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TheOneWhoKnocks
31/05/2014, 3:51 PM
He's explicatin' that we can't read words so good.

*Churlishly insert childish non-sequitur about Richard Keogh or Anthony Pilkington when losing debate*

CraftyToePoke
31/05/2014, 3:54 PM
*Churlishly insert childish non-sequitur about Richard Keogh or Anthony Pilkington when losing debate*

If this is your idea of winning, I'd rather not walk a mile in your shoes.

Charlie Darwin
31/05/2014, 3:55 PM
I think we've reached an impasse here. Or should that be expasse?

TheOneWhoKnocks
31/05/2014, 3:57 PM
Out of favour Anthony Pilkington is out of favour at Norwich.

Something something Richard Keogh.

CraftyToePoke
31/05/2014, 4:06 PM
I think we've reached an impasse here. Or should that be expasse?

Excommunicated would do.

Stuttgart88
31/05/2014, 4:11 PM
Keith left no doubt about the meaning of his words, Charlie.
And so what if he did? Ireland has treated his peers and ONeill with contempt with his attitude. It's no harm if a respected pro lets off a bit of steam.

Do you really think his reticence about coming back has anything to do with a bloke's opinions, a bloke not even in the squad anymore? Or is his reticence about coming back more to do with a narcissistic disregard for playing football for his country, a disregard for its fans and a disregard for those who turn up year in, year out?

BonnieShels
31/05/2014, 5:01 PM
It would make Stephen Ireland's reticence about coming back somewhat understandable.

Just like Stephen Hunt's performance on Tubridy Tonight several years ago when he openly mocked him on live TV and made a joke out of bullying.

SI's reticence? Give over.

This is a player who has the grand total of 6 appearances for his national team. SIX! I mean, Roy Keane's return under Kerr was handled with less fanfare and he is the greatest player we have ever produced. Or is McGrath? Hmmmmmmmm. Anyway, SI has no stock to sell here.

The door has been opened on numerous occasions for him since the nastiness in SEPTEMBER 2007 and he has yet to do the decent thing and either retire or get called up. It has gone on far too long and I wish that MON would kill this stone dead once on for all.

The most recent example of this was during this international window.
SI is an asshat. (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish/2014/0521/618706-oneill-ireland-return/)

Your criticism of Keith Andrews here is way out of order.

How you can champion SI and berate Robbie for "scoring against minnows" is actually mental. Mypost kinda mental.


*Churlishly insert childish non-sequitur about Richard Keogh or Anthony Pilkington when losing debate*

Ah yes, Anthony Pilkington. I couldn't remember the player earlier when I made my initial post when I was trying to engage in some smart assery.


I think we've reached an impasse here. Or should that be expasse?

Exasperation more like.


And so what if he did? Ireland has treated his peers and ONeill with contempt with his attitude. It's no harm if a respected pro lets off a bit of steam.

Do you really think his reticence about coming back has anything to do with a bloke's opinions, a bloke not even in the squad anymore? Or is his reticence about coming back more to do with a narcissistic disregard for playing football for his country, a disregard for its fans and a disregard for those who turn up year in, year out?

There is no place for your lucidity here. Away with you.

SwanVsDalton
31/05/2014, 5:12 PM
In all fairness, if Keith Andrews is having a go at SI (and I think there's no reason why he shouldn't, unless SI is essentially a 3-year-old in a man's body) I think he's perfectly entitled to say: "Everyone's falling over themselves about a guy who can't even pick up a phone, but I'm still here, I'm still in good form and I'll never turn down the call."

TheOneWhoKnocks
04/06/2014, 12:07 PM
http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-make-keith-andrews-7212621

Captain material Andrews wanted by Huddersfield; Scannell transfer-listed by Huddersfield.

gastric
23/07/2014, 1:51 AM
Our Keef supposedly on the way to Watford on a season long loan. I think they have a very good chance of finishing above Bolton this season!

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/watford/transfer-talk/news/watford-to-offer-andrews-bolton-escape_166363.html

Charlie Darwin
23/07/2014, 1:53 AM
His signing and subsequent exile from Bolton is bizarre. I can only assume they signed him drunk on parachute payments and now they need to get him off the wage bill as they're still, I think, losing something like £30m a year. He should really have learned his lesson from Blackburn and just stayed away from any team in Greater Manchester. He has much more luck in the south.

tetsujin1979
24/07/2014, 2:09 PM
loaned to Watford for the season: http://www.watfordfc.com/news/article/140724-keith-andrews-signs-for-watford-1777492.aspx

paul_oshea
24/07/2014, 3:19 PM
His signing and subsequent exile from Bolton is bizarre. I can only assume they signed him drunk on parachute payments and now they need to get him off the wage bill as they're still, I think, losing something like £30m a year. He should really have learned his lesson from Blackburn and just stayed away from any team in Greater Manchester. He has much more luck in the south.

hmm, ip, dip, donkey tail there I go. Waheey!!!

