Irish Players Abroad 06/07

[cheifo]

What about the Lafferty lad that got MOM for Celtic youths or does he qualify to play for NI>

[tetsujin1979]

What about the Lafferty lad that got MOM for Celtic youths or does he qualify to play for NI>

Yep, plays for the North: http://www.irishfa.com/squad-profiles/2166/under-17/daniel-lafferty/

[cavan_fan]

Liverpool are lining up a £1.6m swoop for Ipswich striker Billy Clarke. (News of the World)

God I hope not, Liverpool's track record of destroying strikers is second to none. Can you name a single striker who has gone to Liverpool and improved since Aldridge?

[tetsujin1979]

God I hope not, Liverpool's track record of destroying strikers is second to none. Can you name a single striker who has gone to Liverpool and improved since Aldridge?

List of Liverpool transfers here: http://www.thisisanfield.com/content.php?page_id=215

Think I've got all the strikers here, ignoring the likes of Barnes and Beardsley who could play up front as well as their recognised midfield position


2006.08.18 Dirk Kuyt 9m
2006.06.22 Craig Bellamy 6m
2006.01.29 Robbie Fowler Man City Free
2005.07.20 Peter Crouch Southampton 7m
2005.01.14 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid 6.3m
2004.07.01 Djibril Cisse Auxerre 14.5m
2002.07.16 El Hadji Diouf Lens 9.7m
2001.12.21 Nicholas Anelka PSG Loan/Not Signed
2001.08.07 Milan Baros Banik Ostrava 3.6m
2001.01.01 Jari Litmanen Barcelona Free
2000.03.10 Emile Heskey Leicester 11m
1998.05.30 Sean Dundee Karlsruhe 1.8m
1995.07.00 Stan Collymore Forest 8.5m
1991.07.00 Dean Saunders Derby 2.9m
1990.06.00 Ronnie Rosenthal Standard Liege 500.000
1988.08.18 Ian Rush Juventus 2.8m
1987.01.00 John Aldridge Oxford United 750.000The only real successes there I reckon are Rush, Saunders, Collymore (he was a decent striker at least for a short while). Crouch is doing ok at the moment, even if he hasn't played that much, he is still recognised as a regular goal scorer when he does play
Owen isn't on the list because he came through the youths, rather than being signed

[cavan_fan]

2005.01.14 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid 6.3m
2004.07.01 Djibril Cisse Auxerre 14.5m
2002.07.16 El Hadji Diouf Lens 9.7m
2001.12.21 Nicholas Anelka PSG Loan/Not Signed
2001.08.07 Milan Baros Banik Ostrava 3.6m
2001.01.01 Jari Litmanen Barcelona Free
2000.03.10 Emile Heskey Leicester 11m

£45 Million pounds and Litmanen and Anelka's wages and that produced sod all. Not sure Billy would be likely to buck the trend.

[tetsujin1979]

£45 Million pounds and Litmanen and Anelka's wages and that produced sod all. Not sure Billy would be likely to buck the trend.
Morientes is back scoring in Spain now.
Litmanen was wasted, spent most of his time on the bench. Still managed to get 5 goals in 12 starts - http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=4549

Anyway, back on topic - Les Reed reckons Andy Reid is the new Puskas! Or as he put it here: http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2018702.ece

Puskas might have been the original Andy Reid

[cavan_fan]

It's mondya afternoon and time is draggin. I noticed on the ACTIM site that they say 24 Irish players have played this season in the Premiership (Third behind English and French). Am struggling to work out who they are. I have 20 definities

Andy Reid
Holland
Carsley
Finnan
Dunne
Ireland
Given
Carr
O'Shea
Duff
Doyle
Hunt
Long
Geary
Quinn
Kenny
Keane
G Mahon
Kilbane
S Reid


and 3 possibles
Kiely
Andy O'Brien
Kavanagh - Did he play before going to Sunderland.

But this is still 23. Who am I missing?

[tetsujin1979]

David Connolly - 2 appearances for Wigan before the transfer
Kiely didn't play in the Premiership for Pompey though, so you're still out one

[BradyIsMyHero]

Interesting to see who are top rated Irish players, according to Actims's Top 100:



14 Kevin Doyle Reading

37 Steve Finnan Liverpool

52 Richard Dunne Manchester City

78 Kevin Kilbane Wigan Athletic

97 Lee Carsley Everton


No Duff, Keane, O'Shea, Carr etc

[Irish_Praha]

It's mondya afternoon and time is draggin. I noticed on the ACTIM site that they say 24 Irish players have played this season in the Premiership (Third behind English and French). Am struggling to work out who they are. I have 20 definities

Andy Reid
Holland
Carsley
Finnan
Dunne
Ireland
Given
Carr
O'Shea
Duff
Doyle
Hunt
Long
Geary
Quinn
Kenny
Keane
G Mahon
Kilbane
S Reid


and 3 possibles
Kiely
Andy O'Brien
Kavanagh - Did he play before going to Sunderland.

