Harry Arter M Precision Football b.1989

[DeLorean]

I can't quite recall when, but I swear there was a time when this forum wasn't just TOWK arguing with people from other forums that aren't here.

Fixed that for you.

[OwlsFan]

Haven't seen a huge amount of debate about our 'Arry's performance on Saturday. I thought he looked a bit lost in the first half, gave the ball away too much and was inclined to jump in a bit. Definitely improved in the second and was encouraging those around him and seemed to grow in to his role and be more comfortable. Hopefully now that he's got his first competitive game under his belt, he'll become one of the stalwarts of the side. His all action style suits our method of play at the moment.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Arter badly at fault for Liverpool's second this afternoon.

2-0 with 25 minutes gone.

[SkStu]

Although he gave the ball away it is hard to place him fully at fault. The situation was almost identical to how Hoolohan gave away the ball against Moldova for their equalizer including where on the pitch it happened. Enough happened between the ball being lost and the goal being scored to relieve Arter of "the blame". He did give it away fairly easily (he just seemed to be beaten for acceleration?) but the goal was preventable elsewhere.

He was very good in the second half (I didn't see the first).

[tricky_colour]

He lost the ball at the other end of the pitch, the Bournemouth defence seemed to evaporate. More to blame the Arter,
he didn't seem to play a role in the fight back really from what I saw on the highlights. Not his best game for sure,
but still 3 points v Liverpool looks pretty good.

[Wolfie]

Hoping the competitive debut will give him something to build on as a starter now. McCarthy can be a passenger in crucial games and Arter is more naturally inclined to impose himself on the game.

[DeLorean]

Oddly enough, I think McCarthy is more of a passenger in the less crucial games. His best performances for us have been against the likes of Sweden (WCQ), Germany, Italy, Bosnia, etc. Basically games where we need to did in and setting a creative tempo is secondary. I think Whelan should be the guy to make way for Arter and I think and hope O'Neill agrees.

[tricky_colour]

Whelan has stuck around for a long time at top level, 8 years in the Premiership I think.

[tricky_colour]

Guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/08/harry-arter-bournemouth-daughter


Harry Arter: ‘Some days I feel like a normal person. Then it will just hit you’ Saturday marks a year since Bournemouth’s midfielder and his fiancée Rachel lost their daughter. He reflects on 12 months of pain, anger, envy and finally happiness – at thoughts of a child gone too soon and another due in February

[DeLorean]

There seemed to be some sort of applause from both sets of supporters after eight minutes of the Burnley v Bournemouth match. I didn't quite catch what the commentator said but I think it was for Arter. Hendrick just after scoring a cracker to make it 1-0. Live on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

1 goal, 2 assists and 1 red card in 36 Premier League games so far.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Footballer sacked by club for jokes about Harry Arter’s stillborn child

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/footballer-sacked-by-club-for-jokes-about-harry-arter-s-stillborn-child-1.2925365

[tricky_colour]

What an idiot.

[OwlsFan]

Only on the bench on Saturday.

[tricky_colour]

Maybe just rested???

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Watford had a £15m bid rejected according to The Sun.

[DeLorean]

Mr. Pep has gone up several notches in my book after this. (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38967220)

[Yard of Pace]

Mr. Pep has gone up several notches in my book after this. (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38967220)

My Spanish pal, a Barcelona fan through and through, 100 percent believes it was merely a bit of grandstanding for the cameras and he's done that sort of thing before. I wanted to believe in it too, after seeing Pep's horrible petulance when Citay were going through their bad spell. Not to mention the not visiting Villanova in hospital thing....

Interesting to get another perpective anyhow .

[DeLorean]

Who knows really. It seemed to mean a lot to Arter anyway which is the main thing I suppose, whatever the motivation.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

100% for the cameras I reckon.

I feel awful for Arter's wife, having such a traumatic experience brought up time and time again.

Then maybe again, she finds it therapeutic?

Idk.

[Yard of Pace]

Who knows really. It seemed to mean a lot to Arter anyway which is the main thing I suppose, whatever the motivation.

I would agree with that.

Slightly OT but it can be real interesting getting a native's take on characters we only know from a distance.
Well , as a football nerd I find it fascinating.

