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Maroon 7
02/01/2011, 2:29 PM
He cartainly has an eye for goal.
Nice finish, that lad Albrighton is a serious talent as well, pity he aint one of us.
Clark played left back today and did reasonably well.........our problem position. With Cunningham injured and KK dropping down another division, surely he is worth a look there.
CraftyToePoke
02/01/2011, 2:51 PM
Nice finish, that lad Albrighton is a serious talent as well, pity he aint one of us
I read somewhere he does qualify for us, (probably on here), most likely nothing in it though.
So thats Clark the CB, LB and holding midfielder so far this season, and another goal too. Surely a longterm injury must be next for the lad.
TrapAPony
02/01/2011, 3:23 PM
Nice finish, that lad Albrighton is a serious talent as well, pity he aint one of us.
Someone on Villa Talk said (a while back) that he had a granny from Westmeath. Either way he will get an English cap eventually.
Stuttgart88
02/01/2011, 4:34 PM
Nice finish, that lad Albrighton is a serious talent as well, pity he aint one of us.
What if Darron Gibson had gifted Essien possession for Chelsea's third goal today, like Albrighton did? Serious talent or serious imbecile? :)
SwanVsDalton
02/01/2011, 4:59 PM
What if Darron Gibson had gifted Essien possession for Chelsea's third goal today, like Albrighton did? Serious talent or serious imbecile? :)
That's Albrighton this season - sublime to ridiculous. His inexperience (diving into tackles, silly fouls, headless passing) has cost Villa goals/points this season. But he's also revelatory going forward. Experience will probably knock that out of them. Guess people are still waiting to say the same about Darron.
Great goal from Clark. I'd start him against Wales, probably at CB though I don't really mind where (doubt he does either).
tricky_colour
02/01/2011, 4:59 PM
Someone on Villa Talk said (a while back) that he had a granny from Westmeath. Either way he will get an English cap eventually.
http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=2358995
Boumasbabie: "Apparently Marc Albrighton has an Irish granny... from Westmeath i think... sign him up"
Anyway nice goal against an impenetrable Chelsea defence.
Only two other teams have scored against them at home, Everton got one for a draw and Sunderland beat them 0-3.
Sullivinho
02/01/2011, 5:24 PM
Goals against Arsenal and Chelsea so far this season. Not afraid to upset the big boys is he? :)
mark12345
02/01/2011, 5:27 PM
Great goal by the lad - I think that's his third this season. But if we're honest with ourselves he was taken to the cleaners by Kalou. Ciaran did reasonably well to begin with at left back, and I was even thinking of him slotting in at left back ahead of Cunningham - Kilbane must be gone now that he's at Huddersfield - but it's hard to forget the torturing he got in the second half at Stamford Bridge.
Still good luck to the lad he is headed in the right direction and I would say he has a bright future for Villa and us.
Charlie Darwin
02/01/2011, 5:39 PM
He had a very good first half - so much so that Anelka decided to switch flanks with Malouda - but he was turned over a few times in the second half. He did himself a mischief with that needless yellow card, and Agbonlahor wasn't able to help him out as much in the second half as he seemed to be playing with an injury for a long time. I think he'd fare better with Duffer on his side but I do worry about his disciplinary record - 6 booking this season, each of them in his last 6 games.
Crosby87
02/01/2011, 5:41 PM
So thats Clark the CB, LB and holding midfielder so far this season, and another goal too. Surely a longterm injury must be next for the lad.
Its funny because its true. Ugh.
What if Darron Gibson had gifted Essien possession for Chelsea's third goal today, like Albrighton did? Serious talent or serious imbecile? :)
Point taken, but the lad is very young so bound to make a number of errors in his first season. Its the high quality of his crosses in particular that have caught my eye this season.
On a separate point, good to see Richie starting for Villa again. Although they conceded three and he was at fault in the build up to the third goal, thought he played well.
tricky_colour
03/01/2011, 1:01 AM
I think youngsters think they are immune to injury, I know I did when I was young (about 2 weeks ago ;)).
So they go charging in, then once they pick up a major injury, they think twice about it, realising they are not indestructible after all.
Noelys Guitar
16/01/2011, 11:56 AM
Playing left back today and has been very good. Has stopped Bentley everytime. This could be our left back position sorted out at last.
