2024 FAI Cup

[Burnsie]

Wonder when the appeal is being heard.
Surprised Dan Mc doesnt have it


from his weekly newsletter released in the past half hour:

"Rovers remain confident of success in their FAI Cup protest. Bohs are confident too. Clarity is needed early this week"

[ger121]

Wonder when the appeal is being heard.
Surprised Dan Mc doesnt have it

Have it? He already knows the decision! Fran and Irene don’t do accountability. There’s always next year I guess.

[outspoken]

Should a more important question be what consequences will the FAI face for this f"ck up entirely of their own making?

Had it been Bohs fault they'd be dumped out the cup and probably fined. Surely the FAI should be looking at how this happened and who is responsible.

[sbgawa]

The responsibility is on Bohs to make sure players are eligible not the FAI.
If the FAI ****ed up by telling Bohs he could play so be it but the consequences for them will be zero as the responsibilty is with the club.
Bohs asking the FAI for clearence and been given it is meaningless it id the international FIFA laws that count.

Will be interesting to see how the FAI try to get out of this

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

The responsibility is on Bohs to make sure players are eligible not the FAI.
If the FAI ****ed up by telling Bohs he could play so be it but the consequences for them will be zero as the responsibilty is with the club.
Bohs asking the FAI for clearence and been given it is meaningless it id the international FIFA laws that count.

Will be interesting to see how the FAI try to get out of this

Is there precedent on a club asking that national body for a ruling and then being punished because the national body got it wrong?

[Another Bohemia]

The responsibility is on Bohs to make sure players are eligible not the FAI.
If the FAI ****ed up by telling Bohs he could play so be it but the consequences for them will be zero as the responsibilty is with the club.
Bohs asking the FAI for clearence and been given it is meaningless it id the international FIFA laws that count.

Will be interesting to see how the FAI try to get out of this

You're right. Bohs should have consulted a few mediums, gotten a tarot card reading and read some tea leaves. Speaking to the organizing body of the competition was a really weird way to verify a players eligibility and there's no way that organizing body's decision should have been trusted.

[Nesta99]

It would still be interesting to know how it was flagged up considering the Bohs were told the player was clear to play. Is there a researcher that digs in to these things on the off chance or were Rovers tipped off about the possibility of an issue? As Ive alluded too it wouldnt be the fist time that an FAI official tried to look for a loophole trying to overturn a result. Its messy, mistakes happen and maybe clubs and assocation should just move switly on with the FAI bucking themselves up. Rules may tie hands but awarding a 3-0 win to Rovers would be harsh so fair play would be a replay imo considering Bohs did what was needed of them, checked if there was an issue and the competition organisers said no.

[sbgawa]

You're right. Bohs should have consulted a few mediums, gotten a tarot card reading and read some tea leaves. Speaking to the organizing body of the competition was a really weird way to verify a players eligibility and there's no way that organizing body's decision should have been trusted.

The Fifa rules are very clear and its the responsibility of the club to ensure player eligibllity by reading said international rules.
np mediums needed just a competant secretary.
asking the FAI is abdicating responsibility and if the fai get it wrong then its on bohs.

still think the fai will try to push it through but the word seems to be they know theyve ****ed up

[cláirseach]

The FIFA rules are indeed very clear but they don't clarify whether the governing body receiving the player's registration choose to apply the suspension in cup or league competition.

[sbgawa]

First competitive game where nonequivelent cup. Pretty clear to me.
Like i said though expect the Fai to try to weasel out somehow.

They are hardly going to change their culture of lie and deny overnight

[cláirseach]

The sanction was issued by the organising body of that competition, the league, rather than the national federation (FA Cup, FAI Cup). Ireland doesn't have an equivalent (it has a regonal cup competition, but not a League organised cup competition).

In short:


First competitive game where nonequivelent cup.

There isn't one!

[sbgawa]

Exactly we don't have an equivalent cup so next competitive fixture imo
Anyway whatever about if u or I are right the appeal decision will be out soon enough I guess.

