2022 FAI Cup

[Jack B]

Quite enjoying how this weekend has ended up playing out it has to be said. Softened the blow of our own shambles of a performance anyway.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Derry haven't been great since the red, a lot of aimless crosses this half. Perhaps a bit too over confident having to play ten men.

[Calcio Jack]

Dreadful by Pohls - and poor decision by Bradley to start him

[Calcio Jack]

We’ll that’s that- now Derrys double to lose - would of being nice to have to get to final , now all about ensuring we win the league - Shels next Thurs and UCD tomorrow week will be interest

[ger121]

We’ll that’s that- now Derrys double to lose - would of being nice to have to get to final , now all about ensuring we win the league - Shels next Thurs and UCD tomorrow week will be interest

Derry’s double to lose? You’re 1 point ahead, have 2 games in hand and a superior goal difference. You also don’t have to worry about additional cup games. It’s your league and Derry’s cup to lose.

[ontheotherhand]

last thing we needed was a grueling cup tie on a ****e pitch with ten men.

we are starting to look very ragged although the second half performance was good.

peno was a peno on second viewing to be fair but I don't think you can send Grace off as well. he had his eyes on the ball the whole time.

just keep yourselves focused on the cup please Derry.

[Calcio Jack]

Derry’s double to lose? You’re 1 point ahead, have 2 games in hand and a superior goal difference. You also don’t have to worry about additional cup games. It’s your league and Derry’s cup to lose.

It was meant as ‘humour’

[placid casual]

I wonder if the Rovers players in Derry thought the same.

Your grasping of a straw has made today's result all the more palatable.
You and your dalk-ie mates best get into that church and in your knees praying for derry to win the cup, or your expensive looking squad won't qualify for Europe.
Fair play to derry, better side on the day, and who can begrudge ex Rovers Lafferty & Kavanagh a shot at silverware.
Onwards and upwards.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Away in Derry, that'll be the end of that. But should be good experience at least.

[Dermobohs]

Derry v treaty
Waterford v shels

[Yossarian]

Your grasping of a straw has made today's result all the more palatable.
You and your dalk-ie mates best get into that church and in your knees praying for derry to win the cup, or your expensive looking squad won't qualify for Europe.
Fair play to derry, better side on the day, and who can begrudge ex Rovers Lafferty & Kavanagh a shot at silverware.
Onwards and upwards.

Yes, the squad is so expensively assembled that we couldn’t afford to hold onto the best defender in the league in the summer.

[nigel-harps1954]

Will Waterford have to put in some temporary seating into RSC to cater for the crowd or are they allowed a bit of standing around the perimeter of the running track? Demand for that game could be huge.

[sbgawa]

Yes, the squad is so expensively assembled that we couldn’t afford to hold onto the best defender in the league in the summer.

Will look like a cheap signing in hindsight if he costs you Europe.
Not that bothered tbh with tonight , would have liked to win but winning the league is all i care about really since the 32 year hoodoo was broken.
If we dont beat Shels and UCD Bradley should play the 19s in Europe, we arent going to win the Conference league but we can win our own league.
If he loses sight of that its nuts

[Nesta99]

Your grasping of a straw has made today's result all the more palatable.
You and your dalk-ie mates best get into that church and in your knees praying for derry to win the cup, or your expensive looking squad won't qualify for Europe.
Fair play to derry, better side on the day, and who can begrudge ex Rovers Lafferty & Kavanagh a shot at silverware.
Onwards and upwards.

Dont be deflecting now PC, a league and cup double would have been a hell of a way for Bradley to sign off if he decides to move on. it stings for any of us out at this stage. Dundalk were late in getting a squad together and wasnt at all expensive though that could be relative. We are in year 1 of a 3 year process with European qualification the target but it was more fans talking about this year. Can still happen considering how really tough a season it could have been. I'd have a totally different perspective if we'd goe through but it is good to see that the cup semis will involve 'new' sides and obviously Derry and Treaty are the hoped winners now!

[Nesta99]

Will look like a cheap signing in hindsight if he costs you Europe.
Not that bothered tbh with tonight , would have liked to win but winning the league is all i care about really since the 32 year hoodoo was broken.
If we dont beat Shels and UCD Bradley should play the 19s in Europe, we arent going to win the Conference league but we can win our own league.
If he loses sight of that its nuts

A tranfer fee to Dundee and the players terms were just not possible and would have wiped out an early round of Europe participation - and no certainty to have got there. I dont blame the club in any way for saying nope! Sometimes you just have to accept where you are at and resist the overreach!

[Partizan]

Will Waterford have to put in some temporary seating into RSC to cater for the crowd or are they allowed a bit of standing around the perimeter of the running track? Demand for that game could be huge.

