American Politics

[seanfhear]

Ever wonder why trump is targeting cities in states that voted against him?
There's cities in the US with far worse records than Chicago, but are all in states that voted republican.I wonder why the Democrats never seem to bothered about the appalling crime statistics in the places they run ?

The Democrats have been running these places for decades and more, and the Crime Statistic are horrific !

[Razors left peg]

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Vast majority of high crime Cities in US are in Republican States.

[mark12345]

Mark is ok with the SS on the streets it seems

There's a statement to beat the lot. The SS on the streets. The SS if I remember correctly were taking lives. The national guard are protecting lives. A little bit of a difference wouldn't you say?

Once again it stuns me that someone is more worried about the image of the national guard on the streets of America (that would be the same national guard who saved people after natural disasters and had a glowing public image then) than saving lives of innocent people.

[mark12345]

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Vast majority of high crime Cities in US are in Republican States.

Did you read what you posted? It lists a bunch of cities that are run by Democrats. I myself listed Baltimore in an earlier post.

[mark12345]

Ever wonder why trump is targeting cities in states that voted against him?
There's cities in the US with far worse records than Chicago, but are all in states that voted republican.

Chicago has been murder central for decades.

[seanfhear]

Chicago has been murder central for decades.
Odd isn't it. That Lefties / American Democrats don't want to stop murders / crime ! !

Very odd. Lefties / American Democrats love their, murders / crime ! !

[SkStu]

Im not sure theres a single thing I agreed with Kirk on, but shooting him is disastrous for this country.

theres a "first shot fired" feel to this alright.

[SkStu]

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Vast majority of high crime Cities in US are in Republican States.

just want to play devils advocate but state voting has little to do with the situation though... right? You know better than me, but aren't most of these cities democrat Mayors (I havent checked the list but my assumption is that "large city" usually = "democrat run" whereas state/rural tends more red) and even at state level, wouldn't a portion of these states have blue Governors? I assume by Republican state you and Tets mean, the state voted Trump...?

[tetsujin1979]

Odd isn't it. That Lefties / American Democrats don't want to stop murders / crime ! !

Very odd. Lefties / American Democrats love their, murders / crime ! !

Going by the link above, neither do Republicans, and in more cities.

[SkStu]

Guns are regulated to the hilt in America but so far no one has come up with a solution for keeping them out of the hands of criminals who have no regard for and never will care about the law.

I dont believe this is accurate. Guns are widely available in the States. And what makes the problem worse is that weapons are available that just shouldnt be. Military grade weapons. There is no excuse for a citizen to own these. The rationale is archaic. I am good with pistols, shotguns and an normal rifles being available based on a principle of onerous regulation and lifetime ownership bans on convicted criminals and, frankly, psychologically unhinged w@nkers of all political persuasions. Theres a solution. And f*ck Cletus from Buttf*ck, Montana.

[Razors left peg]

just want to play devils advocate but state voting has little to do with the situation though... right? You know better than me, but aren't most of these cities democrat Mayors (I havent checked the list but my assumption is that "large city" usually = "democrat run" whereas state/rural tends more red) and even at state level, wouldn't a portion of these states have blue Governors? I assume by Republican state you and Tets mean, the state voted Trump...?

Stu quite honestly cities across the world have high crime rates. Its just a load of b0llocks being spun whether its red or blue in any country for most part. The lads here love highlighting Chicago as high crime, but for the most part Chicago is a fantastic city that I love going to. I probably wouldn't spend too much time in the south side of the City though, much like theres parts of Galway I wouldnt wanna be at night.

Anywhere there is poverty there is crime, simple as. If we want to look at poverty rates in the US, the top 10 poorest states are overwhelmingly Republican. Maybe we should be focused on that sort of problem instead of giving tax breaks to billioneers.

Again the 2 lads coming out with statements like the left love murder. Two months ago Melissa and Mark Hortman and their dog were murdered in their home and there was no moment of prayer in Congress, no lowering of flags to half-staff, a Republican senator openly mocked their death and other Republicans just ignored it...and that's only one example very recently.

[joey B]

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An unlikely source for a sensible take!

[SkStu]

After over a decade of complete chaos and BS, it’s the only reasonable take left. Extremists and dangerous idiots on both sides are w@nkers of the highest order. Fanning flames constantly.

Good post Razor. Will reply in a bit.

[SkStu]

Stu quite honestly cities across the world have high crime rates. Its just a load of b0llocks being spun whether its red or blue in any country for most part. The lads here love highlighting Chicago as high crime, but for the most part Chicago is a fantastic city that I love going to. I probably wouldn't spend too much time in the south side of the City though, much like theres parts of Galway I wouldnt wanna be at night.

Anywhere there is poverty there is crime, simple as. If we want to look at poverty rates in the US, the top 10 poorest states are overwhelmingly Republican. Maybe we should be focused on that sort of problem instead of giving tax breaks to billioneers.

