Mayo Junior Soccer

[swift]

Hi guys I'm new to this board but I have being keeping up with all the gossip that ye are writing. In relation to whats happening at Celtic it is true that Maloney has signed along with Burke from Ballinrobe and O'Dwyer from Silgo Rovers, and news in the pipeline is that there are three or four more to join in the next week or so. Its a big decision to take in bringing in those lads and moving on others that played all their lives but as Dykes said "I'm not here to win friends". Also news reaches me that Westport and Manulla have being in touch with Keith Bourke, one of those lads that was frozen out at Celtic. Remember only a few years ago he was the best player in Mayo by a mile and also a top player in the Senior League, before Micheal McNicholas started playing him out of position and he just went downhill from there. I remember the free-kick he scored against Manulla in the semi of the Connaught Cup definately the best goal I have ever seen. Just wondering if Dykes or the great Fergie can afford to say "no thanks" to that sort of talent when a club like the Port are willing to take him on board. Any thoughts?

[The Don]

Well one thing is for sure Dykes has not made any friends so he's true to his word there!. Keith is not going to be the only disgruntled player in the celtic camp, scottie has left and some of the younger players are becoming impatient with the lack of Junior action.

[Manfred]

Connacht cup is mimimum requirment for Mr.Dykes now.Is'nt D.Scanlon gone back to Sligo? Burke & Moloney are wide players, some native is sure to lose out.Still, wages and car have to be justified and results are the only way of doing that! Any word on a name for that young goalkeeping hero from the 'heane? And who's got the inside track on the Manulla player meeting? I hear Nicks is considering an offer from Ballina, must be too much turmoil in Balla.

[The Don]

Have Celtic approached every decent player in the county about playing for them. One of their senior mentors has been saying that they are close to signing 2 Wesport players! Find this very hard to believe.

[The Stars]

Whats this Burke fellas first name..
Did Joey Maloney play for Rovers aswell?

[gnasher]

Castlebar Celtic can bring in who they like - You cant build team spirit and I wonder how long it will take Mr. (Billy No Mates) Dykes to gel a squad of people together if he keeps shipping players out and in. I have absolutely no fear in them getting ex/current LOI players, the only thing they'll probably do is bleed the club dry.

That said, it is a bit sad to see local talent being tossed on the scrapheap beacuse of the club's lust for success. Celtic, not so long ago, won Connacht Cups with a totally local team so why the need to decimate local players now?

On the subject of Westport players signing for Castlebar - one word - POPPYCOCK!

No-one I know (alive or dead) would dream of it. And if they did, they had better uproot (bag and baggage as they used to say in school) and move to Castlebar as well. Foolish imps!

[gnasher]

Whats this Burke fellas first name..
Did Joey Maloney play for Rovers aswell?

Keith Bourke - Fishead Supreme.

I think Maloney spent a season with Sligo.

[The Don]

Yes Maloney played with Rovers for couple of seasons, but Ithink he only ever played a few cup matchs at senior level. Gnasher Celtic are calling to players houses looking for them to sign, god only knows what been promised to them. Yet again the lesser clubs are powerless to do anything to stop them. I wonder if the Mayo League will step in ?. Sorry have to go a pig just flew past my window!.

[sinabhuil]

When does the league start next year? Is there a Mayo League meeting in October? When are the cups ran? What cups are played in? Info please!:rolleyes:

[Thunderblaster]

With all the speculation on Castlebar Celtic, is there trouble in the camp when there are stories of more players being brought in from outside and some players that grew up with the hoops leaving for other clubs? I saw Dykes in action for Celtic once over the summer and I must admit that I would not be a fan of his overpowering prescence on his players. He had words with a player for not being aggressive enough. I would feel intimidated playing under him.

[Manfred]

Watched Celtic training recently, they looked like a bunch of happy campers. Mabe thoughts of Con cup blocking out the shouting. Good to see Mayo teams doing well in the Con cup R1, hope it continues. Nothing like a good cup run to shake off a traumatic summer. Any odds on C'morris completing the double next sun, Div1 & Tonra cup? What's happened to the 'heane sources for the keeper's name at u12?

[swinfordfc]

Think Claremorris will win the game but can westport play one or two of the first team in this game?

[The Don]

If they havent played for the first team in the cup they are allowed to play.

[gnasher]

I think Westport 'B' will be sticking with the same bunch of lads they've had all year. They owe Claremorris one.