[DannyInvincible]

'Joy as Harry Arter and partner Rachel announce the arrival of baby Raine': http://www.independent.ie/sport/article35461359.ece


Republic of Ireland midfielder Harry Arter and his partner Rachel are toasting the birth of their baby Raine Renne Arter, who was born in a London hospital on Friday evening.

The arrival will be greeted with relief and joy after the couple suffered the tragedy of a stillborn birth in December 2015, as baby Renee passed away before she got a chance to meet her expectant parents.
The joyous news was confirmed by Arter to friends early on Friday evening, before he posted a beautiful message on his Instagram account to make a more formal announcement.

“A rainbow baby is the understanding that the beauty of a rainbow does not negate the ravage of a storm,” read the message, which was clearly a tribute to Renee.
“When the rainbow appears, it doesn’t mean the storm never happened or that the family is now dealing with its aftermath.

“What is means is that something beautiful and full of light has appeared in the midst of the darkest clouds….”

...

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Looked very disappointed after Joshua King refused to allow him to take the penalty against West Brom last weekend.

Was subbed off on 66 minutes.

Hasn't been in great form over the last month or so, truthfully.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

GOAL! BOURNEMOUTH 0-1 WEST HAM (Antonio, 10)

Wow, from one end to the other in the blink of an eye as West Ham take the lead after Arter gifts the ball straight to Feghouli just outside his own area and the winger then feeds Antonio in the box, with the forward doing well to steer a low shot past Boruc.


http://www.skysports.com/football/bmouth-vs-west-ham/356606

[SkStu]

It was a really sloppy pass.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Eddie Howe said he would be surprised if Arter is fit enough to feature on Friday.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Balloons a terrible penalty over the bar.

[SkStu]

His standing foot completely gave way beneath him. Shocker.

[tricky_colour]

2 extra points for Bournmouth as Arter steps up to convert the try!

[SkStu]

3 points for Bournmouth as Arter steps up to convert the try!

Can't believe I'm correcting this but it was two points he got for converting the try. :D

[tricky_colour]

I knew he would he would miss felt it in my bones!

[tricky_colour]

Can't believe I'm correcting this but it was two points he got for converting the try. :D

Yes quite correct it is 3 for a penalty kick in rubgy.

[tricky_colour]

Seems pretty clear the penalty spot has been doctored.

The groundsman got the man of the match award.

[DannyInvincible]

Video of Arter's penalty miss:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKJbluY1cK8

[DannyInvincible]

As Gary Lineker pointed out tonight on 'MOTD', Arter's miss was oddly similar to another Harry's penalty miss from the very same spot just over three months ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwUdRSu-aRM

In both instances, the turf around the penalty spot dislodged underfoot which caused the penalty-taker's left foot to slip and the ball to move just as it was about to be struck.

[seanfhear]

That grounds man is a genius........

Train your own players to take penalties on his moving penalty spot area...opposition players will be bamboozled .....

[nigel-harps1954]

Is Southamptons penalty taker left footed and they take a gamble on opposition penalty takers being right footed?

[DeLorean]

Tadic usually takes them, doesn't he? He's very left footed for sure.

[seanfhear]

Is Southamptons penalty taker left footed and they take a gamble on opposition penalty takers being right footed?


Tadic usually takes them, doesn't he? He's very left footed for sure. That would be very clever.....only having left footed penalty takers on the home team .

How about some sort of tunnel under the penalty spots....video enabled ....and the kind of guy that you would need for such shenanigans secretly ensconced..........

[tricky_colour]

Tadic usually takes them, doesn't he? He's very left footed for sure.


I was think that their regular taker might be left footed, it would not work so well otherwise.

I guess they should test the ground first where they plant their foot first before taking the penalty.

[geysir]

That grounds man is a genius........

Train your own players to take penalties on his moving penalty spot area...opposition players will be bamboozled .....

