2022 FAI Cup

[ger121]

Bound to be some good matches drawn out of the hat for the quarters.

[legendz]

Bound to be some good matches drawn out of the hat for the quarters."The draw will be broadcast live on @GameOn2FM from 6:10pm on Tuesday and on FAI TV."

Bohemians
Derry City
Dundalk
Shamrock Rovers
Shelbourne
Treaty United
UCD
Waterford

Treaty, UCD and Waterford will have to avoid the other five if they are to progress. With at least two of the other five guaranteed to meet, there should be at least one good draw for neutrals.

[sbgawa]

Our head office in abbotstown have leaked it already.
Dundalk v bohs
Shels v derry
Shamrock rovers v treaty
Ucd v waterford.

Games to be played when it suits Rovers
:D

[sbgawa]

Just in case my source let's me.down. I'll settle for any home draw.

[Nesta99]

Be some laugh if that ends up the lineup sbgawa!

Home draw v Treaty thanks very much football gods! Then home draw. Wouldnt want to be away to Waterford with the extra pep in their step. UCD wont be overawed by us going on league games, Rovers would be a bad draw full stop, and the rest away would be tough when the league is done and Europe is up in the air so a lot could be on a cup run. Anyone left standing in the semis will have their heads turned! Pats fans could be left hoping for another O'Donnell led cup win yet....

[legendz]

Be some laugh if that ends up the lineup sbgawa!

Wouldnt want to be away to Waterford with the extra pep in their step.

Pats fans could be left hoping for another O'Donnell led cup win yet....Be some laugh if Waterford denied Pat's that final euro spot after the shenanigans 3 years ago.

[placid casual]

Dundalk at home to Rovers
Derry at home to bohs
Shels at home to Treaty
UCD at home to Waterford

[outspoken]

Rovers far from at their best, definitely looked sluggish from all the games of late. However as said above, they missed chances to make it more comfortable..

Drogheda were brilliant but probably didn't work Pohls enough.

[The Bowler]

41-0 to LOI clubs in the 9 games against their non league opponents in the cup this season,huge gap in quality…. Really poor performances from the non league clubs overall, the exception being Lucan who despite playing a decent chunk of the 2nd half with 10 men, still managed to make Bohs work hard for it.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I wouldn't say Maynooth were that poor, relative to Treaty. The opener stung them because it came a bit against the run of play, and if they had managed to score early in the first or the second as they were threatening to it would have been a very different result. They did really well packing their midfield to force Treaty to put it over the top, and aside from the goal we had only one distant shot in the first half. The second goal killed the game and the third came after Maynooth had pretty much given up, so I wouldn't say the final score signifies total Treaty dominance.

[The Bowler]

I wouldn't say Maynooth were that poor, relative to Treaty. The opener stung them because it came a bit against the run of play, and if they had managed to score early in the first or the second as they were threatening to it would have been a very different result. They did really well packing their midfield to force Treaty to put it over the top, and aside from the goal we had only one distant shot in the first half. The second goal killed the game and the third came after Maynooth had pretty much given up, so I wouldn't say the final score signifies total Treaty dominance. That's fair actually, I did watch some of that game, missed most of the first half, but the commentators were saying that Maynooth had the better of the exchanges in the 1st half. Now Treaty are no world beaters, but it's likely that Lucan and Maynooth wouldn't be out of their depth in the bottom half of 1st Division, will be interesting to see if either or both have aspirations to the proposed 3rd tier in LOI

[pineapple stu]

Treaty v UCD
Shels v Bohs
Waterford v Dundalk
Derry v Rovers

Interesting draw. Waterford could well upset Dundalk at the RSC. Treaty and UCD will obviously be quite happy. Derry v Rovers is a juicy tie; just hope Rovers aren't too tired for it

[brendy_éire]

Interesting draw. Waterford could well upset Dundalk at the RSC. Treaty and UCD will obviously be quite happy. Derry v Rovers is a juicy tie; just hope Rovers aren't too tired for it

Not a great draw, but at least we're at home. Everyone else will be happy with it, mind.
Presume the match will be on the Sunday, as Rovers are away to Gent on the Thursday.

Treaty-UCD sounds interesting too.

