Everton Irish and Opposition Irish

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I remember posting that article, geysir.

You're welcome. :D

[tetsujin1979]

Only the second time all four Irish players have been on the pitch at the same time for Everton

[DeLorean]

Watched the second half on a dodgy link. Finished 1-1. Coleman won the penalty, not sure how it wasn't a red card as it was clearly a goal scoring opportunity. McCarthy very lucky to escape second yellow for deliberate handball and made a match saving goal line clearance at the end. Ominously, he seemed to be grimacing a bit after it and holding his hamstring but seemed okay at the same time. McGeady came off with about twenty left for Naismith. The link was pretty cat so I reserve the right to change my mind about any of the above.

[DannyInvincible]

Something tells me we are going to be hearing a lot of "Seamus felt a bit of pain in his achilles." "The stitches came a bit loose." and "James would love to play but he's very tired. He felt a bit of tightness in his hamstring." on Monday morning.

If there's a concern, the FAI will call Coleman over for a medical examination. There'd be little purpose in Martinez trying to deceive anyone when the FAI doctor could just call him up on it.

[geysir]

With only days to go, our antenna on the injury front become very sensitised.
Every sports news bulletin is just about listening for no news.
How did Gibson do?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Something tells me we are going to be hearing a lot of "Seamus felt a bit of pain in his achilles." "The stitches came a bit loose." and "James would love to play but he's very tired. He felt a bit of tightness in his hamstring." on Monday morning.

I jinxed it.

[Closed Account]

I jinxed it.

Damn you. Tets, can we get him a week long ban?

[BonnieShels]

Best to re-open the Grealish thread as bait.

[DannyInvincible]

I jinxed it.

Oh, had that been self-parody?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Best to re-open the Grealish thread as bait.

That won't work. I took a self-imposed hiatus from that thread long before Tets locked it.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Oh, had that been self-parody?

Maybe. I am capable of self-deprecation. Either way we are all bricking it now aren't we?

If Wilson & McCarthy are out, the spine of the team has taken a huge hit.

[BonnieShels]

That won't work. I took a self-imposed hiatus from that thread long before Tets locked it.

You'r a glutton. It'san international week. You'll bite. :P


Maybe. I am capable of self-deprecation. Either way we are all bricking it now aren't we?

If Wilson & McCarthy are out, the spine of the team has taken a huge hit.

If McCarthy is out it is a massive loss. But indications from the game following on from the apparent "hammy" is that he's fine.

[DeLorean]

McCarthy and McGeady start against Wolfsburg, Coleman on the bench and Gibson not in the squad.

Live on 3e @ 6pm.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

McCarthy, still feeling the effects of his injury I see.

[Charlie Darwin]

Aaaand he's gone.

[The Fly]

McCarthy, still feeling the effects of his injury I see.

Yeah, he's just gone off.

[Charlie Darwin]

Same hamstring he missed the Ireland games with. Hopefully he's just faking this one like he did to get out of the Scotland game.

[geysir]

Another good man gone down. Has Roy K the most egged up face in football?

[Charlie Darwin]

McGeady just fluffed an open goal to make it 2-0.

[geysir]

ouch, McGeady pours a litre of ink onto his copybook.
Even Shane would have dispatched that one.

[Charlie Darwin]

Great pass to put Mirallas through now but the Belgian started his run too early. He looks very good in central areas (once it's not the centre of the goal).

[geysir]

Indeed, McGeady is growing into the vision that O'Neill has for him :)

[DeLorean]

Same hamstring he missed the Ireland games with. Hopefully he's just faking this one like he did to get out of the Scotland game.

The boy who cried wolf(sburg)

[paul_oshea]

Good old martinez.misses two ireland games with an injury martinez says needs to be managed yet he can play fine before and straight after ireland matches including one europa league game. And now he has played him last week and again mid week in a game that they didn't need to win.

Great management by martinez. Interesting if he turns out Saturday though :P

[DeLorean]

Martinez didn't look his normal chirpy self after Mirallas' goal to seal it. I wonder if the injury was on his mind, with Barry and Gibson also out it's a big blow. Everton have tough trips to Tottenham and Manchester City imminent as well, having just got back into top four contention. The Europa League probably offers their best chance of reaching the promised land though, at least they've top spot secured in the group now.

[Charlie Darwin]

I doubt he'll play on Saturday as Everton play on Sunday this week. But I'd be surprised if he was playing then either as he looked in a lot of discomfort and presumably won't make the mistake of playing on the injury again.

[DannyInvincible]

I didn't see the game; any indication as to how long he'll be out for? Is it a (more serious) tear?


Good old martinez.misses two ireland games with an injury martinez says needs to be managed yet he can play fine before and straight after ireland matches including one europa league game. And now he has played him last week and again mid week in a game that they didn't need to win.

Great management by martinez. Interesting if he turns out Saturday though :P

It may well have been poor judgment on the part of Martinez, but will it at least now expel any flirtations you might have had with the daft conspiracy theory?

