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sonofstan
27/11/2004, 6:41 PM
There's 200,000 people in cork, so if 4000 go to the cross every two weeks that's 2% of the population - assume an average of 2,000 for the 4 "big' dub teams (bit more for us and shels, less for pat's and rovers) and, charitably, 1000 for DC or UCD that gives 9,000 from a population of a million - less than 1%.

CollegeTillIDie
28/11/2004, 12:02 AM
There's 200,000 people in cork, so if 4000 go to the cross every two weeks that's 2% of the population - assume an average of 2,000 for the 4 "big' dub teams (bit more for us and shels, less for pat's and rovers) and, charitably, 1000 for DC or UCD that gives 9,000 from a population of a million - less than 1%.

What about all those from county Cork that go to Turner's Cross?
I know of one Cork City fan who lives in Clonmel.
Not to mention the Bohs/Rovers/Pat's/College/ Dublin City /Shels fans who reside in Counties Meath, Kildare and Wicklow?

sonofstan
28/11/2004, 8:35 AM
What about all those from county Cork that go to Turner's Cross?
I know of one Cork City fan who lives in Clonmel.
Not to mention the Bohs/Rovers/Pat's/College/ Dublin City /Shels fans who reside in Counties Meath, Kildare and Wicklow?

Yeah I know - sizeable numbers of Bohs fans live in Meath; still works though if you take Cork's catchment area as Co. Cork and South Tipp. and the Dublin teams as the Pale say 350, 000 in 'greater Cork' 1.5m in Greater Dublin; proportions still roughly the same - although I suppose this makes Bray and even Drogheda 'Dublin' teams.....

pineapple stu
28/11/2004, 9:38 PM
Cobh attendances here (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=194571&posted=1#post194571) -

v Athlone (1-0) 285
v U.C.D (0-1) 255
v Dundalk (2-1) 180
v Monaghan (8-1) 270
v Bray (1-2) 200
v Sligo (3-2) 150
v Limerick (0-1) 225
v Kilkenny (1-1) 245
v Galway (0-0) 210
v Kildare (1-5) 160
v Finn Harps (2-4) 300 ( when 3,000 people queued outside the ground for Man U tickets
v Athlone (5-0) 250
v U.CD (1-1) 230
v Dundalk (0-1) 300
v Monaghan (3-1) 242
v Bray (1-4) 245

pineapple stu
28/11/2004, 10:03 PM
3500 at Shels v. Waterford according to their forum. Apparently Harps-Dundalk was nearer 4000 than 5000, so have put it in at 4200. Athlone-Galway 150; Galway-Harps 600; Galway-Monaghan 300 from this (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=19960) post. Which leaves us at...

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs 2340 (2625)
Cork 4033 (4147)
Derry 1672 (2265)
Drogheda 1554 (1662)
Dublin City 592
Longford 1131 (1586)
Pat's 1882 (2971)
Rovers 1466 (2038) (missing Cork 2 and Derry 2)
Shels 2158 (2573)
Waterford 1753 (2520) (missing Dublin City 1)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone 291 (missing Cobh, Dundalk 2, Galway 1, Kildare (both rounds), Limerick (both), Monaghan 2 and Sligo)
Bray 818
Cobh 240
Dundalk 591
Harps 1106 (missing Cobh 2)
Galway 571 (missing Cobh 2 and Kildare 2)
Kildare 298 (missing Cobh 2, Dundalk 2, Galway, Kilkenny 2, Limerick 2 and Monaghan)
Kilkenny 108 (missing Bray 2, Cobh (both), Kildare, Limerick (both), Monaghan (both) and Sligo)
Limerick 188 (missing Bray, Cobh (both), Dundalk 2, Kildare, Kilkenny, Monaghan (both) and Sligo)
Monaghan 182 (missing Athlone, Kildare (both games) and Kilkenny)
Sligo 781
UCD 306 (783)

