #1 choice regardless but it would have been nice to have Kelleher as an option and maybe have another look for a half against Latvia. As it stands Bazunu should play every minute of both games.
elatedscum
12/03/2023, 7:31 PM
Yep, Kelleher's injury record is rivalling Ryan Giggs' at this stage unfortunately. You can tell there's an international break coming up.
In fairness, Kelleher has only missed two camps - March 2021 (the one where Bazunu got his place first), and September 2022. Bazunu has also missed two (March 2022 and June 2022), Bazunu missing 6 games compared to Kelleher's 5.
pineapple stu
12/03/2023, 7:40 PM
Really? Feels like more. I guess I'm adding in the Cup games he's missed with Liverpool. They take on extra significance when it's all he gets. Fairly sure he's had some injuries around then anyway.
(The Ryan Giggs comparison was a bit unfair on my part! Wasn't it Liverpool or Man Utd in the past (80s maybe) who'd have their Irish players injured for international breaks where possible, and back in league action at the weekend? Or am I gone totally mad?)
BOOMSHAKALAKA
12/03/2023, 9:02 PM
Bazunu cements his place as our number one. He's recovered well from a few patchy moments at his club. Even without Kellehers injury, I think there wasn't much question about who'd be starting for us. Not sure why there was so much chatter about it.
Jd2793
13/03/2023, 11:43 AM
bazunu was touch and go to be no1 according to posters here on friday now after his first very good game in weeks hes a cert. do people realise how ridiculous all of this sounds?
SkStu
13/03/2023, 12:50 PM
there were only one or two posters that legitimately thought he was touch and go.
pineapple stu
13/03/2023, 1:10 PM
And I suppose Boomers, who says he's a cert, has never been one to not have faith in his own opinion, so not entirely a fair comparison.
But I think there is a point there though - he's had two very good games lately (Chelsea and Man Utd) and he'll get hyped up, but in the other games in his last four, he's made three very bad errors, one of which did cost his side a goal and the other two of which arguably should have, and they've been quietly forgotten.
There's confirmation bias on both sides of course. Both sides - and I've said before that I don't recall a divide like Kelleher/Bazunu before really - will see what suits their argument and run with it*. The reality is in the middle somewhere; one swallow doesn't make a summer and so on.
Hopefully the very good games start becoming more numerous though.
* - I saw someone over in the Shelbyville that is YBIG post a table that claimed he was statistically the third best keeper in the league earlier in the season, and wouldn't back down from that view even when it was pointed out the table was sorted in alphabetical order!
BOOMSHAKALAKA
13/03/2023, 2:40 PM
Look Stu. I'm not arguing with you or anyone else on this site. I'm just explaining why I'm right.
And I suppose Boomers, who says he's a cert, has never been one to not have faith in his own opinion, so not entirely a fair comparison.
But I think there is a point there though - he's had two very good games lately (Chelsea and Man Utd) and he'll get hyped up, but in the other games in his last four, he's made three very bad errors, one of which did cost his side a goal and the other two of which arguably should have, and they've been quietly forgotten.
There's confirmation bias on both sides of course. Both sides - and I've said before that I don't recall a divide like Kelleher/Bazunu before really - will see what suits their argument and run with it*. The reality is in the middle somewhere; one swallow doesn't make a summer and so on.
Hopefully the very good games start becoming more numerous though.
* - I saw someone over in the Shelbyville that is YBIG post a table that claimed he was statistically the third best keeper in the league earlier in the season, and wouldn't back down from that view even when it was pointed out the table was sorted in alphabetical order!
I'm kind of proud of the fact that i have only ever visited YBIG once or twice and that was years ago now at this stage. Enough to turn me off completely. This is far and away the best forum for discussion...
But i digress... the only point i was making was to Jd's post which seemed to suggest that there was a groundswell against GB before the weekend among this group and it just isnt the case. There are only one or two that suggested he would be second to CK at this point. I'll go back to one of your earlier points, neither one are in an ideal situation - but - the jersey belongs to GB and it would take a big change in circumstances for CK in order for him to dislodge him based on all of the evidence before us (I recognize you don't agree with that).
paul_oshea
13/03/2023, 3:24 PM
Put the two of them together and you get (a) GoalKeeper.
I think JD was referring to stu actually. But stu used it to suit his argument.
pineapple stu
13/03/2023, 4:07 PM
I'm kind of proud of the fact that i have only ever visited YBIG once or twice and that was years ago now at this stage. Enough to turn me off completely. This is far and away the best forum for discussion...
But i digress... the only point i was making was to Jd's post which seemed to suggest that there was a groundswell against GB before the weekend among this group and it just isnt the case. There are only one or two that suggested he would be second to CK at this point.
There was maybe more people thinking that it wasn't completely open and shut than in recent months, which certainly isn't a groundswell against him alright.
YBIG kind of feels like the English Premier League fans' Ireland forum. It split from here back in the day, didn't it? First item on any Irish organisation's agenda - the split...
YBIG kind of feels like the English Premier League fans' Ireland forum. Hadn't thought of it like this before but that's bang on. The posters there mostly just believe whatever they want to be true. Just like how fanatical Liverpool/United do when you talk to them.
