Eurovision Uberthread

[Lionel Ritchie]

I feel bad for the serious songwriters and performers who see the Eurovision as an oppurtunity for them to get established? ...yes indeed. In fact I'm off to see Charlie McGettigan in Marley Park this summer. I hear Niamh Kavanagh is on last on the opening night of T in the Park and Eimear Quinn is guest-vocaling with Slipknot at Download. ...and they're just the more recent ones who actually WON the fcuking thing!

[ifk101]

Johnny's still going strong. His latest work.

http://www.ginza.se/Archive/Images/item_img_large/19034.jpg

[NeilMcD]

You should see how Eurovision works in Sweden.

There're four qualifying rounds before you can get to the Swedish final. Each of these qualifying rounds are shown live on TV on Saturday nights with a television audience of approx. 3 million (a third of the Swedish population). Most of the acts would be established "stars" in Sweden and Scandinavia and the tabloids are full of gossip and what not leading up to each Saturday night. It's big business.

Compare this to how we approach Eurovision and it's easy to see that we really don't have a hope of winning anything. But luckily Dustin will save the day!

We tried that here except we did not use established acts. I don't think any established acts here would enter. Despite Westlife and Boyzone we don't have a huge amount of pop acts in this country that would enter this so the only people who did were the two gingers from Athlone.

Eurovision is a joke and no serious song writer would enter it any more. Could you imagine if Edge and Bono wrote a song for it and it did not win which if they entered the Ronnie Drew one, it probably would as its so crap.

[paul_oshea]

We tried that here except we did not use established acts. I don't think any established acts here would enter. Despite Westlife and Boyzone we don't have a huge amount of pop acts in this country that would enter this so the only people who did were the two gingers from Athlone.

Eurovision is a joke and no serious song writer would enter it any more. Could you imagine if Edge and Bono wrote a song for it and it did not win which if they entered the Ronnie Drew one, it probably would as its so crap.

It doesnt matter how much effort/talented someone is anymore ifk, thats the whole point, sweden can keep pumping money into it, it doesn't mean they are going to win, to actually take it serious and try to win it using talent, is the biggest joke of it all! :rolleyes:

[Lionel Ritchie]

It doesnt matter how much effort/talented someone is anymore ifk, thats the whole point, sweden can keep pumping money into it, it doesn't mean they are going to win, to actually take it serious and try to win it using talent, is the biggest joke of it all! :rolleyes:

Paul it's arguable that it's NEVER mattered how much talent and effort was invested. It's also arguable that the unquestionably talented ABBA were a worldwide success despite Eurovision -not because of it. But even if Eurovision was the making of ABBA ...that's one quality pop-band in what, 50-odd attempts?

[mypost]

I know we sing first in the semi-final on the Tuesday, but I actually want to see the final also whether we are in it or not and the final is on the Saturday

The BBC have confirmed that although they will show both semi-finals, the public will only vote in the second one (cutbacks?? :confused: :rolleyes: ) so if Dustin gets "Irlande douze points" in the first one, he'll have to find them from elsewhere. :cool:

[bennocelt]

Paul it's arguable that it's NEVER mattered how much talent and effort was invested. It's also arguable that the unquestionably talented ABBA were a worldwide success despite Eurovision -not because of it. But even if Eurovision was the making of ABBA ...that's one quality pop-band in what, 50-odd attempts?

some would argue that Abba arent really quality either!!!!

[mypost]

Dustin's first press conference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkREM2mK2x8&eurl=http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/11355

[SkStu]

Paul it's arguable that it's NEVER mattered how much talent and effort was invested. It's also arguable that the unquestionably talented ABBA were a worldwide success despite Eurovision -not because of it. But even if Eurovision was the making of ABBA ...that's one quality pop-band in what, 50-odd attempts?

em, excuse me, Bucks Fizz? Quali-T with a capital T.

[SkStu]

well ive just messed my head up with that stupid post. Have been humming "Making Your Mind Up" to myself for the last couple of days... :o

self-ruinification. :(

[Lionel Ritchie]

well ive just messed my head up with that stupid post. Have been humming "Making Your Mind Up" to myself for the last couple of days... :o

self-ruinification. :(

Like the drummer I once read about who played with a 70's satanic prog rock outfit but ended up in the Eurovision Song Contest house band -you fcuk with the forces of darkness at your peril.:cool:

[Green Tribe]

Haven't had a chance to hear the entries this year, no sound on computer at home or work :rolleyes:
There is a preview programme on RTE tonight about 23:00/23:45 showing all the entries, might watch that. I think I have heard the Azerbaijan entry ages ago, and it's quite catchy. Bit of a Prince character. I'm pretty certain Dustin will get through the semi-final.
I await mypost's expert opinion on the entries :o:D

[SkStu]

Like the drummer I once read about who played with a 70's satanic prog rock outfit but ended up in the Eurovision Song Contest house band -you fcuk with the forces of darkness at your peril.:cool:


i feel his eternal pain.