We had in temporary seating before in the late 90s and early 00s before the East Stand was built. You are correct, demand for this game will be huge and there will be added pressure to install temporary seating behind the goals in order to cater for an expected bumper crowd. As it stands, the capacity of the RSC is 5,000 (3,000 seats - 2,000 standing).

There were also plans to extend the Cork Road Stand to bring seating capacity in the RSC up to 5,000 but that got shelved due to lack of funding.

[Calcio Jack]

Dont be deflecting now PC, a league and cup double would have been a hell of a way for Bradley to sign off if he decides to move on. it stings for any of us out at this stage. Dundalk were late in getting a squad together and wasnt at all expensive though that could be relative. We are in year 1 of a 3 year process with European qualification the target but it was more fans talking about this year. Can still happen considering how really tough a season it could have been. I'd have a totally different perspective if we'd goe through but it is good to see that the cup semis will involve 'new' sides and obviously Derry and Treaty are the hoped winners now!

Agree a double would be fantastic and until they achieve one ; this team will ‘only’ be regarded as a very good side within Rovers and of course externally a great side when compared to other clubs achievements and that’s assuming they complete 3-in a row league titles .

To attain ‘great’ side status when measured against the parthenon of previous Rovers teams more is required.

The benchmark at Rovers is higher than at any other club due to our historical success unmatched by others ( the next level above great is ‘legendary’ held by the 4 in a row teams) so for their own legacy not just Bradley’s the challenge is to attain at least one double.

Cue the usual bitter/jealous comments from those that can’t accept facts.😜

[nigel-harps1954]

We had in temporary seating before in the late 90s and early 00s before the East Stand was built. You are correct, demand for this game will be huge and there will be added pressure to install temporary seating behind the goals in order to cater for an expected bumper crowd. As it stands, the capacity of the RSC is 5,000 (3,000 seats - 2,000 standing).

There were also plans to extend the Cork Road Stand to bring seating capacity in the RSC up to 5,000 but that got shelved due to lack of funding.

Would the club ever have ambitions to build their own football stadium? RSC is a grand enough ground but with obvious limitations, and the running track is a disaster for watching games.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Would the club ever have ambitions to build their own football stadium? RSC is a grand enough ground but with obvious limitations, and the running track is a disaster for watching games.

The most important thing for the club now is stability. Long way off ever dreaming about our own ground. The new owner is in talks with the council over a 50 year licence. Aside from that the RSC pitch is generally up there as one of the best.

Besides away supporters not being happy with the view I don’t believe in the track excuse, yes it’s be fantastic to be on top of the pitch. When the clubs doing well and winning and there’s a buzz around the club tickets sell well. When sh*t is hitting the pot off pitch and the results aren’t going well generally that tends to the excuse for people not going. But we’d be crazy to be even considering our own ground right now. The RSC has some really good facilities outside of using it as our home ground.

IMO, a new ground isn’t even on the list of concerns! You’re right there’s limitations to playing in the RSC, but right now there’s nothing to suggest even if we’d our own 5k seater that attendances would exceed those at the RSC.

None of us are living in fairy land just yet, a couple games with 3k plus in attendance is great an all but we’re all very aware the potential is there for a good crowd. It’s silly talk looking for a new ground because of the potential. The crowds would need to be consistently that high in the medium term to be even considering the idea of a bigger ground tbh. I’d imagine it’d be a lot more realistic to think there’s potential for the stands to be extended and lengthen in the RSC then us financing and building a new ground from scratch. This reminds me of the time Cork sold out turners cross 3/4 games in arrow a few years ago and one particular fella was banging on about how Cork should move to a bigger ground and apply to join the SPL.

[osarusan]

Derry v Treaty
Waterford v Shelbourne

As bas as it could be for us...

[2 Year Contract]

Interesting results in the cup games this weekend with 4 home wins for sides all below their respective opponents in the league. Can’t see a Derry - shels final breaking a 22 or 23k attendance to be honest

[placid casual]

I wouldnt be counting out Waterfords chances just yet. They were mightily impressive at home to dundalk, albeit dundalk looked a bit of a mess at the back. Very tough draw for Treaty, the worst of 6 possible options and can't see derry mess up from here.

Everyone on here (incl. me) predicted that duffer would fall on his a$$ in this 1st management gig, but he's done OK and a cup final appearance would give the forever maligned shels fans something to cling on to.

[ontheotherhand]

I wouldnt be counting out Waterfords chances just yet. They were mightily impressive at home to dundalk, albeit dundalk looked a bit of a mess at the back. Very tough draw for Treaty, the worst of 6 possible options and can't see derry mess up from here.

Everyone on here (incl. me) predicted that duffer would fall on his a$$ in this 1st management gig, but he's done OK and a cup final appearance would give the forever maligned shels fans something to cling on to.

Not everyone thought duff would fail. To be honest, his track record speaks more of his own conviction than it does to any degree of flakiness. He's walked away from things he didn't like or when bigger opportunities came around. He hasn't been asked to leave from anywhere afaik?

