Richard Dunne

[seanfhear]

Was he at his best playing with Distin or is Distin gone longer than I realise.

He is playing with some young and inexperienced players at city and maybe he is trying to do too much.
Mark Hughes likes his teams to be hard and physical so this does put you under more pressure of yellow and red cards.
This and the powder puff, from helping the defence point of view forwards that city have put a lot of pressure on the defence.
I am not sure if a certain Mr Trappatoni would have many of those city forwards on his team if he was buying/choosing players for a premiership team.
Chelsea had a lucky escape that Robinho choose the big cash and went to city.
He is not good enough that he does not have to do the ordinary stuff that normal players do. Often the really top players will do most of the ordinary stuff with the special stuff as well.

[drummerboy]

Dunne is having a very poor season by his own high standards. He kept getting done out on the touchline, don't know why he kept getting dragged out there. Richards seemed to go missing a lot of the time. City were like a disorganised schoolboy team. Ireland had a very poor game. I'm not sure Trap would play him if he was available.

[geysir]

I only saw the second half and thought Dunne looked sound.

Fair dues to Jol, he has a good attractive team despite the shakes in defense.
I like the way the Hamburg players just sat down facing their fans at the end, milking it in.

[an_ceannaire]

For all the transfer talk at the start of the year, if he went on sale tomorrow no one in the top eight would want him considering what they already have. And figures of 10m would be laughed at. Bloody shame. Looked like he really could have stepped up to the Vidic mark at one stage last season.

[paul_oshea]

does anyone fear that he might be get sent off for us in a really big game? or is he more composed/confident playing for us?!

[Lionel Ritchie]

Dunne is a very fine player having a poor season by, as someone else has said, his own high standards. He was vulnerable last night having been booked early on.

There'll doubtless be some hysterics ...but they are just that.

[tetsujin1979]

does anyone fear that he might be get sent off for us in a really big game? or is he more composed/confident playing for us?!
I think having O'Shea beside him means he has less to do, which makes him more composed. At City, he's been covering for Richards (who's regressed massively) and Onuoha (who's still very inexperienced) whereas with Ireland, O'Shea is far more confident.

[The Legend]

I think having O'Shea beside him means he has less to do, which makes him more composed. At City, he's been covering for Richards (who's regressed massively) and Onuoha (who's still very inexperienced) whereas with Ireland, O'Shea is far more confident.

I agree, but I am imagining... if you said that a year ago, you'd have been placed in a nuthouse.

[eirebhoy]

Dunne will be back to his best once City sort out their team. He's having to deal with way too much because of a very unbalanced midfield. Too often they lose possession and it's left to the defence to deal with. They need someone to dominate midfield. They've defensive midfielders and attacking midfielders. Nobody like a Gareth Barry or our very own Steven Reid to dominate a game from the centre. Ireland doesn't dictate many games despite what some people think.

[Predator]

I used to always think that Dunne was a liability at the back. I used to joke to my friends that his name should be 'Dunnekey', but he ended up having a great few seasons with Man City and the Ireland defence always looks suspect without him. I hope he can return to form sooner rather than later!

[irishfan86]

I agree that his amount of sending offs is down to the way the Man City defense is exposed.

There are so many times during a game when it's 3 attackers vs 3 man city defenders, or 2 on 2.

That situation always favours the attackers, and Dunne is not the kind of player to let a player past him.

With Trapattoni's defensive system, these sort of situations are a lot more rare.

This means we won't necessarily create as many opportunities as Man City, but we won't allow near the amount of counter-attacks they do, thus allowing Dunne to be more comfortable with his duties.

[Junior]

His sending off on Thurs was down to his own recklessness and nothing to do with covering for a poorly balanced midfield. Im not saying that has not been a factor to his bookings/sending offs over the course of the season but that is not the full story.

[irishfan86]

The Sun, that bastion of credibility, is linking Dunne with a move to Sunderland.

No doubt Sunderland would want him (assuming they stay up), but would Dunne leave?

If there's any way he can stick with City, he should try, as with a few more big signings and a smartening up of tactics/formation on Hughes part, the blue side of Manchester could find themselves fighting for a Champions League spot in a year or two.

The number being thrown around is a paltry 4 million pounds.

[Stuttgart88]

Arsenal could do worse, especially for that money.

[Den Perry]

The Sun, that bastion of credibility, is linking Dunne with a move to Sunderland.

