Richard Dunne [Archive] - Page 17

AlaskaFox

30/01/2012, 7:53 PM

If you're looking at a team before this Villa iteration then it was probably Villa in the early to mid-90's - McGrath, Houghton, Staunton, Townsend and Gareth Farrelly may have played in a team together.

Houghton left the year before Farrelly made his debut unfortunately.

geysir

30/01/2012, 9:07 PM

Equally though, time was the Liverpool / Man U match would have been the one with the larger number of Irish players. Funny how times changes.
The good ol' days.
In 1986 there were 3 regulars for the champions Liverpool, Beglin, Whelan and Lawro
3 regulars for FA cup winners Man U, Moran, McGrath and Stapleton

1987
Champions again, Liverpool had Lawrenson, Aldridge, Houghton, Whelan and young Stan cleaning the boots. Man U had Moran and McGrath

The Fly

30/01/2012, 10:09 PM

Five Irish players on the pitch for Villa at once - Given, Clark, Dunne, Ireland and Keane. When was the last time this happened in a match between two Premiership teams?

Villa v Everton a couple of weeks ago.

Edit: Danny beat me to it!

tricky_colour

30/01/2012, 11:40 PM

Five Irish players on the pitch for Villa at once - Given, Clark, Dunne, Ireland and Keane. When was the last time this happened in a match between two Premiership teams?

When Mick McCarthy ran on to complain about a penalty! :)

SkStu

31/01/2012, 12:20 AM

The good ol' days.
In 1986 there were 3 regulars for the champions Liverpool, Beglin, Whelan and Lawro
3 regulars for FA cup winners Man U, Moran, McGrath and Stapleton

1987
Champions again, Liverpool had Lawrenson, Aldridge, Houghton, Whelan and young Stan cleaning the boots. Man U had Moran and McGrath

it was a different game then though innit. All those fackin forriners innit? Takin Irish jobs.

Qwerty

31/01/2012, 6:07 AM

Which got me thinking about Sunderland who not so long ago had an embarrassingly large collection of Irish journeymen.

Which got me thinking about another great green-white-gold hope Roy O'Donovan who has now settled at the bottom of the Coventry squad who themselves are sitting not bery pretty at the bottom of the Championship.

I think most of the rest have retired.

punkrocket

31/01/2012, 1:53 PM

Leeds had a strong Irish presence when they were at the top of their game around the new millenium Keane, Harte, Kelly, McPhail, Maybury and O'Leary at the side. They usually have a few in the squad the current squad being no exception.

tetsujin1979

12/02/2012, 4:53 PM

Just substituted against City, with his right arm held in place by one of the Villa medical staff. Fingers crossed it's not a dislocation.

theworm2345

12/02/2012, 4:54 PM

Nasty fall there for Dunne, looks to have been his shoulder. Hope he's not out too long.

DannyInvincible

12/02/2012, 4:55 PM

Dunne walks off with a shoulder injury in stoppage time against Manchester City. Took a bad fall after challenging for a header with Joe Hart. Hopefully not too bad.

tricky_colour

12/02/2012, 4:57 PM

Just saw that, well not the incident itself but just after, looks to me like he might have done his collar bone.
I'm not an expect but I was holding my shoulder in a similar fashion when I did mine.

Stuttgart88

12/02/2012, 5:37 PM

Yeah, that's how you can tell if a cyclist has done his collar bone.

Dislocation or collar bone - you'd think he should still be fit for the Euros. A 5 week break right now could actually do him good.

Anyway, if he's injured we can draft in McClean :)

DannyInvincible

12/02/2012, 6:34 PM

Suspected dislocated shoulder. He'll be out for 8 to 10 weeks if in need of an operation: https://twitter.com/#!/YouBoysInGreen/status/168779575118143489

SwanVsDalton

12/02/2012, 6:59 PM

Bad news. That's the kind of injury that can reoccur easily and plague players long-term. Hope he gets back and stays off it before June.

DannyInvincible

12/02/2012, 7:14 PM

Some more info from Villa: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2608682,00.html

Richard Dunne faces an anxious wait to discover the extent of the shoulder injury he sustained against Manchester City.

Dunne is being assessed by a specialist after landing awkwardly in an aerial challenge at the end of the Sky Sports Sunday game.

Manager McLeish was waiting for a definite prognosis on the problem but confirmed it looked like being at least a month on the sidelines for the defensive giant.

