Harry Arter M Precision Football b.1989

[geysir]

That is awful news. I heard some reference from the commentator and wondered what was up. It's good that he has such support from his team mates and manager.

[tricky_colour]

Same here, I heard he had some sort of losses but took me a while to find out what that meant, sad news indeed.

[OwlsFan]

MotM award again. In 'Arry Rednapp's team of the week. A friend of mine says he reminds him of Ray Houghton. No sure about that as Ray played out wide. On current form a must for France but instead of who ?

[TrapAPony]

MotM award again. In 'Arry Rednapp's team of the weak. A friend of mine says he reminds him of Ray Houghton. No sure about that as Ray played out wide. On current form a must for France but instead of who ?

Gibson as things stand. I'd almost start Arter in the team ahead of Hendrick. McCarthy, Whelan, Arter, Hendrick & Meyler should be the ones to go.

[DeLorean]

I'd like to see Arter do something in a green jersey before bumping him up the pecking order.

[Charlie Darwin]

MotM award again. In 'Arry Rednapp's team of the weak. A friend of mine says he reminds him of Ray Houghton. No sure about that as Ray played out wide. On current form a must for France but instead of who ?
Ray played everywhere to be fair. They both have the floppy hair, maybe that's it.

[Stuttgart88]

Notwithstanding DeLorean's point, which is fair, just based on club form he'd be a shoo in for the squad and a credible (st)arter. He is quite Houghton-esque, very busy and industrious.

[elroy]

While I agree with Loreans post, you could probably apply the same criteria to plenty of players, even Gibson!

[tricky_colour]

He certainly gives us more options, he has a different skill set to what we have, we will have to see how he fairs with more
Premiership games under his belt. I am not sure how he would fit into out system, I think maybe he could be a more defensive Wes???

[DeLorean]

While I agree with Loreans post, you could probably apply the same criteria to plenty of players, even Gibson!

Not that he's ever set the world alight, but Gibson is more established as an International (and indeed as a Premier League player). We know at this stage that he could slot straight in for Whelan or McCarthy, if needed, and what he can offer. That said, I'd completely accept that he'll have to start featuring more regularly for Everton to stay in the picture. I think Tricky's point is the important one, we don't even know how Arter will fit into our system but I'm all for giving him the opportunity to prove that he does. The likes of Hendrick played an important role in our qualifying campaign. Even outside of his more spectacular contributions against Germany and Georgia, he understood his role well and was a big asset supporting his fellow midfielders and our defence, in what was our first campaign in a while where we weren't consistently overrun in midfield. I can't really see Arter performing that specific role as well, for example. Arter has done more than enough to see decent game time in the friendlies though and could be an exciting addition.

[Stuttgart88]

I think Arter occupies the same area of the pitch as Wes but in a different way. Less obvious artistry and subtlety but more obvious physically and athletically. His block in the box from Martial (?). He's a kind of hybrid between Wes and Stephen Quinn I'd say. He could play deeper if required, but pushing forward.

As the carmaker says, a potentially exciting addition and warrants a good look in the friendlies. Alan Judge too. I don't feel overly loyal to Gibson. I've always liked him as a player and like his effortless ability to pick passes but I think he has never played as well for us as he is capable of, not always his own fault, and lest we not forget he retired himself for a while.

I think our midfield & wide options like Whelan, McCarthy, Quinn, Meyler, Hendrick, Gibson, Arter, Judge, Wes, McGeady, McClean, Brady and McGoldrick are all quite respectable. At least a couple of these will be disappointed I reckon.

[Charlie Darwin]

Don't think Arter plays as far forward as Hoolahan. He's more of a ground-covering player too. I'd say the player in the current team he's most like is Hendrick.

[DeLorean]

He did say a "hybrid" of Quinn and Hoolahan, presumably meaning not exactly like either. I think it's safe to say he doesn't play as far forward as Hoolahan but he probably spends more time attacking than Quinn. I think it's a fair description from what I have seen. I wouldn't say he's like Hendrick at all, even if they do cover similar amounts of ground. He likes to get hold of the ball and use it in a more commanding way, whereas Hendrick is happy to get himself into little pockets and link up the play, often with one touch. Arter seems to play with his head up, Hendrick a bit more off the cuff with clever little touches here and there. That said, I've seen loads of Hendrick and not so much of Arter.

[Stuttgart88]

Don't think Arter plays as far forward as Hoolahan. He's more of a ground-covering player too. I'd say the player in the current team he's most like is Hendrick.I did point out the block on Martial, intending to equate athleticism with ground covering!

[pinkpowerranger]

Gibson as things stand. I'd almost start Arter in the team ahead of Hendrick. McCarthy, Whelan, Arter, Hendrick & Meyler should be the ones to go.

no way should be McCarthy in DM where he dosent look lost with Hendrick and Arter ahead

[tricky_colour]

Arter has a high number of tackles per game and also a high number of being dispossessed per game (relative to the others).
They are all a bit different when you look at their stats. Mind you Arters are only from 6 games. Maybe I will but all the stats in to a table to make it easier to compare.
V England he was one for 23 mins and made 2 tackle and was disposed once and had one shot. Neither McCarthy or Whelan has a shot, McCarthy made 2 tackles Whelan 1, both were on the pitch at least twice along. So he seem to like to be on the ball more. Seems to a bit further forward than the other two but not as far forward as Wes.
All a bit complicated really :)
Would be a good idea to see more of him in the friendlies.

[backstothewall]

I've not seen much of him. Could he be cover and/or a successor for Hoolahan?

[Stuttgart88]

Yes and no. Not as creative / instinctive, but certainly capable of imposing himself in the final third.

I'd say he's an effective alternative as opposed to a direct replacement.

I think they could also play together though, so no need to see it an an either/or situation.

