Harry Arter M Precision Football b.1989

[nigel-harps1954]

Google search brings up nothing on it.

This Premier League injury website shows nothing too, updated today at 1:39pm.

http://premierinjuries.com/

[DannyInvincible]

Where was it reported that he's been ruled out of the Austria game?

[tetsujin1979]

Can't find any evidence of it myself. JD, would you like to explain yourself?

[mark12345]

Can't find any evidence of it myself. JD, would you like to explain yourself?

I would be seriously disappointed if Arter is ruled out for Austria. Have visions of him running the show for Ireland that day.

[Closed Account]

Boozed up and barely remember posting that. Must have imagined seeing a headline on google now. Weird.

[DeLorean]

Awesome explanation. There isn't enough Sunday drinking these days. :D

[mark12345]

Boozed up and barely remember posting that. Must have imagined seeing a headline on google now. Weird.

"Boozed up barely remember."
You remind me of myself. Used to go out at night with ten friends and come home with none

[mark12345]

Boozed up and barely remember posting that. Must have imagined seeing a headline on google now. Weird.

Bottom line is Harry is still available for June 11. Can see it now. We're leading 1-0 thanks to a Robbie Brady special.
Five minutes left, Austria pressing hard for an equalizer. Arter breaks up the attack and springs a counter.
Releases McClean on the left. James plays it back into the center and Harry finishes from 25 yards into the top corner.
Three points in the bag and Russia here we come.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/15295777.Arter_struggling_with_a_trio_of_injuries/?ref=twtrec

[tetsujin1979]

Not in the squad today for Bournemouth

[tricky_colour]

Not in the squad today for Bournemouth

Is he injured?

[tetsujin1979]

Is he injured?

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/status/866292932114079746

Eddie Howe fears Harry Arter could miss the final game of the season after he was forced off vs Burnley because of injury [dead leg]. #AFCB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AFCB?src=hash)

[mark12345]

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/status/866292932114079746

With McCarthy, Long, Clark and Meyler all missing, the FAI medical staff will need to bring some life back to Harry's leg and soon

[tricky_colour]

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/status/866292932114079746

That is good to hear, if you see what I mean, I'd be concerned if he wasn't injured!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Howe also refers to "ankle" and "achilles" problems he has been nursing, so at the least I suspect he won't travel to America, but i'd expect him to be in the frame to start against Austria.

[Closed Account]

Out in night clubs in New York instead of being at home resting. It makes me sick how some of these professional footballers spend their free time.
:p
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[Charlie Darwin]

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[tetsujin1979]

Arter missing close friend Simon Francis' wedding for Ireland duty: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/15326303.Arter_to_miss_close_pal_Francis__39_s_wed ding_day_for_Ireland_duty/

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

No Christmas cards for Arter from Simon Francis this year.

Found it a bit weird when I seen that Francis story. With an average of 12 or so Intl fixtures and 30 days or so of Intl duty a year, I thought it was a given that professional footballers miss plenty of weddings.

I thought the whole point Kevin Long's story got media attention was because it was his brother's wedding, he was due to be best man and he was travelling to America with no guarantees of playing.

If someone missed a competitive game for us to go to a teammate's wedding I would be asking serious questions!

According to this, Whelan and Arter arrived at the team hotel this morning, so I don't know if they will have trained.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/harry-arter-and-glenn-whelan-join-up-with-ireland-squad-1.3107114

[DannyInvincible]

Arter missing close friend Simon Francis' wedding for Ireland duty: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/15326303.Arter_to_miss_close_pal_Francis__39_s_wed ding_day_for_Ireland_duty/

If Arter really wasn't bothered about playing for Ireland and has been faking injury time and time again in order to avoid both friendlies and competitive games, then he'd surely have just done that again in this instance (seeing as he's been complaining of ankle and Achilles problems as well as a dead leg in recent weeks anyway) and gone to his close friend's wedding instead of meeting up with the squad ahead of the Uruguay friendly tomorrow. The fact he is showing up for friendly international duty and missing one of his close friend's wedding in the process is surely demonstrative - to the cynical and paranoid - of his commitment.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

[seanfhear]

Especially when your man could be getting married again anytime soon in this day and age..........

[DannyInvincible]

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

I agree, but this is Harry Arter we're talking about, who supposedly couldn't be bothered playing for Ireland, so he fakes injuries all the time. Or so the theory goes...

Edit: And isn't he missing the wedding for a friendly game? The wedding is today.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

The tenor of the article really confuses me. Is everyone supposed to congratulate him and high five him because he missed a teammate's wedding so he could participate in a competitive football match? Kinell...

If Arter's presence at his wedding is so important he wouldn't have booked it during an International window.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-ireland-austria-2-3427297-Jun2017/

Kevin Palmer wrote an article that said Arter was "frustrated" after being left out of the side to play Serbia. This was after representing us four times.

He subsequently pulled out of two squads in controversial circumstances.

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.

Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.

It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.