I have seen both games they played this year and they were very close so it might be the odd goal in five or the dreaded peno's. I'm going for the 'B' Team. If they stop that Glynn guy (which they did in the home match) Claremorris don't have much else.

Premier Division Teams for next year - take note of my wisdom.

I'm off to help the don catch that flying pig, they're quite rare you know.

[swinfordfc]

Lacken v Ballina Utd McDonnell cup semi who win this i think very close to call Lacken just!

[The Don]

Lacken should be too strong.

[mossy]

Well Conn cup games went reasonably well. The FAI is next Sun, plenty of shocks in store there I presume. Lots of transfer activity already, certainly Celtic seem to mean business this Year. Rumours of strife in some clubs ie The Heane exodus to C/Bar Utd. Manulla's players revolt. McNicholas being sought by Manulla but opting for Ballina Instead - Money talks obviously and that should mean the end of Ballina and 'keeping it on the deck' football for next year, pity really as they where ok, rudderless but ok. The Port to roll on inexorably though !!

[Richard Dunne]

Whats this Burke fellas first name..
Did Joey Maloney play for Rovers aswell?
Gerry

[FahyForever]

Yeah, the Ballinrobe man in question is Ger Burke, who plays on the wing generally and is a really talented, tricky player. I have no idea if he is the guy Celtic are supposed to have signed but if they have it's a handy piece of business. He played on the Sligo Rovers reserve team I think, and even made the squad for their full team a couple of times. He's about 20.
I think that Westport are going to shade Claremorris at the weekend, they have a few defenders who are well capable of dealing with Derek Glynn and are strong throughout. Looking forward to our derbies with them next year!

[Ballina Town]

Might you have been a little harsh on Nix in your last comment.The Town have been playin 'on the deck' football for quiet a while ,without a qualified coach.That sort of football comes naturally to the vast majority of Town players and surely, the arrival of a someway qualified man can only bring a bit of structure and solidity to the team., without taking away that brand of football.

[Thunderblaster]

Ballina Town under The Nix next season will be formidable opponents and will surely throw the gauntlet for the super league. As for Castlebar Celtic bringing players from all over, I think that it is a serious mistake because Celtic has so many B players fighting to get onto the main squad and there is a vast stream of underage talent coming through. Players will become disillusioned and leave the club and it will set Celtic back twenty years. A quick term solution never achieve your long term goals. I heard that Westport United brought in Derry players years ago and it created so much division that the club nearly went out of existence. If Dykes is not careful; remember at the beginning when he said that there would be no players brought in; his current policy will be the death knell of Castlebar Celtic and Mayo soccer can ill afford to exist without the club.:ball:

[Ballina Town]

Are there any Mayo League Awards do ye know and if so,who do ye reckon will win ..what are the awards

[Manfred]

Yes, its hard to know what can be done to keep clubs more parocial, if that is what the majority want. No body can buy loyalty, and if players do'nt have it from an early age, it cant be taught later on. It would be a shame if all the good Celtic work at underage goes to waste. Westport, without imports, also have re built a successful underage structure and are looking ominous for years to come.
p.s (What 's happened to the 'heane sources for this wonder U12 keeper?)

[mossy]

Yes, its hard to know what can be done to keep clubs more parocial, if that is what the majority want. No body can buy loyalty, and if players do'nt have it from an early age, it cant be taught later on. It would be a shame if all the good Celtic work at underage goes to waste. Westport, without imports, also have re built a successful underage structure and are looking ominous for years to come.
p.s (What 's happened to the 'heane sources for this wonder U12 keeper?)
PLEASE TELL THIS PERSON WHO THE HELL THE PLAYER IS !!! AS THE HEANE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT THEIR PLAYERS AWAY FROM MAYO TEAMS IN THE PAST AM I TO PRESUME THIS IS TO CONTINUE INTO THE FUTURE !! AFTER ALL IS IT NOT EASIER TO GET INTO THE MAYO TEAM THAN CELTIC. WELL IT WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE

[juan pablo]

does anyone have any information on the continuous confusion on when the tuohy cup final will be played between ballinrobe and crossmolina??

[mossy]

I see Manulla have appointed their Favouritre Ref again for their potential Banana skin against the Glass. They must be worried !!
Any truth in the rumour that they are spending theit lotto cash on buying this ref a house in manulla as it would probably save them cash in the long run because he refs them so often. It used to be Mick Walsh but he must have only given them 5 dodgy decisions in a match so he must be replaced.
Hard to see how they can hold their heads up but I suppose they are used to strokes being pulled for them by now !!!