[Calcio Jack]

Treaty v UCD
Shels v Bohs
Waterford v Dundalk
Derry v Rovers

Interesting draw. Waterford could well upset Dundalk at the RSC. Treaty and UCD will obviously be quite happy. Derry v Rovers is a juicy tie; just hope Rovers aren't too tired for it

We’ll at least we’re at home next Thursday … so no travel/heat issues…. Unless of course Derry in their usual gracious manner try and insist we play on Friday 😜

Ps…. Just saw on RTE sport they’ve referred to Declan Devine rather than Higgins…. What next ? Perhaps they’ll make a reference to Londonderry ( albeit that at least in some quarters would be accurate)

[legendz]

Interesting draw alright. From Treaty's perspective it is a great opportunity, as it is for UCD. Shels v Bohs is an interesting one, with both eyeing the cup for a European path. Waterford are capable of causing an upset. If Derry are to knock Shamrock Rovers out of the cup, being at home is a huge advantage. Rovers are away to Gent on the Thursday before the quarter-finals.
UCD, Dundalk and Rovers are rightly favourites. I'd like to see Treaty, Bohs, Waterford and Derry to make the semi-finals.

[Nesta99]

Treaty v UCD
Shels v Bohs
Waterford v Dundalk
Derry v Rovers

Interesting draw. Waterford could well upset Dundalk at the RSC. Treaty and UCD will obviously be quite happy. Derry v Rovers is a juicy tie; just hope Rovers aren't too tired for it

This feels like a given with the ropey defensive moments of the last 3 or 4 games, 1 already against a 1st Division side, own goal needed to win v a team thats just sacked a manager. One less (current) top 3 cup winner for sure so the squeeze for Europe continues.

[ontheotherhand]

Another brutal draw. Gona have to do this the hard way if the treble dream is to come true.

[brendy_éire]

Another brutal draw. Gona have to do this the hard way if the treble dream is to come true.

What treble?

[sbgawa]

What treble?

League , Cup and Conference league winners obviously.

Hopefully its UCD , Waterford, Shels and Rovers in the semi's
Be nice to have the 100% support of Derry. Dundalk and Pats for one of the top 4 to win the cup :) and make sure 4th qualifies for Europe.
Always assuming one of them doesn't pip us for the league but i guess we will know that by then

[brendy_éire]

League , Cup and Conference league winners obviously.

Ha, shoot for the stars!


Be nice to have the 100% support of Derry. Dundalk and Pats for one of the top 4 to win the cup :) and make sure 4th qualifies for Europe.

Absolutely would. If we're out, I just hope it's a Rovers-Dundalk final. Can sit and enjoy it.
Last year's final was too tense watching it as a Derry fan. Great buzz when Pat's won, mind.

[placid casual]

If Rovers get knocked out, would love to see one of shels, waterford or UCD win it.
It would be most enjoyable to watch the desperate scramble for 3rd place.

[legendz]

If Rovers get knocked out, would love to see one of shels, waterford or UCD win it.
It would be most enjoyable to watch the desperate scramble for 3rd place.
Last year's cup final had a bumper crowd. Half that crowd if UCD are in the final?

[Knocklyonhoop]

Worst draw possible! Assuming Rovers don’t win it, would be good to,see Waterford take it. Shels and Bohs eying a great opp if Waterford can see off a Dundalk side poor away from home

[The Bowler]

The football God's shine once again on Mylers men. Treaty are a crock of ****e, so the semis are there for the taking

[Nesta99]

If Rovers get knocked out, would love to see one of shels, waterford or UCD win it.
It would be most enjoyable to watch the desperate scramble for 3rd place.

Well a Rovers fan would know...(damn you Cork and Mad Bill).

[EatYerGreens]

Last year's cup final had a bumper crowd. Half that crowd if UCD are in the final?

You think a Cup Final with UCD in it would attract over 18,000 ?! Maybe more like a quarter of the 2021 gate, at best.

[legendz]

You think a Cup Final with UCD in it would attract over 18,000 ?! Maybe more like a quarter of the 2021 gate, at best. Maybe. Depends on the eagerness of their opponent's fair weather supporters.
If Treaty were to win the cup against all the odds, Pat's would again benefit from a club being less than 3 years in existence.

[ToberonaTornado]

Dundalk are pretty weak looking right now but i reckon(and hope) that come that tie against Waterford in mid September we'll be back with all guns blazing and all players on board without injury or suspension.(ie Benson,Hoban,Leahey,Mountney etc...)

[legendz]

Dundalk are pretty weak looking right now but i reckon(and hope) that come that tie against Waterford in mid September we'll be back with all guns blazing and all players on board without injury or suspension.(ie Benson,Hoban,Leahey,Mountney etc...)
The Dundalk manager is chasing back-to-back cup wins. Can help his previous club qualify for Europe in the process.

[sbgawa]

Be some laugh if Waterford denied Pat's that final euro spot after the shenanigans 3 years ago.


This was a great shout by you the other day which i hadn't thought of.
Treaty effectively become another team that the top 4 want to win the cup.

So 4th place gets Europe if Shamrock Rovers, Derry Dundalk or Treaty win the cup.

[legendz]

This was a great shout by you the other day which i hadn't thought of.
Treaty effectively become another team that the top 4 want to win the cup.