But this is still 23. Who am I missing?

Is G Mahon oficially Irish?

[cavan_fan]

Is G Mahon oficially Irish?

I did wonder that, there's no way on the site o see how he is classed. If he's not we are short 2 players. I was wondering has Sinnott played for Reading?

[passinginterest]

Conor Sinnott was on loan at Limerick, will possibly return to Reading in January. Limerick spell was a bit of a disaster and contract with Reading unlikely now (he was on non contract terms there). He played about 8 games for their reserves last season and scored three or four goals from midfield.

[eirebhoy]

Winger Graham Carey scored all Celtic's 3 goals on Friday. Skinner, Cahillane and Sheridan also started.

http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-11-27_1616df'

[tetsujin1979]

Unused sub Ian Daly was the only Irish interest in Man City's Reserve's 3-1 Manchester Senior Cup win over Stockport County's Reserves.

Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=382833 (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80%7D&newsid=382833)
Stockport County review: http://www.stockportcounty.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/LatestNewsDetail/0,,10419~935117,00.html?ptvParm= (http://www.stockportcounty.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/LatestNewsDetail/0,,10419%7E935117,00.html?ptvParm=)


Jim O'Brien and Darren O'Dea played the whole game, while Diarmuid O'Carroll was a late sub as Celtic's reserves won their 13th game in a row 2-0 against St Mirren's second string.
Some quotes:

The back four, superbly marshalled by O’Dea, dealt comfortably with everything St Mirren threw at them
O’Brien and Icelandic striker Finnbogason caused the experienced St Mirren rearguard a lot of problems.Celtic review: http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-11-28_1553df' (http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id=%272006-11-28_1553df%27)
St Mirren review: http://www.saintmirren.net/content/members/news06-07.php?story=1&row=3669

[theworm2345]

Elliott and Murphy started up front, Murphy had a goal off a header from 1 yard out, both played full 90, Connolly came on and hit the post, Liam Lawrence scored for Stoke

[Irish_Praha]

Heffernan and Thornton both scored for Doncaster last night against Accrington Stanley in the Football League Trophy
Northern Section quater final.

[monutdfc]

Unused sub Ian Daly was the only Irish interest in Man City's Reserve's 3-1 Manchester Senior Cup win over Stockport County's Reserves.

Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=382833 (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80%7D&newsid=382833)

Interesting, there was an Ashley Grimes playing for Manchester City!
Stephen Gleeson is on loan from Wolves at Stockport

[tetsujin1979]

Interesting, there was an Ashley Grimes playing for Manchester City!
Stephen Gleeson is on loan from Wolves at Stockport

Yeah. that's been noted before!
Didn't know about Gleeson, thanks

[CraftyToePoke]

derby v leicester 1-0

McCarthy, Logan and Maybury all played, wasnt at this one but match report here, but not a great deal of Irish interest in it:

http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/MatchReport/0,,10274~34218,00.html


norwich v leicester 3-1

again McCarthy, Logan and Maybury played with McCarthy getting a goal a booking and an injury, didnt make this one either but heres the match report with considerable McCarthy and Logan interest:

http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/MatchReport/0,,10274~34422,00.html

And finally, McCarthy is a doubt for saturday due to the midweek knee injury here:
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10274~936080,00.html

[CraftyToePoke]

here is a piece regarding Lincoln City's, Lee Frecklingtons, call up to the recent B squad and his Irish lineage from the Lincolnshire Echo site, it seems he has 2 Irish grandparents, and a very proud Mammy over it all:


http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=156588&command=displayContent&sourceNode=156412&contentPK=15883704

[dr_peepee]

Motherwell will make a decision on whether to sign trialist Shelbourne winger Richie Baker within 24 hours. (Daily Express)

[tetsujin1979]

Garry Breen and Karl Moore started for Man City's U-18 side in the FA Youth Cup last night against Millwall, with Donal McDermott coming off the bench for Moore, while fellow Irish player Michael Daly was an unused sub. The game finished 0-0 and with the game going to penalties Breen missed his kick (City's 6th) allowing Millwall to progress to the next round at the expense of last season's finalists.
Not sure about any Irish involvement for Millwall, but they had player named Joe O'Rourke and an unused sub named Pat O'Connor, surely some Irish link there?

Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=383387 (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80%7D&newsid=383387)
Millwall review: http://www.millwallfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10367~936270,00.html?ptvParm= (http://www.millwallfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10367%7E936270,00.html?ptvParm=)

[eirebhoy]

2 more goals for Sheridan in the Celtic U19s, Cahillane also scored again.

http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-12-01_1546df'

[DmanDmythDledge]

Yeah. that's been noted before!
Didn't know about Gleeson, thanks
tetsujin, I don't know if you missed it but there's an Irish lad playing in the Norwich youth team, Gareth Matthews.

[tetsujin1979]

tetsujin, I don't know if you missed it but there's an Irish lad playing in the Norwich youth team, Gareth Matthews.

Nope, didn't know that. But his name isn't in the list on page 1 either, Eirebhoy, can you add him?

[eirebhoy]

2 more goals for Sheridan in the Celtic U19s, Cahillane also scored again.

http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-12-01_1546df'
Player Ratings in this blog:
http://celticfcblog.blogspot.com/

[CraftyToePoke]

leicester v sheffield wednesday 1-4

Logan, McCarthy and Maybury played for leicester, the latter at left back on saturday, with Glenn Whelan being the only Irish interest for weds.

Mayburywas his usual self, nothing great or disastrous, going through the motions a bit and not firstchoice these days when full squad is available, will be interesting to see if he is still here after the window or if that sunderland move finally happens.

Logan, although beaten on 4 occasions did ok, and is credited with one world class save in thr O.S. report (see link) but he was booked for protesting a penalty decision to a fairly trigger happy ref.

McCarthy let himself down through indicipline sadly, while protesting, admittedly, a very soft pen,in the first half he was booked for going almost nose to nose with the ref, and after recieving the yellow he chose to sarcastically applaud the card, which could have seen him walk there and then. Early in the second half he did walk, picking up a second yellow for a tug on the arm of ex-colleague Glenn Whelan who did his countryman no favours by hitting the deck right on cue, something Paddy voiced considerable dissappointment at before departing, leaving Whelan in no doubt what he thought of him.

to rub the salt in, it was Whelan himself who went on to make the game safe
with a goal of real quality, coming onto a loose ball a long way outside the penalty area and smashing it first time into the top right hand corner as he looked at it, off the underside of the bar, i was fortunate enough to beright behind the line of it and it was as good as you will see anywhere this season.
Ironically, it was the only time in the 90 that i recall Whelan joining the attack as he played the deep midfield role superbly, always keeping posession with simple quick clever passing and never once being guilty of putting his side under pressure by losing the ball with over ambitious long diagonal balls too early in moves, which he had tended to do when ive watched him previously, he was good on sat, the best ive seen him play.

O.S. report here:
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/MatchReport/0,,10274~34452,00.html

heres Mayburys take on the deepening brown stuff at leicester:http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10274~937267,00.html

[dr_peepee]

Apparently Liam Miller played very well the weekend... Some very impressed posters on this message board... While most acknowledge he hadn't really convinced up to this weekend... Hopefully a turning point!
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=180149&page=2

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=180125

[youngirish]

I see young Stephen Quinn made his Premiership debut for Sheffield Utd last weekend. By all accounts he had an excellent game. In the highlights that I seen he looked to be one of Sheffield United's most dangerous players. He created a few chances for Hulse and had a few cracks at goal himself which is promising.

I rated his brother Alan very highly when he first burst onto the scene at Sheffield Wednesday a number of years back but he never achieved the heights that I believed he could be capable of.

It's early days yet but he should keep his place in the team (if there's any justice) for the next game. I reckon if (and I stress the word if) he continues to keep his place in the Sheffield United team he could be a challenger to McGeady for a position on one of the wings in the next (important) set of Ireland matches in 3-4 months.

Early days I know but something to think about.

[republicofwhite]

Definitely looks like he's got much more to offer(and actually played a Full Premiership Game) than the mysterious Alan O'Brien. If he manages to fulfil the same sort of potential Alan had we're in business

[soccerc]

He won the Man of the Match award despite only playing 76 mins and picked up a nice bottle of champers for his efforts. Lovely lad, still only 20 and yet to be capped at any level for his country. (Are you watching Don Givens, Stan, Devo?)

His younger brother Keith is captain of United's youth side who take on Watford in the FA Youth Cup next Tuesday at Bramall Lane.

