Under-19 Squad

[liamoo11]

That's a strong looking squad. Excited to see Finn Benoa is a green shirt for the first time!

Also just noticed Liam Delap isn't in the England squads. I'm going to assume he's not injured and begin to wildly speculate

Neither is louie barry , those 2 would be nice additions for us

[samhaydenjr]

That's a strong looking squad. Excited to see Finn Benoa is a green shirt for the first time!

Also just noticed Liam Delap isn't in the England squads. I'm going to assume he's not injured and begin to wildly speculate

Bubble bursting in 3... 2... 1... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-liam-delap-injury-21758785

[tetsujin1979]

Neither is louie barry , those 2 would be nice additions for us

Looks like Barry is injured, didn't play for Ipswich this weekend either

[Eirambler]

It's an interesting squad. Vaughan seems to be very highly rated at Oldham and already gets a reasonable amount of first team minutes in League 2. He's only 17.

Possibly the most notable absentee is Sean Roughan. He was playing first team football in League 1 this time last year at 17, was on trial at Southampton and I think possibly Chelsea also during the summer but seems to have disappeared completely this season. Maybe he's injured but if not it's a strange one, thought he'd be a shoe in for the Under 19 squad.

[Kingdom]

That's a strong looking squad. Excited to see Finn Benoa is a green shirt for the first time!

Also just noticed Liam Delap isn't in the England squads. I'm going to assume he's not injured and begin to wildly speculate

In the u21 presser, Jim Crawford was asked a question following a discussion about Mipo - couldn't really hear the question, but "Liam" was mentioned, so assume it was Liam Delap. Can't remember the reply exactly, but it wasn't positive.

[ColourfulPeanut]

Bubble bursting in 3... 2... 1... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-liam-delap-injury-21758785
I was only joking anyway! We realistically have no shot with the lad unless he's definitively not good enough for England and in that scenario, he wouldn't be worth getting excited over.

[Olé Olé]

I was only joking anyway! We realistically have no shot with the lad unless he's definitively not good enough for England and in that scenario, he wouldn't be worth getting excited over.

Only thing with Delap is that he might not do the whole Bamford thing of preferring one England cap to, say, thirty Ireland caps and might plump for us in such a situation, given what his father has said previously and the fact that he surely does identify as some bit Irish.

I feel dirty speaking like this ..

[tetsujin1979]

In the u21 presser, Jim Crawford was asked a question following a discussion about Mipo - couldn't really hear the question, but "Liam" was mentioned, so assume it was Liam Delap. Can't remember the reply exactly, but it wasn't positive.
Press conference is here
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[JR89]

I was only joking anyway! We realistically have no shot with the lad unless he's definitively not good enough for England and in that scenario, he wouldn't be worth getting excited over.

You know there's lads who won't be good enough for England that would walk into our team. Lads who'll probably get less than a handful of caps or even no caps. Michail Antonio won't get a cap but he'd walk into our team. Lewis Dunk and James Maddison have one cap each and would walk into our team. Danny Ings has three caps for England, how many would he have for us if he was Irish?

[third policeman]

Maddison was qualified which makes it even more frustrating. I’ve said it before, but the lower we sink the less attractive we appear as an option for dual eligibility players. Having a team with prospects for qualification and a manager with status / reputation are factors that will influence players when they make that choice. At the minute, we’re not a great option for anyone with choices.

[tetsujin1979]

Some of Cristiano Fitzgerald's background: https://www.buzz.ie/sport/cristiano-fitzgerald-republic-ireland-eligible-25148929
Also eligible for France through his mother, and possibly Singapore, where it looks like he was born.

[Olé Olé]

Some of Cristiano Fitzgerald's background: https://www.buzz.ie/sport/cristiano-fitzgerald-republic-ireland-eligible-25148929
Also eligible for France through his mother, and possibly Singapore, where it looks like he was born.

"“I would say very much that Cristiano feels both Irish and French, but he has never lived physically in Ireland or France.”"