PREMIER DIVISION AVERAGE - 1863 (2331)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE - 515


Or, in order...
PREMIER
Cork City 4,033
Bohemians 2,340
Shelbourne 2,158
Saint Patrick's Ath 1,882
Waterford United 1,753
Derry City 1,672
Drogheda United 1,554
Shamrock Rovers 1,466
Longford Town 1,131
Dublin City 592

FIRST
Finn Harps 1,106
Bray Wanderers 818
Sligo Rovers 781
Dundalk 591
Galway United 571
UCD 306
Kildare County 298
Athlone Town 291
Cobh Ramblers 240
Limerick FC 188
Monaghan United 182
Kilkenny City 108

corkharps
29/11/2004, 8:47 AM
Yeah I know - sizeable numbers of Bohs fans live in Meath; still works though if you take Cork's catchment area as Co. Cork and South Tipp. and the Dublin teams as the Pale say 350, 000 in 'greater Cork' 1.5m in Greater Dublin; proportions still roughly the same - although I suppose this makes Bray and even Drogheda 'Dublin' teams.....

On this logic,there are 3,000 people living in Ballybofey,there was a 'reported' 5,000 at the Dundalk match. Work out the percentage on that one! :confused:

OneRedArmy
29/11/2004, 9:06 AM
On this logic,there are 3,000 people living in Ballybofey,there was a 'reported' 5,000 at the Dundalk match. Work out the percentage on that one! :confused:

167%, rounded up. Do we always have to help you thick Donegalmen out? :D

corkharps
30/11/2004, 7:46 AM
167%, rounded up. Do we always have to help you thick Donegalmen out? :D
When your on your Summer holidays in 'Beautiful Bundoran',I'll meet up with you and over a pint of Harp,I'll explain the word irony to you! :p

paudie
30/11/2004, 9:38 AM
Great work on thread all season compiling the figures.

Just one thing to note though. As far as I know the only team who actually publish their attendances are Bohs and their average in only down 300 in what was a very poor season by their standards.

We should bear in mind that attendances are understated so maybe the actual reduction isn't as bad as it looks.

dublinred
30/11/2004, 10:04 AM
3500 at Shels v. Waterford according to their forum. Apparently Harps-Dundalk was nearer 4000 than 5000, so have put it in at 4200. Athlone-Galway 150; Galway-Harps 600; Galway-Monaghan 300 from this (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=19960) post. Which leaves us at...

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs 2340 (2625)
Cork 4033 (4147)
Derry 1672 (2265)
Drogheda 1554 (1662)
Dublin City 592
Longford 1131 (1586)
Pat's 1882 (2971)
Rovers 1466 (2038) (missing Cork 2 and Derry 2)
Shels 2158 (2573)
Waterford 1753 (2520) (missing Dublin City 1)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone 291 (missing Cobh, Dundalk 2, Galway 1, Kildare (both rounds), Limerick (both), Monaghan 2 and Sligo)
Bray 818
Cobh 240
Dundalk 591
Harps 1106 (missing Cobh 2)
Galway 571 (missing Cobh 2 and Kildare 2)
Kildare 298 (missing Cobh 2, Dundalk 2, Galway, Kilkenny 2, Limerick 2 and Monaghan)
Kilkenny 108 (missing Bray 2, Cobh (both), Kildare, Limerick (both), Monaghan (both) and Sligo)
Limerick 188 (missing Bray, Cobh (both), Dundalk 2, Kildare, Kilkenny, Monaghan (both) and Sligo)
Monaghan 182 (missing Athlone, Kildare (both games) and Kilkenny)
Sligo 781
UCD 306 (783)

PREMIER DIVISION AVERAGE - 1863 (2331)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE - 515


Or, in order...
PREMIER
Cork City 4,033
Bohemians 2,340
Shelbourne 2,158
Saint Patrick's Ath 1,882
Waterford United 1,753
Derry City 1,672
Drogheda United 1,554
Shamrock Rovers 1,466
Longford Town 1,131
Dublin City 592

FIRST
Finn Harps 1,106
Bray Wanderers 818
Sligo Rovers 781
Dundalk 591
Galway United 571
UCD 306
Kildare County 298
Athlone Town 291
Cobh Ramblers 240
Limerick FC 188
Monaghan United 182
Kilkenny City 108

Anyone else think these are shockingly poor , what are the comparsions like to winter football.