No doubt Sunderland would want him (assuming they stay up), but would Dunne leave?

If there's any way he can stick with City, he should try, as with a few more big signings and a smartening up of tactics/formation on Hughes part, the blue side of Manchester could find themselves fighting for a Champions League spot in a year or two.

The number being thrown around is a paltry 4 million pounds.

Sunderland are a club going no where since Keane left. If they are not relegated this season then they will next year unless they change manager and a host of players. Dunne should stay at City if he can. He hasn't been playing well recently but I think thats down to his defensive partners also...

[jbyrne]

sure even vidic has had 3 reds for utd this season and he's favourite for POTY. man city are all over the place and central defenders are always the ones most likely to suffer in such situations. dunne has been immense for us and thats all that really matters

[Closed Account]

dunne has been immense for us and thats all that really matters
Hear hear.

[SunderlandBohs]

Sunderland are a club going no where since Keane left. If they are not relegated this season then they will next year unless they change manager and a host of players. Dunne should stay at City if he can. He hasn't been playing well recently but I think thats down to his defensive partners also...
Are you Pat Dolan? More Keano crap!!! We're 4 places better off since he left. The story is complete load of non-sense. Sbairga won't be manager in the summer. FACT. So why is he signing players? It would be a great move for Dunne as we are heading in the right direction under Short and Quinn. Despite what the Keano loving media say.

[irishfan86]

Are you Pat Dolan? More Keano crap!!! We're 4 places better off since he left. The story is complete load of non-sense. Sbairga won't be manager in the summer. FACT. So why is he signing players? It would be a great move for Dunne as we are heading in the right direction under Short and Quinn. Despite what the Keano loving media say.

Eh....Quinn came out and said Sbragia will be the manager next season...FACT.

And despite the fact that chairmen say this sort of stuff all the time, I know that Quinn isn't that sort of guy- he means what he says.

If Sbragia isn't manager of Sunderland next season, it will be his choice, not the club's.

It's hard to say what direction Sunderland are going- Drumaville are only minor players now that the Irish economy has collapsed, and Short, while playing a key financial role, doesn't have the same ambitions or commitment to providing funds that Drumaville had pre-recession.

I feel that they can kick on to be a solid mid-table club if the right moves are made and they get a bit of fortune, but the fact that nobody (good) would sign for them when they were throwing money around means that whoever is managing them will have their work cut out attracting players let alone affording them.

[SunderlandBohs]

Eh....Quinn came out and said Sbragia will be the manager next season...FACT.


And despite the fact that chairmen say this sort of stuff all the time, I know that Quinn isn't that sort of guy- he means what he says.

If Sbragia isn't manager of Sunderland next season, it will be his choice, not the club's.

It's hard to say what direction Sunderland are going- Drumaville are only minor players now that the Irish economy has collapsed, and Short, while playing a key financial role, doesn't have the same ambitions or commitment to providing funds that Drumaville had pre-recession.


I feel that they can kick on to be a solid mid-table club if the right moves are made and they get a bit of fortune, but the fact that nobody (good) would sign for them when they were throwing money around means that whoever is managing them will have their work cut out attracting players let alone affording them.

Chairman in support of manager shocker!!

The dogs in the street know he won't be the manager next season. Quinn said it was only a half way house option and will be viewed in the summer.

As for Dunne, he is just a good Premier League player. This talk of Arsenal or Man U should sign him is a joke.

If the rumours are true and Sven Goran Eriksson will be in charge at the SoL next season this story mind be true. But you can't believe everything you read.

Hughes doesn't rate Dunne and has money to burn. Dickie will be one of many Citeh players shown the door. Sure, wouldn't it be better for him to be first team football at Sunderland than warming the bench at Eastlands next season?

[Stuttgart88]

As for Dunne, he is just a good Premier League player. This talk of Arsenal should sign him is a joke.
Arsenal regularly get bullied at CB. Last night, last weekend...

He's a good player that'd suit Arsenal's financial constraints at the £4m mentioned (looks cheap though) and would add steel where it's needed. Just my opinion.