Do you not remember how well thought of he was at Rovers?

[D24Saint]

Would the club ever have ambitions to build their own football stadium? RSC is a grand enough ground but with obvious limitations, and the running track is a disaster for watching games.

Not the worst ground by loi standards. I always hated a running track when watching football matches but.

[lofty9]

last thing we needed was a grueling cup tie on a ****e pitch with ten men.

we are starting to look very ragged although the second half performance was good.

peno was a peno on second viewing to be fair but I don't think you can send Grace off as well. he had his eyes on the ball the whole time.

just keep yourselves focused on the cup please Derry.


Haven't seen it on TV but it was a definite penalty, Grace got himself in all sorts of bother with his positioning and clipped him. Never a red as it wasn't deliberate.

Extra time, a lot of the game with ten men was the worst thing that could happen to Rovers yesterday, great for the run in for us. Hopefully there is a title race!

Rovers looked off it from the start, Derry's usual home second half performance let them back in the game.

Pitch is awful, Derry struggle in it when it doesn't rain. We've had very dry weather surprisingly nearly every home game this season.

[oriel]

Derry are 11/10 to win the cup, I would have made them odds on after that draw.

Derry - 11/10
Shels - 9/5
Waterford - 7/2
Treaty - 10/1

Can't see them not winning it as unless Rovers collapse and lose 2 or 3 games, the cup will be their only hope for a trophy, good news also for whoever comes 4th, either Dundalk or Pats as that will get the final euro spot.

[DCSIL]

Derry v Treaty 2pm
Waterford v Shels 4.45pm

Both Sunday 16 October

[EatYerGreens]

The most important thing for the club now is stability. Long way off ever dreaming about our own ground. The new owner is in talks with the council over a 50 year licence. Aside from that the RSC pitch is generally up there as one of the best.

Besides away supporters not being happy with the view I don’t believe in the track excuse, yes it’s be fantastic to be on top of the pitch. When the clubs doing well and winning and there’s a buzz around the club tickets sell well. When sh*t is hitting the pot off pitch and the results aren’t going well generally that tends to the excuse for people not going. But we’d be crazy to be even considering our own ground right now. The RSC has some really good facilities outside of using it as our home ground.

IMO, a new ground isn’t even on the list of concerns! You’re right there’s limitations to playing in the RSC, but right now there’s nothing to suggest even if we’d our own 5k seater that attendances would exceed those at the RSC.

None of us are living in fairy land just yet, a couple games with 3k plus in attendance is great an all but we’re all very aware the potential is there for a good crowd. It’s silly talk looking for a new ground because of the potential. The crowds would need to be consistently that high in the medium term to be even considering the idea of a bigger ground tbh. I’d imagine it’d be a lot more realistic to think there’s potential for the stands to be extended and lengthen in the RSC then us financing and building a new ground from scratch. This reminds me of the time Cork sold out turners cross 3/4 games in arrow a few years ago and one particular fella was banging on about how Cork should move to a bigger ground and apply to join the SPL.

Waterford have had some great crowds this year. But a problem for them will be if Cork and Galway both get promoted, as it's hard to see similarly big crowds next season against pretty much anyone else in the division (unless Waterford are storming the league - though even then).

[EatYerGreens]

Interesting results in the cup games this weekend with 4 home wins for sides all below their respective opponents in the league. Can’t see a Derry - shels final breaking a 22 or 23k attendance to be honest

Agree. I'd say 20,000 at it would be a great result, and even anything over 15,000 really would be good (depending on how many neutrals and randomws can be attracted).

Makes me question the wisdom of the FAI starting to sell cup final tickets so early. Why do they need to do that ? It means that they're now stuck with an increased price, when surely common sense would have said to wait until at least the semi-finals are known to understand who is likely to be in it and then price accordingly ? Or just wait until the finalists are known and then go with a big bang launch.

Would Waterford bring more to a final than Shels, I wonder ?

[EatYerGreens]

Derry v Treaty 2pm
Waterford v Shels 4.45pm

Both Sunday 16 October

Are they the confimed times now ? Both presumably on TV too.

Not a huge gap between them in case the first game goes to ET and penalties.

[brendy_éire]

Are they the confimed times now ? Both presumably on TV too.

Not a huge gap between them in case the first game goes to ET and penalties.

Replays for the semis, no?

[nigel-harps1954]

Are they the confimed times now ? Both presumably on TV too.

Not a huge gap between them in case the first game goes to ET and penalties.

I would say, in that scenario, it's perfectly timed for one game to almost run into the other.

Also, you'd imagine, part of the reason Derry v Treaty is on first. The expectation will be for a fairly routine Derry win.

[Martinho II]

Is this the first time in a long time that both semis are on after the other?

