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RonnieB
06/10/2009, 9:53 AM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/3579188/ nice header from the big man. Hope he gets one on Saturday!

eaststand85
06/10/2009, 9:57 AM
Was delighted to see Dunnie play so well, and that lack of celebration was another touch of class from the gentle giant,Defo the best centre back on the pitch last night and is shoulders above that lescott. Although dunnies distribution wasn’t great he knew it, lescott actually thinks he can play ball which is quite a travesty.

However having watched almost every city match in the last 2 years I do think he was alot more motivated as i honestly cant remember the last time he attacked a corner like that for us. Hopefully he will carry form/confidence into Saturday and slam one past the Italians

Can't think of any corners off the top of my head but he's certainly attacked free kicks very well for us as evidenced by goals home and away against Bulgaria.

Bluebeard
06/10/2009, 10:02 AM
Such a change in the ten years of Dunner at Man City - give Keegan his due for believing in him, and Dunner the credit for picking his career up and setting it right. I hope Villa and O'Neill prove a happy new home for him for a good few years to come.


On Sky Sports:-

£25 million Lescott awarded a 5
£6 Dunne awarded a 9.


slightly off topic but £25 million for Lescott has to be the most ridiculous transfer fee ever in a sport of crazy transfer fees!!

In fairness, I think £6 is even more ridiculous. £6 million would be undervaluing IMO, but £6 is an insult:eek:

seanfhear
06/10/2009, 10:30 AM
Such a change in the ten years of Dunner at Man City - give Keegan his due for believing in him, and Dunner the credit for picking his career up and setting it right. I hope Villa and O'Neill prove a happy new home for him for a good few years to come.






Irelands supporters owe a debt of gratitude to Keegan for how he handled Dunne back then. Good man management there and well done to Dunne for taking his 2/3 chance.

SuperDave
06/10/2009, 2:42 PM
Irelands supporters owe a debt of gratitude to Keegan for how he handled Dunne back then. Good man management there and well done to Dunne for taking his 2/3 chance.

I would say 'Kevin Keegan' and 'man management' don't belong in the same sentence, but you appear to have deftly sidestepped that particular faux pas.

English managers in general have failed at that in the last while.... Glenda in particular.

Drumcondra 69er
06/10/2009, 2:57 PM
I would say 'Kevin Keegan' and 'man management' don't belong in the same sentence, but you appear to have deftly sidestepped that particular faux pas.

English managers in general have failed at that in the last while.... Glenda in particular.

Think man management was the one thing Keegan was good at to be fair. Certainly worked with Richard Dunne, handled him very well when many others would have given up on him.

Stuttgart88
06/10/2009, 3:36 PM
When you look at how many players we've "lost" through injury / madness / attitude such as Thornton, Sadlier, Ireland and lots lots more (Dixon & J. O'Brien hopefully will recover) I think we can be thankful that another who may have slipped away was given the chance tio get back on track, and took it.

seanfhear
06/10/2009, 5:41 PM
Think man management was the one thing Keegan was good at to be fair. Certainly worked with Richard Dunne, handled him very well when many others would have given up on him.I would agree with you there. I would say that Keegans big weakness was tactical naievety

soccerboy
06/10/2009, 6:34 PM
ya dunne has done brilliantly to turn his career around,i thought he was finished when he was turfed out of everton...he is now ireland's most consistent performer,man city treated him badly,lescott is a bit over rated in my opinion,villa did well to get him for 6mill

tetsujin1979
07/10/2009, 12:03 AM
ya dunne has done brilliantly to turn his career around,i thought he was finished when he was turfed out of everton...he is now ireland's most consistent performer,man city treated him badly,lescott is a bit over rated in my opinion,villa did well to get him for 6mill
Turfed out?? He was sold for 3m, which is massive money for a 21 year old. Joe Royle gave him his debut at Everton, and bought him for City.

OwlsFan
07/10/2009, 10:45 AM
Muted, and he was applauded by both sets of supporters
in contrast Barry was booed throughout and the crowd waved fake £50 notes with his picture on them at him

As centre halfs go Dunne has a good scoring record for Ireland. 1 about every 8 games.

M@ttitude
07/10/2009, 1:41 PM
Dunne sat out training today with a strain.... Hopeful to be fit to face Italy.

richieos
07/10/2009, 1:44 PM
Dunne sat out training today with a strain.... Hopeful to be fit to face Italy.

unless richard dunne breaks both of his legs, hes going to be playing against italy

Soccer Mom
07/10/2009, 2:46 PM
unless richard dunne breaks both of his legs, hes going to be playing against italy

I heard Liam Brady on the radio earlier. He is confident that Dunne and St Leger (he's getting treatment for a stiff leg) will both be fit for the Italy match. He's still holding out some hope that Duff will make the Montengro match.

richieos
04/11/2009, 4:00 PM
Don't worry lads, no injuries to report.

