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EatYerGreens
11/11/2022, 11:23 PM
That's great going. 50 50 split so far? I heard 15k for Derry so I assume it's close to that.
If Derry have sold 15k out of 30k tickets then that's more than a 50-50 weighting - as there will be a few thousand neutrals at it too.
Hugely impressive if it is over 30,000 now. It seems the FAI's price hike hasn't deterred many people after all.
Fantastic scenes in Derry tonight pre cup final, I am sure you will all see on social media. Really is a buzz around the place and speculation we aren’t far off 20,000 which I expect is slightly exaggerated but I have no doubt our ticket sales are fantastic and the best post treble season.
I wonder what a Derry- Rovers final either would have hit this season or may hit in the next few years - will be best possible chance of an aviva sell out you’d expect.
I`m looking forward to the final myself, a stress-free day now that we don't need to be hoping for Derry to win, and can enjoy the roast beef with a nice glass of red! Memories of our traditional pre-match cup final dinners in Jurys in 2015-16-17-18 +19, missed out in 2020 (Covid).
Good luck to both teams, it's a special day for the fans, nice family occasion too, we always took the kids, I`m going for a 2-1 win for Derry, which will obviously be music for Pats ears, but Shels won't make it easy for Derry.
Hopefully it will be a good game.
Dermobohs
12/11/2022, 9:09 PM
To both sets of fans, enjoy the day , big deal and biggest day in the calendar, hope it’s a good game of ball, from what I’ve seen of both v us it’ll be a cracker. Have a feeling there will be cards and defo a red ( mr Boyd?) goals songs laughs and please don’t let us be talkin about the attention seekin referee after it .
oriel
12/11/2022, 10:17 PM
Fantastic scenes in Derry tonight pre cup final, I am sure you will all see on social media. Really is a buzz around the place and speculation we aren’t far off 20,000 which I expect is slightly exaggerated but I have no doubt our ticket sales are fantastic and the best post treble season.
I wonder what a Derry- Rovers final either would have hit this season or may hit in the next few years - will be best possible chance of an aviva sell out you’d expect.
I wouldn't think so, Rovers v Bohs would probably be the best chance of a highest ever attendance at a modern FAI Cup Final, but that said no way would it sell 50k.
Bohs v Pats last year was the record at the Aviva at 37k, before that it was Rovers v Sligo with 36k in 2010, then the Dundalk v Cork 4 in a row finals with an avg of 26k. Would Derry v Rovers draw more than 2019 final of Rovers v Dundalk (33k), not sure.
Rovers v Bohs in 1945 still the record I think at 41k, and in 1985 lowest I could find with 7k at Rovers v Galway.
Buller
13/11/2022, 11:09 AM
Got my ticket! Last bit of live football for me for the year :D The attendances since Aviva opened have been amazing. Think that Rovers v Galway match in '85 was a replay? or even a 2nd replay? 7k is grim enough though - glad they did away with them.
Atmosphere at last years with 37k was incredible, felt full for it. Cup final is really turning back into the spectacle it should be.
TonyD
13/11/2022, 11:45 AM
Got my ticket! Last bit of live football for me for the year :D The attendances since Aviva opened have been amazing. Think that Rovers v Galway match in '85 was a replay? or even a 2nd replay? 7k is grim enough though - glad they did away with them.
Atmosphere at last years with 37k was incredible, felt full for it. Cup final is really turning back into the spectacle it should be.
Last year certainly was incredible. Really felt like a proper big occasion. Never thought I’d see the day with that sort of attendance at a Pats match. The increase in crowds since the pandemic has been one of the best news stories I can remember about the league. Long may it continue.
Hoping for a Derry win, obviously. Just spotted that on RTE 2 before the match they are showing a documentary made in 1975 about Shels, originally prodcast on the run up to that years cup final. Should be worth a watch.
oriel
13/11/2022, 12:08 PM
Got my ticket! Last bit of live football for me for the year :D The attendances since Aviva opened have been amazing. Think that Rovers v Galway match in '85 was a replay? or even a 2nd replay? 7k is grim enough though - glad they did away with them.
Atmosphere at last years with 37k was incredible, felt full for it. Cup final is really turning back into the spectacle it should be.