Fixer82
23/09/2014, 10:45 PM
Can Andrews feel a bit aggrieved at not being in contention for the Irish squad seeing as he was our player of the tournament in 2012 (obviously the best of a very very bad bunch)??

DeLorean
25/09/2014, 9:32 AM
Don't think so. Too many younger guys playing at a higher level. I suppose Paul Green's inclusion could generate a debate but even he's a good couple of years younger at least.

DeLorean
02/11/2014, 12:36 AM
https://vine.co/v/OOe0iXhvP0n

Fixer82
02/11/2014, 11:43 AM
If I was him, I'd definitely be pi$$ed off not getting near the squad after being Irish player of the tournament in 2012. i think he deserves his place in the squad myself ahead of Paul Green anyway. I think he can do the same job as Whelan and offer more of a goal threat

Stuttgart88
02/11/2014, 12:43 PM
https://vine.co/v/OOe0iXhvP0n

Who were those players? I couldn't see.

DeLorean
02/11/2014, 1:07 PM
A pretty classy assist from Andrews yesterday. I hate Vine.

More here (http://www.thescore.ie/keith-andrews-pass-xavi-watford-millwall-1757826-Nov2014/)

Charlie Darwin
02/11/2014, 6:03 PM
If I was him, I'd definitely be pi$$ed off not getting near the squad after being Irish player of the tournament in 2012. i think he deserves his place in the squad myself ahead of Paul Green anyway. I think he can do the same job as Whelan and offer more of a goal threat
This was his first start following a 2-month injury. He's hardly been able to play his way in.

DeLorean
02/11/2014, 6:29 PM
Even without Whelan and Green, I'd have McCarthy, Meyler, Gibson, Quinn and Hendrick all ahead of him at this stage really, so not something I'd be concerned about. At 34 and playing in the Championship he'd want to be doing something fairly spectacular to warrant a second thought.

tricky_colour
03/11/2014, 2:12 AM
Who were those players? I couldn't see.

The no 5 is Andrews who flicks the ball into he area, the no 20 Vydra applies the 'classy' finish
or rather somewhat occidentally bundles the ball over the line.

tricky_colour
03/11/2014, 2:33 AM
If I was him, I'd definitely be pi$$ed off not getting near the squad after being Irish player of the tournament in 2012. i think he deserves his place in the squad myself ahead of Paul Green anyway. I think he can do the same job as Whelan and offer more of a goal threat

That is certainly a reasonable view, he is top of the Championship with Watford, he has only played
about 6 games though however his points average when he plays is slight higher than when he didn't
by my estimation and that flick through for the goal, well we could do with a bit of that couldn't we?
He is pretty decent on the defensive side and gets the odd goal too.

tricky_colour
03/11/2014, 3:04 AM
Our Keef supposedly on the way to Watford on a season long loan. I think they have a very good chance of finishing above Bolton this season!

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/watford/transfer-talk/news/watford-to-offer-andrews-bolton-escape_166363.html

Well they are currently 22 place above Bolton so your thinking has proved pretty accurate so far!!
It is only Blackpool who are keeping Bolton off the bottom of the league.

As far as football decisions go the one to loan him out because "he has no future at the Reebok Stadium." is about as bad as
it gets. However in a way they were right, Andrews is way too good for League One whcih is where Bolton are currently
headed. Watford seem to be headed in the other direction ie into he Premiership.

Fixer82
03/11/2014, 6:58 AM
He should be making the 36 man squad.
It seems he is nowhere near the manager's thoughts

TheOneWhoKnocks
10/12/2014, 12:55 AM
Andrews disappointed by Watford treatment.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/9594246/championship-keith-andrews-disappointed-by-watford-treatment

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/11650079.Jokanovic_confirms_loanee_Andrews_is_no_l onger_training_with_Watford/

Jokanovic insecure about Andrews influence behind the scenes it would seem.