Richard Dunne has taken a position as an ambassador for the FAI, shows how strongly he feels about Irish football.

http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/News/dunne-not-dusted.aspx

Brian Boru
05/11/2009, 3:55 PM
Richard Dunne is a far superior player to Lescott. That decision by Mark Hughes proves he's a poor manager. He'll be sacked within 6 months. Dunne is a legend.

geysir
05/11/2009, 4:10 PM
You'd wonder where would City be in the table if they had not upgraded their goalkeeper.

magnumpi
05/11/2009, 4:17 PM
Richard Dunne is a far superior player to Lescott. That decision by Mark Hughes proves he's a poor manager. He'll be sacked within 6 months. Dunne is a legend.

i was under the impression that it wasn't a hughes decision but totally one made by the Arabs/board running the place.

do you remember that quote from some board member saying "names like Richard Dunne don't exactly trip off the tongue in Asia" or something like that.

Basically, they wanted to bring in as many "big names" as possible (Lescott would get recognition abroad, playing for England) and so that's why Dunne was ousted.

might be completely wrong, but i thought that was what it was about....


any fool with two eyes can see Dunne is way better than Lescott.

Brian Boru
05/11/2009, 4:24 PM
You'd wonder where would City be in the table if they had not upgraded their goalkeeper.

in big trouble. I don't care about City anyway but I did hear interesting theory about Dunnes relative drop in form last year. Only when playing for City mind you. He's always been Irelands most commited. When he plays well he's playing flat out and leaves nothing on the pitch. If he takes his foot off the pedal slightly his performances dip disproportionately. Last year he sees inferior less commited players coming in getting paid multiples of what he's paid. Understandably his dedication goes to more normal levels and the performances become more ordinary.

Anyhow he's better off at Villa. He doesn't have to put up with Stephen Ireland and he continues to be an Irish legend.

Brian Boru
05/11/2009, 4:29 PM
i was under the impression that it wasn't a hughes decision but totally one made by the Arabs/board running the place.

do you remember that quote from some board member saying "names like Richard Dunne don't exactly trip off the tongue in Asia" or something like that.

Basically, they wanted to bring in as many "big names" as possible (Lescott would get recognition abroad, playing for England) and so that's why Dunne was ousted.

might be completely wrong, but i thought that was what it was about....


any fool with two eyes can see Dunne is way better than Lescott.

You're probably right. Anyways it shows Hughes to be of weak character allowing a bunch of oil barons without Football knowledge to dictate team affairs. Therefor he's still a brutal manager. However, given that he's a yes man he might last longer than 6 months, maybe 9!

irishfan86
05/11/2009, 6:25 PM
i was under the impression that it wasn't a hughes decision but totally one made by the Arabs/board running the place.

do you remember that quote from some board member saying "names like Richard Dunne don't exactly trip off the tongue in Asia" or something like that.

Basically, they wanted to bring in as many "big names" as possible (Lescott would get recognition abroad, playing for England) and so that's why Dunne was ousted.

might be completely wrong, but i thought that was what it was about....


any fool with two eyes can see Dunne is way better than Lescott.

That quote about Richard Dunne rolling off the tongue was said by the previous owner or one of his staff (Shinawatra).

I honestly think that Hughes has full control, and that he simply made a very bad decision in this case.

Signing Given for example isn't going for a "big name" even though we all know he's one of the best in the world here.

Razors left peg
05/11/2009, 7:02 PM
That quote about Dunne came from the Chairman Gary Cook after Shinawatra took over last year. He was talking about sellin shirts in Asia

paul_oshea
05/11/2009, 7:04 PM
ya but where are the arabs from?! Asia, and id say they buy a lot mroe shirts there htan they do in poorer countries like thailand etc...

Razors left peg
05/11/2009, 7:08 PM
ya but where are the arabs from?! Asia, and id say they buy a lot mroe shirts there htan they do in poorer countries like thailand etc...

Even though the quote came out before the Arabs took over once that was said by the clubs chairman Dunne was always going to be under pressure when Man City became a world wide commercial product. Cook is a clown, as he proved with the Kaka affair, but his opinion would have been taken by the Arabs when it came time to talk about how they were going to make money

irishfan86
05/11/2009, 7:09 PM
ya but where are the arabs from?! Asia, and id say they buy a lot mroe shirts there htan they do in poorer countries like thailand etc...

Yeah but we can't blame the Arabs for a comment made by Gary Cook, can we?

I honestly think Hughes has full control and just made a balls of it in regards to Dunne.

And although Dunne has been very good for us, and was good for City in the first couple of matches, I think that Dunne had one of his worst seasons in recent memory last term, and this is the reason why City wanted a replacement.

I also think that new managers generally like to install their own captain unless they're absolutely world class, so that they can stamp their own image on the team.