[mypost]

I'm pretty certain Dustin will get through the semi-final.
I await mypost's expert opinion on the entries:D

Dustin's entry will either win the whole thing, or fall flat on his face. It all depends on how the bloc react to a Dubliner in a sink singing about Terry Wogan, the revelations that the Danube flows through France rather than Belgrade, and whether he screeches out FYR Macedonia, instead of Macedonia. :o

On the genuine entries, Slovenia, Sweden, and Norway have the best songs, there's a Malteser screaming endlessly about how great Vodka is, a Spaniard auditioning for the Manuel role in "Fawlty Towers, The Sequel", and a Poland-singing Yank called Gee. :eek:

It could only happen in Eurovision.

[sligoman]

If Dustin doesn't win, I hope this does:D

udVl4XNx4PM

[bellavistaman]

good press conference

[Pike B]

Eurovision??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and so on and so forth...

[Partizan]

If Dustin doesn't win, I hope this does:D

udVl4XNx4PM

Brilliant. I dont think Spain has won the thing since la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la in '68 which subsequently rigged by Franco in order to prevent Cliff Richard from winning thus saving humanity.

[zenokelly]

Quick prediction before the semi results:

Dustin to scrape thru' and finish about 15th in the final.

I just don't think he was any more unique than a lot of others and I don't think that he's going to attract the support especially in Eastern Europe who won't get the gag.

[sligoman]

Got a few boo's from the crowd before and after he sang tonight, not sure if he'll even get through.

[bellavistaman]

fair enough observation, i say hell get through alright

[micls]

Gutted :(

[sligoman]

not sure if he'll even get through.Another year over!

[pineapple stu]

And we're out.

Didn't thnk much of the song to be honest. First time I'd actually heard it.

[Pauro 76]

Well Eastern Europe didnt get the joke. Saturday night, Eurovision party in shreds. Gutted. I'm not even sure I can watch it now. I quite like France's entry though. And the Finland one as well.

[DaveyCakes]

And they say Europeans have no taste in music!!

[the 12 th man]

Very hard to hear/understand him tonight which didn't help,it sounded all over the place.

[mypost]

Very hard to hear/understand him tonight which didn't help,it sounded all over the place.

It's supposed to be that way. :rolleyes:

10 countries qualified, 9 of them from Eastern Europe. No Slovenia, Moldova, Montenegro though, :eek: while all the votes from here got Poland through.

Obviously Norway got the jury vote. :rolleyes:

[Billsthoughts]

It was a bit of an embarressment. The song was atrocious whatever way you look at it. I thought Bosnia Herzegovinia has the best song faollowed by the Azerjaiban one. The rest of it was usual Eurovision fare with Dustin being by far the worst entry of the lot. Norway gets douze points for the mute button viewer.

[mypost]

usual Eurovision fare with Dustin being by far the worst entry of the lot.

It was meant to be that way.

Eurovision remains the only public concert, where no miming and no covers are allowed. It tests the singer to sing it the whole way through. Norway had a good song, and deserved to qualify, shame they had to rely on the jury to make it.

[deecay]

It was shocking and didnt deserve to get through.As bad as that fella with the long hair 2yrs ago.These people just disgrace themselves:o

[Ash]

Another year over!

Whats another year ..... :p

[Lionel Ritchie]

We've tried the diplomatic path, we've tried meeting these people half way and where's it gotten us? ...out on Tuesday that's where.

I tell you again there's only one language the whole of Europe understands and that's a sky made black with bombers. This can't go unanswered. We must return the swerve.

[the 12 th man]

It's supposed to be that way. :rolleyes:




You could not make out what he was saying so I don't think it was supposed to be like that?

[Billsthoughts]

You could not make out what he was saying so I don't think it was supposed to be like that?

It was just brutal. It wasnt funny or musical. A two year old could have come up with something better. I think the Eastern Europeans got it alrite.....got that it was unfunny sh*te..
This was the first ever year were Ihave actually listened to all the songs(I was trying to put a flat pack thingie todther) Anyways...the standard isnt that bad at all. The reason we have been doin so bad last few years isnt cause everyone goes for the novelty act. Its cause our songs have been brutal.

[Angus]

Anybody else utterly hacked off at the "funny" role played by Marty Whelan and Terry Wogan at this thing ?

It is now 15 years out of date i.e. this runnign commentary saying how ridiculous it all is and how cheesed off they are at being there and at how silly the whole thing is and look at the state of him and why did serbia vote for Croatia and I am long enough at this to be cynical and the costumes are getting worse and I can't believe Duystin didn't get through and here comes the tradiitonal Finland silly rock act......

Enough already

[Block G Raptor]

Watched it on BBC 3 last night and the presenters really really wanted dustin to fail. they even said he should be disqualified for having 7 people on stage when you are only allowed 6, they reckoned Dustin counted as one and the puppeteer who you couldn't see also counted as a separate person. they were practically cracking open the champagne when he was knocked out. "Ireland are completely and utterly and totally OUT!! beamed one presenter"

[Pauro 76]

Didnt one of the presenters have an Irish name. Paddy o'Connell or something. Who was the other bird presenting on BBC3? she was nice... who are these people, Wogan has nothing to fear...