Again the 2 lads coming out with statements like the left love murder. Two months ago Melissa and Mark Hortman and their dog were murdered in their home and there was no moment of prayer in Congress, no lowering of flags to half-staff, a Republican senator openly mocked their death and other Republicans just ignored it...and that's only one example very recently.

Listen, agree with you. If we were to list all of the contributing factors to serious crime and gun crime, they’d be all the socio-economic causes you list and political stripes of the state or city leaders would be far down the list and, at best, an indirect cause. The only reasonable I asked the questions and played devils advocate was because someone raised the connection first as “the reason” and you happened to be the last one to post something on it.

[Neish]

Guns are regulated to the hilt in America

That is utter nonsense, gun are regulate properly in just about every other country and mass shooting are rare event in just about every other country. Gun law are lax in the USA compare to most other nations and mass shooting are an almost weekly event. Every other country has violent films, violent video game, mental health issues and all the go to reasons the gun lobby use, he reason mass shooting are most common in the USA is the ready access to fire arms. You can dress it up anyway you want that is the sole reason

[Nesta99]

Guns are so well regulated in the US that a cache of weapons that turned up in Ardee that were purchased from a gun shop in Arizona...
https://focus.independent.ie/thumbor/OcDEK6z9s-biyb6iI_AgQc-wcl4=/0x24:1170x804/960x640/prod-mh-ireland/3dd7bccb-2727-4e9b-9852-66a337efb4b4/feec031e-745a-46fe-8950-4bd133f9024b/3dd7bccb-2727-4e9b-9852-66a337efb4b4.jpg

[mark12345]

Guns are so well regulated in the US that a cache of weapons that turned up in Ardee that were purchased from a gun shop in Arizona...
https://focus.independent.ie/thumbor/OcDEK6z9s-biyb6iI_AgQc-wcl4=/0x24:1170x804/960x640/prod-mh-ireland/3dd7bccb-2727-4e9b-9852-66a337efb4b4/feec031e-745a-46fe-8950-4bd133f9024b/3dd7bccb-2727-4e9b-9852-66a337efb4b4.jpg

Looks like criminal activity going on, wouldn't you say? Wonder how those criminals get guns? Could it possibly be that the judges entrusted with enforcing the law are not doing their jobs? If not why not? Can you look into that?

[tetsujin1979]

Any of those guns could have been legally purchased in the US. Maybe you should investigate that?

[mark12345]

Any of those guns could have been legally purchased in the US. Maybe you should investigate that?

Legally purchased and then stolen is that what you mean? Or do you mean guns trafficked by some terrorist organization to Ireland in which case it's an international crime and the authorities in both countries should soon be on top of it?

Let me know how you make out looking into those judges.

[mark12345]

Any of those guns could have been legally purchased in the US. Maybe you should investigate that?

And while we're on the subject of guns the anti gun lobby in the US has long since said that it's ok to own a hunting rifle but not a semi automatic pistol or rifle. Well the gun that killed Charlie Kirk was a hunting rifle.

[SkStu]

Looks like the suspect is in custody.

[tetsujin1979]

Legally purchased and then stolen is that what you mean? Or do you mean guns trafficked by some terrorist organization to Ireland in which case it's an international crime and the authorities in both countries should soon be on top of it?

Let me know how you make out looking into those judges.I mean purchased legally

[joey B]

Looks like the suspect is in custody.

Who seems to be from a Republican background,father a minister and a former member of law enforcement ….

[mark12345]

I mean purchased legally

Purchased legally only for the law to be broken thereafter

[seanfhear]

Who seems to be from a Republican background,father a minister and a former member of law enforcement ….
Do you judge everyone, by what their parents are, or what their parents have done ?

Maybe a bit of patience would be the prudent way, for a while at least ?

[joey B]

Do you judge everyone, by what their parents are, or what their parents have done ?

Maybe a bit of patience would be the prudent way, for a while at least ?

Merely passing on the information that’s available Sean,I’m judging nothing or anybody……

[Razors left peg]

Do you judge everyone, by what their parents are, or what their parents have done ?

Maybe a bit of patience would be the prudent way, for a while at least ?

Patience he says. The guy who instantly posted that the Left loves murder right after the shooting before we had a clue who did it. When it turns out it was a white guy from a good old Republican family its "lets not be so quick to judge".

Absolute fcukin hypocrite

[seanfhear]

Patience he says. The guy who instantly posted that the Left loves murder right after the shooting before we had a clue who did it. When it turns out it was a white guy from a good old Republican family its "lets not be so quick to judge".

Absolute fcukin hypocriteBe patient.

[Razors left peg]

Be patient.

Just like you were huh?