[FahyForever]

Well done to Claremorris who beat Westport B 3-2 in Milebush on Sunday to take the First Division double of league and cup. My prediction that the Westport defence could handle Derek Glynn was laughably inaccurate, particularly in the first half, when he caused absolute havoc, scoring all three goals and destroying the 'Port with his pace. Westport were better in the second half but a lack of pace throughout the team should be a cause for concern. The stormy weather did not help the match, but Claremorris should be happy with their season and be looking forword to the Premier division.

[johnmayo]

November sometime for the Touhy Cup final from the last I heard from John Durcan.

[gnasher]

Yeah, Well done to Claremorris. They were good for ten minutes of the first half which saw them get three goals. I don't think you should start knocking Westport B though mister Fahy, what silverware have ye got for your year of toil in the premier? I hear ye dumped the guy who brought ye from divison two to the premier in two years so unless you're awfully dumb or just stupidly confident I would not bother riling teams who will be facing your crowd of homeless weannabes next year. If you were at that game then maybe you failed to see the blatant offside for two of the goals your star Mister Glynn scored. Linesmen would want to get some B*LLS in Mayo and not just shirk responsibility.

Either way, it was a B team versus a full on town team. They'll meet again and have good battles, while ye'll still be wondering how far you could have gone if you'd kept a real manager.

[FahyForever]

In all fairness Gnasher I was not trying to knock Westport B in any way, if you looked at any of the previous posts I have written I have always been more than happy to see local teams doing well, particularly Westport, who I congratulated on behalf of our club when they achieved so much over the last year. So launching an attack on us seems pointless and a bit juvenile.
Also, Fahy Rovers never "dumped" any manager, he chose to leave of his own volition. AND, we got to the Premier division from the second in three years, not two. So if you want to accuse us of being "dumb" or "stupidly confident" you might as well get your facts correct first.
I was at the match last Sunday and I was aware that Glynn was offside for one of his goals anyway, but my point that he was too fast for the Westport defence still holds true.
Making comments like "ye'll still be wondering how far you could have gone if you'd kept a real manager" is childish and unnecessary. I was only commenting on the match and saying well done to the winners, as I would have done had ye won. Saying "it was a B team against a full on town team" is a petty excuse; it did not hold Castlebar B back against every other team in their division this year.
Any word on the Crossmolina V Ballinrobe divisional cup final??

[gnasher]

Apologies for not getting my sums right FahyForever, how could I have forgotten that golden year? It's just my childish forgetfulness.

You obviously did'nt hink it was worth mentioning to the forum that your manager had... (how can I put this more eloquently?).. jumped ship. You must not have too many tears for him. Did he leave because he failed to get ye to the superleague? I'm not asking for all intenal club info. to be posted just think there's more to this story than is being said.

Maybe the club were involved in positioning the ship so the jump would not be too far..... just my opinion.

If you still think I'm juvenile.....reply.

[FahyForever]

Gnasher, you seem to be fairly muddled on this topic. Your notion of our management is pretty different to mine! The manager who brought us out of the second division left midway through our third season. We got promoted to the Premier division at the end of that year. Regarding the season just gone, we started out with a joint management structure and then one man took over for the rest of the season. He resigned after our defeat to Crossmolina in the play-off. I hope this clears things up for you! Any dark motives suggested by yourself are off the mark, we have had two managers and both of them decided to resign of their own accord. Both are on good terms with the club.

[Manfred]

PLEASE TELL THIS PERSON WHO THE HELL THE PLAYER IS !!! AS THE HEANE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT THEIR PLAYERS AWAY FROM MAYO TEAMS IN THE PAST AM I TO PRESUME THIS IS TO CONTINUE INTO THE FUTURE !! AFTER ALL IS IT NOT EASIER TO GET INTO THE MAYO TEAM THAN CELTIC. WELL IT WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE
Hopefully we can put this one to bed, I'll ask the question in a different way:
is there a question mark over the age of the 'heane U12 keeper? Would that explain his absence from the county team? OR LETS JUST HAVE HIS NAME!
For the record he was the man of the match when Claremorris beat 'heane in the U12 league in Claremorris.
Nice to see Derek Glynn getting a run out with the oscar traynor squad; any thoughts on the strike force for the county team? D.Glynn & V.O'Malley?
D.O'Malley & M.Duffy. M.Duffy & D.Glynn?