1983–84 UCD 0 – 0 / 2 – 1 (R) Shamrock Rovers Dalymount Park / Tolka Park 8,000 / 6,500
1984–85 Shamrock Rovers 1 – 0 Galway United Dalymount Park 7,000
1985–86 Shamrock Rovers 2 – 0 Waterford United Dalymount Park 11,500
1986–87 Shamrock Rovers 3 – 0 Dundalk Dalymount Park 8,569
1987–88 Dundalk 1 – 0 Derry City Dalymount Park 21,000
1988–89 Derry City 0 – 0 / 1 – 0 (R) Cork City Dalymount Park / Dalymount Park 20,000 / 12,000
No the Galway game wasn't a replay, you're prob thinking of the UCD one, above is the list of the last 6 finals played in Dalymount before the switch to Lansdowne, 3 more moved back to Dalymount in the 90's for some reason, then Tolka early 00's, then even RDS and one in Tallaght before perm move to Aviva in 2010.
The mid 80's crowds were just brutal, a lot league games in the 10's would have beaten those. Derry in 88 + 89 put a bit of respectability back to it.
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 1:20 PM
Pre match crowd troubles again this year. Not sure who the aggressors were today but stuff like this and the Bohs fans carry on pre match last year will surely prevent a sell out ever happening at the cup final in the future if it continues every year. Once a reputation for this crap is obtained it’s very hard to get rid of and will put off potential neutrals from heading in to the match no doubt
https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648?s=46&t=PrxT095GZraduOG7oORzAQ
joey B
13/11/2022, 1:30 PM
Apparently the Guard’s had a big part to play in it,walked the Shels fans down past the Derry fans,not making excuses but apparently it could have been avoided….
WeAreRovers
13/11/2022, 1:50 PM
Very poor policing, why are one set of fans escorted past a pub full of opposition fans?
In 2019 Rovers & Dundalk were kept well apart. We were allowed nowhere near the Irishtown end of the ground.
CorribsideSteve
13/11/2022, 2:04 PM
SUPER atmosphere. Looks about 40,000 there.
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 2:05 PM
Not 40k. Few rows cordoned off at the front all around, and the second tier at the Shels end mostly empty. Ditto the two corners in the top tier
Probably has hit 30k though. It's a decent crowd
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 2:20 PM
Great finish, Farrell totally lost under that cross field ball
Kiki Balboa
13/11/2022, 2:21 PM
Said it to some lads around me before the game, and was typing here before the goal.... I think this could be one of the most one sided finals in a long while. Derry match up terribly for Shels, and Connor Kane missing is a huge loss for Shels.
Goal was coming, could be 3 or 4 by the end.
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 2:24 PM
Graydon is giving Shels a roasting so far
joey B
13/11/2022, 2:42 PM
Shels massively out of their depth here….
ontheotherhand
13/11/2022, 2:43 PM
Ruthless by Derry. They aren't breaking a sweat. The Aviva suits them.
Kiki Balboa
13/11/2022, 2:44 PM
Derry look very well set up. Men against boys stuff for the first half. Two wingers are destroying Shels.
Shels have got it all wrong for this game. 3 at the back is destroying them, Boyd has too terrible of a touch for the game etc etc
On the way to repaying the favour to Pats
Said it to some lads around me before the game, and was typing here before the goal.... I think this could be one of the most one sided finals in a long while. Derry match up terribly for Shels, and Connor Kane missing is a huge loss for Shels.
Goal was coming, could be 3 or 4 by the end.
Looking like a good call. Shels really needed to get to half time without conceding the second.
joey B
13/11/2022, 2:59 PM
Cawley and Stuey look sick there!
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 3:03 PM
Cawley and Stuey look sick there!
“Stuart, your heart was telling you Shelbourne would win the before the match, what have they got to do to get back into the game”
”Well they’ve got to get a goal Peter and they can’t concede a third”
Riveting stuff from football expert Angry Stewie Byrne
culloty82
13/11/2022, 3:15 PM
Not 40k. Few rows cordoned off at the front all around, and the second tier at the Shels end mostly empty. Ditto the two corners in the top tier
Probably has hit 30k though. It's a decent crowd
32,412 confirmed by RTE.
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 3:20 PM
1990 the last time a team lost the Cup final by three goals.
No-one's ever lost by a bigger margin
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 3:22 PM
Can’t remember the last time a team put in as bad an FAI Cup final performance as this shels team. I suppose this is what happens when a team gets the luck shels have had to get to the final. The fact that a 6th place Bohs team (who are regarded by their fans as the worst in their clubs modern history) are the best team shels have faced en route to the final is mad
culloty82
13/11/2022, 3:23 PM
Certainly wouldn't put it past Derry to win by 4, Shels appear to have given up already.
joey B
13/11/2022, 3:25 PM
Can’t remember the last time a team put in as bad an FAI Cup final performance as this shels team. I suppose this is what happens when a team gets the luck shels have had to get to the final. The fact that a 6th place Bohs team (who are regarded by their fans as the worst in their clubs modern history) are the best team shels have faced en route to the final is mad
35% of our points this season came against Shels :D
Shinkicker
13/11/2022, 3:26 PM
Pre match crowd troubles again this year. Not sure who the aggressors were today but stuff like this and the Bohs fans carry on pre match last year will surely prevent a sell out ever happening at the cup final in the future if it continues every year. Once a reputation for this crap is obtained it’s very hard to get rid of and will put off potential neutrals from heading in to the match no doubt
https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648?s=46&t=PrxT095GZraduOG7oORzAQ
Was it not a crowd from Wrexham who obtained tickets and caused the trouble last year.