If sources in the FAI are telling dan mcdonnell that they may have screwed up its obviously not either simple or cut and dried. Odds are still the FAI will as usual bend the rules to avoid admitting they've screwed up. Look at all the red card appeals this year ......
It's a cultural thing with them, don't come out and be honest about mistakes pile on with more.

[legendz]

If the onus is on the club, looks like an automatic 3-0 loss. Harsh considering the player served the suspension in the next game. The FAI incompetence laid bare. Will they ever learn?

[sbgawa]

Not sure it's a done deal yet tbh. Even if they are wrong it's still questionable of they will front up. Be glad to hear the outcome it's getting boring at this stage. Can't understand why such a long delay. The kangaroo courts for appealing sending off is done within a few days

[Nesta99]

Its likely they are trying to get the 2 clubs to agree to something that saves face. If both clubs stick to their guns, rightly so, the delay is probably due to head scratching in Abbotstown. They are probably looking to UEFA/FIFA and for any precedence in other wold leagues to justify their fudge.

[cláirseach]

Exactly we don't have an equivalent cup so next competitive fixture imo
Anyway whatever about if u or I are right the appeal decision will be out soon enough I guess.

If sources in the FAI are telling dan mcdonnell that they may have screwed up its obviously not either simple or cut and dried.

Exactly, it isn't. The language used in your earlier posts don't match this at all.

[sbgawa]

Like i said lets see what the outcome is.
Bohs should be safe based on FAI precedent for cover ups if one is needed

[Calcio Jack]

Like i said lets see what the outcome is.
Bohs should be safe based on FAI precedent for cover ups if one is needed

I saw three tramps sitting on a grassy knoll earlier having a lovely discussion….

[sbgawa]

Fake news the counter snipers would have taken out the tramps on that Knoll. Lets make loi great again.

[David BOHie]

It would still be interesting to know how it was flagged up considering the Bohs were told the player was clear to play. Is there a researcher that digs in to these things on the off chance or were Rovers tipped off about the possibility of an issue? As Ive alluded too it wouldnt be the fist time that an FAI official tried to look for a loophole trying to overturn a result. Its messy, mistakes happen and maybe clubs and assocation should just move switly on with the FAI bucking themselves up. Rules may tie hands but awarding a 3-0 win to Rovers would be harsh so fair play would be a replay imo considering Bohs did what was needed of them, checked if there was an issue and the competition organisers said no.

If it was decided there was to be a replay then it's only fair Bohs replay Dundalk in the league with Devoy available this time.

[Cosmo]

Like i said lets see what the outcome is.
Bohs should be safe based on FAI precedent for cover ups if one is needed

Drogheda has similar case in 2004 with Glenn Lacey. If I remember correctly (it was 20 years ago so a bit vague), FAI sent out list of suspensions to clubs that week. Lacey wasn’t on it. Drogheda played him. The match he played in was over turned with the other team getting the 3 nil win

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/louth/drogheda-news/no-tears-over-uniteds-exit-from-cup/27106752.html

[dundalkfc10]

If it was decided there was to be a replay then it's only fair Bohs replay Dundalk in the league with Devoy available this time.

Ah man the last thing we need is another game.

Any goalkeepers who can save shots though?

[legendz]

I have sympathy for Bohs. They checked with the FAI. The FAI incorrectly gave them the green light. If the player shouldn't have played, it seems the game will have to be awarded to Shamrock Rovers on a 3-0 scoreline.
Kerry need to be able to plan accordingly in their pursuit of a David versus Goliath improbable giant killing.

[sbgawa]

Don't bother feeling sorry for bohs as
A) it's their responsibility
B) the FAI will give as much thought to Rivers appeal as they will to sligos complaint about Hennessy

[Dermobohs]

From what I’m hearing we’re out.

[ger121]

From what I’m hearing we’re out.

Thank god we don’t have to worry about getting to another final and then losing it.

[listowelceltic]

Kerry tickets v Bohs on sale today to season ticket holders.

[sbgawa]

When they start selling away tickets we will know how the appeal is going ;)
Actually surprising the cute Kerrymen havent already sold them to the Bohs fans and then sell them to Rovers if Rovers win the appeal ;)

[Nesta99]

That would be selling the same thing twice which would never happn in LoI!