[tetsujin1979]

Hughes doesn't rate Dunne and has money to burn. Dickie will be one of many Citeh players shown the door. Sure, wouldn't it be better for him to be first team football at Sunderland than warming the bench at Eastlands next season?If Hughes didn't rate Dunne, he would have brought in someone during the transfer window to replace him.
He didn't rate Garrido or Ball, so he brought in Bridge
He didn't rate Jo/Bojinov/Sturridge/etc up front so he brought in Bellamy
He didn't think Hart was up to it, so he brought in Given

He's dropped Richards, Hamann and Vassell amongst others, yet has stuck with Dunne at centre half, despite scoring two OG's and being sent off three times this season. He's started every game he's been inolved in (41 out of 51 total), only Ireland and Robinho have started more in the City squad.

[SunderlandBohs]

Dunne at centre half, despite scoring two OG's and being sent off three times this season.

I think you answered your own question there. If City want to break into the Champions League then the likes of Duune,Vassell, Hamman and Ball. They are good players but not CL players. Hughes has been trying to get a centre half in but hasn't got one yet.

[Uncle_Joe]

Hasn't Richard Dunne won the Man City player of the year for the last 4 years. Didnt hughes himself talk Dunne into staying at City, after the player expressed a desire to leave.

Dunne is of high enough quality to play in the champions league, although city need another Centre Back I dont see Dunne leaving. The guy has played consistantly well for 4 years and is having a bad season in a team that is all over the place.

If Hughes stays at City, then Dunne will stay and If Hughes leaves City then any new manager will proabably keep Dunne.

[tetsujin1979]

I think you answered your own question there. If City want to break into the Champions League then the likes of Duune,Vassell, Hamman and Ball. They are good players but not CL players. Hughes has been trying to get a centre half in but hasn't got one yet.
The only centre half I can remember City being linked to is Cannavaro, and there's no way Hughes is going to sign him

[Den Perry]

Are you Pat Dolan? More Keano crap!!! We're 4 places better off since he left. The story is complete load of non-sense. Sbairga won't be manager in the summer. FACT. So why is he signing players? It would be a great move for Dunne as we are heading in the right direction under Short and Quinn. Despite what the Keano loving media say.


How many places are you better off than finishing position last season? I'm a Keane fan, but I'm not sure about his signings...all I'm saying is that Sunderland are a club going nowhere but downwards unless they get a host of new players...and richard Dunne would be off his head to go there unless there are serious changes

[Den Perry]

Hasn't Richard Dunne won the Man City player of the year for the last 4 years. Didnt hughes himself talk Dunne into staying at City, after the player expressed a desire to leave.

Dunne is of high enough quality to play in the champions league, although city need another Centre Back I dont see Dunne leaving. The guy has played consistantly well for 4 years and is having a bad season in a team that is all over the place.

If Hughes stays at City, then Dunne will stay and If Hughes leaves City then any new manager will proabably keep Dunne.

I think people are being harsh on Dunne. He has made mistakes this season but we mustn't forget trhe fact that he is babysitting the likes of Onuha and Richards...in fact Bridge has been a big disappointment also. I'm not saying none of it is his own fault but the guys playing there with him are poor

Given has gone from the fat into the frying pan with regards to the defence in front of him....

[Scram]

I think people are being harsh on Dunne. He has made mistakes this season but we mustn't forget trhe fact that he is babysitting the likes of Onuha and Richards...in fact Bridge has been a big disappointment also. I'm not saying none of it is his own fault but the guys playing there with him are poor

Given has gone from the fat into the frying pan with regards to the defence in front of him....

A lot of Honey Monster's mistakes are out on the right wing covering for Richards etc. but still, at his level he should be looking before he leaps in a lot of instances.

[SunderlandBohs]

How many places are you better off than finishing position last season? I'm a Keane fan, but I'm not sure about his signings...all I'm saying is that Sunderland are a club going nowhere but downwards unless they get a host of new players...and richard Dunne would be off his head to go there unless there are serious changes
Is wanting to sign Dunne not a sign of moving in the right direction? By looking to appoint a top class manager with premier experience i.e Sven, Curbs or Houllier looking to better ourselves? It'll take a good year for the new man to clean up the mess Keane left behind in which in all fairness Sbriga has done to a certain point. Ricky's main task was to keep us up. We're no better than last year and thats down to Keane and Quinn's poor decesion making.

It's funny how in England people believe Sunderland can go places if we can stay up but it's the opposite over cause the great keano bottled it and ran away. Again!!

I just think Hughes looks at Dunne more as a liabilty than an asset. Maybe it's not to Hughes but the board to sell Dunne. Maybe Hughes is a bad judge of a player. He does want Samba.

