Nathan Collins D Brentford b.2001

[liamoo11]

There is a Collins on stoke city bench tonight might be nathan Collins the under 18s centre half

[TrapAPony]

There is a Collins on stoke city bench tonight might be nathan Collins the under 18s centre half

It is him alright.

[Closed Account]

Couple of quick red cards and he's on for the last half hour.

[Olé Olé]

Awesome. 17 years old. Great stuff.

Looked class for our 17s.

[Cathalsmart]

Looks to have done very well tonight under very difficult circumstances.

[MancIrishWolf]

Article on him here:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-nathan-collins-swansea-2741177.amp

[SkStu]

Big commanding talker, a captain. Can bring it out too.

Could be one of those "I remember when I saw him first" players.

[Diggs246]

With suspensions of 2 defenders he might start on Saturday

[samhaydenjr]

Terrific stuff, another player for Mick to watch in the short-term

[Olé Olé]

I thought he was our second best player against the Dutch, after Parrott. This will be interesting.

Kane also injured for Spurs last night meaning Spurs are extremely light on strikers again (Llorente and Janssen, Kazaiah Sterling is out on loan).

[liamoo11]

Parrott got 20 mins on Monday for the 23s after 60 mins on Saturday for the 18s so getting back to fitness

[paul_oshea]

Big commanding talker, a captain. Can bring it out too.

Could be one of those "I remember when I saw him first" players.

I'm sure I read this somewhere else, or perhaps just deja-vu.

[Stuttgart88]

He and Kameron Ledwidge were a classy pairing in the U16 Euros in England. Kingdom & I watched the Bosnia game together and they stood out, as did Luca Connell.

[Diggs246]

Starts today at LB. Amazing for a 17 year old

[liamoo11]

Starts today at LB. Amazing for a 17 year old

Great stuff. Be interesting to see how he gets on as a full back always great for a centre half to have the mobility to play reasonably at full back

[Olé Olé]

LiveScore have McClean and Edwards playing full back with Collins in a back 3. Might not be accurate.

They're down 1-0.

[Eirambler]

Sounds like he's been one of Stoke's best players. Still only 17 which is incredible. Looks a fantastic prospect.

[CraftyToePoke]

Another appearance from the bench today, only ten minutes at the end, but is was while they were 2 -2 with league leaders Norwich who needed a win to clinch promotion.

[CraftyToePoke]

The web is full of Collins to ManU today

An example - https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9107858/man-utd-stoke-collins-fletcher/

[liamoo11]

The web is full of Collins to ManU today

An example - https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9107858/man-utd-stoke-collins-fletcher/

Disappointing to see how young Collins stock has fallen he seemed destined for a big move a month ago!

[Eirambler]

Think I'd prefer him to stay another year at Stoke to be honest. Get a full year of first team football under his belt and if he's still a standout this time next year make the move to the Premier League then. Would worry that he'd get lost at United as an 18 year old similar to what has happened to Masterson at Liverpool.

[Cathalsmart]

I don’t get it, he’s not English qualified.

[Diggs246]

Think I'd prefer him to stay another year at Stoke to be honest. Get a full year of first team football under his belt and if he's still a standout this time next year make the move to the Premier League then. Would worry that he'd get lost at United as an 18 year old similar to what has happened to Masterson at Liverpool.

So would I. He needs to be playing.

[DeLorean]

Signs new five-year contract at Stoke - https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/teenage-defender-pens-new-deal

[Diggs246]

Starts today for stoke

[Eirambler]

Stoke going badly so far, sounds like Collins was culpable for one of the QPR goals.

[IsMiseSean]

Molumby and o shea get starts and Masterson on bench in cup tonight. Knight and Collins also start

Collins named as Stoke captain too.

[Razors left peg]

Collins named as Stoke captain too.

Just scored too!

[Olé Olé]

Such faith they have in Collins. He's 18 whilst goalkeeper Adam Federici is almost double his age!

[TrapAPony]

Captains Stoke today against Leeds

[tommy_c12000]

Solid game today by all accounts. Stoke fans pushing for him to start ahead of Lindsay and Batth. Ideally with Shawcross as his partner. It would be fantastic for him to get a run of games before the summer

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292990/nathan-collins

[MancIrishWolf]

Really encouraging response to his reintroduction to the team from the fans after their 0-0 against Blackburn midweek, having conceded 8 in their previous 2 away games (Lenihan captained Blackburn at the other end to their 3rd clean sheet in 4).