...

McLeish said: "Dunnie's not going to be back for the next game, that's for sure.

"I don't know at this moment exactly what's happened. He's definitely damaged his shoulder which is part of the bad luck we've been having recently.

"We have a specialist right now looking at him. We always have specialists in the crowd for different parts of the body.

"One of the guys was looking at him as I came up for the press conference.

"I don't know what's going to happen with the Big Un.

"Whether he is going to go tonight to hospital? I don't know what they do if it's dislocated.

"I can't give you an answer just now. I do believe he will be out for at least a month. That's serious enough.

Sullivinho

12/02/2012, 7:28 PM

The guy we can least afford to do without imo. Just as well it happened now and not on the last day of the season or something horrendous like that.

French Toasht

12/02/2012, 7:43 PM

The guy we can least afford to do without imo. Just as well it happened now and not on the last day of the season or something horrendous like that.

I agree. He is the only indispensable player in the Irish squad. Losing any other regular starter would not be ideal, but we do have cover.

tricky_colour

12/02/2012, 7:45 PM

Definately Dunne his shoulder in.

the bear

12/02/2012, 9:41 PM

dunne is certainly the one man we can't afford not to be on the plane, although i'm not really satisfied with the greek IMF bailout deal

tricky_colour

12/02/2012, 9:45 PM

Just seen the incident on MOTD look a very similar fall to when I came off my bike and broke my collar bone although
the consensus seems to be a dislocated shoulder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xLUQSTTFFw
Maybe it is, there seems to be a sort of sheering blow to the shoulder which may have dislocated it.
Looks pretty nasty though I mean falling from about foot onto your shoulder is quite a blow to the body The keeper knocks his head which sends him spinning in mid air.

drummerboy

12/02/2012, 11:12 PM

It seems like a dislocation. What the recovery time for such an injury?

tricky_colour

13/02/2012, 12:02 AM

dunne is certainly the one man we can't afford not to be on the plane, although i'm not really satisfied with the greek IMF bailout deal

lol I was somewhat bewildered by that post until I read the McClean thread! (recommended reading to others who may be bewildered)

irishfan86

13/02/2012, 8:04 AM

Dislocated shoulders, if surgery is required, generally take 2-3 months to recover from (if that is indeed what he injured).

My one concern with Dunne is that if he's out for a while he'll put on some weight. Don't me wrong I'd take an obese Richard Dunne over anyone else, but he is one of those guys I'd rather after a season of play rather than after an offseason if you know what I mean...

Hopefully it's something more minor than that but I doubt it.

Sullivinho

13/02/2012, 12:45 PM

Confirmed as a fractured clavicle. (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2609417,00.html) 8 week layoff.

geysir

13/02/2012, 12:52 PM

He requires surgery, that prediction of an 8 weeks layoff sounds unrealistic?

tricky_colour

21/02/2012, 2:13 AM

Though it was the collar bone, it hard to see how you could dislocate it by landing on it as that pushes the joint in not out.
Must be pretty bad if it requires surgery, mine didn't and there was a clear gap of about 1/2 inch where the break was.
Mine was a nice clean break though, I though it would never heal up by itself but the doctor said he had seen people
with their arms half hanging off who had no problem recovering. It's amazing how bones can heal themselves like that
and totally re-engineer the bone, it some how managed to bridge that gap and get the bones back to the right length. At first it seems to make a big lump of bone material and then reshape it to the right length and
shape.

theworm2345

21/02/2012, 2:51 AM

He requires surgery, that prediction of an 8 weeks layoff sounds unrealistic?
Agreed, knowing Dunne it'll surely only be 4 weeks.

tetsujin1979

25/02/2012, 1:28 PM

Daily Star reported this morning that Dunne could be out until the end of the season
However, Dion Fanning posted this on twitter this afternoon: https://twitter.com/#!/dionfanning/status/173383394640670720 (https://twitter.com/#%21/dionfanning/status/173383394640670720)

Aston Villa say their club doctor confirmed this morning that Richard Dunne remains on course to return in six weeks
Panic over!

Stuttgart88

25/02/2012, 3:33 PM

Different sport I know but Bradley Wiggins was back competing only a few weeks after breaking his clavicle last summer.

Crosby87

25/02/2012, 4:43 PM

No way he misses Euro. We would be Dunne without him.

