Anthony Stokes (F free agent b.1988) [Archive] - Page 11

youngirish

05/01/2007, 4:43 PM

Hopefully he will go to Charlton, Sunderland is vastly becoming a club for Paddies who are not good enough for the premiership....... i am suprised a lot of other clubs like man city and Villa have not made a serious bid for him.
I heard a rumour that Newcastle were considering a 4.5 million bid for that donkey Kris Boyd. If this is true and they haven't put in a bid for Stokes (a far better, younger and cheaper player) then Roeder should share the same fate as Souness did. The shocking players that club has paid over the odds for. It defies belief.

If Stokes joins Charlton he'll more than likely be playing in the Championship next season which may not be such a bad thing at his age.

tricky_colour

05/01/2007, 5:08 PM

I hope he goes to Charlton, more chance of seeing him on TV then.... well....at least untill they get relegated anyway.

I think a short period on loan would suit Arsenal, if he can score as freely there it will make �2 million odd look chicken feed.

eirebhoy

05/01/2007, 5:18 PM

I'm completely biased but I'd love him to go to Celtic. He wouldn't have much trouble getting a game. He may not be up against great teams every week but he'll be scoring plenty and then has the 6-10 European games, 4 Old Firms, trips to the Edinburgh teams, cup finals and the like. I definitely think it can only be good for Ireland to have a striker playing first team football for Celtic. It didn't do Larsson any harm.

Strachan confirmed today he put bids in for a couple of players, I hope Stokes is one.

DeNiro

05/01/2007, 5:44 PM

The Herald:rolleyes: has it that Celtic may still be in for him. It might not be a bad move. He's playing with Internationals there at least. My only fear at Charlton would be that he might be carrying a big burden to keep them up.

dodgycanadian

05/01/2007, 6:54 PM

Id prefer to have him at Sunderland. The direction Charlton is going in looks disasterous... At least with Sunderland he can establish himself by scoring at a lower level in the Championship and even put them over the top to get them back in the premiership for next season.

cclinton

05/01/2007, 9:10 PM

Celtic would be best at his age. From there he could really give proof to his abilities and could move on the something else of significance later on if he wanted to. There's a bigger potential downside with Sunderland and Charlton.

From another perspective, there's several forwards who have played at Celtic, or are currently playing there where the contribution to their international team has been or is a positive.

co. down green

05/01/2007, 9:10 PM

This is the latest.

Friday, 5 January 2007, 19:37 GMT

Celtic table late bid for Stokes

Celtic have tabled a late bid to sign 18-year-old striker Anthony Stokes from Arsenal, BBC Scotland understands.

Charlton Athletic and Sunderland were thought to have agreed a fee with the London club for the young Irishman.

However, the Glasgow club are believed to have matched the fee and the youngster now has a decision to make about his future.

Stokes netted 14 SPL goals in 16 appearances with Falkirk since moving on-loan from Arsenal in September.

He spent the first half of the season at Falkirk, but his loan spell ended at Christmas before returning to the Gunners in the January transfer window.

eirebhoy

06/01/2007, 10:01 AM

Yeah a guy on a Celtic forum said yesterday that those 3 clubs had bids accepted and it was a lot less than �2.7m.

Billsthoughts

06/01/2007, 11:54 AM

Id like to see him go to celtic. charlton may go down and never come back up. sunderland have the most fickle fans in england. altho Id question wheter staying at celtic for so long didnt do larson any harm.

eirebhoy

06/01/2007, 1:52 PM

Arsenal striker Anthony Stokes is in Glasgow for signing talks with Celtic, BBC Scotland understands.

Celtic would make a �1m downpayment for the 18-year-old in a deal that could increase substantially depending on his number of appearances.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/f/falkirk/6235101.stm

I'd be delighted if this happens.

stickyjoe

06/01/2007, 3:27 PM

i`ve heard hes left celitc park and on his way to charlton. couldn`t agree wages. not sure how true that is

Merc67

06/01/2007, 3:39 PM

he has agreed the deal with Charlton. nothing to do with wages, just the premiership calling....100% done deal.

shame, would have liked to see him at Celtic. oh well...

eirebhoy

06/01/2007, 3:40 PM

Celtic will sign Arsenal's 18-year-old Irish striker Anthony Stokes at 5pm, sources in the club have said.

The fee involved will be �3.6m, with Stokes earning �1.8m a year.

