North Tipp & District League 2012/13

[beautifulgame]

Best of luck to all NTDL teams in FAI this weekend. predicting wins for Arra Thurles and close one for Nenagh Town. think Celtic have a tough one but on their day could pull it off. great banter on forum this week. was at clough game last week and for my money 2-1 was just about right. clough a good side though and wont fall apart after that one. perfect fixture for them this week and celtic are also flying. think league is down to them three now and whether either of the two of them can get a result in Brickfields. town favs but if they win sunday might get distracted with national competitions.

[celticlads]

Nenagh AFC v Cashel Town

Clonmel Town v Nenagh Celtic

Clonmel Celtic v St. Michael’s

Vee Rovers v Thurles Town

Rosegreen Rangers v Valley Rangers

Arra Rovers v Moyglass United

ill go for
nenagh town
nenagh celtic
clonmel celtic
thurles
rosegreen
arra

cmon north tipp

[footballfanatic]

Nanagh town and cashel will be close, reckon the home team to win it by the odd goal.

Nanagh celtic to bate clonmel town, 2-1 win.

clonmel celtic to bate michaels it a battle.

Thurles town to bate vee rovers by 2or3.

Rosegreen to beat valley rangers aet.

Moyglass to beat arra about 4nil.

[celticlads]

Best of luck to all NTDL teams in FAI this weekend. predicting wins for Arra Thurles and close one for Nenagh Town. think Celtic have a tough one but on their day could pull it off. great banter on forum this week. was at clough game last week and for my money 2-1 was just about right. clough a good side though and wont fall apart after that one. perfect fixture for them this week and celtic are also flying. think league is down to them three now and whether either of the two of them can get a result in Brickfields. town favs but if they win sunday might get distracted with national competitions.

i agree town are favs alright but if clough can get a win sunday the points on the board count for alot, it will be very hard for us to go unbeaten for the rest of the season and i think we might need to if we want to win it

[panda87]

I think its poor form from some town posters on here to look down there noses at other clubs for not having pitches and facilities that are up to scratch. They have a huge catchment area and population and dont realise how hard other clubs are trying just to keep the show on the road.
When town play in their only big games of the season against non ntdl teams how many players do they field who came from the so called "unworthy teams".
Maybe some one can answer this. On towns starting 11 how many played for another club before town?
A bit of respect for the other teams in the league you play in. They provide you with half if not more of your team.

I agree somewhat with this post, there is a bit of snobbery sometimes looking at other teams facilities and it's funny in some ways because I doubt many of the people very much involved at the start of brickfields are on this forum. Of course the other side of it is that maybe it's no harm to be shaming clubs into improvements

Our field is not great, small and rough, and although that may have suited the way we played five years ago, it doesn't suit the way we are trying to play now. It's frustrating enough but you have to make do and to be honest it's funny sometimes knowing teams dread coming to us

It all works in a circle though, if the facilities improved then the standard of football would soon follow. Also it might make a few players more inclined to choose soccer over the gaa

[bawn79]

I agree somewhat with this post, there is a bit of snobbery sometimes looking at other teams facilities and it's funny in some ways because I doubt many of the people very much involved at the start of brickfields are on this forum. Of course the other side of it is that maybe it's no harm to be shaming clubs into improvements

Our field is not great, small and rough, and although that may have suited the way we played five years ago, it doesn't suit the way we are trying to play now. It's frustrating enough but you have to make do and to be honest it's funny sometimes knowing teams dread coming to us

It all works in a circle though, if the facilities improved then the standard of football would soon follow. Also it might make a few players more inclined to choose soccer over the gaa

Don't forget the development in Ballymackey also. Two new fields in progress with the use of the school field also and plans for astro-turf and dressing-rooms / community centre.

I wonder would Sallypark have any interest in becoming involved in using the facilities in Ballymackey / helping develop them. Seems crazy having three clubs in the Toomevara parish. I'm sure a lot of the Sallypark players play hurling with toom as it is.

[mr. man]

I agree somewhat with this post, there is a bit of snobbery sometimes looking at other teams facilities and it's funny in some ways because I doubt many of the people very much involved at the start of brickfields are on this forum. Of course the other side of it is that maybe it's no harm to be shaming clubs into improvements

Our field is not great, small and rough, and although that may have suited the way we played five years ago, it doesn't suit the way we are trying to play now. It's frustrating enough but you have to make do and to be honest it's funny sometimes knowing teams dread coming to us

It all works in a circle though, if the facilities improved then the standard of football would soon follow. Also it might make a few players more inclined to choose soccer over the gaa

I dont think its a question of shaming clubs into improvements panda ... I reckon most clubs would love to have their own field bought and be able to get to get funds for facilities .. Personally we have been trying to buy our own field for the last 4-5 years now , without any luck .. Its a pity cos we have the money in our club.. But for now we are stuck playing in our cow field , and some lads on this forum dont agree with our cow field , and dont like our cow field , but thats the way it is for us at the moment .. Snobbery definately wont shame clubs into improvement ..