[pineapple stu]

Ah lads, don't give seanfhear and mark oxygen in fairness. They've shown time and again they're not interested in debate, just in reiterating someone else's view.
I might just quote myself here I guess...

The Current Affairs section here can be very good when it gets going. But not when seanfhear and mark drag everyone down with their nonsense posting.

[seanfhear]

I might just quote myself here I guess...

The Current Affairs section here can be very good when it gets going. But not when seanfhear and mark drag everyone down with their nonsense posting.
Shoot the messengers just like the Leftists / Communists always do / want to do !

[Razors left peg]

Shoot the messengers just like the Leftists / Communists always do / want to do !

Moron

[seanfhear]

MoronNow resorting to name calling, Lefties are very predictable.

[Razors left peg]

This is why you dont debate with idiots, they just bring you down to their level and try to beat you with experience

[Razors left peg]

Trump this morning asked on Fox how do we fix this country. His answer "I couldn't care less". Might be the 1st truth I've heard the guy speak.

https://x.com/MikeSington/status/1966509268112449837?t=cQk4QvZ6CkPPSuNOUyPDOg&s=19

[seanfhear]

This is why you dont debate with idiots, they just bring you down to their level and try to beat you with experienceLeftists can't win debates, which is why they shoot a Man like Charlie Kirk, who can debate and win a debate . It's the Leftist / Communist way.

[Razors left peg]

Who shot Melissa and Mark Hortman ? Who attacked Paul Pelosi?

[seanfhear]

Who shot Melissa and Mark Hortman ? Who attacked Paul Pelosi?The Guy attacked Paul Pelosi seemed to be a nutter ( just a run of the mill nutter, in this case ) !

Vance Boelter Indicted for the Murders of Melissa and Mark Hortman, the Shootings of John and Yvette Hoffman, and the Attempted Shooting of Hope Hoffman ~ To be honest, I have never seen any clear information of Vance Boelters political affiliations !

[Razors left peg]

Course you haven't

[seanfhear]

Course you haven'tPut some stuff up that shows the political affiliations on the bad guys in both of those case !

I don't think you picked two good choices.

There must be some right wing nutters that you could have found. There is definitely some right-wing nutters, but these days there are plenty of left-wing nutters.

As Communists have shown many times, they can become extremely dangerous when they have been radicalised enough.

[Razors left peg]

Boelter was a Registered Republican who voted for Trump.

[seanfhear]

Boelter was a Registered Republican who voted for Trump.Do you have proof of that, especially the voting for Trump ?

Being registered as a republican or democrat can be done for many reasons in America, it's not actually that straightforward. People who are republicans might register as a democrat ( and vice versa ) to try to influence these parties.

As a bit of a political nerd, I have never actually seen that much definitive proof one way or the other on Vance Boelter !

[tetsujin1979]

What would you describe as definitive proof?

[seanfhear]

What would you describe as definitive proof?Ok, a lot more proof that has been presented so far anyway.

[Razors left peg]

You see proof enough on the other side when you want to though dont ya! Very quick to jump to conclusions, but like today when the shooter comes from a republican background its whoah lets be patient and see.

Its people like you who, are adamant about left and right and are convinced that they are the only ones who could be correct. The other side is completely evil. You are the problem. Most people just want to get on with their lives and have whatever country they are in work properly.

[seanfhear]

You see proof enough on the other side when you want to though dont ya! Very quick to jump to conclusions, but like today when the shooter comes from a republican background its whoah lets be patient and see.

Its people like you who, are adamant about left and right and are convinced that they are the only ones who could be correct. The other side is completely evil. You are the problem. Most people just want to get on with their lives and have whatever country they are in work properly.As the day goes buy and more information comes out, what do you think it's looking like re; The motivations of the Charlie Kirk killer, maybe a bit too early but it is looking far more likely that this young man has been radicalised by left-wing ideology ( obviously dangerous left-wing ideology ) ~ I await further information but it does look most likely that the way I am seeing it is by far the most likely way it is.

If I am correct, it is a sorry state of affairs, that so many young people are being dangerously radicalised by left-wing ideology !

[Razors left peg]

It would be so much better if he was a radicalized Nazi right?

[seanfhear]

It would be so much better if he was a radicalized Nazi right?
Why would you think that ?

You do understand that both the extreme right and the extreme left are both extremely dangerous. Just look at how many people have been killed by both of them. Right wing extremism kills as does left-wing extremism. As a quick look at history will tell us. Not to play the numbers game but the left-wing extremism has killed plenty, some would say, a lot more than right-wing extremism. Why are some people not as worried about left-wing extremism as right-wing extremism. Both have been brutal killers of huge numbers of people in history !

It's almost as if some people are content to let left-wing extremism have another go, despite history telling us this would be a terrible idea !

[Razors left peg]

Face Palm meme..... I have never learned how to post them here LOL

[SkStu]

jaysus...this thread has gone to (Pol) Pot...