World Ranking

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The slide continues. After playing and losing to 5 of the top 11 teams in the world (Greece 11th......) in a calendar year, it looks like we'll finish the year in 44th. Deservedly.
http://www.football-rankings.info/2012/11/fifa-ranking-december-2012-probable_4403.html


The only way is up right?



1
Spain
1606
0
42


2
Germany
1437
0
16


3
Argentina
1256
0
-93


4
Italy
1165
1
-4


5
Colombia
1164
3
54


6
England
1151
0
-16


7
Portugal
1144
-3
-34


8
Netherlands
1124
-1
-4


9
Russia
1070
0
-14


10
Croatia
1064
0
-14


11
Greece
1033
1
29


44
Bolivia
609
7
24


44
Gabon
609
8
28


44

Republic of Ireland
609
-8
-73



72
Scotland
490
-2
2


83
Wales
435
-17
-62


95
Northern Ireland
367
5
11

[Sullivinho]

The 'thumbs down' icon in the thread title looked a bit out of place there for a while but its aptness has returned with a vengeance!

[DannyInvincible]

Utter ****e; a 'pants down' icon might be more apt!

[Charlie Darwin]

Now now, Gabon are an up and coming side. No shame in that.

[DannyInvincible]

Now now, Gabon are an up and coming side. No shame in that.

And Bowelivia?

[tetsujin1979]

And Bowelivia?
didn't they beat Brazil recently?

[Fixer82]

Utter ****e; a 'pants down' icon might be more apt!

Any chance of a 'knickers down' one?

[TrapAPony]

Haiti are now better than Ireland..Sweet jesus:mad:

[DannyInvincible]

Not as bad as first feared; we end the year ranked 42nd... :rolleyes:

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2012/12/19/3613746/ireland-drop-six-places-to-end-2012-at-42-in-fifa-ranking


Ireland have fallen to 42nd position in the December Fifa ranking, their lowest position since 2006.

The Boys in Green suffered defeat in the recent friendly against Greece at the Aviva Stadium and the subsequent ranking release has confirmed the six-position drop from November's 36th place.

Giovanni Trapatoni's side have fallen a massive 19 places since January and now find themselves behind Egypt and Haiti, alongside Bolivia and Gabon on 609 ranking points.

[Charlie Darwin]

How long until Trap arrives to tell us that rankings are irrelevant?

[Crosby87]

Honestly, how could we be behind Haiti? They dont even have....an eco system anymore. They cut all the trees down to sell the lumber and all the animals died. Im serious.

[Charlie Darwin]

They also draw players from the League of Ireland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_Millien

[ArdeeBhoy]

Being fair to us and Haiti, they haven't played Spain, Italy & Germany in 2012...

[Charlie Darwin]

They have played the US, however, a soccer roster with great hustle and a number of MVPs.

[BonnieShels]

they have played the us, however, a soccer roster with great hustle and a number of mvps.

gaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DannyInvincible]

They have played the US, however, a soccer roster with great hustle and a number of MVPs.

Not to mention its awesome 11-4-3 compilation stretching back to 10/08, 2011.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Didn't the US lose to someone 'crap' recently though?
And I think, considerably worse than Haiti...

[DannyInvincible]

In reverse chronological order, they've lost to Jamaica, Brazil, France, Ecuador, Belgium and Costa Rica since the beginning of September, 2011.

[The Fly]

Brazil are 18th! Surely they've never been as low that before?

[Charlie Darwin]

Brazil are 18th! Surely they've never been as low that before?
And this in spite of their exhibition victory over the all-star US roster.

[DannyInvincible]

As World Cup hosts and automatic qualifiers, their potential to pick up significant ranking points must be severely limited.

[The Fly]

Good point.

[DannyInvincible]

Up one place to 41st despite not having played: http://www.thescore.ie/need-something-to-cheer-about-ireland-are-up-one-place-in-the-fifa-rankings-757780-Jan2013/


IRELAND HAVE HALTED their slide down the FIFA rankings – albeit without playing.

Giovanni Trapattoni’s side began 2012 in 22nd position but, after three defeats at Euro 2012 was followed by the 6-1 annihilation by Germany in Dublin, by December had fallen to 42nd – their lowest end-of-year ranking since 2006.

However, despite the fact that they have featured since a 1-0 loss to Greece in November, the Boys in Green have moved up one place and now sit just behind Haiti, African champions Zambia, Turkey and Bolivia.

Edit: Actually, I think we're up three places. Must be an error in the article. Weren't we 44th when they were last updated?

[tricky_colour]

Mali at 25th!! But they only every seem to play African teams so a bit hard to compare teams from different federations.

[Bungle]

Does anybody know if the world rankings will have an impact on the seeding at the world cup :) or more realistically the next Euro campaign :( ?

[tricky_colour]

We will be judged on our form one way or another so I think we will be lucky to get a 3rd seeding, second seems out the window now?

[pineapple stu]

Does anybody know if the world rankings will have an impact on the seeding at the world cup :) or more realistically the next Euro campaign :( ?
I think the World Cup seedings (for what good it'll do us) tend to go on previous performances for the top seeds, and then regional splits thereafter.

[geysir]

The seedings for the Euro 2016 qual draw will probably be based on the UEFA coefficients, same as they (http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefa/KeyTopics/92/18/20/921820_DOWNLOAD.pdf) were for the Euro 2012 qual draw.
Presently (http://www.football-rankings.info/2012/11/euro-2016-qualifying-draw-seeding-23.html), we are at the lower end of the second batch, not bad considering the 3 losses at the Finals are also considered.

[swinfordfc]

So does last night win do us any good?