[Wild Rover]

I hear Rearcross and Nenagh drew 3 all. A great game by all accounts with Rearcross grabbing two late goals to maintain the 3 point advantage. Was anyone at it? Good to see Rearcross doing well. They're a good bunch of lads up there with a very small pick. Nenagh Celtic away to Clonmel town on Sunday. Hope Nenagh get the result. Clonmel have a lot of good young lads but I'm sure Nenagh have their homework done.

[Tractor Boy]

Nenagh AFC 3-0 Cashel Town

I heard celtic went 1-0 up against clonmel town but were trailing 2-1 near the end, any update?

[Pride of Nenagh]

Bobblepark what u on about there is nobody looking down on any club over facilities, granted i do think clubs could do more to improve their pitches, in the end of the day we are suppose to be playing in a soccer league its not too much to ask or expect a pitch to be cut, lined and rolled is it? and we know more than most what it takes to run a club, it takes us up to 170 k a year to run our club which takes a huge effort from all involved, also i'm not bying that " huge catchment" statement there is 2 clubs in Nenagh and many more on the outskirts, and clubs like Rearcross, Borrisokane, Clodagh, Ballymackey, holycross are making great strides and are in areas that u wouldn't call hugely populated

[celticlads]

Nenagh AFC 3-0 Cashel Town

I heard celtic went 1-0 up against clonmel town but were trailing 2-1 near the end, any update?

well done to the north teams that got through, we lost 2-1 yet again clonmel town get the better of us in a tight game, we took the lead after bout 20 mins through jimmy but concided 2 goals before the break form corners poor defending form us, we tried hard to get back into the game without really creating much but we did have a great chance to level it but it went inches wide, anyway best of luck to clonmel in the next round

[panda87]

Don't forget the development in Ballymackey also. Two new fields in progress with the use of the school field also and plans for astro-turf and dressing-rooms / community centre.

I wonder would Sallypark have any interest in becoming involved in using the facilities in Ballymackey / helping develop them. Seems crazy having three clubs in the Toomevara parish. I'm sure a lot of the Sallypark players play hurling with toom as it is.

Not many hurling with toome but it might be an idea sharing facilities. Although some of our lads have a bit of grá for where we are now and I cant see them moving. we actually had a field in mind a couple of years back only a few miles closer to town, but it was turned down because it wasn't close enough!

Maybe the two clubs could merge down the line, Sallymackey Fc sounds good to me :)

[celticlads]

Not many hurling with toome but it might be an idea sharing facilities. Although some of our lads have a bit of grá for where we are now and I cant see them moving. we actually had a field in mind a couple of years back only a few miles closer to town, but it was turned down because it wasn't close enough!

Maybe the two clubs could merge down the line, Sallymackey Fc sounds good to me :)

Ballysally has a ring to it also

[Pride of Nenagh]

and to answer your stupid question Bobblepark we had 3 players out of the 11 that played elsewhere before us. Mark mc Kenna who was with celtic and is in his second season with us, Ponky who played with Toome and is with us for the last 4 or 5 years and mole who's with us for about the same, so dont be making stupid statements. Who ever said " unworthy teams" ??? There is no love lost with us and clough, never was, for reasons i will not get into.

[BobblePark]

and to answer your stupid question Bobblepark we had 3 players out of the 11 that played elsewhere before us. Mark mc Kenna who was with celtic and is in his second season with us, Ponky who played with Toome and is with us for the last 4 or 5 years and mole who's with us for about the same, so dont be making stupid statements. Who ever said " unworthy teams" ??? There is no love lost with us and clough, never was, for reasons i will not get into.


I'm not on here for bitching match despite what you might want but by anyones reckonings this "Tramore, pike, michaels, fairview boro are big games to us" is a put down to all other ntdl clubs, if it was suppost to mean something else then i misinterpreted it.
as for population versus number of clubs here's the actual data from census 20011

Nenagh 8000 2 clubs (4k per club ) thats assuming Town and Celtic are split 50/50
Templemore 1900 1 club ( 1.9k club )
Thurles 7400 4 clubs (1.85k per club ) assuming 4 clubs split evenly.
borrisoleigh 1200 1 club (1.2k per club )
borrisokane 1100 1 club (1.1k per club )
holycross 700 1 club (0.7k per club )
cloughjordan 400 (0.4k per club )
moneygall 300 (0.3k per club )
sallypark ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
Ballamackey ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
Ardcroney ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
rearcross ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available

Town have double the population of all other clubs in NTDL bar Celtic but thats assuming a 50/50 split.
you have great facilities and i'm sure alot of hard work but not anymore than the rest of us.

for every 2 euro nenagh get from someone in the community towards the club Moneygall need to get 20euro. yet the cost of land and cost of building does not differ in the factor of 10 to 1.
I dont realy care what your problem with cloughjordan is but if keep this attitude up you'll end up with the same problem with the rest of the league.
just some advise. take it or leave it I dont realy care.

[Drill Sergeant]

Talking about Cloughjordan, nice to see them win their game on Sunday last, against Borrisokane, keeps the table interesting.... I do not think you can justifiably argue about matters mentioned above. To see teams with virtually no choice in who plays from Sunday to Sunday compete in a league with a town of Nenaghs population, size and choice is impressive. They are given tough games from most teams. I think if they were fair they would have to admit that themselves.