So 4th place gets Europe if Shamrock Rovers, Derry Dundalk or Treaty win the cup.
Yeah, Pat's will want Dundalk, Treaty, Rovers and Shels to win. Ideally for Pat's, it will be Rovers v Shels in the semi-finals.

[oriel]

What treble?

Still going on about this, you do realise a treble did exist before 1989, and other clubs actually won it, Rovers won plenty of these plus the Top 4 and the Shield were massive trophies pre 1970's.

Actually how about a mini treble in 2019 for Dundalk, League, League cup and the Unite the 'Nation' (Union) as the PA guy called out for the craic as it v Linfield ;)

[Martinho II]

Remind me again about 3 years ago about Waterford and St Pats as brain isnt as sharp as its used to be!

[oriel]

Treaty v UCD
Shels v Bohs
Waterford v Dundalk
Derry v Rovers

Interesting draw. Waterford could well upset Dundalk at the RSC. Treaty and UCD will obviously be quite happy. Derry v Rovers is a juicy tie; just hope Rovers aren't too tired for it

They sure could, but I think as mentioned elsewhere on this thread we will have sufficient 'bodies' back then (love that word which has crept into football lingo last 10 years - always reminds me of a horror movie), then again last 2 league defeats were horror shows. Also I think replays are back for the QF, so gives an interesting angle.

I'd go for Derry* (game will prob be on a sunday), Dundalk (after replay), I have a feeling UCD will win, but I just can't split Shels v Bohs, abs no way I can call it.

*could also well be another replay to add to Rovers fixture pile up.

Not sure I agree with PP having DFC outright favs for the cup, its really quite open even at this stage.

[DCSIL]

Booked a cheap flight to Derry today so waiting on when the Rovers game will be played.

Dundalk Fans, when did Oriel Park get renamed Casey's Field? Don't remember seeing it on Social Media.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Booked a cheap flight to Derry today so waiting on when the Rovers game will be played.

Dundalk Fans, when did Oriel Park get renamed Casey's Field? Don't remember seeing it on Social Media.

After Des Casey passed away recently. Only for the rest of the season.

[ToberonaTornado]

https://www.dundalkfc.com/oriel-park-to-be-renamed-caseys-field/
https://twitter.com/DundalkFC/status/1562509206011658241

[The Bowler]

We have probably reached the point now in the FAI Cup where refs get that wink from upstairs that it's not really an option to let UCD progress to next stage. Imagine we made the semi finals, that's one game away from the flagship game of the year being ruined by only having one set of fans in attendance. Expect some dodgy refereeing in the qf, and God forbid we win that, expect some downright skulduggery in a semi final. I have to be pragmatic here to avoid getting carried away with the prospect of what might be

[EatYerGreens]

We have probably reached the point now in the FAI Cup where refs get that wink from upstairs that it's not really an option to let UCD progress to next stage. Imagine we made the semi finals, that's one game away from the flagship game of the year being ruined by only having one set of fans in attendance. Expect some dodgy refereeing in the qf, and God forbid we win that, expect some downright skulduggery in a semi final. I have to be pragmatic here to avoid getting carried away with the prospect of what might be

I'd say that UCD are more than capable of ensuring on their own that they don't make it to the Cup Final this year :D They've been very lucky so far with the draws. As soon as they play another Premier Division team it'll be all over for them (if not before)

[The Bowler]

I'd say that UCD are more than capable of ensuring on their own that they don't make it to the Cup Final this year :D They've been very lucky so far with the draws. As soon as they play another Premier Division team it'll be all over for them (if not before) No argument from me there. The Galway keeper dropping the ball to gift us the win a case in point. Thing is, Treaty are pretty awful, so it might be the semis before we get our spanking

[colonelwest]

I know UCD have never gotten much of any support from the actual college but if they did make the final it'd be a great shout if the college/ FAI took the hit and papered 10k free tickets to the students in UCD. If there's one thing college kids love it's a freebie and a day on the p*ss!

[The Bowler]

One of the greatest indictments of the dysfunctional regime at UCD is that they have no student fan base. They have no interest in marketing and promo, no interest in filling the place with their own fans, which is badly needed when they are in the 1st Division. They do an utterly poxy job at social media, last night being the perfect example, no team sheet posted pre match, so waiting for LOITV 2 minutes before the ko to find out who is playing. Its simply a personal hobby for a bunch of old geezers and a small number of staff who have controlled UCD AFC for years now, who like to win the Collingwood Cup, and appear answerable to nobody. Even Myler is in on it now, the background to his original appointment being subject of much chatter in the stands at the time. Nice cosy set up for all. Must try harder.

[Martinho II]

The thing is no offence to the UCD lads ere a few I know personally but why did they even get into the LOI? They offer absolutely nothing to the league what so ever. They are the closest ground to RTE and they have no intrerest themselves. Answers on a self addressed envelope please!