[KK77]

Good old martinez.misses two ireland games with an injury martinez says needs to be managed yet he can play fine before and straight after ireland matches including one europa league game. And now he has played him last week and again mid week in a game that they didn't need to win.

Great management by martinez. Interesting if he turns out Saturday though :P

Yep poor old Roberto. Time for more of the perfect treatment!

[DeLorean]

McGeady just fluffed an open goal to make it 2-0.

Sweet Lord (https://vine.co/v/On7hz09pWT7)

[KK77]

I had heard whispers recently that the natives had started to become restless with Roberto and just after reading that the jeers started with ten minutes to the end last night. The reporter mentioned that performances have been extremely poor compared to the last season and that the honeymoon is well and truely over for Roberto. Interesting.........

[BonnieShels]

Not that you're (extremely) biased of course.

[DeLorean]

Extremely. Well Martinez would seem to be at the right club anyway, as they have a sensible chairman who's unlikely to do anything rash. They were always a bit of 'one good season, one poor season' club under Moyes anyway I think. They should give the Europa a right crack, the third placed CL teams don't look overly daunting if Manchester City, particularly, and Liverpool make the the knock-outs.

[DannyInvincible]

How many points did Everton have at this point last season? Are they doing that badly in comparison? The Europa League has been going pretty well for them.

[DeLorean]

They had 27 points, only 18 this time. Much bigger injury list I suppose and obviously the Europa never helps league form.

[KK77]

Not that you're (extremely) biased of course.

I wouldn't know if the reporter is biased myself.

[DeLorean]

How could anybody not love Roberto? He even makes wholesale changes for a dead rubber sound exciting! No mention of Gibson, do we know how long he's out for?

Grand Old Team (http://www.grandoldteam.com/2014/12/10/kone-oviedo-start/)

[KK77]

If anyone is ever over for an Everton match they should walk around the outside of the ground and see the photo timeline they have. It's very good and has some great photos. One or two of the great Peter Farrell. Never saw him play but knew him well and he was a real gentleman who had some great stories to tell.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Everton to play Dundalk in January or February next year as part of the Ben McLaughlin transfer back in 2012.

[Charlie Darwin]

That's a long time coming - two years since he left? Any idea how he's getting on?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Very understrength team tonight. No Irishmen in the squad.

Bit disappointing that Sam Byrne isn't even in the squad considering his age and the fact that he has more first team experience at a decent level than several lads in the squad.

Hopefully Coleman is more of a presence from hereon out. Bit disappointing that he hasn't featured after scoring in that Wolfsburg game.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/gibson-and-mccarthy-close-on-toffees-return-303353.html

Gibson & McCarthy very close to return.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/547738/Roberto-Martinez-Everton-James-McCarthy-injury-woes

Martinez trying to get to the bottom of McCarthy (and Everton's) injury problems this season. "11 different players have endured muscle strains amounting to 17 separate injuries."

https://stadium.aviva.ie/aviva-stadium-experiences/fan-blog/aiden-mcgeady-made-a-step-in-the-right-direction-in-2014-but-hes-got-work-to-do-year/

Daniel McDonnell blogs on Aiden McGeady.

[Charlie Darwin]

Assist from Coleman for Everton's opener, following a brilliant McGeady pass:

http://giant.gfycat.com/VioletSlushyAllosaurus.gif

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

McGeady & Coleman both involved in Everton's goal, Coleman with the assist, Everton 1-0 up.

Will have to start celebrating assists from Irish players as if they are goals because there has been/will be sweet f*** all of them this season.

[tricky_colour]

McGeady gave the ball away for the second goal

[CraftyToePoke]

McGeady gave the ball away for the second goal

And all game, from the highlights on MOTD

[tricky_colour]

And all game, from the highlights on MOTD

Was his worst game of the season according to the stats. 5.38 out of 10, not good.

[DannyInvincible]

Assist from Coleman for Everton's opener, following a brilliant McGeady pass:

http://giant.gfycat.com/VioletSlushyAllosaurus.gif

Was Coleman offside? Looked it to me.


Will have to start celebrating assists from Irish players as if they are goals because there has been/will be sweet f*** all of them this season.

Why exclude Irish scorers not based in the Premier League? Which Irish players have you been banking on scoring Premier League goals this season anyway? Walters has a few; the only other Premier League forwards we have are Doyle and Long.

[tricky_colour]

Was Coleman offside? Looked it to me.




Depend on how you judge it, if you look at the feet he is just onside, if you look at the centre of gravity, slightly offside.



A player is in an offside position if:


he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent



Problem is it does not specify how the position of a player is defined.
I guess in that case it is up to the ref to decide.

[Stuttgart88]

If any part of a player that can score a goal (so not his arm or hand basically) is ahead of the second last opponent then he is offside

[Charlie Darwin]

The gif is a bit ambiguous but the video replay at the time showed he was in line.

In other news, dropping McGeady has worked out badly for Martinez as they're 2-0 down to Hull's rabble. McCarthy and Gibson both miss out with injury.