[2 Year Contract]

Just looking at the highlights of the quarter finals. My god Rory Feely has had a woeful season. He had a decent game against pats in Dalymount in March but any time I’ve seen him since he’s been absolutely shocking. The same can be said for Ciaran Kelly. Two massive weaklinks in the team that have cost a lot of goals for Bohs through stupid errors. Patterson's goal for Waterford and Curran's third for Treaty were beautiful strikes

[trevy]

I think semi finals do go to replays unless it has changed from last year. Anyone know for certain?
That was a brilliant goal from Patterson, one of the best I've seen at the RSC.

[nigel-harps1954]

FAI haven't confirmed it anywhere. Would presume they'll be played to a close on the day though.

[RealJohn91]

Just looking at the highlights of the quarter finals. My god Rory Feely has had a woeful season. He had a decent game against pats in Dalymount in March but any time I’ve seen him since he’s been absolutely shocking. The same can be said for Ciaran Kelly. Two massive weaklinks in the team that have cost a lot of goals for Bohs through stupid errors. Patterson's goal for Waterford and Curran's third for Treaty were beautiful strikes
Feely is right up there as one of the worst players I've ever seen for Bohs. He's probably played over 50 games for us now and is getting worse and worse every week. His mistakes alone have probably cost us 10/12 points this season. It's criminal Long kept him around as long as he did.

[Buller]

Feely is right up there as one of the worst players I've ever seen for Bohs. He's probably played over 50 games for us now and is getting worse and worse every week. His mistakes alone have probably cost us 10/12 points this season. It's criminal Long kept him around as long as he did.

I remember him being awful too whenever Rovers have played against him.

[Jack B]

Feely is purely an athlete for me, nothing more. Was often a winger at youth level at Pats and has only ever seemed to even approach being decent at senior level when at full back, I'm guessing he's only at centre back due to his height/physicality because nothing about it suits him on a footballing level.

[sulywaterfordfc]

News this evening, The Blues have sold out home seated tickets ahead of the semi final. After season ticket holders and support club members sales only 500 tickets went on general sale today. Talks a significant number of ground tickets will now go on sale. Unfortunately working in Cork that evening so won?t make the game. Delighted it?s on TV

[nr637]

News this evening, The Blues have sold out home seated tickets ahead of the semi final. After season ticket holders and support club members sales only 500 tickets went on general sale today. Talks a significant number of ground tickets will now go on sale. Unfortunately working in Cork that evening so won?t make the game. Delighted it?s on TV

Any information if Waterford are able to increase the capacity for this home semi-final, I'm only asking as you would presume they would have to apply/arrange things from a H & S point view with the local authorities! :confused:

[nigel-harps1954]

Any information if Waterford are able to increase the capacity for this home semi-final, I'm only asking as you would presume they would have to apply/arrange things from a H & S point view with the local authorities! :confused:

Seen on social media that they'd looked into temporary seating but it was going to cost too much.

[EatYerGreens]

So much money being lost to clubs all around the league by the very limited capacity of certain stadiums.

[pateen]

And the so called health and safety that seems to differ massively depending on what sport you're regulating

[sulywaterfordfc]

A significant number of terrace tickets have gone on sale, assume it?ll be a barrier behind both goals on the track. Similarly how it was when there use to be just one stand in the RSC. I?ve heard seating capacity is just over 3k and the full capacity including standing is in the 5/5.1k region.

[trevy]

The record attendance at the RSC of over 8000 was for the 1997 FAI Cup semi final also v Shelbourne when there was only 1 real stand there. 5000 or so seems to be correct now with I presume health and safety regulations being stricter now.

[nr637]

I suppose if the club have looked into the cost of increasing the capacity and feel it is too expensive they are right to go their way.

Get to the final and they won't have that problem as they can focus on promoting the day and attract as a big a following as possible up to the Aviva!
:)

[sulywaterfordfc]

I suppose if the club have looked into the cost of increasing the capacity and feel it is too expensive they are right to go their way.

Get to the final and they won't have that problem as they can focus on promoting the day and attract as a big a following as possible up to the Aviva!
:)

One of the new members of the administration working with ourselves and Fleetwood. Stated on a private profile in the fans forum/game on Facebook that they looked into temp seating and the cost would have outweighed the income therefore would have cost the club thousands.

[joey B]

Only 450 tickets for Shels at the RSC,seems a bit small no?

[total hoofball]

Only 450 tickets for Shels at the RSC,seems a bit small no?
Of course it's too small, less than 10% of capacity, Shels sent an email earlier today to season ticket holders explaining the ticketing situation and it was a very carefully worded scathing of Waterford, FAI also attempted to get Waterford to release more tickets without any success

This shouldn't be happening in this day and age, needs to be something clearly in the FAI Cup participation rules specifying away ticket percentage allocation if you are hosting a cup semi-final