[The Bowler]

The thing is no offence to the UCD lads ere a few I know personally but why did they even get into the LOI? They offer absolutely nothing to the league what so ever. They are the closest ground to RTE and they have no intrerest themselves. Answers on a self addressed envelope please! I think they've every right to be in LOI, plenty of begrudgers who simply slag them off for being different and not always nearly bankrupt (jealousy), the model is perfect for Irish football, especially 1st Div. As to why they got into LOI, its a perfect way to attract high quality young players who want to get a decent education at the same time as playing top level ball. At least it was, but I think they've shot themselves in the foot on that this last couple of seasons, so many of the players aren't UCD students these days, and other clubs have wised up by offering to pay college/leaving cert grind school fees and uni fees for some of the players they might have originally lost to UCD u17s U19s. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see UCD pulling back from LOI at some stage, they seem disinterested compared to previous years, and they have zero recruitment/scouting policy outside of Myler sucking up to Rovers and signing their underage castoffs. With smart commercially minded people in charge their, they could have a brilliant small stadium developed, a full house every week. They have a huge catchment area not catering for LOI in any way.

[pineapple stu]

The thing is no offence to the UCD lads ere a few I know personally but why did they even get into the LOI? They offer absolutely nothing to the league what so ever. They are the closest ground to RTE and they have no intrerest themselves. Answers on a self addressed envelope please!
We got into the LoI the same way ye got in - we asked and there was no-one else interested really.

There's a series of interviews in the match programme this season with former players, and it's interesting that every one of them (the likes of Joe Hanrahan, Dave Tilson, Conan Byrne, Ciarán Kavanagh and others) say that it was great to be able to be dropped into first-team senior football at 17 with no real pressure on you. They would be biased in a UCD programme of course, but still I think it's a point with a lot of merit when you consider how many players have started their careers at the club in the last 43 years.

[The Bowler]

We got into the LoI the same way ye got in - we asked and there was no-one else interested really.

There's a series of interviews in the match programme this season with former players, and it's interesting that every one of them (the likes of Joe Hanrahan, Dave Tilson, Conan Byrne, Ciarán Kavanagh and others) say that it was great to be able to be dropped into first-team senior football at 17 with no real pressure on you. They would be biased in a UCD programme of course, but still I think it's a point with a lot of merit when you consider how many players have started their careers at the club in the last 43 years. No doubt Stu of the historical performance of UCD as the most prolific club for developing young talent, but I sense that is changing rapidly, with almost every LOI club now giving 1st team opportunities to their best youngsters (as a means to developing them and selling them on to fund club ops), the whole profile of the league has changed. Helped along by Brexit and the emergence of the academy structures in LOI of course. Think UCD glory years as best in class for talent development are behind them. They are completely asleep at the wheel anyway, every organisation has to develop and evolve, but that requires ambition to change, and you know more than anyone that those in charge at UCD lack vision and ambition in equal measure. Its just about sustaining the status quo and winning the Collingwood Cup, and whatever happens in LOI happens. That is such a lost opportunity. It really could be something very good.

[pineapple stu]

I sense that is changing rapidly, with almost every LOI club now giving 1st team opportunities to their best youngsters (as a means to developing them and selling them on to fund club ops)
Yeah, but remember they cite the lack of pressure and the ability to make mistakes and learn that you don't have at other clubs too. I think it was Dave Tilson who said he noticed that difference immediately when he moved to Bohs, and Conan Byrne who said he was quite happy to be announced as a Pat's signing along with someone higher profile

[nigel-harps1954]

To be fair, UCD add as much to the league as any Longford, Wexford or any other smaller club.

They've produced some of the top players to have played in the league at any given time and have had multiple league and cup winners on their books at one point.

The fact they've a very small fanbase is a disappointment for the league, but at least they do things the right way most of the time.

[Shinkicker]

To be fair, UCD add as much to the league as any Longford, Wexford or any other smaller club.

They've produced some of the top players to have played in the league at any given time and have had multiple league and cup winners on their books at one point.

The fact they've a very small fanbase is a disappointment for the league, but at least they do things the right way most of the time.
I totally agree with you on this. They won the right to play in the top league through football and football alone. There are no rules regarding supporters, marketing and publicity as long as its legal.

[legendz]

I totally agree with you on this. They won the right to play in the top league through football and football alone. There are no rules regarding supporters, marketing and publicity as long as its legal.
It's up to the likes of Cork, Galway, Waterford and Treaty to keep UCD out of the Premier. If these clubs are performing below par with their urban advantages, UCD are one club that will have the consistency to take advantage. Some in LoI circles might have expected the 10 team Premier to have kept UCD out.