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 3:29 PM
I suppose this is what happens when a team gets the luck shels have had to get to the final. The fact that a 6th place Bohs team (who are regarded by their fans as the worst in their clubs modern history) are the best team shels have faced en route to the final is mad
That's the fun of the Cup I guess. Anyone can fluke a good draw. The Rovers/Dundalk/Cork domination was unhealthy
Derry were always favourites - maybe not to win this easily, but to win anyway - but if both clubs can get the sort of crowd boost that Bohs and Pats seem to have gotten from last year's final, then it'll be worth it
Can’t remember the last time a team put in as bad an FAI Cup final performance as this shels team. I suppose this is what happens when a team gets the luck shels have had to get to the final. The fact that a 6th place Bohs team (who are regarded by their fans as the worst in their clubs modern history) are the best team shels have faced en route to the final is mad
Real missed opportunity for Pats this year I think, with losing to Waterford. Don’t think it would have happened if we hadn’t been in Europe that week.
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 3:35 PM
Shels fans throwing flares into the Derry keeper's six yard box
****wits
Edit - Gardaí wading into the Shels end now
SeanDrog
13/11/2022, 3:39 PM
Shels fans throwing flares into the Derry keeper's six yard box
****wits
Edit - Gardaí wading into the Shels end now
see yellow jackets running in to the end I presume to take someone out. (81mins).
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 3:42 PM
Yeah, they got a guy out alright. He nearly got away from them too - hopped the barrier but the Gardaí held onto him
ontheotherhand
13/11/2022, 3:46 PM
Handiest semi final and final for a cup winner in a long time? Thought Shels might rise to the occasion and keep it tight at least but it looks like two teams from different leagues out there. Derry deserve the cup though after knocking us out in the quarters.
culloty82
13/11/2022, 3:50 PM
And that's the record, from the penalty spot.
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 4:04 PM
Shels fans throwing flares into the Derry keeper's six yard box
****wits
Edit - Gardaí wading into the Shels end now
They've resorted to punching the head off each other now instead. An absolute embarrassment of a club on and off the pitch. Maybe duff was right after all with the ‘little old shelbourne’ phrase he invented
https://twitter.com/tallaght_saint/status/1591833443654139904?s=46&t=aQ5wNPnxQiqNMcUZF0G_gA
pineapple stu
13/11/2022, 4:08 PM
Jaysus. Serious headbutt on the guy getting arrested at the end there.
Looks like it was only a couple of them and others were trying to restrain them for the Gardaí in fairness. But they need to come back for headbutt guy if at all possible.
ToberonaTornado
13/11/2022, 5:28 PM
Got a good chuckle from this - "Never buy the bootleg scarves kids"
Tweet: https://twitter.com/garyonuallain/status/1591823967924670464
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhdLdVQXEAAg-aN?format=jpg&name=small
Unfortunately had to watch the game on RTE, but it couldn't have gone any better.
Comiserations Total Hoofball, a decent Shels poster on here, if your team and some fans let you down, your management didn't... Given us some hard games this year.
Kiki Balboa
13/11/2022, 8:46 PM
I knocked Duff on here after the semi-final, but to be fair he was pretty classy today.
A learning experience for him as well. Conor Kane must have been a big loss for Shels (as Matty Smith), but really, there was a too big difference in terms of talent available on the pitch.
Again, for me, Derry looked like a complete team. A near-perfect game for their midfield 5. It is so hard to imagine that they finished on the same points as Dundalk in the league. The difference in quality in that game to Dundalk's best is huge. There are levels to this game. Rovers found a level come to the end of the season and Derry found a new one today.
I don't mean this as slight against Rovers, who are also an excellent team, but I would fancy that starting 11 over theirs - or at least they are both in a class of their own compared to the rest of the league. I would be dying to see how an in-form Derry team face an in-form Rovers team, esp Duffy and Graydon against Rovers wing-back system.