[BonnieShels]

Up to 39th in the latest rankings released this monring.

Tans up to 4th, Scotland 64th, Wales 68th, IFA's representative team 102nd.

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/index.html

[geysir]

There's definitely more transparency these days on the FIFA ranking's page about how they calculate the points.
Transparency as in, you don't need a knowledge of maths' equations to work it out.

I see Iceland are still keeping their noses ahead of NI despite the IFA's attempts to gain a few ranking points by playing Malta in a friendly.
Meanwhile Iceland took on Russia in a friendly. Capello was asked if this was to prepare them for the upcoming clash against NI. Capello replied, “Unfortunately, Iceland aren’t similar to our next opponents in the qualifying tournament, Northern Ireland,” he said. “ they (Iceland) are a team who pass a lot and they don’t have a system of pelting long balls at a player near the goal.” :D

[BonnieShels]

There's definitely more transparency these days on the FIFA ranking's page about how they calculate the points.
Transparency as in, you don't need a knowledge of maths' equations to work it out.

I see Iceland are still keeping their noses ahead of NI despite the IFA's attempts to gain a few ranking points by playing Malta in a friendly.
Meanwhile Iceland took on Russia in a friendly. Capello was asked if this was to prepare them for the upcoming clash against NI. Capello replied, “Unfortunately, Iceland aren’t similar to our next opponents in the qualifying tournament, Northern Ireland,” he said. “ they (Iceland) are a team who pass a lot and they don’t have a system of pelting long balls at a player near the goal.” :D

Two teams, one island, one nation, one system. :)

[Crosby87]

Arent the rankings as fixed as the rest of the sport?:rolleyes:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbZi0MZYmFP1Tawk2xRrEFvCB0ZMqBB IF_L77uPMYggNZ2qJ_B

[BonnieShels]

Yes.

But id appreciate if you'd delete that photo.

it's like looking a dead body of a loved one mangled after a car crash.

[swinfordfc]

39th .... its a small step in the right direction ........

[DannyInvincible]

Despite beating Poland, we're down one place to 40th in the latest rankings: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2013/03/14/3823987/ireland-down-one-place-in-fifa-rankings

[Crosby87]

Below Paraguay. Panama lurking around our every move...

[swinfordfc]

I guess after these results there be no change as the good result against Swedan will just balanced the bad result against Austria?

[geysir]

We strengthen our 22nd place on the UEFA list. Can't use this stunning defensive solidity as a reason to sack Trap.
Meanwhile Iceland continue their roll, steamrolling over 6 teams in the UEFA list to 34th place, nestling in behind Austria.
NI drop down further, down to the depths of pre qualifier standard teams, according to the DeLorean method of minnow weeding.

[Charlie Darwin]

It's amazing NI are in such deep trouble considering the conventional wisdom that the likes of Wilson and McClean wouldn't get anywhere near their first team.

[geysir]

There was an owc contributor here, who once claimed that Gibson wouldn't get near the NI midfield

[Charlie Darwin]

I do recall that and various other comments about the other 'dafactors'. We are talking about a culture that promotes this kind of thought (https://twitter.com/AreWeACountry/status/316557058411466753). I'm sure it barely even qualifies as a leap in logic to suggest Gibson would be met by an effective glass ceiling courtesy of Grant McCann and Sammy Clingan.

[geysir]

In the tv highlights, NI were okay against Israel, but undone by a typical Israel performance.
I had a wry black smile at the sight of Dudu, our old nemesis, rolling around the floor in agony.

[BonnieShels]

NI drop down further, down to the depths of pre qualifier standard teams, according to the DeLorean method of minnow weeding.

They'll soon be the fabled 208th team that no one in FIFA care about.

[DannyInvincible]

I do recall that and various other comments about the other 'dafactors'. We are talking about a culture that promotes this kind of thought (https://twitter.com/AreWeACountry/status/316557058411466753). I'm sure it barely even qualifies as a leap in logic to suggest Gibson would be met by an effective glass ceiling courtesy of Grant McCann and Sammy Clingan.

https://twitter.com/AreWeACountry/status/317058810588045314


we probably do have our best pool of players in ages but we lack a top quality strikers so will always struggle to score - sad but true

https://twitter.com/AreWeACountry/status/317058886429450240


our back four can be as good as most in the world

The mind boggles... :bulgy:


In the tv highlights, NI were okay against Israel, but undone by a typical Israel performance.
I had a wry black smile at the sight of Dudu, our old nemesis, rolling around the floor in agony.

Ha, he wasn't actually at it again, was he? Poor craiturs; I wouldn't have wished him on even the IFA and their band of malcontents!

[geysir]

Ha, he wasn't actually at it again, was he? Poor craiturs; I wouldn't have wished him on even the IFA and their band of malcontents!
It was different at that stage as Israel weren't hanging on desperately. There were only one or two opportunities for Dudu, he didn't have to go through his full repertoire but he didn't let us down.
It must be his party piece back in Israel, brings the party to a side splitting standstill as he goes through his agonised time wasting routines, to rousing cries for encore after encore.

[swinfordfc]

39th in new rankings on April 11th

[IsMiseSean]

39th in new rankings on April 11th

Out of interest. With our current ranking what pot would we be in for the Euro qualifying draw? I'm guessing pot 3..

[ArdeeBhoy]

Aren't we in Pot 3 anyway?

Unless of course we can win our remaining WCQ's, bar Germany away. But won't happen.

[IsMiseSean]

I think we made it up to pot 2 after the WCQ draw and before the Euro 2012, but like I said I'm guessing we're back down in pot 3 now...