We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

[mark12345]

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-ireland-austria-2-3427297-Jun2017/

Kevin Palmer wrote an article that said Arter was "frustrated" after being left out of the side to play Serbia. This was after representing us four times.

He subsequently pulled out of two squads in controversial circumstances.

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.

Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.

It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.

We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

Copping attitude? Seriously TOWK.
Have people not talked this thing to death already. His commitment was never in doubt except to some who had no evidence to the contrary.
He played a brilliant game in Austria and helped us to three vital points, putting us where we are today.
He shows up this weekend for a friendly, missing his mate's wedding and plays out of his skin and you say "we don't need someone copping attitude."

Based on his performance today - you think you should issue the man an apology?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I never thought he was going to declare for England, that's not what I mean when I refer to commitment.

[DannyInvincible]

Copping attitude? Seriously TOWK.
Have people not talked this thing to death already. His commitment was never in doubt except to some who had no evidence to the contrary.
He played a brilliant game in Austria and helped us to three vital points, putting us where we are today.
He shows up this weekend for a friendly, missing his mate's wedding and plays out of his skin and you say "we don't need someone copping attitude."

Based on his performance today - you think you should issue the man an apology?

Here's an article by Kevin Palmer on Arter from last November where Arter speaks of what had been frustrating him, if you would like to interpret Arter's words for yourself rather than rely on an unreliable, malicious and prejudicial misrepresentation: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/frustrated-harry-arter-makes-a-plea-to-ireland-boss-martin-oneill-35208436.html


There are a lot of players in the Ireland squad who have been part of the set-up for a lot longer than me and the manager has trust in them. The reality is that the boss doesn’t know me as well as he does a lot of the players and it’s up to me to gain his trust and force my way into the team.

There is competition to get into the Ireland midfield and, while I have been a bit frustrated not to play in a competitive game so far, part of the reason for that is the injuries I have had around Ireland matches in the last year or so. I feel ready to make the step up now.

[mark12345]

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-ireland-austria-2-3427297-Jun2017/


In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.
It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.
We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

Some very harsh words in there. Were they not written by you? I'm having a hard time trying to understand your subsequent explanation.

[tetsujin1979]

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.Or what conclusions the bias of said people would lead them to draw


Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.Coleman was invited to the squad by O'Neill, so pretty irrelevant.


It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.He hasn't copped attitude at at all so far

[DannyInvincible]

MOTM Arter speaking to Tony O'Donoghue post-Uruguay game: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10734754

[DannyInvincible]

Harry Arter has written a moving piece for the Players' Tribune about dealing with the tragedy of losing a daughter at birth: https://theplayerstribune.com/harry-arter-for-my-daughters/


If I’m being honest, my grief didn’t fully hit me until about a week after Renée’s death, when we were away at West Brom. It was Christmastime, and I kept seeing all these happy families everywhere preparing for the holiday, and it was just devastating to me. The night before our match, I was in the hotel trying to sleep. Around midnight, I started feeling really hot. It felt like the walls were closing in on me. I went outside and took a long walk around Birmingham, and there were some tears. You can’t help but ask yourself, Why her?

Luckily, I had a long chat that night with my mate Richard Hughes, who works for the club. He really calmed me down just by letting me talk. I cannot stress enough how much it helps just to talk to somebody. Even telling the story again now helps. The process of grief is a tricky thing. One thing I’ve learned in the years since Renée’s death is that the sadness can hit you at any time. There’s no reason for it. It just comes rolling in like a wave.

[CraftyToePoke]

Signed up for four more at Bournemouth, 27 presently - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40599847

[DannyInvincible]

'Ireland international Harry Arter reveals how he broke down in front of his father after the Oman game': http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/ireland-international-harry-arter-reveals-how-he-broke-down-in-front-of-his-father-after-the-oman-game-36005290.html


No one knew about my Grandad [dying] going into the Oman game. I didn’t want anyone to know about it, but it added to the cumulative effect. What happened with Renee [having a miscarriage] and trying to come to terms with that, missing out on Euro 2016 with an injury, I had been sent off in the Premier League the week before, Bournemouth hadn’t won a game, my Grandad dying…. My life had seemed perfect up to this point. I didn’t have anyone in my family who had passed away and I was living the dream as a Premier League footballer. Suddenly, everything was closing in on me.

What I didn’t know if was whether the way I was feeling was normal and I didn’t want to pull out of the squad in case this is how I would feel forever more. This was a chance for me to get an international game under my belt and I had not had too many chances with Ireland up to that point. I had to try and play, but I was not right at all.

[DannyInvincible]

"'It’s harder for players with an English background' - Harry Arter opens up on his battle to play for Ireland": http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/its-harder-for-players-with-an-english-background-harry-arter-opens-up-on-his-battle-to-play-for-ireland-36082256.html


I think it’s harder for players with an English background making it into the Ireland side and in many ways, I don’t have a problem with that. If I was born in Ireland, came through the ranks and had earned my chance on the international stage, it would probably annoy me that an English-born player was getting in ahead of me because he was playing for a better club at the time. In an ideal world, a kid will make his mark in the League of Ireland, then go and prove his worth in the English Premier League and eventually become an international player.