DannyInvincible
12/12/2014, 11:40 PM
Keith Andrews is an unwanted man: http://balls.ie/football/keith-andrews-is-in-football-limbo/


Just six weeks ago, Keith Andrews was doing stuff for Watford like playing this sexilicious pass against Millwall.

http://giant.gfycat.com/BouncyLimitedAsiaticlesserfreshwaterclam.gif

Now manager Slavisa Jokanovic doesn’t want him and he is no longer training with the club.


"This is my decision. I decided to separate Keith Andrews from my team. He didn’t understand my decision, he probably didn’t understand me very well and probably had some problems when communicating with me.

He probably had some problems with communication, he doesn’t accept some of my decisions and he doesn’t understand that being a professional player is sometimes on the pitch, sometimes in the stand and sometimes on the bench.

I made the decision to separate him from the squad."

Andrews is on loan at Watford from Bolton but his problem now is that he is no longer wanted by his parent club either.

Speaking on Sky Sports recently, the Dubliner said that he wasn’t sure why he had been ostracised by Jokanovic and that he felt he had “done a lot behind the scenes during the turbulent period” at Vicarage Road.

The turbulence that Andrews was speaking about is the tremendous turnover of managers at the club this season.

seanfhear
15/12/2014, 4:45 AM
Is Keith considering the Management game for himself ?

If he wants it then why not.

It is one of those jobs where you really really need to want it.

Fixer82
15/12/2014, 8:11 PM
Is Keith considering the Management game for himself ?

If he wants it then why not.

It is one of those jobs where you really really need to want it.

He was on Off the Ball the other day saying he has his coaching badges but he's not sure about management yet. He says he's enjoying the media work for now

DannyInvincible
05/01/2015, 7:21 PM
Andrews was on 'Goals on Sunday' yesterday speaking about his present situation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRpxJJkcMyY

DannyInvincible
08/01/2015, 10:48 PM
Looks like he may be returning to MK Dons: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727286


Bolton midfielder Keith Andrews is set to return to former club MK Dons on loan after an ill-fated Watford spell.

The 33-year-old is on a season-long deal at the Hornets, but has not played since mid-November and is not training with the Championship side.

"We've spoken to Watford and Bolton and unofficially agreed terms with the clubs and Keith," MK Dons boss Karl Robinson told BBC Three Counties Radio.

"Keith can't train. He's not our player. But he's in Milton Keynes."

Andrews spent two years with MK between 2006 and 2008, playing 87 games and helping the club to the League Two title and Johnstone's Paint Trophy success.

He joined Bolton from West Brom in the summer of 2012, but spent most of last season on loan at Brighton.

The Republic of Ireland international was signed on loan for Watford by then-manager Beppe Sannino in August, but has reportedly fallen out with current Vicarage Road boss Slavisa Jokanovic.

Robinson said Andrews' impending arrival does not mean highly rated youngster Dele Alli is poised to leave.

"If he happens to come, he's not a replacement for Dele. He's a different type of player," said Robinson.

"We look at different systems. You can maybe play Dele at number 10 for a little more solidity.

"But Keith is here to support me as well. He is a friend of mine and the club. I think he would be an unbelievable signing."

Olé Olé
09/01/2015, 5:03 PM
All of a sudden, he's 34 (according to Wiki). Came late to the Premiership/Championship level and has eked a good career out of it, given that he was at MK Dons up until 2008 and only had to play a handful of games at League One for them. Now's not a bad time to step down to League One again and play with a club where he'll be very appreciated.

I heard him on Newstalk on Sunday when he stated that Brighton had shown at bit of interest also. However, it looks like MK Dons have been more concrete with their interest.

As an aside, Andrews and his new manager, Karl Robinson, have the exact same D.O.B (13 September 1980).

TheOneWhoKnocks
09/01/2015, 6:56 PM
He probably hasn't helped his cause by being such a vocal media presence. He could at least wait until he's retired.

I still think he could do a job at any number of teams in the bottom half but he seems to have built a reputation, rightly or wrongly, at Bolton & Watford.

TheOneWhoKnocks
06/05/2015, 9:10 PM
Is Keith heading for retirement?

Hasn't featured at all in about two months and doesn't seem to be injured.

TheOneWhoKnocks
13/05/2015, 6:20 PM
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/12942105.Keith_Andrews_to_focus_on_coaching_at_MK_ Dons_after_leaving_Wanderers_this_summer/

Looks like he is retiring; he's starting his coaching career at MK Dons.

Stuttgart88
14/05/2015, 8:10 AM
Smart guy and a leader. I think we'll hear more from him.

gustavo
04/08/2015, 7:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33778379
He has retired, honest servant for Ireland,Will always remember the goal against Italy

geysir
04/08/2015, 10:20 PM
Keith struck me as a talented, able guy who's well able to manage his own life, but who also worked hard to be a dab hand at football.