Some GLITW things are too great to ever let drop....

[WoodquayBoy]

Don't bother feeling sorry for bohs as
A) it's their responsibility
B) the FAI will give as much thought to Rivers appeal as they will to sligos complaint about Hennessy
I understand the rivalry hence the hatred and pettiness but I really think on this one, Bohs are being shafted. It was their responsibility so they checked with the one agency which should have provided the correct information - it looks like they got wrong information. Does every club that asks the FAI for guidance/rulings automatically cross-check with another agency to see if the info provided is correct? The longer this strings out shows who the real blame lies with. Again.

[ger121]

I understand the rivalry hence the hatred and pettiness but I really think on this one, Bohs are being shafted. It was their responsibility so they checked with the one agency which should have provided the correct information - it looks like they got wrong information. Does every club that asks the FAI for guidance/rulings automatically cross-check with another agency to see if the info provided is correct? The longer this strings out shows who the real blame lies with. Again.

Nail on the head here.

[RealJohn91]

Tickets on sale for Bohs fans tomorrow night. I'm guessing that's the end of the matter now.

[listowelceltic]

How many tickets are Bohs getting?

[Kingswood Rover]

Tickets on sale for Bohs fans tomorrow night. I'm guessing that's the end of the matter now.
Something's going on for the decision to not to be communicated by now.

[RealJohn91]

How many tickets are Bohs getting?
According to the email 290

[Knocklyonhoop]

According to the email 290

does that come out of Kerry’s allocation or Rovers’?

[culloty82]

If it was based purely on away entitlements, they'd only get 120 tickets.

[Mr_Parker]

Even if Rovers lost the case tonight, could Kerry really put tickets on sale immediately? Surely time needs to be allowed for Rovers to consider taking their case to arbitration? Normally clubs have 4 days to consider, unless Rovers have given an in taking not to do so.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Sure they can always refund people

[culloty82]

Even if Rovers lost the case tonight, could Kerry really put tickets on sale immediately? Surely time needs to be allowed for Rovers to consider taking their case to arbitration? Normally clubs have 4 days to consider, unless Rovers have given an in taking not to do so.

Even if Rovers won the case, the home tickets would still be valid for that tie, the only circumstances where a refund would be necessary would be if a replay was ordered.

[Another Bohemia]

Sure they can always refund people

Id imagine the T's & C's when you purchase the ticket have conditions about being subject to change and being void/refunded if the match is cancelled. So should anything arise now that would change the participants of the game the tickets will be refunded automatically. We should have heard something at this stage though and with Bohs having had to make a presentation as part of the hearing they would have been involved throughout so I think it looks like Rovers appeal has been thrown out or some other agreement reached.

[Dermobohs]

Or we hold on to our tickets and turn up on the day…?

[Another Bohemia]

Or we hold on to our tickets and turn up on the day…?

Id imagine the tickets would be cancelled though. So you might as well show up with your cup final ticket from last year in that case.

[Dermobohs]

Don’t mention finals…

[RealJohn91]

Bohs got the go ahead to play the Kerry game. Rovers have the right to appeal this decision too though

[ger121]

Bohs got the go ahead to play the Kerry game. Rovers have the right to appeal this decision too though

Want to be a quick appeals process to UEFA or whoever as the game is Sunday week.

[culloty82]

Unsurprisingly, has already sold out.

[nr637]

Unsurprisingly, has already sold out.

Any news if Kerry FC have increased the capacity from 1,200 to nearer 2,000 for their FAI Cup game!

[2 Year Contract]

Any news if Kerry FC have increased the capacity from 1,200 to nearer 2,000 for their FAI Cup game!

Was there talk of that? I say this as someone who’s never been in the ground, but would there really be scope to increase the ground capacity by 66%? Seems a big figure

[nr637]

Was there talk of that? I say this as someone who’s never been in the ground, but would there really be scope to increase the ground capacity by 66%? Seems a big figure

What about the grass bank area beyond the seated stand, is that suitable for extra fans to view!