TrapAPony
16/01/2011, 3:13 PM
Playing left back today and has been very good. Has stopped Bentley everytime. This could be our left back position sorted out at last.
Hopefully, but we will probably be told by Trap that he is too ''inexperienced'' and doesn't have the right ''mentality'' and therefore he will continue to pick Kilbane until he has almost 400 caps.
The Fly
16/01/2011, 4:12 PM
It's my sincerest hope that Clark doesn't fall into that trap of becoming a jack of all trades and master of none. Or, in other words.....John O'Shea.
Sullivinho
16/01/2011, 4:24 PM
I sincerely hope that Clark isn't going to fall into that trap of becoming a jack of all trades, and master of none. Or, in other words.....another John O'Shea.
Was just thinking that myself. CB to CM to LB already for Ciaran. Potential solutions to our LB problem are instantly tempting though. I didn't see today's game but he (understandably) looked a bit shaky there a week or so ago.
SkStu
16/01/2011, 11:00 PM
i thought he was excellent today. In defence and attack.
Noelys Guitar
22/01/2011, 5:30 PM
Apart from two rash challenges has been excellent first half against a couple of world class players. Has to start for us at Left back.
he is nailed on for a couple of red cards throughout his Irish career. His tackling is the only really occasionally suspect part of his game and if it hasnt been trained out of him yet then it is unlikely to be anytime soon.
Stuttgart88
22/01/2011, 6:11 PM
Not watching but TalkSport are calling him "very accomplished". Anyone even labelled "half decent" or "not an accident waiting to happen" must be a shoe-in for LB for us. "Very accomplished" is beyond all expectations.
paul_oshea
22/01/2011, 6:22 PM
Manage expectations
Noelys Guitar
22/01/2011, 6:38 PM
he is nailed on for a couple of red cards throughout his Irish career. His tackling is the only really occasionally suspect part of his game and if it hasnt been trained out of him yet then it is unlikely to be anytime soon.
It's more of a Kevin Moran/Mick McCarthy type lunge. He knew exactly what he was doing when he cut Tevez in two (probably under orders from Houllier). Far enough out wide to prevent a direct scoring chance. He knows all the old pro stuff for someone so young. And he has real pace. MOM for me today was Dunne. Really at the top of his game today.
TrapAPony
22/01/2011, 6:54 PM
Not watching but TalkSport are calling him "very accomplished". Anyone even labelled "half decent" or "not an accident waiting to happen" must be a shoe-in for LB for us. "Very accomplished" is beyond all expectations.
Trap will most likely continue with the League One player. Anything else will be a surprise.
irishfan86
22/01/2011, 11:07 PM
I still think he needs to work on his positioning. Yes Villa won today but he was making a lot of similar mistakes that Kilbane makes (tucking in too centrally a times, allowing wingers to cross).
Not trying to be negative I'm just not convinced he would be a huge upgrade if any over Kilbane.
Sullivinho
23/01/2011, 1:15 AM
I still think he needs to work on his positioning. Yes Villa won today but he was making a lot of similar mistakes that Kilbane makes (tucking in too centrally a times, allowing wingers to cross).
Not trying to be negative I'm just not convinced he would be a huge upgrade if any over Kilbane.
I thought the same. He's very raw in that position, which is understandable considering (to my knowledge) he's only played a handful of games there. Inexperience aside, I don't think he'd be that much worse than Killer, pre-injury Cunningham or Ward so I'd have him in contention for that position against Wales. I'm fairly sure Trap made some comment about seeing him as a CB though.
Glad to see Dunne back to something approaching his best too.
Irish_Praha
23/01/2011, 11:24 AM
I thought the same. He's very raw in that position, which is understandable considering (to my knowledge) he's only played a handful of games there. Inexperience aside, I don't think he'd be that much worse than Killer, pre-injury Cunningham or Ward so I'd have him in contention for that position against Wales. I'm fairly sure Trap made some comment about seeing him as a CB though.
Glad to see Dunne back to something approaching his best too.
Maybe playing against Man City was good motivation for him. Hopefully he countines to put in performances like that over coming months.
Watched a bit of QPR V Coventry yesterday. Thought Stephen O'Halloran did reasonably well at LB, although did get done near the end and brought down his man which got him a yellow card. Not long back from injury but the reports so far have been good, he is playing regularly and at a reasonable level. If he keeps it up, certainly deserves a closer look.