DannyInvincible

25/02/2012, 5:06 PM

No way he misses Euro. We would be Dunne without him.

That one's already been Du-... Oh, wait.

theworm2345

29/03/2012, 5:19 PM

Apparently he's doing better and has started jogging
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/dunne-on-the-mend-3066092.html

McGrath on Dunne
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mcgrath-dunne-is-main-man-188757.html
(or slightly different stories)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0329/1224314050103.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/mcgrath-fears-for-dunnes-fitness-ahead-of-irelands-euro-odyssey-3065043.html

tricky_colour

02/04/2012, 3:13 PM

Different sport I know but Bradley Wiggins was back competing only a few weeks after breaking his clavicle last summer.

I think I was back cycling pretty soon after breaking mine (it's a common cyclists injury, sticking out hand to break fall)
as long as you keep your elbow down it was fine, and a cyclists elbow is usually down. It was reaching up that was a bit painful
ie doing stuff like washing your face. But most of the time it is a not load bearing so a convenient bone to break. I damaged my ribs
at the same time and they gave me a lot more grief, worst bit was getting in and out of bed which puts a load of stress on them.

paul_oshea

02/04/2012, 3:33 PM

and riding

Stuttgart88

04/04/2012, 8:59 AM

Dunne to return end-April / Trap talks to player shocker (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/trap-dunne-set-for-early-comeback-189430.html)

paul_oshea

04/04/2012, 10:26 AM

Frauds. I thought Trap said he would climb it if they qualified?

Given he is 73 thoughi I can understand he might not be able for it. Tardelli has no excuse though!

geysir

04/04/2012, 11:18 AM

Seems to fit the hierarchical order, An Trap giving his blessing to An Taoiseach before the latter scurries up The Reek.

punkrocket

18/04/2012, 11:10 AM

Anyone hear anything lately? It's been over 2 months now since the injury, he'd really want to be getting a bit of game time before the end of the season. I'm just getting a bit fidgetty.

theworm2345

18/04/2012, 12:17 PM

Anyone hear anything lately? It's been over 2 months now since the injury, he'd really want to be getting a bit of game time before the end of the season. I'm just getting a bit fidgetty.
Read or heard something over the weekend that he's told Trap he'll be back for Villa's last match.

Mr A

18/04/2012, 12:51 PM

Not too far away from return according to this: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2012/0418/1224314899466.html

DannyInvincible

18/04/2012, 2:11 PM

Trap recently mentioned that he was confident Dunne, as well as O'Shea and Hunt, would be fine after a few days of training together with the squad even if they weren't to get much game time during the remainder of the PL season.

paul_oshea

20/04/2012, 11:18 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/dunne-wont-travel-to-euros-unless-hes-fully-fit-tardelli-3087191.html

Worrying. I wonder are tardelli and trap singing from the same hymn sheet here. I dont understand for key players why managers do this. From the initial squad announcement to the first game there is about 16-20 or so days, for a professional footballer that is a very long time. About 22 days to the second game. There is a 2 week period to name Dunne, if he has to go home injured they can then call up someone else, that person on standby will be more motivated and will already be drilled in the Trap way because it will be a fringe player who has been around for a while now too.

An 80%-90% dunne against croatia on the 10th of June which is 2 weeks after May 29th is better than no Dunne at all. The next game being 3 weeks from that date. Plenty of time to build on fitness.

SwanVsDalton

20/04/2012, 11:44 AM

Sounds to me like Tardelli means Dunne won't go if he's completely crocked - there'll be no bringing him and hoping he can play against Italy kinda thing. If he's 80% for Croatia, sounds like he'll go no problem.

Stuttgart88

20/04/2012, 11:53 AM

Yesterday's (UK) Times says Dunne's already back running and is feeling no pain in his shoulder. I'm more worried about what he's been eating since he's been out!

paul_oshea

20/04/2012, 12:15 PM

He has been eating your...

Sullivinho

20/04/2012, 12:15 PM

...sugar puffs.

I'd play an 80% fit Dunne with his arm in a sling and a handful of painkillers in his gob. Still better than anything else we've got in that position.

Charlie Darwin

23/04/2012, 2:50 PM

Guess who's back... back again...

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-Alex-McLeish-pleased-to-have-Richard-Dunne-back-for-final-games-article894349.html (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-Alex-McLeish-pleased-to-have-Richard-Dunne-back-for-final-games-article894349.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)