Anyways, just saw the highlights of the game at the weekend. The first time I can remember this season of him looking like the player we know from Ireland games. There has been some luck involved but hopefully the recent clean sheets will give him confidence and the whole team can kick on. The bottom of the epl table is so close that a decent run of form could see them 12th.
ontheotherhand
13/03/2023, 4:40 PM
bazunu was touch and go to be no1 according to posters here on friday now after his first very good game in weeks hes a cert. do people realise how ridiculous all of this sounds?
I don't think it's ridiculous Jd. We have two keepers who have always been close in most people's eyes. One is playing but making mistakes we probably can't afford to make against France and the other has been fairly reliable when called upon for club and country even if he isn't playing enough. If they were two strikers it wouldn't sound ridiculous to discuss.
Bazunu isn't undroppable as much as I like him. I've always favoured him over Kelleher but at the same time I could understand why people thought Kelleher, on the bench in the EPL, was a better choice than Bazunu, playing in L1.
I doubt Kenny was ever considering switching to be fair but if nobody was looking at Gavin's form and thinking it might be a risk I'd be surprised. He probably would have been dropped for McCarthy if McCarthy wasn't injured earlier in the season.
Delighted he's turned that form around in recent weeks. It wasn't just the United game. He's still had a few errors but generally seems much better under Selles. 1 goal conceded in 4 league games is the sort of form that will have Southampton climbing out of the pit.
tommy_c12000
13/03/2023, 5:49 PM
Bazunu is our only credible starting option currently. That hasn’t changed over the past 4 months.
Razors left peg
13/03/2023, 6:21 PM
It's amazing how Bazunu has suddenly become good in some people eyes in recent games. I don't mean anyone on here, its the Twitter idiots I'm talking about.
The supposed uptick in Bazunus form has happened since they changed the manager. Seems to me that he is now playing behind a half decent team compared to earlier in season so he's no longer getting the blame for their defense being sh1te. Also a reason why the goalkeeper stats for him being worst in league are pointless. A goalkeeper is only as good as what's in front of him for the most part. Yes he can play a big part but if the red sea is being parted in front of him every week, there fcuk all he call do.
I've stood on this point from the outset, he's an outstanding keeper, especially given his age, and the fact that he's even in Premiership at this age shows his talent. I think he'll be in a Champions League team in the not too distant future.
Kelleher seems like a good keeper, but I think it could be overstated given that he plays for Liverpool and they have massive support in Ireland. We don't know, considering how little he plays.
Since the start of this season when one of the signed to become 1st choice keeper and the other decided to stay in his comfort zone there was never any decision to be made for me on who should be the Irish #1. I didn't agree with it, but I could understand the argument when Bazunu was only in L1.
At this point unless Bazunu completely falls of a cliff with his form there's shouldn't be any doubt about our goalkeeper choice until Kelleher proves he can be a club keeper
John83
14/03/2023, 2:55 AM
Kelleher seems like a good keeper, but I think it could be overstated given that he plays for Liverpool and they have massive support in Ireland. We don't know, considering how little he plays.
I put a lot of stock in how he kept Adrian off the bench for Liverpool - Adrian having had a very decent career of his own - but the longer he doesn't play, the less certain I am of him. He could be really excellent, or he may some day take the O'Hara route into obscurity. I think it's more likely to be close to the former route, but who knows?
Razors left peg
14/03/2023, 3:13 AM
I put a lot of stock in how he kept Adrian off the bench for Liverpool - Adrian having had a very decent career of his own - but the longer he doesn't play, the less certain I am of him. He could be really excellent, or he may some day take the O'Hara route into obscurity. I think it's more likely to be close to the former route, but who knows?
That's a fair point, but it's also very different being able to focus week in week out as the main man.
I hope we find out soon
Stuttgart88
14/03/2023, 9:35 AM
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Just for context, this guy's level is Huddersfield. Of course it's only a short highlights reel and maybe he's rubbish at crosses but stil...
Stuttgart88
14/03/2023, 9:39 AM
I think it's a bit unfair to say Kelleher is "deciding to stay in his comfort zone". He's at one of the best clubs in the world and got to play some key games. Staying at Arsenal until 28(?), barely used, didn't do Emi Martinez any harm.
Of course Kelleher has to take the plunge sometime and I reckon now is about the right time to do it.
nigel-harps1954
14/03/2023, 10:06 AM
I think it's a bit unfair to say Kelleher is "deciding to stay in his comfort zone". He's at one of the best clubs in the world and got to play some key games. Staying at Arsenal until 28(?), barely used, didn't do Emi Martinez any harm.
Of course Kelleher has to take the plunge sometime and I reckon now is about the right time to do it.
To be fair, Martinez had six different loan moves during his time at Arsenal, and had 102 senior appearances behind him before he joined Aston Villa.
joey B
18/03/2023, 2:50 PM
Dear god Southampton are terrible at the back,Spurs right back had a good 15/20 yards of space to whack in a goal there,absolutely no chance for the keeper….
Colbert Report
15/04/2023, 3:32 PM
Southampton are going down for sure, absolutely played off the park against Crystal Palace today.
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