[Block G Raptor]

= who are these people, Wogan has nothing to fear...

I think they won a competition or maybe they were the beaten finalists of a Song for Europe or whatever the Beeb have to select their eurovision entry

[bennocelt]

And they say Europeans have no taste in music!!


Well they certainly have no sense of humour, dry sh ites:(

only heard 3 songs, Poland , Finland and dustin, and the turkey was way ahead of them two

[bennocelt]

Anyways...the standard isnt that bad at all. The reason we have been doin so bad last few years isnt cause everyone goes for the novelty act. Its cause our songs have been brutal.


and what would you call the Finnish winner two years ago, or the ladyboy, or the lesbian winners?:rolleyes:

[Billsthoughts]

and what would you call the Finnish winner two years ago, or the ladyboy, or the lesbian winners?:rolleyes:

They WON it. We never even get any votes. The Russian and Israeli winners werent bad songs. Jesus Christ were was the humour in the Dustin song? It was totally unfunny. At one stage he made a fart noise and one of the backing singers waved her hand at her nose. A 2 year old wouldnt laugh at that???:confused: Its not the Europeans who have no sense of humour.....Next year we will put Jake Stephens in. Cause he is frickin hilarious man!!!!:rolleyes:

[luka]

Put yere dosh on Norway

[pineapple stu]

Marty Whelan in yesterday's Herald says he was told afterwards we'd come eleventh.

[mypost]

Marty Whelan in yesterday's Herald says he was told afterwards we'd come eleventh.

On the Ryan Show yesterday morning, Gerry said we came 12th.

The results are not released until after the final.

[bennocelt]

They WON it. We never even get any votes. The Russian and Israeli winners werent bad songs. Jesus Christ were was the humour in the Dustin song? It was totally unfunny. At one stage he made a fart noise and one of the backing singers waved her hand at her nose. A 2 year old wouldnt laugh at that???:confused: Its not the Europeans who have no sense of humour.....Next year we will put Jake Stephens in. Cause he is frickin hilarious man!!!!:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:the fact that we sent in an obvious pis s take of a song. It was rubbish, and it was corny. Thats why it is a joke, and jeez its funny to see so many people actually take the eurovision seriously considering in all its years it hasnt produced anything decent (including abba)

[mypost]

:rolleyes:the fact that we sent in an obvious pis s take of a song. It was rubbish, and it was corny. Thats why it is a joke, and jeez its funny to see so many people actually take the eurovision seriously considering in all its years it hasnt produced anything decent (including abba)

Eurovision was popular here until we started winning a few times in a row. The begrudgery in us couldn't handle it, so we wanted to go back to mediocrity, this was further aided by Wogan's trashing of every performance every year. :(

Today, the Eastern countries take the show extremely seriously, and pull out all the stops to give themselves the best chance. Yes, they have their voting procedures to help them, but the state broadcasters put out the top artists and the trendiest songs, and market them. They're not going on a pis-up, they're representing their country on one of the biggest tv stages there is. There are months of endless rehearsals, promo tours, press conferences, and finally the performance itself. The rewards for winning are massive. For the singer, european and global opportunities for their career; for the country, the honour of hosting the event, and on the week itself, a financial windfall for those in the local travel and retail industry. That's why the likes of Armenia and Azerbaijan enter it.

Our attitude is "choose a gobshy, and feed him to the wolves" Then we complain about the voting, having used the same procedure to choose our own artist. :rolleyes: Iceland, Norway and Portugal have made the final, we haven't. There's enough talent in our country for it to be the other way around.

[Billsthoughts]

:rolleyes:the fact that we sent in an obvious pis s take of a song. It was rubbish, and it was corny. Thats why it is a joke, and jeez its funny to see so many people actually take the eurovision seriously considering in all its years it hasnt produced anything decent (including abba)
But if it was a p*ss take why wasnt it funny? I actually just cringed when I saw it.

[bennocelt]

Today, the Eastern countries take the show extremely seriously, and pull out all the stops to give themselves the best chance. Yes, they have their voting procedures to help them, but the state broadcasters put out the top artists and the trendiest songs, and market them. They're not going on a pis-up, they're representing their country on one of the biggest tv stages there is. There are months of endless rehearsals, promo tours, press conferences, and finally the performance itself. The rewards for winning are massive. For the singer, european and global opportunities for their career; for the country, the honour of hosting the event, and on the week itself, a financial windfall for those in the local travel and retail industry. That's why the likes of Armenia and Azerbaijan enter it.yeah fair enuff, but they are all still fairly rubbish
But if it was a p*ss take why wasnt it funny? I actually just cringed when I saw it.but surely it was a **** take in the fact that it was cheesy and bad. I mean the fact that it got some boos was funny as well

[Risteard]

throw money on azerbaijan (90) or armenia lads.