Not the way I would have done it, but I think Dunne was sold for footballing reasons, not commercial ones. I don't think Toure or Lescott are ridiculously marketable in reality...

Scram
07/11/2009, 5:56 PM
Very clear today for any doubters, how much Citybank miss Dunner. Absolutely pathtetic at the back with no leader.

Having said that it also showed the risk in playing a full attacking midfiels no matter how low you rate the opposition i.e. he played the wretch Stephen Ireland instead of DeJonge.

Come next May, Hughes job may be history based on the Dunne decision because that's where the real failure is.

ps. The Muppet Pat Dolan was on Setanta blaming Shay Given for not organising the defence!!

Razors left peg
07/11/2009, 6:24 PM
Very clear today for any doubters, how much Citybank miss Dunner. Absolutely pathtetic at the back with no leader.

Having said that it also showed the risk in playing a full attacking midfiels no matter how low you rate the opposition i.e. he played the wretch Stephen Ireland instead of DeJonge.

Come next May, Hughes job may be history based on the Dunne decision because that's where the real failure is.

ps. The Muppet Pat Dolan was on Setanta blaming Shay Given for not organising the defence!!

How that man gets a job talking about football is beyond me. He was ranting in the Star yesterday that because Pat Fenlon is a manger in the league of Ireland he will never get a chance to become the national team manager... he has a very short memory, Brian Kerr and Eoin Hand both League of Ireland managers. The man is a complete joker

FarBeag
07/11/2009, 7:41 PM
Delighted they only got a draw simply for the fact that Ireland was playing and that they brought in someone who is no where near the footballer Dunne is.

I feel sorry for Shay though because every club he has played with, the back four do him no favours whatsoever.

carloz
07/11/2009, 8:53 PM
Very clear today for any doubters, how much Citybank miss Dunner. Absolutely pathtetic at the back with no leader.

Having said that it also showed the risk in playing a full attacking midfiels no matter how low you rate the opposition i.e. he played the wretch Stephen Ireland instead of DeJonge.

Come next May, Hughes job may be history based on the Dunne decision because that's where the real failure is.

ps. The Muppet Pat Dolan was on Setanta blaming Shay Given for not organising the defence!!

Just the usual patethic Dolan ****. God bless him he just tries to be controversial. 22 million was spent on Lescott, 16 million was spent on Toure. If they want to defend like they are playing in the local park then there is **** all Given can do.

irishfan86
07/11/2009, 9:11 PM
I remember Dolan criticizing Given for a long run of games where Newcastle didn't get a clean sheet last season as if it was his fault.

Haven't paid attention to him since. Literally change the channel when I see his face on Setanta.

Supreme feet
07/11/2009, 10:06 PM
I remember Dolan criticizing Given for a long run of games where Newcastle didn't get a clean sheet last season as if it was his fault.

Haven't paid attention to him since. Literally change the channel when I see his face on Setanta.

He's an incompetent, sensationalist troglodyte who says things for shock value; like a less articulate, fat version of Dunphy. Can't stand him.

Murfinator
08/11/2009, 5:09 PM
All true but he's more knowledgeable than Dunphy which makes his extreme slants somewhat interesting since there's a small element of truth to them. Dunphy just throws together criticisms on limited and often times false pieces of information making his comments worthless.

You'd never hear Dolan claiming Fahey is a full back for example, the man actually knows his ****.

Scram
09/11/2009, 12:05 PM
I remember Dolan criticizing Given for a long run of games where Newcastle didn't get a clean sheet last season as if it was his fault.

Haven't paid attention to him since. Literally change the channel when I see his face on Setanta.

Oh yes he did say "he couldn't manage his back four at Newcastle either"...what a t00l!

I agreed with Dolan once :o I can't remember what it was but felt that I must be wrong!!

Stuttgart88
09/11/2009, 12:20 PM
You'd never hear Dolan claiming Fahey is a full back for example, the man actually knows his ****.I think he was getting confused with Foley, but point taken.

tetsujin1979
11/11/2009, 10:14 AM
Dunne interview in the Guardian criticising Domenech: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/11/world-cup-republic-of-ireland-france

IIRC Domenech was linked with the Celtic job at one point, possibly after Wim Jansen left.

Junior
11/11/2009, 10:56 AM
Anyone got any footage of the Paris Masters incident? I had a quick scan on youtube but found nothing (then again I can never find stuff on there!!)

Stuttgart88
11/11/2009, 11:12 AM
Not sure Dunne's criticism is wise.

Junior
11/11/2009, 11:20 AM
Not sure Dunne's criticism is wise.

Any criticism of the opposition needs to be kept behind the dressing room doors and the Captain needs to set the example. Robbies remarks pre the North London Derby didnt exactly help his side.....

rambler14
11/11/2009, 11:25 AM
Anyone got any footage of the Paris Masters incident? I had a quick scan on youtube but found nothing (then again I can never find stuff on there!!)