Seemingly very mature, comfortable on the ball and great positional sense, a strong kid too by the look of the size of him. A lot of talk about him being a “Rolls Royce of a player” and eventually good enough for a top European club.

A future pairing of him and O’Shea has great potential. No substitute for innate positional sense and footballing intelligence at the back. With Masterson and Lenihan waiting in the wings also, we should be sorted there for a while:

https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/293968/collins?page=1

[Olé Olé]

Just noticed he was still dropped back to the bench today.

[tommy_c12000]

Not surprising that on loan Chester was preferred in their ongoing relegation battle. But disappointing. Shawcross is now fit again and will be returning in next week or so. Such a shame that Stoke signed a 31 year old centre back on loan in January stunting Collins potential growth. He should see more game time before season ends though, looks very good

[tommy_c12000]

Came on at 85 minutes to try to protect their lead, as he’s done on a few occasions. Alas, Chester conceded a penalty in injury time with James Collins slotting home

[youngirish]

The forgotten man starts for the first time for Stoke in what seems like ages. Really needs to start impressing O'Neill but thrown in at the deep end away to Wolves. Hopefully its not too painful.

[tommy_c12000]

I saw he wasn’t even on bench at weekend when they played 3 central defenders. Currently 4th or 5th choice centre back? Definitely behind Chester, Batth, Indi Martins. Even though he’s young, he can’t settle for the same bit part appearances as last season. Should push for at least a short team league one loan until the new year. Needs regular football

[tommy_c12000]

Their 21 year old central defender Souttar really impressed tonight, fans calling for him to get a run in the first team. Makes Collins the current 5th choice centre back, although O’Neill seems to like 3-5-2

[Eirambler]

Sounds like he made his case with a good performance and a clean sheet tonight. Although his central defence partner Souttar (Australian senior international) also went well. Serious amount of competition at centre back there for a Championship club. Hopefully he can get games either at Stoke or go on loan, I have a huge amount of hope for this lad, think he's our best central defence prospect alongside O'Shea.

[tommy_c12000]

Yes, agree he’s got the pedigree and attributes to go all the way. But seems to have stagnated under O’Neill. He needs a loan ASAP like so many of our youngsters

[Olé Olé]

Not sure if I'd be that panicked. He just turned 19 at the end of April and has 17 league games. And they were in a relegation dogfight when O'Neill came in and I think Collins may have had a shaky game or two around that time. I don't think he needs a loan as soon as possible. He could take one in January if needs be. He'll still be 19.

[tommy_c12000]

Souttar starts today, Collins not on bench. Confirms him as 5th choice centre half. Hopefully he will push for a short term loan. I don’t buy into he’s only 19, he can be patient. He’s outgrown Mickey Mouse underage football. This is a crucial time in his development. Needs to drop down a division to get some solid experience now, rather than stagnating.

[tommy_c12000]

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-nathan-collins-4562827.amp

Remains “integral” to Michael O’Neills plans. I don’t quite see the clear path. With all the competition there he should certainly at least go for a shorter term loan

[livehead1]

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-nathan-collins-4562827.amp

Remains “integral” to Michael O’Neills plans. I don’t quite see the clear path. With all the competition there he should certainly at least go for a shorter term loan

It's a pretty average squad, he will get a chance when they lose a few games.

[Trequartista20]

I dunno. You've got to ask why did O'Neill, who by his own admission has an overly 'bloated' squad, sign Chester if he genuinely rated Collins that highly?

I fear Collins - a young player of extremely high potential from what I've seen of him - risks seeing his career stall if he doesn't get regular first-team football this season.

And that would be a real shame.

[seanfhear]

I dunno. You've got to ask why did O'Neill, who by his own admission has an overly 'bloated' squad, sign Chester if he genuinely rated Collins that highly?

I fear Collins - a young player of extremely high potential from what I've seen of him - risks seeing his career stall if he doesn't get regular first-team football this season.

And that would be a real shame.
Probably likes experienced centre backs. Some managers consider this very important in their centre backs.

[Trequartista20]

Probably, though you would have that thought that Batth, Shawcross and Martins-indi already provided that.

[youngirish]

He will be and has been given chances at Stoke. He just has to start taking those chances.

He will start again in the cup tonight. When given chances in the league his performances have generally been poor and that's why he hasn't made it into the first team.

Souttar is almost 3 years older than him so he really did need to start getting into the team.

[Eirambler]

Rave reviews for Collins and Souttar again - Stoke beat a weakened Aston Villa 1-0

[Trequartista20]

He's very highly rated by Stoke supporters. Certainly more so than Chester.

Deserves to be given a fair chance by O'Neill.