The league is a lot poorer that we missed the best from Jack Byrne, Burke, Duffy and Fats this year. Here hoping that both are in flying form next (.... and Ryan O'Kane develops into Messi so we are still relevant)
pateen
13/11/2022, 8:52 PM
Very poor policing, why are one set of fans escorted past a pub full of opposition fans?
In 2019 Rovers & Dundalk were kept well apart. We were allowed nowhere near the Irishtown end of the ground.
Doesn't happen in other sports in Ireland. Are we gone that bad that mixing and banter between fans isn't possible anymore.
This behaviour really is pathetic
total hoofball
13/11/2022, 9:32 PM
Unfortunately had to watch the game on RTE, but it couldn't have gone any better.
Comiserations Total Hoofball, a decent Shels poster on here, if your team and some fans let you down, your management didn't... Given us some hard games this year.
Congrats to yourself and Derry, you's turned up today and put in your best most professional performance of the 5 matches between the teams while we put in the worst display of the 5 matches, you can't not turn up on cup final day whether you had a positive season or not!
Unless Derry and Shels mess up recruitment in the off season I think both teams will be stronger moving up the league table in 2023 certainly lessons learned for Duff and some of our young players after today's stinker
Martinho II
13/11/2022, 9:46 PM
Congrats to yourself and Derry, you's turned up today and put in your best most professional performance of the 5 matches between the teams while we put in the worst display of the 5 matches, you can't not turn up on cup final day whether you had a positive season or not!
Unless Derry and Shels mess up recruitment in the off season I think both teams will be stronger moving up the league table in 2023 certainly lessons learned for Duff and some of our young players after today's stinker
As a neutral thought that Aodh Dervin had a great game for Shels. Thought ex town striker Sean Boyd was fierce poor and was lucky to stay on the pitch. Why was Aaron ODriscoll not playing?
sullanefc
13/11/2022, 11:45 PM
Cawley and Stuey look sick there!
:D brilliant :D
2 Year Contract
13/11/2022, 11:47 PM
Doesn't happen in other sports in Ireland. Are we gone that bad that mixing and banter between fans isn't possible anymore.
This behaviour really is pathetic
Well that’s just not true that it doesn’t happen in other sports. It’s a constant in GAA, with the latest example of this being a video from club fixture that was doing the rounds on Saturday this weekend of 2 teams punching the head off each other on the pitch meanwhile supporters in the stand were doing the same including a woman smashing people over the head with a hurley.
sullanefc
13/11/2022, 11:51 PM
They've resorted to punching the head off each other now instead. An absolute embarrassment of a club on and off the pitch. Maybe duff was right after all with the ‘little old shelbourne’ phrase he invented
https://twitter.com/tallaght_saint/status/1591833443654139904?s=46&t=aQ5wNPnxQiqNMcUZF0G_gA
Some amount of scummy behaviour today ffs.
Jd2793
14/11/2022, 7:17 AM
As a neutral thought that Aodh Dervin had a great game for Shels. Thought ex town striker Sean Boyd was fierce poor and was lucky to stay on the pitch. Why was Aaron ODriscoll not playing?
dervin was very poor IMO. He looks very busy but it worked against shels. not very disciplined at all with his pressure. left lots of space in behind him. thought boyd did ok given he barely had service esp 1st half. moylan was shocking. shels badly missed someone with a bit of class like smith. they'll need to upgrade the 3 cm + 2wb positions this off season.
Kiki Balboa
14/11/2022, 8:04 AM
Well that’s just not true that it doesn’t happen in other sports. It’s a constant in GAA, with the latest example of this being a video from club fixture that was doing the rounds on Saturday this weekend of 2 teams punching the head off each other on the pitch meanwhile supporters in the stand were doing the same including a woman smashing people over the head with a hurley.
https://twitter.com/swiftycook/status/1591564323318820864
I think this is the video.
oriel
14/11/2022, 10:15 AM
Real missed opportunity for Pats this year I think, with losing to Waterford. Don’t think it would have happened if we hadn’t been in Europe that week.
Sure Waterford could say the same, and we could too when losing to Waterford, I think the common link is, how on earth did that Shelbourne team reach the final, they were very poor yesterday.
I remember Dundalk lost 3-0 to Rovers in 87 final, but we were decent that season, came through 3 games v Bohs in the semi (the old H+A semi, then a replay), we just froze on the day of the final, but bounced back and won the double in 88.
Derry were very impressive yesterday, full flowing football and congrats to them.
Overall end of season worked with no one having any complaints, Rovers best in the league albeit a bit dogged but they got job done, Derry won a major trophy and in style, Dundalk back in europe at first attempt, Pats by the back door in Europe, UCD staying up on absolute merit, and Cork City winning the FD with game or to spare?
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