Stokes netted 14 goals in 16 games for Falkirk in the SPL before Christmas.

Charlton Athletic and Sunderland had also agreed a fee with the London club for the young Irishman, and Roy Keane is reported to have spent six hours trying to persuade Stokes to sign last night.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=CWSNCWKFIDID

That's crazy money for someone his age.

pete

06/01/2007, 4:08 PM

Celtic need a replacement for Keane so can 'squeeze' the irish market. McGeady doesn't sell many jerseys but Stokes has more potential...

eirebhoy

06/01/2007, 4:11 PM

Celtic need a replacement for Keane so can 'squeeze' the irish market.
Don't be using the Scottish rags "quotes". ;) Lawwell was misquoted that day.

Charlton are favourites to sign him. If it comes down to money Charlton are certs. You don't join Celtic for the money. :)

FarBeag

06/01/2007, 5:08 PM

He has signed a four and a half year deal with Charlton according to Sky Sports news. Having a medical tomorrow.

Qwerty

06/01/2007, 6:51 PM

Hope it works out for him but I would have advised against such a move. You're better off going to a team that is winning, Charlton are a club on the verge of a crisis, and there will be immediate pressure on Stokes to score goals, if he doesn't...

shakermaker1982

06/01/2007, 7:54 PM

I went to see Forest-Charlton today and this might not be such a good move for Stokes after all. Charlton were absolutely hopeless - no effort and no fight in them. With Bent gone/injured the onus will be on him to get the goals to keep em up but the midfield do not create anything, the poor lad could be frustrated. Hasselbaink is only thinking about retirement and BMW's when out on the pitch!!! To put things into perspective Forest have been very average all season but played well today -

A few of the Forest lads went on 2nd Jan and caused a bit of trouble (made all the local news and it came the very next day after their 5 nil thrashing so fans were not impressed) - a few ex players were with some of the senior forest players and Andy Reid was one of them apparently..... good to see him resting that hamstring!!!

dodgycanadian

06/01/2007, 8:26 PM

Bendtner was stretchered off in a 2 all draw with Newcastle today added with the fact that Lupoli wants to go back to Italy could actually change the face of the Stokes saga. Still no official word on where he has signed, so any chance Wenger has decided to keep him?

FarBeag

06/01/2007, 9:24 PM

http://www.arsenal-now.com/news/3103463/Stokes-I-will-join-Charlton-till-2011.html

dr_peepee

07/01/2007, 6:41 AM

Yeah!! Heard it Sky Sports news last night. Very disapointed to be honest:( . I would've thought Charlton would have been third choice behind Sunderland and Celtic.... He made some noises about signing for Celtic Earlier in the year.

Charlton are on a downward spiral. As far as I've read they don't have much money to spend so such an investment indicates to me that they're selling Darren Bent very soon. Hopefully pardew can turn it around. They're six points away from safety though. They say that once you're more than one result from getting out of the zone it's time to start worrying.

I'm surprised Aston Villa showed no interest. They need a forward and O'Neill knows the scottish game so would have some measure of his ability.

as_i_say

07/01/2007, 10:28 AM

he must have been paid an absolute bucket load. charlton look as doomed as leeds did that year and look like they are on the verge of utter implosion. but sure contracts dfont mean sh it anyway. hope it works out for him

eirebhoy

07/01/2007, 10:37 AM

I'd be pretty sure it went down to money as Celtic don't pay premiership wages. The reported wage he was offered by Charlton is what Maloney is looking for and they won't pay him. Nakamura is on less than �20k a week, along with most players. The max you'd get is �30k. Stokes would have been given less than �10k in his first season at Celtic.

Superhoops

07/01/2007, 1:11 PM

Does not appear to be any official announcement about signing for Charlton. I still think he is going to Sunderland.

tetsujin1979

07/01/2007, 2:07 PM

reports in today's indo that sunderland have hijacked the deal right at the death

http://www.unison.ie/sportsdesk/stories.php3?ca=12&si=1750546

dodgycanadian

07/01/2007, 5:31 PM

probably the same type of **** his father pulled when he had a deal with man united on the table. hes being toted to the highest bidder of weekly wages

citizenerased

07/01/2007, 6:11 PM

he is going to sunderland, it haws been announced(pending a medical)

Fergie's Son

07/01/2007, 6:20 PM

Interesting move. A year or two in the Championship might be good for him. Let's hope he lives up to the hype.

galwayhoop

07/01/2007, 6:25 PM

elliot, daryl murphy, david connolly.... how many irish strikers do they need??