Noelys Guitar
25/01/2011, 6:38 PM
Out injured with a hamstring problem for tonights game. ****** to that. Hope its not too serious.
TrapAPony
29/01/2011, 1:02 PM
Scored against Blackburn in the FA Cup. Playing centre half. Keith Andrews also back starting.
paul_oshea
29/01/2011, 3:50 PM
Trap has to play him now ;)
paul_oshea
29/01/2011, 3:51 PM
Scored against Blackburn in the FA Cup. Playing centre half. Keith Andrews also back starting.
Trap has to play him now :)
Kildare Lad
30/01/2011, 1:33 PM
Does this lad seem to have scored a lot of goals this season or is it just me?
tetsujin1979
30/01/2011, 2:07 PM
just 4 goals, but they've come against high profile opposition - Arsenal and Chelsea - and in a cup game, which gets more attention
Crosby87
30/01/2011, 2:59 PM
He had two in one game also i believe.
People on here starting to come around on Clark as at least a possibility.
McCarthy-Coleman-Clark-Meyler-Clifford
See ya in Brasil.
paul_oshea
06/02/2011, 12:03 PM
good piece in the sunday world(i know i dont normally by that type paper) saying that he never felt right about playing with england and that it was second choice but the FAI never approached him for underage.
Charlie Darwin
06/02/2011, 10:23 PM
I've typed out the relevant quotes (there is more but it's him talking about Villa and I'm lazy). Loads of grammar errors in the article, though.
"It never felt right to me when I was playing for England because Ireland was always the country I wanted to represent.
"This is the natural path for me because I have come from an Irish background and spent most of my summer holidays over there when I was a kid. I loved my time in Leitrim and Donegal and it has always felt like home to me in many ways.
"Even though I was born and raised in England, I have always felt an allegiance to Ireland, but I wasn't offered the chance to represent the country at junior levels. Maybe the Irish officials didn't realise I was available, so England was a second option.
"If someone from the FAI had come along to me when I was 16 and offered me a chance to play at junior level in a green shirt, I would have jumped at it. Yet it was England that chased me to play for them and it seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
"The difference this time is it feels right to be preparing to fly to Ireland for an international game and there was never any doubt in my mind that I would take this route when Richard Dunne spoke to me about it a few months back.
"I didn't have to think twice about declaring myself for Ireland and I owe Richard so much for helping to make this happen. If I have anywhere near as good an international career as he has enjoyed, then I'll be delighted.
"My family will be so proud if my first cap comes against Wales and while there will be some nerves for me meeting up with the squad for the first time, there will also be plenty of excitement. I can't wait for this chance."
Sullivinho
06/02/2011, 10:35 PM
Very Kilbane-esque. Sounds like a smashing lad.
He will be starting against Wales too so good for him.
elroy
06/02/2011, 11:02 PM
You would wonder what the FAI scouts do be at sometime. Basically Clark has said that if Ireland came calling earlier he wouldve signed up, but they never did. In fact Richie Dunne is pretty much the reason he is now with us. Surely it doesnt take a significant amount of effort for the FAI to keep tabs on the youth set ups of the clubs in the top two tiers in England.
TrapAPony
06/02/2011, 11:07 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/clark-insists-declaring-for-ireland-the-right-decision-2527344.html
UNTIL he names his side for Tuesday's glorified friendly (and it's not much glory), many will be sceptical about Giovanni Trapattoni's commitment to change.
By leaving men like Kevin Kilbane out of his final squad, Ireland's manager may be forcing his own hand and the chance to see Seamus Coleman, James McCarthy and Ciaran Clark may boost interest in a game that needs all the help it can get.
Trapattoni's strange games with McCarthy and his selection are not uncharacteristic, but the Wigan midfielder must play in this game, especially after yesterday's double.
Coleman, who was overlooked remarkably for the Norway friendly, and Clark seem more assured of their places. Coleman, of course, is the romantic story and his sense of adventure for Everton has excited many. His progress under Trapattoni, who has never put much emphasis on a sense of adventure, will be fascinating.
Clark is a different story. He could start at left-back on Tuesday, especially with Kilbane left out. He has benefited from Gerard Houllier's desire to have a physical presence across his backline but he has also played in midfield this season.
