Everton Irish and Opposition Irish

[tetsujin1979]

I refuse to believe he missed a sitter until I see a post from Paul six months ago predicting he will miss a sitter

[Charlie Darwin]

I refuse to believe he missed a sitter until I see a post from Paul six months ago predicting he will miss a sitter
I used to be like you and needed to see "evidence" of Paul's premonitions. You'll learn not to doubt in future.

[tricky_colour]

Sods law says if he had been defending a similar ball he would have put it in the back of the net. :)

[DeLorean]

Coleman and McCarthy both came off the bench last night. McCarthy could have been braver for De Bruyne's cross that set up the winner. He did a bit of a John O'Shea and turned his arse on it, making himself as small as possible. I'd happily take a smack of a ball in the face to have a cup final at Wembley to look forward to.

Edit- I just seen it again and it's even worse than I remember (https://youtu.be/G-ydOnna12k?t=3m24s), he practically got out of the way of it. He also did that silly 'hands behind his back' thing, which was even more unnecessary than usual as he wasn't even in the penalty box.

[tricky_colour]

Not very impressive really, you should really be trying to charge down the ball.
Mind you, that is less than half the story, what about £30 million pound defender John Stones?
Free header for Aguero, surely he can't let him get in front of him like that? He is not much use
standing behind him there, might as well not be on the pitch.

Indeed he is worth £50 million now apparently!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3419972/All-eyes-Everton-s-John-Stones-tricky-weeks-50m-rated-man-Blues-just-defend.htmlHe

He has done McCarthy a favour actually as he is not even mentioned in the article.

Complimentary of Coleman though!!



This was a horrible night for Everton's defenders, brutally exposed by one of the most feared strikers in world football when Sergio Aguero lost John Stones in the 76th minute. He is still looking for him.

The Everton defender, shuffled out to right back to accommodate captain Phil Jagielka and Ramiro Funes Mori, was caught napping when Aguero scored City's third with his head.



'They've got a problem with John Stones at right back,' claimed Sky analyst Jamie Redknapp. 'He's not a right back.

You've got Seamus Coleman who's a better right back than him and Stones has got to go and play centre back.' Aguero put this tie to bed and the countless replays will be a reminder that Stones, right back or centre back, must put his nut in where it hurts to keep the ball out of that net.Martinez responded by substituting him, sending for Coleman in a desperate attempt to take this tie into extra-time. It was never going to happen.

[DeLorean]

Aguero tends to lose a lot better and more experienced defenders than Stones. He's getting a hard time lately but that just goes with poor results. He's still only a kid, learning to swim at the deep end, build them up to knock them down is the English way.

Yeah I'm glad McCarthy is getting a bit of a free ride but it was disappointing to see from our point of view, not his usual style to be fair. This (https://youtu.be/G-ydOnna12k?t=4m48s) was much higher on the commitment scale from himself and Baines a short time later.

[tricky_colour]

Well Obviously Man City paid big buck for Aguero for a reason one being his ability to lose defenders.
Actually you only just see it at the start of the clips where Aguero nips inside him, would need to
seem from a bit earlier though.

Maybe he could say in his defence he was expecting McCarty to block the cross!

I do think he was built up too much though I have not see too much too impress me although I don't particularly look out for him.

Pretty much all I can remember is errors!

But anyway it was a great cross and a great header and not too impressive defending on that occasion.

[DeLorean]

I think Stones is a big talent to be honest. It probably doesn't help him that he's playing for a manager who focusses on the other side of the game more, and that Jagielka has been injured so much. Very little continuity. Perhaps he should be used more sparingly anyway? Obviously the price tag is insane but that's not his fault/problem. It usually takes centre backs until their mid-20's at the earliest to really find their feet and establish themselves. Chris Smalling, for example, has been around a long time at this stage but is only now he's really starting to look the part.

[tricky_colour]

Blackburn Shane Duffy would have got his head on that!



R

Name
CM
KG
Apps
Mins
Goals
Assists
Yel
Red
SpG
PS%
AerialsWon

MotM
Rating





1


Shane Duffy (https://www.whoscored.com/Players/75692)24, D(C)
193
76
26
2327
1
1
8
-
1.9
61.8

7.7

5
7.46


















John Stones (https://www.whoscored.com/Players/101374)21, D(CR)

188
70
21
1890
-
-

3

-
0.3

89.1
1.4
-
6.93














R


Name

Apps
Mins

Tackles
Inter
Fouls
Offsides
Clear

Drb
Blocks
OwnG
Rating






Shane Duffy (https://www.whoscored.com/Players/75692)Blackburn, (https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/158)24, D(C)

26
2327
0.9
2.4
1.6
0.7

7

0.3
1
-
7.46






John Stones (https://www.whoscored.com/Players/101374)21, D(CR)

188
70
21
1890
1.7
1.9
0.5
0.6
3.5

0.5
1
-
6.93





Those are his stats compared to Shane Duffy the highlighted figures for crosses and aerial dual won
show Duffy is twice as good and much be worth at last £100 million!