DeNiro

07/01/2007, 6:52 PM

he is going to sunderland, it haws been announced(pending a medical)

Where was it announced?

Superhoops

08/01/2007, 5:38 AM

Where was it announced?
From todays Indo:

Keane gets his man as Stokes signs on

THE Anthony Stokes transfer saga should come to an end today when the Dubliner completes a medical and signs on the dotted line at Sunderland after the persuasion of Roy Keane influenced the Dubliner's decision to snub Charlton.

Last-minute efforts by Keane and chairman Niall Quinn on Saturday evening resulted in a dramatic turn of events just after Stokes had given an interview explaining why he had chosen Charlton over the alternative options.

"It was a very, very tough call but the prospect of playing in the Premiership was what drew me to Charlton," said the 18-year-old.

Yet that would all change when Sunderland swooped with a decisive intervention by matching the �17,000-a-week offer on the table from the London club.

And when Keane contacted the player after watching his side exit the FA Cup at the hands of Preston on Saturday afternoon, he convinced him again that choosing the Championship side was the right option.

It's understood that Stokes was keen on a move to Sunderland anyway after meeting Keane for marathon talks on Friday, but advisors were leaning towards Charlton due to the financial package the relegation battlers were offering.

When the Irish connection at the Stadium of Light came up with the financial goods then the path was cleared for Stokes to follow up his preferred option of working with Keane and joining the green contingent on Wearside.

Cash-strapped

Arsenal will receive a combined total of �2.7million for his services while cash-strapped eircom League champions Shelbourne, the club Stokes left as a schoolboy to join the Gunners, are waiting to see if they will benefit from the deal.

It had been anticipated that Stokes would complete a medical in Sunderland yesterday but that should now take place today instead.

Officially, the Black Cats have refused to comment until a deal is done - similar to the manner in which the transfer of Luton midfielder Carlos Edwards was handled last week.

Plastic Paddy

08/01/2007, 9:25 AM

I'm with Gordon Strachan on this one. If the boy really is putting money in front of ambition then he deserves to achieve mediocrity.

“If people don’t want to come here [Celtic Park], win titles and play with good players at the highest level in Europe in front of 60,000 fans with a chance of becoming a legendary figure that’s fine by me. If you can get that elsewhere, then fair enough".

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2767-2535350,00.html

:ball: PP

youngirish

08/01/2007, 9:45 AM

I'm with Gordon Strachan on this one. If the boy really is putting money in front of ambition then he deserves to achieve mediocrity.

Don't agree. I believe the opposite. Going up to play in the SPL shows a lack of ambition to test yourself week in week out against quality opposition (instead of just doing it a handful of times in the Champions league every other season). Stokes will very possibly be playing in the Premiership next season if he joins Sunderland as I reckon they still have a good chance at promotion. This is where he should be if he's as good as he thinks he is.

Royal rover

08/01/2007, 10:47 AM

Don't agree. I believe the opposite. Going up to play in the SPL shows a lack of ambition to test yourself week in week out against quality opposition (instead of just doing it a handful of times in the Champions league every other season). Stokes will very possibly be playing in the Premiership next season if he joins Sunderland as I reckon they still have a good chance at promotion. This is where he should be if he's as good as he thinks he is.

That's complete and utter bull****, you speak of a lack of ambition, you gain far more exposure playing for someone Celtic or Rangers than playing for Wigan or any of these lower ranked premiership teams, how many players at Sunderland would be good enough to even make the Celtic squad!! Ok your right in saying the oppposition it not quite up to scratch in Scotland, but players like Camara who couldn't hack it at Celtic, look at Bardlsley who's leaving for Villa couldn't get a game at Rangers, Ther is also no guarantee Stokes will play in the premiership next season, Sunderland are'ny exactly flying at present

citizenerased

08/01/2007, 10:55 AM

Yeah I think sunderland will deffo be a good move for him, and its somethin sunderland really need as well as all their strikers(inc Elliot) are extremeley wasteful!!! It will be a nice test for as well.

citizenerased

08/01/2007, 10:57 AM

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Ther is also no guarantee Stokes will play in the premiership next season, Sunderland are'ny exactly flying at present

They are about 4 points off the payoffs, all they need as a decent striker like stokes to propel them,,,the championship is wide open..

