Richard Dunne

[paul_oshea]

Scram, are you saying then you would prefer robbie keane over michael owen?!

[irishfan86]

Scram, are you saying then you would prefer robbie keane over michael owen?!

I don't think it's that controversial of a statement, especially if we look at both players as they are right now.

Would you ever see Redknapp doing a straight swap deal with United for Owen? Never in a million years.

At his peak, I think most sensible people would have picked Owen, but he is well beyond that stage (still a decent finisher and he will score over 10 this year).

Ultimately, even though they're both strikers, they play completely different roles and have different skill-sets.

Better to compare Owen to Defoe, or Keane to Gerrard.

[boovidge]

It is not “English bashing” just to suggest the English media are biased towards English players, they are ABSOLUTELY. Even to the extent of the phrase “cheating foreigners”. The worst dive I ever saw was Gerrard v Hungary (I think ) and it was a friendly!, you don’t need to be reminded that Beckham was English and Mancurian Diving Champion long before Ronaldo ever played for MUFC…but it’s much easier to point to Johnny foreigner.

The English media treat their players the same way we treat ours ie they look at them through rose-tinted specs. It's hardly an English phenomenon.

As for diving, it's pretty clear that there's more of a "culture" of diving in countries such as Italy where it's even encouraged. I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to suggest that the influx of foreign players into the English game might have had some influence. That's not to say English players don't dive and are not responsible for their own actions.

[Scram]

Scram, are you saying then you would prefer robbie keane over michael owen?!

Eh, yes!

[Colbert Report]

I would prefer Robbie Keane to Michael Owen, no question.

[Stuttgart88]

The worst dive I ever saw was Gerrard v Hungary (I think ) and it was a friendly100% correct.

There's actually a piece on YouTube titled something like "Steven Gerrard Hypocrite" quoting Gerrard as saying that foreigners are bringing a diving culture to England and then showing a load of Gerrad's dives. Inexplicably, the Hungary dive was left out. Even the pundits were embarrassed.

[irishultra]

Any powerful nation(maby not Germany who think all their new teams are terrible) think their players are best. Its no coincidence that we say it about England which happen to be the country that Ireland gets its media from.
If history had been altered and we were speaking French, we would be saying the same thing about Les Bleus.

I remember that match by the way, after Ian Wright said 'well THEY do it so we should do'' :rolleyes:

[gilberto_eire]

i see City have agreed a fee for Lescott, will this mean the end of Dunne or is he still captain?(better chance he'll hold position if still captain)

[Stuttgart88]

Hard to know. They'll have splashed out over £40 million of 2 centre backs, yet as anyone knows, you need more than two CBs over the course of a season. Might be no harm for Dunne to have to up his game to stay in the team.

[eirebhoy]

Lescott will have to wait for a chance if Dunne stays as no manager is going to alter an on form defence. Either that or Dunne will be sold.

[rambler14]

i see City have agreed a fee for Lescott, will this mean the end of Dunne or is he still captain?(better chance he'll hold position if still captain)

He's still captain but if were to believe what we saw in pre-season he will be replaced by one Stephen Ireland if he leaves!

[tetsujin1979]

Still captain, was better than Toure in yesterday's game, according to some reports.

[Razors left peg]

Think it was Matt Le Tissier that was watching the City game for Soccer Saturday at the weekend and he made a point at one stage of saying that Dunne was outstanding in the game. Player of the year 4 seasons running at City and then one semi ok season and they want to dump him, football is incredible sometimes.Lescott has never put in a performance in his career like the one Richard Dunne did in Bulgaria or pretty much for all of the World Cup campaign,I dont care how much he costs Id have Dunne ahead of him any time. Its not that long ago that Lescott was being used by Everton as a left back because he wasnt able to break up the center half partnership at Everton, I wouldnt be totally surprised if that happened again at City because for me Wayne Bridge isnt a top class defender

[drummerboy]

Think Lescott is totally over-rated. However he is a left sided centre half of which there is a shortage. I think Dunne will do well if he goes to Villa or Everton.

[Colbert Report]

Dunne won't play again for Manchester City. I'd like to see him go to Everton or Aston Villa. I think he might end up at Portsmouth, the poor guy.

[drummerboy]

Dunne won't play again for Manchester City. I'd like to see him go to Everton or Aston Villa. I think he might end up at Portsmouth, the poor guy.

I think Spurs would have been the ideal move for him but I can't see him going to Portsmouth. O'Neill and Moyes will fight it out for him.

[Scram]

Think it was Matt Le Tissier that was watching the City game for Soccer Saturday at the weekend and he made a point at one stage of saying that Dunne was outstanding in the game. Player of the year 4 seasons running at City and then one semi ok season and they want to dump him, football is incredible sometimes.Lescott has never put in a performance in his career like the one Richard Dunne did in Bulgaria or pretty much for all of the World Cup campaign,I dont care how much he costs Id have Dunne ahead of him any time. Its not that long ago that Lescott was being used by Everton as a left back because he wasnt able to break up the center half partnership at Everton, I wouldnt be totally surprised if that happened again at City because for me Wayne Bridge isnt a top class defender

Yes, it was LeTissier. Still I fear that Dunne will be either let go or left on the bench.