What am I going to do at XMAS no northwest derbies , no football fullstop.

dortie
30/11/2004, 11:27 AM
When your on your Summer holidays in 'Beautiful Bundoran',I'll meet up with you and over a pint of Harp,I'll explain the word irony to you! :p


Repeat the word Irony from somebody who cant get a job in his own County !

corkharps
30/11/2004, 11:41 AM
Repeat the word Irony from somebody who cant get a job in his own County !
Dortie,It's the way ya tell them! :rolleyes:

corkharps
30/11/2004, 11:43 AM
Anyone else think these are shockingly poor , what are the comparsions like to winter football.

What am I going to do at XMAS no northwest derbies , no football fullstop.
We had a few Stephen's days down in the Showgrounds,always a great **** up! :(

pete
01/12/2004, 2:16 PM
Cork city attendances 70% more than 2nd place.
When include 20k from the 3 inter toto cup games is close enough to 100k seasonal total.

If include shel$ 4 european games they be around 82k total for season.
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1st division numbers are pathetic & 12 team premier will reduce average numbers next season.

ShelsTim
01/12/2004, 9:56 PM
Cork city attendances 70% more than 2nd place.
When include 20k from the 3 inter toto cup games is close enough to 100k seasonal total.

If include shel$ 4 european games they be around 82k total for season.
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1st division numbers are pathetic & 12 team premier will reduce average numbers next season.

That remains to be seen, Finn Harps-Derry derbies will bring in a good bit for those three games, first northern derby in a while, though I agree Bray and UCD won't add much.

Dissapointing figures in the league are Drogs and Longford. Longford did very well in the cup and you'd think they'd be able to pull along more supporters than they did, they didn't do terribly in the league either. Drogs had an exceptional season and the figures really should've shot up, they're even below the mid-table teams, which isn't good. They'll need all the money they can get if they're to continue this kinda performance.

Stevo Da Gull
01/12/2004, 10:12 PM
Bray won't add much.


I'd say we'll average over 1000 which would be 2 times as much as Dub C this season - and being on the DartLine should mean big travelling support for all the Dublin teams so I think we will be good for the Prem (if we can produce enough to keep the home fans).
Although I agree that neither ourselves or UCD will bring as much to the league as Harps.

kevincronin2000
01/12/2004, 11:21 PM
[QUOTE=Although I agree that neither ourselves or UCD will bring as much to the league as Harps.[/QUOTE]

Nice to see a bit of honesty on foot.ie

pineapple stu
01/12/2004, 11:31 PM
First Division average is going to plummet next season though - no Harps or Bray (top two on the list this season) and Dublin City taking their place... Could well go down to the 300s.

holidaysong
02/12/2004, 12:33 PM
Dissapointing figures in the league are Drogs.....Drogs had an exceptional season and the figures really should've shot up, they're even below the mid-table teams, which isn't good. They'll need all the money they can get if they're to continue this kinda performance.

Drogheda have one of the highest ticket prices - might have something to do with the lower than expected turnouts. Although the higher prices are still going to bring in the cash!

Ronnie
06/12/2004, 1:42 PM
Playig figuers here, but if the numbers attending each weekend is 18,500 in the Premier and 5,500 in the First, out of popul of 4million its .006%. Whats it like in other countries?

pineapple stu
06/12/2004, 9:22 PM
Playig figuers here, but if the numbers attending each weekend is 18,500 in the Premier and 5,500 in the First, out of popul of 4million its .006%. Whats it like in other countries?