[Manfred]

Tuohy cup final rumoured for Nov 13th. Oscar Traynor on 30th Oct. Nov 6 is R3 junior cup

[The Don]

Manfred found out the info you so badly needed!.
Evan J Mulgrew. b. 30/3/93.
So even by my calculations he would be..... I'll just leave that to you to figure out.
By all accounts a good keeper but not intercounty standard.

[Manfred]

Thanks to the Don, query put to bed - for the moment.
Back to the business on the pitch, how about this for a midfield -
Fergal Quinn, Eoin McCormack, Fergal Forde and James Burke? Burke wide left, F.Q on the right, two play makers in the middle, young & old!
Ballina T to do well.

[Fireball]

I'm surprised to hear James is returning. Any more apart from him and Eoin? Ian O'Dowd, maybe?

[Closed Account]

Snugboro 4-1 Achill

[The Stars]

, how about this for a midfield -
Fergal Quinn, Eoin McCormack, Fergal Forde and James Burke? .
played with McCormack and Burke with rovers a few years ago and both of them are class players,also O'Dowd has a lethal finish so they will do well.
BTW is David O'Mahoney playing soccer these days or just GAA?

[johnmayo]

Crossmolina 0-1 Westport United

One Down 11 to go

[gnasher]

Cross V The Port - not the type of classic encounter which it could have been as both teams were like two well drilled boxers who used the jab more often than the big hits. Westport survived the onslaught for the first quarter of an hour and then looked quite comfortable, or as comfy as you can look at nil all. Des O'Malley had a perfectly legal header ruled out after half an hour for infiringing the keeper, it looked as 50-50 as any challenge. It was just a matter of time before someone got a goal, but the surface just would not let it come in the normal fashion. It arrived after 80 odd minutes with Dessie slicing open the Cross defence for Vinny O'Malley to run on to it an bury a half volley past the Cross keeper. Fair result.

Think Cross will pose a few problems for Super Leagur teams up there this year. What a pitch!

Wetport level the scores in the 'Port V's Cross sports duel!

[gnasher]

Valley Rovers 0 - 6 Straide & Foxford United
Ballyheane 3 - 1 Ballyvary Blue Bombers
Fahy Rovers 4 - 1 Inver United
Bangor Hibs 2 - 1 Kiltimagh/Knock United
Clew Bay United 1 - 2 Claremorris
Glenisland United 8 - 7 Conn Rangers
Ballina Town 5 - 2 Partry Athletic
Castlebar United 4 - 5 Charlestown Athletic
Hollister 1 - 3 Glenhest Rovers
Ballyglass 0 - 1 Manulla
Crossmolina 0 - 1 Westport United
Castlebar Celtic 3 - 1 Erris United
Snugboro 4 - 1 Achill Rovers
Lacken United 5 - 6 Mulranny United
Kilmore 4 - 3 Ballinrobe Town
Moy Villa 2 - 5 Killala


Anyone at the fifteen goal thriller down in Glenisland?

[Unreal Madrid]

Valley Rovers 0 - 6 Straide & Foxford United
Ballyheane 3 - 1 Ballyvary Blue Bombers
Fahy Rovers 4 - 1 Inver United
Bangor Hibs 2 - 1 Kiltimagh/Knock United
Clew Bay United 1 - 2 Claremorris
Glenisland United 8 - 7 Conn Rangers
Ballina Town 5 - 2 Partry Athletic
Castlebar United 4 - 5 Charlestown Athletic
Hollister 1 - 3 Glenhest Rovers
Ballyglass 0 - 1 Manulla
Crossmolina 0 - 1 Westport United
Castlebar Celtic 3 - 1 Erris United
Snugboro 4 - 1 Achill Rovers
Lacken United 5 - 6 Mulranny United
Kilmore 4 - 3 Ballinrobe Town
Moy Villa 2 - 5 Killala


Anyone at the fifteen goal thriller down in Glenisland?

I would think that this was the score after peno's, same as the Castlebar Utd, Snugboro, Lacken & Kilmore games.

[The Don]

Was anyone at Manulla Ballyglass game, heard McGrath became centre of attention yet again in helping manulla win. Guess you were right mossy!

[unbiased]

Hi all

I am a new member into this forum. I have spent a number of years involved with my club at underage level and stilkl do even more than ever and this season have spent a good deal of time with junior soccer. All points in this forum are excellently raised and debated straight across the spectrum of mayo soccer particularly in relation to our apparent outdated league committee. I wish to make a few points, so please reply.

