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Closed Account
14/10/2011, 2:34 PM
Guys, in the UEFA ranking / play-off seeding context, which of our 2010/11 friendly results would have contributed to our seeding? was the win over Italy critical? Was the Carling Cup important?
UEFA ranking doesn't take any friendlies into account, only qualifier and finals games for Euro 08, WC 2010 and Euro 12.
swinfordfc
14/10/2011, 11:00 PM
UEFA ranking doesn't take any friendlies into account, only qualifier and finals games for Euro 08, WC 2010 and Euro 12.
So does the play offs be included in the UEFA ranking? .... and if they do ... could we get ahead of France in 12th?
Closed Account
15/10/2011, 12:01 AM
So does the play offs be included in the UEFA ranking? .... and if they do ... could we get ahead of France in 12th?They are included but our potential points can't catch France.
tetsujin1979
19/10/2011, 9:21 AM
Confirmed - 25th in latest rankings: http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
45 Wales 619 45 245
They've missed a '1' in front of our ranking number, surely? :o
Seems incredible that we were 117th just two months ago. In that time we even managed to lose a game. Quite unbelieveable.
geysir
19/10/2011, 3:04 PM
Wales are back with a bullet, up 45 places since last month.
thejollyrodger
19/10/2011, 5:49 PM
Up to 25th is great !! we were in the 30's for ages. If we get to the euro finals it will do us wonders :)
Kingdom
19/10/2011, 6:22 PM
The JollyRodger is back! If lopez makes a post I'll be looking out for a few fellows on horseback.
Edit, actually just realised that's been a semi-regular occurance over the summer. Who was the other "Shels" fan from wayback that stopped posting?
It was Slash/Ed
BonnieShels
19/10/2011, 6:26 PM
They've missed a '1' in front of our ranking number, surely? :o
Seems incredible that we were 117th just two months ago. In that time we even managed to lose a game. Quite unbelieveable.
It's easy to rocket up the rankings when you are very low down as you inevitable win and it's more than likely against higher ranked opposition. Look at Montenegro.
The hard bit is breaking the 20's-30's and teens.
Well done Wales.
dantheman
19/10/2011, 6:55 PM
If we beat Estonia home and away (!) in the qualifiers, we'll be on 914 points. That looks like top 20.
All combos:
2W (914) - currently 19 in rankings
1W1D (864) - currently 22 in rankings
1W1L (839) - currently 24 in rankings
2D (813) - currently 25 in rankings
1D1L (788) - currently 26 in rankings
2L (763) - currently 29 in rankings
The order of victories does not seem to matter (ie two away wins in the playoffs is the same movement as two home wins)
ArdeeBhoy
20/10/2011, 1:04 AM
So we are par for two draws then??
:(
ArdeeBhoy
20/10/2011, 1:07 AM
If lopez makes a post I'll be looking out for a few fellows on horseback.
He did at least one, around the time of the Andorra game...
co. down green
21/10/2011, 1:12 PM
Could move up to 18th with two play-off wins
http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/10/fifa-ranking-november-2011-probable_21.html
French Toasht
21/10/2011, 1:54 PM
Unfortunately FIFA rankings are of no consequence to us until November 2013. The WC 2014 qualification draw has already been made and the Euro 2012 draw is based on UEFA co-efficients, and if we do qualify it is impossible to be anything other than bottom seeds.
FIFA have admitted they got it wrong making the WC draw so early, prior to the finish of the Euro qualifiers. They have stated they won't follow that precedent again.
Unfortunately for us had the draw for WC 2014 qualification taken place around now or the next two months, we would not have ended up with as difficult a group as we have and would certainly have avoided Sweden as we would have been 2nd seeds.
The unfairness of the draw can be highlighted by the fact that Norway were a first seed for that draw and have missed out on even a play-off for the euros. Also Slovenia were a second seed and came 4th in their qualification group.
Both these two teams have been drawn in the same group as top two seeds, whilst Germany and Sweden are in ours. The disparity in standards between those two groups is remarkable and highlights just how wrong FIFA were to draw the groups before the Euro 2012 qualification process finished.
swinfordfc
21/10/2011, 10:14 PM
All i an interested in now is beating Estonia twice and getting to the euros and moving up the rankings. The world cup qualifying are a year away ..... worry about them next september or after Estonia if it goes all wrong!
boovidge
21/10/2011, 11:39 PM
FIFA screw us over again! Why did they change the time of the WC draw this year? Anybody with two brain cells to rub together could have told them it was stupid to do it before the end of qualifying.
backstothewall
22/10/2011, 8:00 AM
IIRC they drew the whole world on one day. Some parts of the world have already started so I guess they probably left it as late as they could.
backstothewall
22/10/2011, 8:35 AM
IIRC they drew the whole world on one day. Some parts of the world have already started so I guess they probably left it as late as they could.