Closed Account

08/01/2007, 10:58 AM

Sunderland was/is a shocking career choice. Roy Keane has played a little bit too much football manager. Bringing players in with his left hand and pushing them out with his right. Mark my words, Tony will regret it.

drummerboy

08/01/2007, 11:17 AM

In fairness, I think he will get more games with Sunderland than Celtic. There are better quality strikers already at Celtic. I detect a hint of bitterness form Strachan. Stokes would be lucky to start 5 games for Celtic between now and the seasons end.

Royal rover

08/01/2007, 11:22 AM

drummerboy

08/01/2007, 11:26 AM

Riordan was one of the top scorers last season and waited 4 months for a start and then he was played on the left side of midfield. Van Hassesslink of wherever is a current Dutch international and just back from injury, Miller is current Scotland international and Zur**** a current Polish international. I think stokes will probably eventually surpass all these but he will take time to develop. If he wanted to play reserve team football, he would be better off doing it at Arsenal.

galwayhoop

08/01/2007, 11:33 AM

There are better quality strikers already at Celtic.

WHO?

how can you say that and the young fella top of the scoring charts this season in scotland with no celtic player within an arsesroar of him.

in fact celtic's problem this season has been their strikers:
jan veenagor of hessilink: injured more often than not
maloney: off colour compared with last year
miller: great work rate but hardly prolific
zurwaski: good finisher but serious lack of pace
beattie: not gettin a game
riordan: not gettin a game

honestly cant see any of the above gettin in much ahead of stokes if the reports are to be believed. prefered strike force would be hessilink & stokes or miller & stokes, depending on the opposition.

it really does bode badly for stokes (or his advisors(!)) if he was putting the financial package ahead of the development / long term prospects of the player. this is the kind of sh1t that agents in shinny suits used to do in order to make a quick few quid. shocking - sack your oul fella anthony before he scuppers your career before it starts!!!!!

citizenerased

08/01/2007, 11:35 AM

considering sunderland lost 5 out of the first 6 when he took over keane aint doin that bad, i guarantee they will make playoffs, the amount of chances they waste is sinful, stokes will be link, that will get them to playoffs

youngirish

08/01/2007, 11:44 AM

That's complete and utter bull.
No it's 100% true.

you speak of a lack of ambition, you gain far more exposure playing for someone Celtic or Rangers than playing for Wigan or any of these lower ranked premiership teams, how many players at Sunderland would be good enough to even make the Celtic squad!!
Pure unadulterratted deluded sh*te. Maybe in Scotland they get more exposure, nowhere else. Does Kenny Miller get more exposure than Darren Bent? Is he a better player?

I also like the nonsense you write about Sunderland players not even getting into the Celtic squad. This shows you haven't a clue when one of their main strikers is Kenny Miller who has a Championship scoring record worse than Connolly. Liam Miller anyone?

Anyway your above arguments are all nonsense anyway. The only thing that's important is the quality of the football he'll be playing week in week out and at Celtic that's not anywhere near Premiership (or even Championship) level most weeks - the old firm games being the exception. If he's any use he needs to play at a decent level and not f**k about against laughable opposition. He could easily be playing in the Premiership next season and until then he has a chance to develop his skills in the competitive Championship .

galwayhoop

08/01/2007, 12:07 PM

No it's 100% true.
I also like the nonsense you write about Sunderland players not even getting into the Celtic squad. This shows you haven't a clue when one of their main strikers is Kenny Miller who has a Championship scoring record worse than Connolly. Liam Miller anyone?

kenny miller's strength is most definately not his scoring ability - he is more hustle and bustle, run the channels, closing down the defenders and holding up the ball. he creates more than converts. connolly is an out and out goal scorer who has 'found his level' in the championship and he offers very little else apart for his goals. in fairness there are very few strikers who have a better scoring record in the championship.

liam miller was in his first season breaking into the celtic squad when he decided to move to manchester united when contract expired at end of season. he was strongly advised by many to stay for at least one more season for his own development but decided to go. money again appears to have been a factor. played reserve, struggled to make an impact and is now one of the nearly men, another IMO who has found his level in the championship. similar to stephen mcphail.

HOWEVER, i believe that stokes had 2 choices - celtic or sunderland. charlton are a dead duck going south! the pressure there is not what a young fella needs. i know there is pressure everywhere in football but at charlton every game is a must win and after every failure the morale of the squad would drop another notch. at both sunderland & celtic the mood is much more optamistic and both clubs are in the acendancy.