It's all down to Uri

http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/uri-geller.jpg

[DannyInvincible]

What you said about Arter going go karting - I sincerely hope that's not true (at least the way you are portraying it). I know he had an injury prior to the Wales game and they (Bournemouth) pulled him out having given him every opportunity to make it. Harry has shown enough commitment to the cause for me. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Arter didn't head off go-karting by himself. The entire Bournemouth squad were taken go-karting by the club for team-bonding purposes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4342326/Bournemouth-stars-enjoy-karting-session-Dubai.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/23/13/3E8E2DB700000578-0-image-a-37_1490274986522.jpg

I'm guessing that's Arter fifth from left?

Either way, I don't think it's a big deal and there's no reason for anyone to be assuming or suggesting that O'Neill will be demoting or punishing Arter as a result.

Going go-karting with his club doesn't mean that Arter would have been fit or ready to play against Wales and/or Iceland, nor is it some sort of proof that he wasn't otherwise undergoing club-supervised rehab whilst in Dubai. Rehab doesn't necessitate injured and recovering players devoting 24 hours a day to whatever their rehabilitation programme happens to be and Arter was hardly going to boycott a collective club activity or team-bonding exercise; in fact, spending 24 hours a day on rehab exercises would be to the player's detriment. As an experienced football manager, Martin O'Neill will obviously be fully aware of this.

[tetsujin1979]

Don't the players who assemble for the Irish squad usually have an afternoon off to play golf, or go paint balling, or whatever?
I'm not buying any "if he was fit enough for go-karting, he was fit to play for Ireland" argument either.

[DannyInvincible]

As regards Arter karting, he may have gone with the team but did he kart ?

Indeed, I can't find any evidence that he was actually driving a kart. (Not that it would necessarily invalidate the injury/rehab assertion anyway even if there was.)

[Stuttgart88]

Jesus Danny. Did you actually seek evidence that he karted?

Who cares (part from TOWK obviously) if he karted? Different muscles / activity type entirely. He plays for a rich football club with modern medical facilities and protocols and good medical staff. They should know what his rehab should and should not allow.

We can speculate whether Arter could have bust a gut to make himself available for Ireland but to me this looks much more like TOWK being scurrilous with his "Arter prefers a lads' jolly than playing for Ireland" insinuation. It looks like he's available for tonight's game but bear in mind the Wales game was 12 days ago. That's plenty of time for a strain to clear up. Usually a strain only means a short layoff. How often have we heard managers say "the game came just a day too early for him"?

[DannyInvincible]

Jesus Danny. Did you actually seek evidence that he karted?

Heh, not exactly. I was intrigued by the original claim that he was go-karting and by how it was (negatively) framed, so I did a quick Google search the other day and found out from one or two search results that it was a team-bonding exercise. When I say I haven't found any evidence, I just mean I didn't see any mention of Arter karting in the articles I read, nor did any of the articles' photos feature him actually sitting in a kart.

I fully agree with what you say though.


It looks like he's available for tonight's game but bear in mind the Wales game was 12 days ago. That's plenty of time for a strain to clear up. Usually a strain only means a short layoff. How often have we heard managers say "the game came just a day too early for him"?

Not sure if you're aware, but Arter actually played the second half for Bournemouth against Southampton (and missed a penalty) last Sunday. He started on the bench. Not that that's some sort of indication that he was feigning (the seriousness of) his injury either, mind.

[tetsujin1979]

that gave him three weeks to recover from the injury, and he still wasn't fit enough for 90 minutes. Can't see how anyone can argue he could have played against Wales.

[mark12345]

that gave him three weeks to recover from the injury, and he still wasn't fit enough for 90 minutes. Can't see how anyone can argue he could have played against Wales.

Let's forget about the whole Wales argument. I think it is fairly certain that he couldn't play against Wales. It was said on the Monday before the game and no one had an issue with the news at that time, so those folks who are second guessing now are really splitting hairs. On a more positive note, Harry played at Anfield tonight and put in a pretty decent shift in a 2-2 draw against the Merseysiders. He's a tidy passer of the ball and can find a good through ball on occasion. Midfield options are beginning to permeate me head now for the Austria game - Arter, McCarthy, Hoolahan, O'Kane, Hendrick, Brady

[tricky_colour]

You need a good engine for Go Karting.

[seanfhear]

Harry may be Go-Karting for the Austria game.....James McCarthy should try Go-Karting........it certainly helped get Harry fit.....