Man City fans need to get behind him like MUFC "fans" did with Tevez (even though it had no effect - before some smart rs makes that point)

[dr_peepee]

I think Spurs would have been the ideal move for him but I can't see him going to Portsmouth. O'Neill and Moyes will fight it out for him.


Spurs already have King, Woodgate, Dawson and Bassong plus Corluka can play there... I doubt that's an option at this point unfortunately.

[tetsujin1979]

King can't play two games in a row, and Woodgate seems to be perpetually injured as well. Except for suspensions, Dunne's barely missed a game in 4 years

[eirebhoy]

You'd be crazy to think Hughes is going to drop one of their centre halves who have yet to concede a goal in 2 games. He may be sold but he certainly won't be on the bench for their game on Sunday (carling cup is a different matter).

[tetsujin1979]

You'd be crazy to think Hughes is going to drop one of their centre halves who have yet to concede a goal in 2 games. He may be sold but he certainly won't be on the bench for their game on Sunday (carling cup is a different matter).
3 if you count the midweek game against Barcelona

[an_ceannaire]

Anyone see SSN last night talking to City fans.....every last one of them said Centre Back is their problem child and Lescott and Toure is the solution. Dunnie has fallen very out of favour there. Surprised Moyes didnt make him part of the deal :confused:
but Dunne is less popular than tony coton at city these days

[tetsujin1979]

Had another look at MOTD last night, from the highlights of the City game, it seemed that Dunne was trying to cover for Toure whenever Wolves got a break

[Drumcondra 69er]

Anyone see SSN last night talking to City fans.....every last one of them said Centre Back is their problem child and Lescott and Toure is the solution. Dunnie has fallen very out of favour there. Surprised Moyes didnt make him part of the deal :confused:
but Dunne is less popular than tony coton at city these days

In fairness SSN seek out the most feeble minded idiots to get vox pops from as far as I can see, makes their target audience feel at home. A lot of the boards and newspaper forums are still very appreciative of what he's done and admit he's been playing well this season. There are a few stating otherwise alright but they're in a minority.

[eirebhoy]

Anyone see SSN last night talking to City fans.....every last one of them said Centre Back is their problem child and Lescott and Toure is the solution. Dunnie has fallen very out of favour there. Surprised Moyes didnt make him part of the deal :confused:
but Dunne is less popular than tony coton at city these days
Football fans are fickle. No different from any club.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Villa have made an official approach for Distin.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_5512770,00.html

Looks like Dunne won't be off to them anyway.

[Noelys Guitar]

Mark Hughes today
Quote:
12.25 Manchester City boss Mark Hughes admits defender Richard Dunne could attract more attention following the arrival of Joleon Lescott.

Skysports.com

[Maroon 7]

Anyone see SSN last night talking to City fans.....every last one of them said Centre Back is their problem child and Lescott and Toure is the solution. Dunnie has fallen very out of favour there. Surprised Moyes didnt make him part of the deal :confused:
but Dunne is less popular than tony coton at city these days

Eaten bread is soon forgotten.

[tetsujin1979]

Anyone see SSN last night talking to City fans.....every last one of them said Centre Back is their problem child and Lescott and Toure is the solution. Dunnie has fallen very out of favour there. Surprised Moyes didnt make him part of the deal :confused:
but Dunne is less popular than tony coton at city these days
read some of the comments on the article on Manchester Evening News: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_city/c/1133560_aston_villa_close_on_dunne?page_size=50#co mments
The general consensus seems to be that it's a shame he has to move, but in a World Cup year he needs first football, and he will be welcomed back by the fans

[geysir]

World cup year?
I like your unconditional positivity.

[tetsujin1979]

World cup year?
I like your unconditional positivity.
not my words, taken from the comments link above:

in World Cup year Dunne will want to be first choice

I think (especially with the world cup coming up) he will want to be playing regular first team football

Don't feel that his pride will allow him to stay on as bench warmer especially in World Cup year

World Cup year etc etc

Dunne needs regular football prior to the World Cup

in a world cup season all players will be thinking about impressing their international manager

[TerryPhelan]

I think a move to Villa will be as good as we can expect for Dunne now. He is right to move and has been treated pretty shabbily by City throughout. He will be assured of first team football at Villa, be part of a strong side who, unlike City, won't require time to gel in order to challenge for the top four places. The second best option is Everton, of course, but the arrival of Distin will probably stymie that. I for one would consider a move to these clubs a step up for Dunne and am hoping he moves for either as opposed to the likes of Sunderland.

[Colbert Report]

On the way for a medical at Portsmouth tonight...

[rambler14]

On the way for a medical at Portsmouth tonight...