Colbert Report
04/08/2015, 10:31 PM
When was his last appearance for Ireland, anyone know?

Olé Olé
05/08/2015, 8:37 AM
Smart guy and a leader. I think we'll hear more from him.

This rings true again in light of his latest career step. Excellent move to ally himself with such a bright, young manager in Karl Robinson, who has 5 years experience and is still the same age as Andrews at 34. Andrews has mentioned a friendship with Robinson in the past so, hopefully, they can dovetail well.

Andrews career demonstrated an ability to rise to the top in the face of adversity- his career trajectory demonstrates this. Seems to be, as Stutts said, a smart guy and a leader. No reason why he can't become a successful manager in the future.

BonnieShels
05/08/2015, 9:43 AM
Thank Keith for all the fish.

Charlie Darwin
05/08/2015, 10:42 AM
When was his last appearance for Ireland, anyone know?
Italia

DannyInvincible
25/03/2017, 7:08 PM
Keith Andrews confirms that the team took matters into their own hands and pretty much ignored Trap's instructions for the second leg of the World Cup qualifying play-off against France in Paris back in 2009 as well as for the play-off against Estonia in 2011 to qualify for the Euros: https://www.balls.ie/football/france-vs-ireland-2009-359852


It was very restrictive. Glenn Whelan still gets stick now which is absolutely ridiculous. Every week you check teamsheets - whatever game I'm working, you'd obviously have one eye on the Irish lads. Every single week, for how many years, he's been in the Stoke team. Good player. But the thing that fans don't realise, is that certain people in the squad were pushed to one side because they wouldn't buy into what the manager wanted you to do.

So, on those one-off games, when we're either a little bit desperate - in Paris where we know we have to come back from a goal down. Or Estonia, where we kind of feel, 'This is our opportunity,' in the main you can't be going and doing your own thing to a degree, in our 'philosophy' shall we say under Trapattoni.

[But] I think the players took it upon themselves, realising the situation and the scenario we were in. We had really good leaders in that team. I loved walking out of the tunnel next to Shay, Richard Dunne - I felt like a gladiator walking next to him [Dunne]. When he put on that jersey he was like a man mountain. Robbie, Duffer obviously, I loved playing with. I just felt we had those leaders within the group. We always seemed to play better when we played together.

Was the football superb to watch? No, of course it wasn't - in the main. But in terms of results, and how productive that period was, I genuinely think it was a success.

tetsujin1979
25/03/2017, 8:21 PM
Gibson said before there wasn't one: http://www.ciarano.me/post/61944556607/gibson-trap-was-lucky-euro-2012-ended-after-three

Gibson, who came on after an hour in the game best remembered for Thierry Henry’s handball, says there was no such mutiny.

“I don’t think that happened to be honest. It might have looked that way because we actually did have a proper go at them – we tried to close them down as quick as we could – and because of that and winning the ball back it looks like we were on that attack all the time.

“It was our chance to get to the World Cup so everyone was really up for it and the nature of the game was that everyone really wanted to get through, the adrenaline maybe made it look as if we were attacking a bit more.

“I’m not aware of any other plan, unless they had meetings without me there.”

DannyInvincible
26/03/2017, 1:06 PM
Gibson said before there wasn't one: http://www.ciarano.me/post/61944556607/gibson-trap-was-lucky-euro-2012-ended-after-three

Heh, they can't both be right.

tetsujin1979
26/03/2017, 2:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Stephen Hunt said before there was no mutiny either. Andrews' comments suggest it was a mentality switch among the players as much as anything

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2017, 12:38 AM
I'm pretty sure Stephen Hunt said before there was no mutiny either. Andrews' comments suggest it was a mentality switch among the players as much as anything
That'd be the most likely thing, I think. Just guys deciding that stepping outside of their usual roles was the right thing to do, and it just started working from there.

tetsujin1979
20/06/2018, 5:20 PM
Andrews gave his Ireland at the World Cup XI on NewsTalk earlier. It's...interesting
jfslyhc0u6Y
Also has his thoughts on the current management

Stuttgart88
22/06/2018, 9:58 AM
I wouldn't agree with his personnel choices, but I agree wholeheartedly with his views on the coaching arrangements.

OwlsFan
27/06/2018, 4:24 PM
Smart guy and a leader. I think we'll hear more from him.

You were right but did you think it would be as a pundit?