"I've enjoyed it," Clark said last week. "It's a bit different for me, but I'm just happy to be playing and being part of it. I do see myself as a centre-half, but if the team need me to play left-back or anywhere else, I'll happily fill in."
Houllier and Trapattoni share many beliefs about the game and he may find that left-back is where he will play for Ireland.
Clark's involvement was a coup. He has captained England at underage level but he says this was just part of his career progression.
"I was just playing away for Villa and they came in and, at that time, I thought it was great. I went along with it, kept going and Ireland didn't really come in at the time, I didn't have any contact with them so I didn't have to make a decision back then. Now the time has come and I have made my decision.'
His mother is from Leitrim and his father's family comes from Donegal. He was born in Harrow but summers were spent in Drumshanbo and Donegal. On Tuesday, Leitrim and Donegal will come to Dublin.
His selection owes a lot to Richard Dunne who was talking to Clark's mother Peggy after a pre-season friendly against Valencia, noticed her accent and pursued it with Clark.
"He didn't try and pressure me or anything, he just asked me would I be interested in playing for Ireland, and I said I would be more than interested. He knew some of the coaches at Ireland, so he put the word in and since then it's just been moving forward."
On Tuesday, there will be another massive step and he will hope to be alongside Dunne, who has demonstrated to Houllier how vital he is.
"He's a great leader, just a player who I think everyone at the club looks up to, especially me as a young lad. It's just great being part of it now with him. I've learnt a lot from him and I'm just hoping to learn a lot more from him now."
Houllier is allowing a number of young players to come through at Villa. Clark was captain of the side, which included Barry Bannan, that won the Academy League three years ago but he feels that now, at 21, he has the physical strength to play in the Premier League.
He has the commitment to play for Ireland and his family have it too. "I think they love the decision I have made and I'm sure they would have loved me to play for Ireland when I was a lot younger, but the time has come and I've made my decision, and I think they're so proud of my decision in the end."
As elroy stated above, you would really have to wonder what exactly our FAI ''scouts'' actually do.
Charlie Darwin
06/02/2011, 11:12 PM
In fairness, it does sound like a bit of a cop-out on the player's part. And the FAI do seem almost too pre-occupied with getting English youngsters involved at underage level, judging by the proportion of them that seem to be in the squads of every age group. Missing Clark does seem like a glaring oversight though.
paul_oshea
08/02/2011, 7:27 PM
Tardelli telling trap who irelands number 7 is.
Good header by Clark there
the bear
08/02/2011, 9:26 PM
left back problem solved??
Kingdom
08/02/2011, 9:38 PM
Impressed with the young lad. Confident on the ball and in tight situations.
Who'd have thought Man City getting taken over by the Emirates would mean Ireland unearthing a new left back!
Thought he did well, solid, very good in the area, good positioning etc. Only point would be that it didnt really offer much going forward but he could well have been operating on those instructions. Probably deserves to start against Macedonia now.
Charlie Darwin
08/02/2011, 10:04 PM
Impressed with the young lad. Confident on the ball and in tight situations.
Who'd have thought Man City getting taken over by the Emirates would mean Ireland unearthing a new left back!
Man City?
SwanVsDalton
08/02/2011, 10:06 PM
Thought he did well, solid, very good in the area, good positioning etc. Only point would be that it didnt really offer much going forward but he could well have been operating on those instructions. Probably deserves to start against Macedonia now.
To be honest I don't think he'll ever offer loads going forward since he's not an orthodox left back. But he's certainly game and a natural footballer.
Kingdom
08/02/2011, 10:09 PM
Man City?
If Man City hadn't been revolutionised, Dunney Monster wouldn't have gone to Villa, wouldn't have met Clarkey's Mother after the friendly vs Valencia, wouldn't have recognised her bogger Leitrim accent, and wouldn't have got Clark to play for Ireland.
Comprende?
noddy102
08/02/2011, 10:12 PM
Clark was solid, and that's the best back 5 we can hope to have for the rest of the campaign.
Charlie Darwin
08/02/2011, 10:16 PM
If Man City hadn't been revolutionised, Dunney Monster wouldn't have gone to Villa, wouldn't have met Clarkey's Mother after the friendly vs Valencia, wouldn't have recognised her bogger Leitrim accent, and wouldn't have got Clark to play for Ireland.
Comprende?
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