0.6%, not 0.006%. Also, that'd be every two weeks, as the figures you have are if each team plays at home each week, which obviously wouldn't happen.

This (http://www.European-Football-Statistics.co.uk) website gievs average attendances for most leauges in Europe, so you can check the various percentages there. Cyprus is about the highest, as far as I know.

anto eile
07/12/2004, 2:12 PM
NB technically chievo verona have the highest percentage crowds in the world. average is about 9000, their town/suburb has a population of 3000

BrayUnknowns
07/12/2004, 3:52 PM
Although I agree that neither ourselves or UCD will bring as much to the league as Harps.

I bet ya we finish above both these teams, some nice signings on the way. We'll do ok next season :D

joey B
07/12/2004, 4:04 PM
In your dreams mate.

BrayUnknowns
07/12/2004, 4:12 PM
In your dreams mate.

No, not really. twill be a lovely fact come the end on the season

pineapple stu
07/12/2004, 11:32 PM
I bet ya we finish above both these teams, some nice signings on the way. We'll do ok next season :D

Twenty quid says you don't finish above us! Yuo know we've always got two or three class signings no-one's ever heard about! Plus you couldn't beat us in four attempts or finish above us last year! :p

pineapple stu
07/12/2004, 11:33 PM
NB technically chievo verona have the highest percentage crowds in the world. average is about 9000, their town/suburb has a population of 3000

Technically a town, not a country! You started it! ;)

joey B
08/12/2004, 8:38 AM
No, not really. twill be a lovely fact come the end on the season
AW sure as long as we finish above Derry. :D :D

dortie
08/12/2004, 9:10 AM
AW sure as long as we finish above Derry. :D :D


Youll be lucky to finish above 12th place.

joey B
08/12/2004, 9:34 AM
Youll be lucky to finish above 12th place.
We'll see , we'll see. :D

BrayUnknowns
08/12/2004, 10:09 AM
Twenty quid says you don't finish above us! Yuo know we've always got two or three class signings no-one's ever heard about! Plus you couldn't beat us in four attempts or finish above us last year! :p

Rite so, 20 squid it is ! do we have a deal ? :D
I'm feeling very confident about next season, especially with the new signings we have coming in, just you wait and see my friend !

pineapple stu
08/12/2004, 12:51 PM
Rite so, 20 squid it is ! do we have a deal ? :D
I'm feeling very confident about next season, especially with the new signings we have coming in, just you wait and see my friend !

Damn half-twelve-after-a-few-pints posts! :D

Yerrah sure why not? If all comes to all, I can just edit my post in the months to come! :p

Sheridan
10/12/2004, 9:32 AM
According to a post on the SPA forum (figures presumably taken from a report in one of the papers):

According to the league there was an average of 1,700 for all games in the premier division last season. Average of 430 for the 1st division.
The last weekend of the season attracted the most amount of people.
The first w/e attracted the 2nd most.
July and August had the lowest attendances.
Cork v Bohs on the last day had the highest attendance.

"We" were within 100 on both counts, not too shabby.

joey B
10/12/2004, 9:43 AM
Attendances (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/aveire.htm) Heres some statistics.

pineapple stu
10/12/2004, 10:26 AM
The first w/e attracted the 2nd most.
July and August had the lowest attendances.

Pretty worrying actually - started out high, but attendances dropped away all season, the most in the summer, when attendances are supposed to be up because of summer soccer, and only came back up for the big finale. Seems to blow away the myth about summer soccer being good for attendances, whatever about Europe, anyway... :(


"We" were within 100 on both counts, not too shabby.

First Division would be nearer if I had all the attendances - the blank Athlone, Limerick, Monaghan and Kilkenny attendances would drag the 515 down still further. Still, nice to see it's reasonably trustworthy anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing a club-by-club breakdown though - see who's the biggest exaggerators!


Here's some statistics.

That's me from here.