Edgar
24/10/2011, 11:02 AM
This would have been your group:
Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Poland, Iceland, Cyprus
More details: 2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: July vs. October 2011
(http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/10/2014-fifa-world-cup-seeding-july-vs.html)
geysir
24/10/2011, 11:52 AM
That would have been my desired draw.
dantheman
24/10/2011, 5:34 PM
FIFA screw us over again! Why did they change the time of the WC draw this year? Anybody with two brain cells to rub together could have told them it was stupid to do it before the end of qualifying.
On the other hand, we could have got this draw in Group E:
Norway
Slovenia
Ireland (Switzerland )
Albania
Cyprus
Iceland
Which would have been very nice
swinfordfc
11/11/2011, 9:59 PM
Need another win on Tuesday to keep pushing upwards ...... We could be in 18th spot with another win.
swinfordfc
16/11/2011, 2:43 PM
So with all the excitement of qualifying ..... where are we in the rankings next Wednesday?
dantheman
16/11/2011, 3:09 PM
So with all the excitement of qualifying ..... where are we in the rankings next Wednesday?
About 22
I'll go with 21st.
FIFA Ranking (http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/11/fifa-ranking-november-2011-final.html): November 2011 final preview.
dantheman
18/11/2011, 10:14 AM
I'll go with 21st.
FIFA Ranking (http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/11/fifa-ranking-november-2011-final.html): November 2011 final preview.
And what would you know? :o
We would have been 16th with a win
toffeeforever
18/11/2011, 12:30 PM
seems to be bouncing around the twitterverse that we are 21st. (obivously if it is on twitter it must be true)
swinfordfc
18/11/2011, 2:24 PM
21st ...... not to bad ..... This will shut down till February 2012 i guess
ifk101
23/11/2011, 11:42 AM
21st it is then.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/1123/ireland_rankings_fifa.html
koneinc
23/11/2011, 2:19 PM
Not too bad, raging we didn't get the win at home against Estonia
tricky_colour
23/11/2011, 4:28 PM
Yea it would be nice to be in the 'teens' as opposed to the twenties.
BonnieShels
23/11/2011, 11:35 PM
Yea it would be nice to be in the 'teens' as opposed to the twenties.
Very much illegal here in that case. North of the border with ya!
swinfordfc
26/11/2011, 9:50 PM
Well we drop down to 22nd on the 21st December .......
DannyInvincible
27/11/2011, 12:13 AM
Well we drop down to 22nd on the 21st December .......
Going backwards? Trap out.
swinfordfc
21/12/2011, 1:09 PM
So we are 22nd in the world rankings ..... but we are 10th best team achieving the most points over the last year. Wales top this section, very fitting for Gary Speed memory ....he going to be a huge loss to Welsh football.
Sullivinho
19/01/2012, 1:59 PM
Down one place to 23 in the latest rankings. (http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html)
swinfordfc
20/01/2012, 10:20 PM
But up two places in February ones .......to 21st
swinfordfc
05/02/2012, 8:05 PM
Come on Tunisia in the quarter final of the Africa cup of nations .....
Closed Account
10/02/2012, 10:35 AM
Up to 20th in the World (15th in UEFA)
http://www.football-rankings.info/2012/02/fifa-ranking-february-2012-final.html
Our best postion since Oct 01(20th) to Aug 05(14th) when we peaked at 12th.
Charlie Darwin
10/02/2012, 11:32 AM
Nice one! We didn't even have to play.
swinfordfc
15/02/2012, 7:27 PM
20th in the world ....... nice start to 2012 ...... whats happen if we beat the Czech?
tricky_colour
15/02/2012, 8:54 PM
Nice one! We didn't even have to play.
We're a better side when we're not playing :p
BonnieShels
15/02/2012, 8:58 PM
It seems that way. Why are there so many updates now?
The Fly
15/02/2012, 9:25 PM
Surely it's time to remove the 'Thumbs down' from the thread title!?
nigel-harps1954
15/02/2012, 9:43 PM
Surely it's time to remove the 'Thumbs down' from the thread title!?
Wait until we're number 1. ;)
tetsujin1979
15/02/2012, 11:10 PM
It seems that way. Why are there so many updates now?
Probably due to the African Cup of Nations
BonnieShels
15/02/2012, 11:44 PM
Probably due to the African Cup of Nations
Sure even with Qualifiers they only updated once a month usually. Ah no matter. Roll on getting into a teen. I mean into the teens.
Closed Account
16/02/2012, 12:08 AM
Sure even with Qualifiers they only updated once a month usually. Ah no matter. Roll on getting into a teen. I mean into the teens.
They still are only getting updated once a month, no more, no less.
BonnieShels
16/02/2012, 12:21 AM
They still are only getting updated once a month, no more, no less.
Then I've been in suspended animation between announcements because it has felt like they were pretty quick one after another.
French Toasht
16/02/2012, 1:40 AM
We were 6th in the world in the first ever FIFA rankings. Kind of hard to comprehend that nowadays.
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