1-there seems to be many talkers on this forum that appear quite suitable to take an active role on a mayo league committee and are more tuned in than the existing one. SO WHY NO NEW PERSONNEL
2-Why is under 21 and kennedy cup teams the only main topic of any agenda at a league meeting
3- why cant mayo committees meet clubs individually over the winter months, have discussions with all involved in a club, advise and help rather than criticise and fine.
4- if mayo soccer is summer soccer why are all cup competitions in november
5-Surely there are more clubs in mayo than castlebar, westport, ballyheane etc
6-Does the current committee really have any power to enforce anything considering the amount of members actually left on it.

these are just a few points / questions i have at present just to introduce myself, there are many more to come, so if there is anyone out there like myself that thinks mayo soccer is one of the best leagues in the country, why arent clubs getting their value for money and skill.

[short_frank]

Valley Rovers 0 - 6 Straide & Foxford United
Ballyheane 3 - 1 Ballyvary Blue Bombers
Fahy Rovers 4 - 1 Inver United
Bangor Hibs 2 - 1 Kiltimagh/Knock United
Clew Bay United 1 - 2 Claremorris
Glenisland United 8 - 7 Conn Rangers
Ballina Town 5 - 2 Partry Athletic
Castlebar United 4 - 5 Charlestown Athletic
Hollister 1 - 3 Glenhest Rovers
Ballyglass 0 - 1 Manulla
Crossmolina 0 - 1 Westport United
Castlebar Celtic 3 - 1 Erris United
Snugboro 4 - 1 Achill Rovers
Lacken United 5 - 6 Mulranny United
Kilmore 4 - 3 Ballinrobe Town
Moy Villa 2 - 5 Killala


Anyone at the fifteen goal thriller down in Glenisland?

The Ballina Town v Partry Ath. game finished 4-2 to Ballina not 5-2 as quoted. Partry were 4-0 down at half time and were outplayed in the 1st half but they were a different team in the second half (despite their goalkeeper and 4 midfielders not being available for this match). This misprint was in the papers and on teletext.

[Manfred]

Nice to see interest in the games, 'Cross, W'port, 'boro, healty interest, scores discussed, the state of Crossmolina pitch (and they complained in the papers about the omnigrass!), and then we get "handbags" from Unbiased ! Here's a guy that has definatly been there.....and not gotten his way.
This is the first season that junior finals were not played in July. But if common sense prevails I would imagine that they will revert back to July for next season. Wonder where "U21 & Kennedy cup only main topic at league meetings" came from.
Definatly a lemming here! How many league meetings did you attend Mr.unbiased?
or....how long since you left the league?

[johnmayo]

Match Report
Cross westport match
http://www.crossmolinaafc.com/News/fr_news_intro.htm

[unbiased]

hi manfred

remembering football not personalities was once a quote of yours........

however, have not been there and never sought things my way, had attended quite a number of league meetings some years ago, has been mainly schoolboys & youths meetings since, that was probably where i heard kennedy cup and under 21's been mentioned so regularly.though getting back into the junior fold and have been at the few meetings this year.

one thing that has never changed is the passion and committment of players, volunteers and spectators that support each and individual club, no matter what the size or level of success.as a result, you have to forgive my frustration, not as you call it 'handbags', at the present state and the likely future of the mayo league. i am delighted to see many teams make great strides this year but there is a 'premiership' type of trend developing which i do not think would benefit every club in the league.lets face it unless you are extremely lucky as a club, many small clubs find junior football difficult to sustain and as usual it is the same faces there to lend a huge hand every season.the comfort of a club paying players and/or managers is a brilliant position to be in but what happens to the clubs that find it difficult to maintain even the basics for a season.dont get me wrong, every club would like to see success and rewards to their players at every level. but i have grave concerns at the direction and pace of which some clubs are going even without a comment or guideline from the mayo league ( well, at least i heard or seen nothing only in relation to the schoolboys transfers).

i do not wish to tread on footsteps in this forum, but from what i have read from the first post up until now is a congregation of people with the interests of soccer in mayo at heart and if new ideas and structures can be agreed for next season by all here contributing, it would be a major triumph and onre that would have to be looked at seriously by those in positions of power.

[The Don]

(and they complained in the papers about the omnigrass!),

Omnigrass is for training not for matchs. Nobody wants to play matchs on it, despite a famous quote by a Mayo league officer who said that" eircom & prem teams would be playing on them in 10 years". Welcome to old Trafford home of the omnigrass.