What happened there???

Junior
11/11/2009, 11:27 AM
In the article link above, the French public booed Domenech and some of the squad players were smirking aparently.

Closed Account
11/11/2009, 11:30 AM
Anyone got any footage of the Paris Masters incident? I had a quick scan on youtube but found nothing (then again I can never find stuff on there!!)
No sound on PC but I fear this may be in french....
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Junior
11/11/2009, 11:33 AM
Cheers. Yeah thats it. Its in French but you can hear the jeers loud and clear. Henry having a wry smile, though in fairness so is Domenech. Hard to tell whether this suggests lack of respect for the manager - though Im sure it exists amongst some.

SwanVsDalton
11/11/2009, 11:52 AM
Don't see the problem tbh. He isn't wrong and is merely displaying the fearlessness that'll be needed to win. Moreover everyone and their dog knows the French can have suspect tempraments. If the pressure is raised a little bit, I think it can only help us.

Ireland don't indulge in mind games very often, maybe it'll reinforce our resolve. Although, I agree, it's risky. But it's all or nothing now lads.

rambler14
19/11/2009, 12:19 PM
He's after getting into a nasty habit of letting the ball bounce as it's coming to him. He got caught out at Croker around 3 times Saturday and last night was lucky to get away with the same. Even for the French "goal" the original ball into the box by Malouda was allowed to bounce in the box and it was Dunne who it bounced over!

Other than that he was very solid and attacking last night.

dr_peepee
19/11/2009, 12:21 PM
He's after getting into a nasty habit of letting the ball bounce as it's coming to him. He got caught out at Croker around 3 times Saturday and last night was lucky to get away with the same. Even for the French "goal" the original ball into the box by Malouda was allowed to bounce in the box and it was Dunne who it bounced over!

Other than that he was very solid and attacking last night.

Watch it again. The French guy (skilachy????) Was swinging out of the neck of his jersey. Another that the linesman didn't see...

Emmet7
19/11/2009, 12:23 PM
He's after getting into a nasty habit of letting the ball bounce as it's coming to him. He got caught out at Croker around 3 times Saturday and last night was lucky to get away with the same. Even for the French "goal" the original ball into the box by Malouda was allowed to bounce in the box and it was Dunne who it bounced over!

Other than that he was very solid and attacking last night.

You know I think that's how John O'Shea picked up his injury. Dunne let it bounce over him and O'Shea really had to stretch to stop Henry from scoring and he also ran into Given. I have a feeling he did himself damage in that tackle but I could be wrong. It wasn't long after that when he had to be taken off.

Emmet7
19/11/2009, 12:26 PM
Watch it again. The French guy (skilachy????) Was swinging out of the neck of his jersey. Another that the linesman didn't see...

Schillachy was clearly interfering and obstrucing Dunne and probably fouling him so he was clearly interfering with play.

I don't blame the referee as much as the linesman.

He had only one big call to make in the game, deciding if the goal was legitimate or not and he made a complete b*lls of it.

He missed the player returning from an offside position and interfering with play, he missed the foul and obstruction on Dunne, he missed the first handball and he missed the second handball.

Catastrophic officiating from the linesman.

tricky_colour
20/12/2009, 4:56 PM
Mark Hughs sacked today.
He hit out about the manner of his dismissal, I am not sure if that is ironic or not when
you see how the club treated Dunne, I am not sure if Huges wanted Dunne to go though, it sounds like it was a decision forced upon him by the club.
Anyway with Villa fourth and 6 points above Man City, the decision to sell does not look a brilliant one, whoever made it.

Acornvilla
20/12/2009, 5:39 PM
Mark Hughs sacked today.
He hit out about the mammer of his dismissal, I am not sure if that is ironic or not when
you see how the club treated Dunne, I am not sure if Huges wnated Dunne to go though, it sounds like it was a decision forced upon him by the club.
Anyway with Villa fourth and 6 points above Man City, the decision to sell does not look a brilliant one, whoever made it.
not a bad move for dunny thou :D

seanfhear
20/12/2009, 5:57 PM
Richard Dunnes exit from Man City takes a bit of explaining though.

With the money City have they could have brought in the players that they have kept Richard Dunne and made it clear that Richard had to fight for his place.

Didn't the club spin some tale to Richard that they needed the money:rolleyes: which Richard :p at.

Some one (?) wanted Dunny out of City. Mark Hughes did not put much effort trying to keep him and when you consider that Richard was by far and away the best player at the club for 3 out of the 4 previous years then that shows a lack of appreciation/loyalty from the higher echelons of that club.

When a club pays what they did for Robinho then some ones judgement is HIGHLY suspect. (okay i know it was a rushed deal but surely Hughes should have said NO)