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I’m not the only one that doesn’t sing the anthem so that makes me feel a bit better about not knowing the words yet. I suppose the big issue I had when I went into the Ireland squad for the first time was that everything as very new for me.

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So it was a new experience going into a squad of senior international players who all knew each other and trying to fit in with them all.

[Olé Olé]

Found that interesting too. Connor Ronan said that one of the reasons he went with Ireland was the sense of camaraderie was superior to the English side he was in with. http://thestar.ie/about-us/connor-ronan-ill-show-england-what-theyre-missing/

One issue for Arter would be that he has nothing to compare it to. Not that his comments are particularly negative but he has been on a great journey with Bournemouth that has created a natural bond. The England set-up would surely be much, much different.

[DannyInvincible]

I'm sure it would be much the same experience - rather new and daunting - for any player joining up with an international squad for the first time, especially if no other team-mate at his club also plays for that country, but, as you say, Arter only has his experience of joining the Irish set-up to comment on and has no other experience to compare it to.

I'm a big fan of Arter. He's a decent lad and definitely strikes me as a thinker; he's self-aware, knows his place and I sense he appreciates the privilege of being part of the Ireland set-up. He's come through a lot personally and certainly doesn't deserve the suspicions and aspersions that have been cast his way by doubters - out of ignorance really - in the past.

[Olé Olé]

I'm sure it would be much the same experience - rather new and daunting - for any player joining up with an international squad for the first time, especially if no other team-mate at his club also plays for that country, but, as you say, Arter only has his experience of joining the Irish set-up to comment on and has no other experience to compare it to.

I'm a big fan of Arter. He's a decent lad and definitely strikes me as a thinker; he's self-aware, knows his place and I sense he appreciates the privilege of being part of the Ireland set-up. He's come through a lot personally and certainly doesn't deserve the suspicions and aspersions that have been cast his way by doubters - out of ignorance really - in the past.

Agree with everything there. For a player who probably won't reach great heights at club level, he's going to have a great career post-football. My first instinct would be as an analyst as I think the big networks would be mad to get him for some of the afore-mentioned traits.

[tetsujin1979]

Dropped completely for today's game against Burnley

[DannyInvincible]

Dropped completely for today's game against Burnley

I saw a tweet here saying he was injured but I've no idea if that's confirmed elsewhere, nor have I seen it mentioned elsewhere: https://twitter.com/merrisman/status/911586480702869504

It's possibly just the tweeter's (incorrect) assumption. Other tweets mentioning Arter seem to suggest he was dropped due to poor form, although it's surely odd that he isn't even in the match-day squad.

[tricky_colour]

knock in training according to a post on bfc forum, sounds credible to me, if they were gonna drop him you would expect it to be the bench.

[tricky_colour]

he for a decent rating on his last game, his best of the season iirc.

[tetsujin1979]

Has a 90% tackling success rate, second in the Premier League according to planet football: http://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/premier-leagues-top-creators-finishers-dribblers-five-games/

[tricky_colour]

Well Bournemouth lost without him.

[tricky_colour]

He is below his form of previous seasons about 6.45, been closer to 7 in the past, but his last match was a 7.03
best of the season so far.

[tricky_colour]

He was injured and was not in the squad today. also a doubt for the Ireland fixtures.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-bournemouth-republic-of-ireland-3623160-Sep2017/
HARRY ARTER HAS emerged as an injury doubt for the Republic of Ireland’s upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Moldova and Wales.
The Bournemouth midfielder has not trained all week for the Cherries and manager Eddie Howe revealed that he will miss the side’s clash against Leicester City tomorrow.
“The problem isn’t a serious one, but he is injured and hasn’t trained with the group this week,” Howe told reporters at his Friday press conference.
Arter hasn’t played since the 15 September and missed Bournemouth’s last league fixture against Everton.
However, he was included in Martin O’Neill’s squad for the crucial double-header. So, it would represent a serious blow if he misses out.
Jon Walters and James McCarthy are absent for both fixtures because of injury while James McClean and Robbie Brady are suspended for next Friday’s clash with Moldovs

[liamoo11]

is that right that McCarthy is out?

[tricky_colour]

is that right that McCarthy is out?

Well it seems he has been called up, but it seems Koeman is not happy about it, so it is not correct as I understand it from the reports I have
seen in the (other) press..

[mark12345]

Well it seems he has been called up, but it seems Koeman is not happy about it, so it is not correct as I understand it from the reports I have
seen in the (other) press..

McCarthy out? Koeman might be out before him at this rate

[tricky_colour]

I doubt Koeman will be too happy if McCarthy breaks his leg against Moldova!
Koeman should be OK, at least untill Xmas, they have some easier fixtures coming up (bar Arsenal) which should help.