Christ No! He may aswell sign for Ramblers:(

[kennedmc]

Portsmouth would be the worse move since Duff followed the money to Newcastle.

I love the "he'll need first team football in a world cup year" :D That right we're really Spain!!

Looking at alot of what those city fans are saying they seem to have the exact opposite opinion of what many Irish fans have said recently on this thread......

[tricky_colour]

On the way for a medical at Portsmouth tonight...


Really?

Have Villa decided to get rid of him so soon? :confused:


Aston Villa have agreed a fee with Manchester City for Richard Dunne, believed to be about £6m, and hope to follow up the signing of the Republic of Ireland centre-half with the acquisition of the Blackburn Rovers full-back Stephen Warnock.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/26/aston-villa-richard-dunne-transfer


Good move for Dunne.

[rebelmusic]

Really?

Have Villa decided to get rid of him so soon? :confused:


Aston Villa have agreed a fee with Manchester City for Richard Dunne, believed to be about £6m, and hope to follow up the signing of the Republic of Ireland centre-half with the acquisition of the Blackburn Rovers full-back Stephen Warnock.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/26/aston-villa-richard-dunne-transfer


Good move for Dunne.

Was reading that post and 3 workmates behind me went "yes!!", didnt realise they were reading my computer. Great news, at this point would prefer him there than at city, and if he's really given captaincy could be a huge boost of confidence for him

[Colbert Report]

Great move for Dunne. I'm delighted. I wasn't didn't fancy watching him sit on the bench until January at Man City.

[rebelmusic]

Looks it's defo on the way, the indo doesn't speculate as much as the english rags

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/villa-to-offer-dunne-captaincy-1870728.html

[Scram]

Really?

Have Villa decided to get rid of him so soon? :confused:


Aston Villa have agreed a fee with Manchester City for Richard Dunne, believed to be about £6m, and hope to follow up the signing of the Republic of Ireland centre-half with the acquisition of the Blackburn Rovers full-back Stephen Warnock.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/26/aston-villa-richard-dunne-transfer


Good move for Dunne.

I am no longer a City "fan" and I hope Villa kick their RSs. Hughes is a fool.

[eaststand85]

Looks it's defo on the way, the indo doesn't speculate as much as the english rags

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/villa-to-offer-dunne-captaincy-1870728.html

The Irish Times just printed almost word for word the same article as the English "Rag" Guardian (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0827/1224253336043.html). :)

Delighted with this move for Dunne if it goes through, this way he'll be part of a top team with a great manager (not a Villa fan btw) and far away from City when it all blows up and the various overinflated egos there start bickering!

[rebelmusic]

The Irish Times just printed almost word for word the same article as the English "Rag" Guardian (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0827/1224253336043.html). :)


My point was the indo probably wouldnt print it if it was utter speculation without any reliable sources. Anyway, moot point, great news

[Scram]

My point was the indo probably wouldnt print it if it was utter speculation without any reliable sources. Anyway, moot point, great news

The Sindo is a total RAG. You are much more likely to find valid news in the Guardian. I am amazed that anybody continues to support INM by buying the rag Sindo or the rag Herald.

Good move for Dunne, Well Dunne of Hughes. Will now watch Villa with interest.

[dr_peepee]

I wouldn't normally advocate a move of one of our players merely because some competition is brought in but I think he's better off moving on to a club like Villa..

City can go either way at this point, but I don't see them doing a Chelsea. Villa are a high profile club offering stability.

[donalmcdonagh]

Yes Yes yes....Im hope that deal goes through, I'm a villa fan and this exactly what we need. Its insane for City to get rid of Dunne, what a foolish mistake. Its because he is not a wholesale name and as marketable as the other players. To get rid of your captain and best player for 4 of the last 5 years is so wrong, they have lost a real leader, he is onyl 29 aswell, at least 3 more years left in him, and I believe his stock will rise over the next year particularly if we make it to SA. And now he has European footbal with Villa, it is actually a great move for him, Villa are a team full of proven premier league players with good balance and a proven manager. It will probably p!ss Dunne off but I think this will be a great move for him, hope it happens soon.

[Stuttgart88]

O'Neill also has a track record in getting the best out of his centre-backs.

Mjallby, Laursen...

What was the name of the guy he had at Leicester who went to Celtic for a season? Shaven headed, mad eyes. Name escapes me.

Curtis Davies is improving by all accounts too.

[endabob1]

Matt Elliott, always one of the first names in the fantasy football team in those days.

[Razors left peg]

Sky Sports news yellow breaking news banner at bottom of screen saying that Villa have agreed fee for Dunne

[irishultra]

Dissapointing.. They could very well be knocked out of Europe tonight.

Man City are a team on the rise, will probably finish in the top 4 this season.

[Razors left peg]

Dissapointing. Aston Villa look poor this season. They could very well be knocked out of Europe tonight.

They did alright in Anfield monday night!