[Den Perry]

Is wanting to sign Dunne not a sign of moving in the right direction? By looking to appoint a top class manager with premier experience i.e Sven, Curbs or Houllier looking to better ourselves? It'll take a good year for the new man to clean up the mess Keane left behind in which in all fairness Sbriga has done to a certain point. Ricky's main task was to keep us up. We're no better than last year and thats down to Keane and Quinn's poor decesion making.

It's funny how in England people believe Sunderland can go places if we can stay up but it's the opposite over cause the great keano bottled it and ran away. Again!!

I just think Hughes looks at Dunne more as a liabilty than an asset. Maybe it's not to Hughes but the board to sell Dunne. Maybe Hughes is a bad judge of a player. He does want Samba.


I agree Ericson, curbishly or Houllier would indicate a step in the right direction, as would signing Dunne...but at the moment that's hearsay.

Agree with you about Samba also. Its amazing some of the defenders that are rated highly by media etc that are absolutely brutal eg Corluka, Wheater,

[tricky_colour]

Dunne is back in the Actim index at no. 82 ahead of Man U regular John O'Shea,(84) I expect he will continue to climb, provided he keeps the own goals in single figures.:cool:

[Junior]

slightly off topic, but have City tried Kompany at CB alongsde Dunne? When he broke through at Anderlecht as a youngster Im sure he played at CB and looked very impressive. City fans I know have certainly been disappointed with Richards this season, Im not sure about Onhuah (sp?)......

[tetsujin1979]

slightly off topic, but have City tried Kompany at CB alongsde Dunne? When he broke through at Anderlecht as a youngster Im sure he played at CB and looked very impressive. City fans I know have certainly been disappointed with Richards this season, Im not sure about Onhuah (sp?)......
Yeah, they played together in the centre of defence for a handful of games around January, when Richards and Onuoha were both unavailable. Kompany was signed primarily as a defensive central midfielder, and that's where he's played for the vast majority of his time so far at Eastlands.
Onuoha's done far better since he's come back than Richards has been all season. Think the whole "next Ferdinand/Cannavaro/Maldini" tag that was assigned to him when he broke into the side at 18 got to his head a bit

[tetsujin1979]

Kompany is a class act when he's been a centre back and made Dunne look a million times better when he was beside him. Since they signed De Jong I reckon the plan is to make those two their permanent centre backs.De Jong has played at centre half a handful of times this season. Did he make Dunne look better, or was it that he didn't have to cover for Richards? The vast majority of De Jong's games have been in central midfield. If anything, he's a replacement for Fernandes. If De Jong is the long term permanent centre half, why did Hughes exclude him from the European squad?
Everyone fit and available City's starting XI looks like


Given
Zabaleta Dunne Richards/Onuoha Bridge
De Jong Kompany
Wright-Phillips Ireland Robinho
Bellamy


I always thought last season Richards and Johnson were the two most overrated players in the league by the British Media, the vindictive side of me was absolutely thrilled to see both of them having shockers this season. Neither of them even have a place in the side anymore with the form of Zabaleta and Ireland!Ireland and Zabaleta have nothing to do with it, Johnson has been injured for the majority of the season. He's only come back for the reserves in the last week.

[irishfan86]

De Jong has played at centre half a handful of times this season. Did he make Dunne look better, or was it that he didn't have to cover for Richards? The vast majority of De Jong's games have been in central midfield. If anything, he's a replacement for Fernandes. If De Jong is the long term permanent centre half, why did Hughes exclude him from the European squad?


I think you misunderstood his post- I think he was saying that De Jong's arrival (as a midfielder) means that Kompany will now be first choice centre-half.

[SunderlandBohs]

Wolves in for Dunne. According to the yesterday's Sun. So it must be true.;)

[geysir]

It had to happen.
I'd guess that Dunnes is already on a good contract with City.

[tetsujin1979]

Dunne on all the recent transfer speculation
from http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=6631414

City's captain is said to be a target for at least one Premier League club this summer, but he added: "I definitely want to stay here and be part of the club as it pushes forward. I'm sure every player here feels the same."