[tricky_colour]

Bournmouth seem to be doing well with him back, they lost the first two, drew the next too and now have won the last three.
Could be 4 in a row but they host Crystal Palace next who are very good away form home.

[tricky_colour]

siubbed at h/t good news is o kane came on

[tricky_colour]

Goal v West Ham from outside area, keeper could have done better seemed to misjudge it.

west ham were the 28-1 to win which I though was generous, especially when they got a free kick, which was scored.

So west ham now 2-1 up, well done to anyone who took 28-1!

[tricky_colour]

Arter off now. (subbed)

[Closed Account]

https://streamable.com/wusc

[DeLorean]

Adrian was pretty poor for that.

[tricky_colour]

Don't think the keeper saw him strike it becasue of the defender in front and then misjudged the flight, still Harry's first Premiership goal.

[tetsujin1979]

Harry Arter: ‘Every single game now I go out to play for her’: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/29/harry-arter-bournemouth-interview-loss-daughter

[Fixer82]

Harry Arter: ‘Every single game now I go out to play for her’: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/29/harry-arter-bournemouth-interview-loss-daughter

Jesus, hard not to read that and get upset.
Have huge admiration for him and his partner for being so courageous and honest

[Stuttgart88]

Played well against Arsenal. Has a good shot on him and came close twice. Not as cultured as Wes but has an eye for a gap and can play well in advanced positions.

[OwlsFan]

I heard Howe saying during the week that Arter's season may be over. There I was hoping that both he and Judge would make the squad. Sigh :(

[DeLorean]

A lifeline for Gibson perhaps if he can see a little more game time.

[jbyrne]

A lifeline for Gibson perhaps if he can see a little more game time.

its highly unlikely but id rather see jack byrne in the squad than Gibson

[DeLorean]

I've no problem with fast tracking Byrne but I think Gibson would be the more pragmatic choice. It would be a great experience for Byrne but realistically I couldn't envisage a situation where he would be used. If McCarthy or Whelan picked up an injury or just weren't playing well Gibson could be a very useful option.

[tricky_colour]

http://www.newstalk.com/Harry-Arter-I-am-fighting-to-get-one-of-the-last-places-in-the-final-23


Harry Arter "I am fighting to get one of the last places in the final 23"Despite his injury woes, Arter hopes he can get fit for Bournemouth's last few games and will hope to do enough to convince Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane of a place in the Irish squad. "My aim is to try and play the final two or three Premier League games of the season for Bournemouth see if that is enough to get me a chance with Ireland at the Euros," he said.



Would be great if he did make it.

[jbyrne]

I've no problem with fast tracking Byrne but I think Gibson would be the more pragmatic choice. It would be a great experience for Byrne but realistically I couldn't envisage a situation where he would be used. If McCarthy or Whelan picked up an injury or just weren't playing well Gibson could be a very useful option.

I always try to see the best in our players, management etc but as hard as I try I see nothing good in Gibson.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Is it not a bit hard to justify bringing Arter if he doesn't make it back before the end of the season? Or does his league form merit a place?

He's played half an hour against England, right?

If he is back for the friendlies he would basically have the guts of one game to prove himself.

Then again if Hendrick doesn't regain fitness it may expedite things for Arter.

[Olé Olé]

Is it not a bit hard to justify bringing Arter if he doesn't make it back before the end of the season? Or does his league form merit a place?

He's played half an hour against England, right?

If he is back for the friendlies he would basically have the guts of one game to prove himself.

Then again if Hendrick doesn't regain fitness it may expedite things for Arter.

And the internationally-retired Damien Delaney ought to be brought on the basis of his league form?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Delaney doesn't have fitness or match practice issues to consider - but yes retired for all intents and purposes.

[tricky_colour]

Well I think under the current circumstances anyone who can mobilise themselves 50 metres has to be considered.

[SkStu]

I've no problem with fast tracking Byrne but I think Gibson would be the more pragmatic choice. It would be a great experience for Byrne but realistically I couldn't envisage a situation where he would be used. If McCarthy or Whelan picked up an injury or just weren't playing well Gibson could be a very useful option.

What about Pilkington should Arter not make it? Difficult to justify Jack Byrne at this stage, I have never been a huge Gibson fan (and he wasn't that good on Saturday from my perspective). Obviously not like for like but Pilkington would offer versatility - wing, up front. Especially if O'Kane is on the plane...

[Stuttgart88]

I think Pilkington should be in the squad regardless. I wouldn't be worried about Byrne being fast-tracked.

[Closed Account]

Back from injury today.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Didn't see that coming. Big game for Arter & Gibson. Could be competing for final squad berth, or both could go if Hendrick doesn't make it.

Meyler doubtful for the playoffs as well.

[tetsujin1979]

AFC Bournemouth: Harry Arter promises to be 'more professional' with injuries after rushing March comeback - http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/14475294.AFC_Bournemouth__Harry_Arter_promises_to_ be__more_professional__with_injuries_after_rushing _March_comeback/

[tetsujin1979]

Misses out on the final game of the season against Man United with an achilles strain

[OwlsFan]

Misses out on the final game of the season against Man United with an achilles strain

That wasn't the injury which he just came back from ?

[DeLorean]

It was his achilles the previous time as well anyway.

[DeLorean]

Personal pain gives Harry Arter perspective (rte.ie) (http://www.rte.ie/sport/euro-2016/2016/0525/790957-ireland_arter_/)

[TrapAPony]

Arter should be another obvious inclusion in the 23. He should in reality be close to our starting lineup.

[geysir]

I think he first has to show what he can do in a green shirt in order to jump from a possible to a probable.

[Charlie Darwin]

I think Arter has to start a game for Ireland before he's close to the starting line-up.