[Paddy Garcia]

Definitely looks like he's got much more to offer(and actually played a Full Premiership Game) than the mysterious Alan O'Brien. If he manages to fulfil the same sort of potential Alan had we're in business

Dead on - on both counts

[youngirish]

Definitely looks like he's got much more to offer(and actually played a Full Premiership Game) than the mysterious Alan O'Brien. If he manages to fulfil the same sort of potential Alan had we're in business
The Alan O'Brien inclusion in the Ireland setup by Staunton was one of the most worrying things (on a list of many) that he's done since he took over. O'Brien was a nothing player, loaned out to Carlisle where he didn't particularly impress with only a couple of substitue appearances for Newcastle when they had an injury list as long as Peter Crouch. To include him in squads over the likes of Tabb, Garvan, McCann (also plays on the left) or Quinn (who was on loan and impressing at Rotherham last season, a higher level than Carlisle) shows he doesn't really have a clue and if he's building for 2010 as he says he should really be more familiar with our talented young players and those who aren't likely to make it (eg Alan O' Brien).

[drummerboy]

The only reason Alan O'Brien was capped was because Pat Devlin is his agent/advisor and is also involved in the Irish set-up. Its an abuse of his position, it could only happen in Ireland. Newcastle played an almost complete reserve team in the EUFA cup last week, and O'Brien didn't even make the bench. Perhaps he is injured but I fully expect to see him playing for Bray Wanders in the near future.

[republicofwhite]

Derek Geary seems to be progressing and doing really well at Sheffield United. As a team, they're improving and he's firmly nailed down that left back slot. He seems like a solid player player who gives 110% and likes to go forward as well. Surely he should come in to the picture given thats where we're most exposed? I reckon he'd be a better alternative than Harte given form and circumstance although I do acknowledge that Geary(unless I'm mistaken) doesn't possess that 'deadly' set piece ability that good ol' Hartey has...

[youngirish]

Ah the black hole that is the Irish left back position. I don't rate Geary TBH but I take your point that we're not exactly blessed with an assortment of riches in that department. My main worry is that with all the potential talent on the horizon in strikers, central midfielders, wingers, right backs and goalies we've nothing coming through in central defence (unless St Ledger turns out to be a tactical masterstroke on Stan's part) that looks top class and absolutely nothing at all at left back..

[Donegalcelt]

Just saw his goal on Sky Sports news for Blackpool v Cheltenham last night - right foot and all

BBC "Hoolahan secured victory in the 80th minute when he dodged and weaved in the box before unleashing a powerful drive. "

[lim abroad]

heard it was a cracker alright,anyone got a link?

[theworm2345]

Mark Kinsella is going to retire from playing and join the Charlton backroom staff
http://premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=setSelectedId&nextPage=enNewsLatest&id=1550415&type=com.fapl.website.news.NewsItem&categoryCode=NewsLatestFAPremierLeagueNews
Good for him, he was a good player for Ireland :D

[theworm2345]

heard it was a cracker alright,anyone got a link?
I may be able to get it later, but Glenn Whelan's goal was really nice from the weekend, I can upload it if someone wants

[OwlsFan]

I may be able to get it later, but Glenn Whelan's goal was really nice from the weekend, I can upload it if someone wants

Here's Whelan's goal and you might as well enjoy the last two Wednesday goals as well - beauts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHR6TW8WxXU

[republicofwhite]

Poor old Conrad Logan Didn't stand a chance with any of those...

[John83]

Liam Lawrence in trouble (http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=15575112&p=y5575y66&t=soccer)

[The Legend]

at least he has some backup career options if his football career is ruined...

[Closed Account]

Stephen Ireland came on at half time for Manchester City.
He's just after assisting Trabelsi. Beat 3 men down the right wing and cut it back to Hatem, who with a bit of work to do, scored off the crossbar.

[theworm2345]

Daryl Murphy just scored again, Luton thinks it was a handball
his partner upfront, David Connolly, just scored as well :D
Elliott is playing on the right, Connolly just laid the ball off to Liam Miller, but Dean Kiely made a great save I guess

[eirebhoy]

Here's the City goal with Ireland involved:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrK8c4Tnsh4

[drummerboy]

Alan McCormack scored for Southend
Richie Foran for Motherwell
Noel Hunt scored 2 for Dundee United

[co. down green]

Stephen Gleeson, u19 international scored for Stockport (on loan from Wolves)

[dr_peepee]

Andy Keogh lobbed he keeper from about 30 yards...