[DeLorean]

Our contingent will have a new manager (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36273695) this summer. It will be interesting to see who they appoint. Probably best to spare Martinez a hostile send off at Goodison on Sunday.

Three years left on his £4m a year contract... he'll be okay. :)

[Charlie Darwin]

There goes McGeady's carefully-managed fitness regime :(

[CraftyToePoke]

Three years left on his £4m a year contract... he'll be okay. :)

He won't be cold come winter, its true.

[seanfhear]

Our contingent will have a new manager (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36273695) this summer. It will be interesting to see who they appoint. Probably best to spare Martinez a hostile send off at Goodison on Sunday.

Three years left on his £4m a year contract... he'll be okay. :)No wonder he didn't seem too worried about getting the tin tac

When is this kind of re-imbursement(?) going to be there for the ordinary Joe/Josephine

[tricky_colour]

Wonder what the outlook will be for the Irish lads?
Depends who they get in I guess.

Frank de Boer is about evens fav
Then Ronald Koeman at about 2-1
Martin O Neill 25-1 ish :)
Roy Keane 66-1 :cool:
Chris Hughton 66-1 :ball:

[DeLorean]

It will be interesting for McCarthy in particular I think. He's known nothing but Martinez since leaving Hamilton really at club level, bar a couple of weeks at Wigan. He's been a bit of a manager's pet under Martinez so might have to come out of his comfort zone a bit. Could be a good thing. A potential lifeline for Gibson, in particular, and maybe even McGeady too, doubtful though.

[Stuttgart88]

All papers saying Koeman top target this morning. A shame because (a) Long will continue to flourish under Koeman and (b) I want Koeman to take over at Arsenal!

[DeLorean]

Maybe Koeman will take Long with him! Lukaku might not be there much longer.

[OwlsFan]

More importantly, any word on Coleman's injury ?

[DeLorean]

More importantly, any word on Coleman's injury ?

Martinez had indicated that Coleman might have a chance of being involved at the weekend, unlike himself, fitness test depending. Here- (http://www.98fm.com/Seamus-Coleman-OUT-For-Everton-Again)

[tricky_colour]

Well let's face it the players, like Everton were going nowhere under Martinez so hopefully a chance for the better,
unless they will be going to different club!

I must say Martinez always seemed rather uninspiring in his TV interviews.

[paul_oshea]

Go back to his thread or Wigan when I pointed out Derby defeats and massive problems with his defensive structure.he took a really sound defensive unit and completely ruined them. If he'd only listened or read his forum back then he mightn't be in the position he is :D

It was the same rhetoric over and over and it became a bit hollow after a while from him. I feel a bit sorry for him cos he seems like a nice guy.

[DeLorean]

Paul, you do realise the whole world knows that he's a very attack minded manager and therefore his Achille's Heel has generally been his team's defensive problems. He had a brilliant first season at Everton, of course he was going to be given credit for that at the time. I'm all for you arrogantly patting yourself on the back if you make some shrude observation that was a long way short of common knowledge, but come on....:)

[Charlie Darwin]

Paul, you do realise the whole world knows that he's a very attack minded manager and therefore his Achille's Heel has generally been his team's defensive problems. He had a brilliant first season at Everton, of course he was going to be given credit for that at the time. I'm all for you arrogantly patting yourself on the back if you make some shrude observation that was a long way short of common knowledge, but come on....:)
Just let him have it, Delo.

[tetsujin1979]

I, for one, would like to see evidence of these posts, and that nobody, anywhere, ever, had spoken of the defensive deficiencies of Martinez's team beforehand

[geysir]

Wasn't it Predator and Charlie who discussed and dissected the reasons for Everton's defensive frailties?

[Stuttgart88]

I can honestly say I heard Paul discuss this at a public Q&A forum with some well known football figures and the consensus was that Paul's question was the best. Not only that but it was the most articulately presented question of the day.

[SkStu]

McCarthys goal was a peach.

[geysir]

I can honestly say I heard Paul discuss this at a public Q&A forum with some well known football figures and the consensus was that Paul's question was the best. Not only that but it was the most articulately presented question of the day.
Was that not the one where no one understood the question and the well known figures were left speechless looking at each other in bewilderment?

[Stuttgart88]

Sorry, that's what I meant to say.

[DannyInvincible]

Cracking goal for McCarthy today. Just saw it on 'MOTD'. Commentator saying it's a contender for Everton's goal-of-the-season. I've not seen the rest of them, but I'll take his word for it.

[DeLorean]

His rare goals seem to always come very late in the season.

[DeLorean]

Cracking goal for McCarthy today. Just saw it on 'MOTD'. Commentator saying it's a contender for Everton's goal-of-the-season. I've not seen the rest of them, but I'll take his word for it.