That's absolutely ridiculous- he has no right to accept an Irish call-up if he doesn't feel 100% Irish, I don't care where he was reared. He is depriving a full blood Irishman of the honour of a call-up. On top of that, we all know that France are better so if this lad gets a call from them he will jump ship immediately and he will feel 51% French and 49% Irish.

.... End parody.

[JR89]

Some of Cristiano Fitzgerald's background: https://www.buzz.ie/sport/cristiano-fitzgerald-republic-ireland-eligible-25148929
Also eligible for France through his mother, and possibly Singapore, where it looks like he was born.

Yeah Mark McCadden retweeted that article and refers to him as being born in Singapore in the tweet. The mother definitely had a bigger influence on what his name was if the second born son is called Dean, unless the father was a massive Cristiano Ronaldo fan. Because I always assumed he was from Portugal and might not actually qualify for them by the sounds of it.

[tetsujin1979]

I saw another article yesterday that said that the player is named after Cristiano Ronaldo, but it's a bit of a coincidence. His dad has little interest in football, but he happened to be watching the game where Ronaldo made his Manchester United debut. Fitzgerald's mother was pregnant at the time, but they hadn't picked a name. When he came on, he suggested Cristiano to his wife, and that was that!

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Here's the article: https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/irish-u19-starlet-cristiano-fitzgerald-25150329.amp

Also says they weren't living in Portugal at the time, and only moved there four years ago, so I don't think he's eligible for Portugal under residency?

[elatedscum]

It's an interesting squad. Vaughan seems to be very highly rated at Oldham and already gets a reasonable amount of first team minutes in League 2. He's only 17.

Possibly the most notable absentee is Sean Roughan. He was playing first team football in League 1 this time last year at 17, was on trial at Southampton and I think possibly Chelsea also during the summer but seems to have disappeared completely this season. Maybe he's injured but if not it's a strange one, thought he'd be a shoe in for the Under 19 squad.

Problem is Lincoln don’t have a 23s team and Lincoln have said he’s developed beyond 18s, so he’s stuck in limbo of playing bespoke friendlies here and there. It’s really not ideal...

[elatedscum]

Match report: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/1008/1252611-mohans-u-19s-share-the-spoils-in-friendly-with-sweden/

Good to see Finn get his first cap in green!

[tetsujin1979]

Cristiano's name was misspelled on the FAI's Twitter account
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[TonyD]

James Abankwah from Pats looks a real talent. Delighted to see him called up.

[ColourfulPeanut]

It's great to see how diverse that U19 team is as well, really reflective of a modern Ireland and can only be good for us moving forward. 8 of the starting 11 are dual nationals by my count, 9 if you want to include Gallagher and the North!

[Olé Olé]

It's great to see how diverse that U19 team is as well, really reflective of a modern Ireland and can only be good for us moving forward. 8 of the starting 11 are dual nationals by my count, 9 if you want to include Gallagher and the North!

And more lads born or reared outside of Ireland that weren't even English born or reared- Rose and Seary outweighed by Fitzgerald, Finn, MacNulty and Gilsenan.

And on that group, at least 5 are second generation - I don't know Seary's background but Rose's and MacNulty's mothers, Fitzgerald's and Finn's fathers and both Gilsenan's parents are all Irish born.

And to go again on the Rose point, his mother didn't emigrate out of economic necessity- she is a surgeon.

[elatedscum]

It's great to see how diverse that U19 team is as well, really reflective of a modern Ireland and can only be good for us moving forward. 8 of the starting 11 are dual nationals by my count, 9 if you want to include Gallagher and the North!

Fwiw David Okagbue, another dual national, was sitting beside me at the 21s game yesterday. Very highly thought of at Stoke. Said he was supposed to be in the 19s squad before it was announced but did his hamstring in his last game for Stoke 23s. Don’t think he would have started but he’s probably the next centre half in if McNulty or Lawal end up back with the 21s

[JR89]

I'd say both lads will remain with the U19s for next month and March if they qualify for the elite round. Though if Lawal moves up to midfield it can also free up a space there for someone. Think long term it's probably going to be his position. Which would be better for us as we need a good holding midfielder to come through.