[an_ceannaire]

According to McDevitt last night The Citeh Chairman wants rid of Dunne as he is "not the kind of player who will sell shirts" and supposedly the Citeh fans have lost faith in him and he is available for 5m..... would make a great signing for someone coming up. Ideal world form an Irish point of view would be City pursue their interest in Lescott and offer Dunne + £££ for him. Everton would be the best possible place for Dunnie Monster now. Quite a fall from grace at Citeh :(

[Duggie]

hope he dosent end up at a promoted club - prob be fighting to stay up. hes way to good for that.

someone like fulham, everton, west ham..clubs like these.

[NeilMcD]

To be honest, THe only club in England that does not need Dune is Man Utd. Liverpool Chelsea and Arsenal could all do with him. So could Everton, Villa and Spurs. Total madness that he is going for 5mand Johnson is going for 18m. One is a world class defender and the others is a flakey attacking full back.

[endabob1]

Dunne's had a terrible season, he's almost 30 and he's already pretty slow. He is at his level, mid-table premiership his best hope is to stay at that level somewhere like Blackburn would be a good move.
Villa appear to be a bit light on cash, which is a shame because that would be a good move. I can't see him going back to Everton, Yobo, Lescott & Jagielka already there, Spurs have King, Woodgate & Dawson plus he turned down Charlton in favour of City because he wanted to stay up north.

[carloz]

So Dunne is not the sort of person to sell shirts yet Lescott would be:confused:. Between this and Glen Johnson going for €17 million, id really have to worry about the way these clubs actuallly view players

[youngirish]

To be honest, THe only club in England that does not need Dune is Man Utd. Liverpool Chelsea and Arsenal could all do with him. So could Everton, Villa and Spurs. Total madness that he is going for 5mand Johnson is going for 18m. One is a world class defender and the others is a flakey attacking full back.

I've mentioned this numerous times before but is's simply because one is an England international and the other isn't.

Having an England cap triples your transfer value - see Bentley, Pennant, Downing, Bent, Defoe, Glen and Andy Johnson, Paul Robinson and a whole heap of others too numerous to mention for examples.

[carloz]

Dunne's had a terrible season
When you are player of the season for 4 season in a row you are due the one off season. Think its a shame the way City are treating him. He would probably be best off out of there.

[dr_peepee]

Villa to replace Laursen??

At 5 million it would be a snip for anyone... Worth at least 8-10 mill in my mind and wouldn't look out of place in the top four... Crazy thinking by City

[NeilMcD]

When you are player of the season for 4 season in a row you are due the one off season. Think its a shame the way City are treating him. He would probably be best off out of there.

Speaking to a few city fans when I was over there, they said that Richards was the one who was at fault most of the time and that Dunne was caught trying to cover up for Richards all season. His performances for Ireland would seem to suggest this as true.

[SunderlandBohs]

According to McDevitt last night The Citeh Chairman wants rid of Dunne as he is "not the kind of player who will sell shirts" and supposedly the Citeh fans have lost faith in him and he is available for 5m..... would make a great signing for someone coming up. Ideal world form an Irish point of view would be City pursue their interest in Lescott and offer Dunne + £££ for him. Everton would be the best possible place for Dunnie Monster now. Quite a fall from grace at Citeh :(
On his way to Sunderland. Would be a great signing for both parties. We need an experience CB and a leader on the pitch. Dunne has all hallmarks of Bruce as a player. Plus Dunne would be a first team regular and signing for a team on the up with one of the best Stadiums and training grounds in England. A manager and chairman who have ambition to break into Europe in the future.(Que the anti-SAFC pro-Keano brigade)

I said it on here before, Dunne isn't 'sexy' enough for Man City's new owners. He won't sell shirts to the Asian market but he'll get you valuable points. ie.Bulagria 2 weeks ago.

[Razors left peg]

As the quote goes from the film Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels.... Its a deal, its a steal, its sale of the f****** century:D:D

Seriously at 5 million Dunne would be a fantastic buy for any club.Ive never seen Lescott put in a performance of the level that Dunne consistanly does for us

[elroy]

I've mentioned this numerous times before but is's simply because one is an England international and the other isn't.

Having an England cap triples your transfer value - see Bentley, Pennant, Downing, Bent, Defoe, Glen and Andy Johnson, Paul Robinson and a whole heap of others too numerous to mention for examples.

Exactly, ask yourself if Michael Carrick was Irish or Scottish or Welsh, would he have cost 16m??? No way! I think Glen Johnson is a good player but again with the same test, he probably wouldve gone for half that amount.