Great strike but if that's their goal of the season I'm not too interested in seeing the rest of them! A very Gibson-like shot actually.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyDh7U3N_o

[paul_oshea]

I, for one, would like to see evidence of these posts, and that nobody, anywhere, ever, had spoken of the defensive deficiencies of Martinez's team beforehand

I would do, but the search function is so crap on this i cant find the posts. CD will remember it well though, even if he isn't admitting it. I think skstu was involved too :)

[tetsujin1979]

I would do, but the search function is so crap on this i cant find the posts. CD will remember it well though, even if he isn't admitting it. I think skstu was involved too :)

Good thing you can't use Google to restrict search results to a certain website.

[Charlie Darwin]

Paul, I've been banging the drum on this site for some time that you are the oracle of truth on all football matter.

I just wish I'd realised it sooner so geysir and I didn't waste so much time gushing over Martinez's rigid system and Sacchi-like commitment to defensive solidity.

[tricky_colour]

Great strike by McCarthy but he was allowed to waltz forward and nobody really picked him up.

The Norwich defence seems to be all over the place, nobody marked up, no surprise they are going down.

Great strike, but it was basically a free hit, doubt he will get too many of those in the Euro's

[paul_oshea]

Google search does kinda work, this isnt the post i was looking for as its only from 3/4 years ago. There was one from around 2011 I think where i went through about spurs and chelsea hammering them but i can't find it, and went through all martinez stats and how poor they were defensively.


I think Martinez got them playing the way he wanted(and has done the same at Everton but inherited a better Defence), but a poor defensive record created mixed results, he lacked 1 or 2 players that perhaps would have given them a defensive solidity that seemed to be lacking, I do remember some big drubbings at Chelsea and spurs, i also think they condeded nearly 80 goals one season and something like 70 another. I remember Martinez complaining about defenders all getting injured around the same time especially the season they got relegated. I reckon had they a solid Defence they would always have acheived around mid to mid-lower table, perhaps that was Martinez' flaw, he was more focused on the playing side of the game, than being solid defensively.

[DeLorean]

And all of this is to prove what again?.... that you were the only one to notice Wigan conceded lots of goals?

[KK77]

Google search does kinda work, this isnt the post i was looking for as its only from 3/4 years ago. There was one from around 2011 I think where i went through about spurs and chelsea hammering them but i can't find it, and went through all martinez stats and how poor they were defensively.

I think it was in Leon Osman's book that under Roberto they never practiced defending set plays.

[tetsujin1979]

ok, now prove that nobody had mentioned it before you.

[DeLorean]

Coleman & McCarthy started at Old Trafford tonight in Wayne Rooney's testimonial. Gibson on the bench. Scoreless at ht.

[DeLorean]

On a loosely related note, Roberto Martinez is the new Belgium manager... didn't see that one coming.

[CraftyToePoke]

didn't see that one coming.

Definitely not, a touch fortunate to land that one maybe.

[OwlsFan]

On a loosely related note, Roberto Martinez is the new Belgium manager... didn't see that one coming.

They'll score lots and concede even more.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Everton trail Spurs 0-1.

Barry didn't cover himself in glory for the Spurs goal.

McCarthy on the bench.

Everton on the back foot and looking pretty toothless.

[tricky_colour]

2:0 down when james came on, 1:2 during his time on the pitch resulting in a 3:2 defeat.

Verdict McCarthy must start the next game to keep their title hopes alive.

[SkStu]

Congrats to Harry Charsley who won the EPL2 (u23 league champions) with Everton. One of the first names on the team sheet by all accounts.

[samhaydenjr]

Congrats to Harry Charsley who won the EPL2 (u23 league champions) with Everton. One of the first names on the team sheet by all accounts.

...and a fairly regular goal scorer also. Will hopefully get a contract extension this summer and the opportunity to prove himself in first team football next season either for Everton or on in a loan move. Also congrats to U-21 International Courtney Duffus who was also a regular in the team, albeit often off the bench, and pitched in with a few goals and to potential international Mateusz Hewelt

[CraftyToePoke]

They have given opportunities to academy lads this season at Everton, hopefully this continues and he gets some outings.

[SkStu]

...and a fairly regular goal scorer also. Will hopefully get a contract extension this summer and the opportunity to prove himself in first team football next season either for Everton or on in a loan move. Also congrats to U-21 International Courtney Duffus who was also a regular in the team, albeit often off the bench, and pitched in with a few goals and to potential international Mateusz Hewelt

I believe Tyrone Duffus (Courtney's younger brother) was also called into the squad a few times although didn't make any appearances. Sam Byrne, who recently made his comeback from that awful leg break, also is listed in the squad with a few appearances. Will be very interesting to see if Byrne comes back the same as he was before.

When I was reviewing the squad yesterday, it was interesting in that Courtney had a Jamaican and English flag beside his name and Tyrone had an Irish and English flag beside his (on the site I was referring to - transfermarkt I think - every other source I have checked since has him down with an Irish flag). I knew there was a Duffus at Everton that played for us but thought that it must have just been Tyrone and chuckled at the coincidence of two people with the Duffus surname being on the same youth team and not related. Doh! Turns out I'm the bigger Doofus.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/jumplist/startseite/verein/9261