[tetsujin1979]

Under 19 coach Tom Mohan on the search for new talent: https://www.buzz.ie/sport/soccer/ireland-football-emerging-talent-scouting-25388550

[liamoo11]

https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/internationals-set-to-depart-for-qualifying-finale callum kavanagh on standby for the qualifiers this week

[elatedscum]

Be nice if they announced the squad officially. Their first game is on Wednesday

[JR89]

While they were only friendlies they announced the squad for the last U19s squad on the Monday before the game. Whether it's only given to the social media team then I don't know but for the U17s qualifiers they were posting the starting line ups 15mins after the game had already kicked off.

[tetsujin1979]

Still no official squad announcement, but Bosun Lawal has posted on Instagram that he's in Bulgaria

[Demesne Lad]

Oisín Gallagher (Midfield, Lincoln City) has just signed his first professional contact, three years. (www.weareimps.com)

[centre mid]

Tom Cannon scored again for Everton U23's

[Stuttgart88]

He's going great guns.

[pineapple stu]

Blasting them in, so he is

[Demesne Lad]

He's going great guns. You obviously think he's a player of the right calibre.

[John83]

Hopefully he comes good. The senior team could use the firepower.

[seanfhear]

Remember Frank Cannon.

[third policeman]

Why was that never repeated?

[tetsujin1979]

Tommi O'Reilly, who was called into an under 19 training camp in October, named among the substitutes for Aston Villa today
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[tetsujin1979]

O'Reilly isn't eligible apparently, name comes from a great-grandparent

[Eirambler]

That's two O'Reilly's ineligible for us in the last few weeks after Matt at Celtic. Shows again that the descendents of a lot of the earlier Irish diaspora that we tapped into in the past are now too many generations back to play for us.

[seanfhear]

That's two O'Reilly's ineligible for us in the last few weeks after Matt at Celtic. Shows again that the descendents of a lot of the earlier Irish diaspora that we tapped into in the past are now too many generations back to play for us.
Surely we could make exceptions for O’Rahalleys (? spelling )

[liamoo11]

Surely we could make exceptions for O’Rahalleys (? spelling )

There is an o reilly at villa that is eligible for us so might even things out

[liamoo11]

Lee harkin seems to get fairly regular football for wolves 23s but hasn't been involved for us underage for what seems a long time. He doesn't seem to have been involved with the North either though .

[JR89]

Johnny Kenny and Bosun Lawal played their first games since November for Celtic B in the Glasgow Cup. Lawal played at the weekend against Rangers B and Kenny played and scored today for Celtic B against Partick Thistle. Both players back in time for possible selection for the elite round of fixtures.

[Stuttgart88]

Was Lawal injured?

[tetsujin1979]

Was Lawal injured?
Yeah, during the U19 games in November
He posted this on twitter after the game at the weekend
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[liamoo11]

https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2022/Mar/18/england-mu19-squad-march-qualifiers-20220318 England squad for the qualifiers play us on Wed. Delap in it and looks strong in attack. No egan riley who has played champions league. No sign of our squad. There are squads on the uefa site but I don't think they are correct as zefo and Sam curtis are in both the 17s and 19s squad .

[JR89]

Website is probably just showing the last squad that was named. Don't think anyone from the 17s will be named in the 19s this time.

[liamoo11]

Website is probably just showing the last squad that was named. Don't think anyone from the 17s will be named in the 19s this time.

Yeah you would hope not be great to get the 17s qualified we are in with Portugal Bulgaria and Finland top 2 should get you qualified. The 17s euros are easier to qualify for and are better quality I think. The 19s suffer from been held when preseason has started and lads are looking to break 8nto first teams so may not wish to be away for a few weeks with the 19s

[tetsujin1979]

U19 manager Tom Mohan on identifying players, and the pathway to the senior team
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/long-read-tom-mohan-on-player-id-doing-a-portugal-player-pathways

[JR89]

Squad named looking towards next season's U19s. For lads born after the 1st of Jan 2004.

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[CraftyToePoke]

Is there a club listing for this group ?