[GComerford]

I don't think we've seen Mr. Man post about a refereeing "disgrace" this weekend. I assume all is well in the Cloughjordan camp in their evaluation of "Peter" Sunday.

[panda87]

I don't think we've seen Mr. Man post about a refereeing "disgrace" this weekend. I assume all is well in the Cloughjordan camp in their evaluation of "Peter" Sunday.

This post is funny, we await mr mans response. He is now the torch carrier for equal rights in Ntdl, in mr man we trust :D

I wasn't at the game gcomerford, two penos in the last few minutes, were they harsh calls?

[bawn79]

Not many hurling with toome but it might be an idea sharing facilities. Although some of our lads have a bit of grá for where we are now and I cant see them moving. we actually had a field in mind a couple of years back only a few miles closer to town, but it was turned down because it wasn't close enough!

Maybe the two clubs could merge down the line, Sallymackey Fc sounds good to me :)

With a name like that we would be just opening ourselves up to bullying!

Well I think it would be a shame to buy another field for soccer in the area and to be going around to a lot of the same people looking for donations. Would make more sense to be all working together on a ground-share or under the one club banner. I hear we are playing ye in the munster junior cup this sunday so all talk of cooperation will have to be put on hold till after that.

[mr. man]

I don't think we've seen Mr. Man post about a refereeing "disgrace" this weekend. I assume all is well in the Cloughjordan camp in their evaluation of "Peter" Sunday.

All is well with us thanks ! :o regarding the game- We got out of jail in this one.. We were shocking in the 1st half ( worst we played all season ) .. We played well enough in the 2nd half . The 1st peno was very very harsh on borris and was awarded with about 8 mins to go.We got the 2nd peno on the 90 min mark .. This one was a definate penalty i thought .. I would imagine borris will not be hapy with the ref in question performance and i am going to keep quiet on the matter . The last time i mentioned a refs name on this was when i had a few pints in me so it was really all the drinks fault !!! Borris deserved something from the game and they played quiet well . I hope they pick up wins soon and i am sure they will . We were delighted / relieved to get the 3 points ..
Super pitch up there in borris btw . .. It a small bit better than our " cow field "

[mr. man]

He is now the torch carrier for equal rights in Ntdl, in mr man we trust :D



:D I dont have time to carry this torch that you speak of !! :p

[redsect]

havent been over that way in years but if ye have a level field and dressing rooms and showers thats all ye need, do ye still play beside the hurling field?

We play up at the top end now, the pitch is quite good, maybe not the most level but it stands up to the weather superbly and is almost always playable when other pitches aren't. What really stands to us are the rest of the facilities, the changing rooms, the showers, the parking space etc.

I know not every club is in a position to be able to play somewhere that has such great facilities but some of the places we have travelled the last 2 seasons are dreadful.

[panda87]

With a name like that we would be just opening ourselves up to bullying!

Well I think it would be a shame to buy another field for soccer in the area and to be going around to a lot of the same people looking for donations. Would make more sense to be all working together on a ground-share or under the one club banner. I hear we are playing ye in the munster junior cup this sunday so all talk of cooperation will have to be put on hold till after that.

Hey now, taking a slagging is one of the fundamental principles of our club! :)

Ya it might be a lot of the same people that we would be hitting for money, so maybe there's something in it. It's possible that ballymackey may be too far from latteragh, two opposite ends of the parish. An idea worth considering though

Ya MjC at thr weekend, will that game be on the new field?

[celticlads]

We play up at the top end now, the pitch is quite good, maybe not the most level but it stands up to the weather superbly and is almost always playable when other pitches aren't. What really stands to us are the rest of the facilities, the changing rooms, the showers, the parking space etc.

I know not every club is in a position to be able to play somewhere that has such great facilities but some of the places we have travelled the last 2 seasons are dreadful.

ya i know the facilities down there and i remember the pitch being at the front of the hurling pitch, lovely clubhouse there

[GComerford]

This post is funny, we await mr mans response. He is now the torch carrier for equal rights in Ntdl, in mr man we trust :D

I wasn't at the game gcomerford, two penos in the last few minutes, were they harsh calls?
Haha. I wasn't at the game myself, Panda, but from what I heard, the lads felt very aggrieved. I was just surprised that Mr. Man wasn't marching to Thurles in protest, torch in hand. Well, as soon as he knew which side of Clough he had to march from. :p


All is well with us thanks ! :o regarding the game- [...]
Whatever the circumstances, fairplay to your team. I'm sure that losing the Nenagh game was demoralizing, which probably attributed to your performance this weekend. Well-played to your penalty-kicker, too. I'd say it took some bottle on the second penalty. Keeps the division interesting at least. Hopefully, our A team can take stock from pushing you close.

And all credit to the people managing our club over the years for our set-up in Borris.

[celticlads]

and to answer your stupid question Bobblepark we had 3 players out of the 11 that played elsewhere before us. Mark mc Kenna who was with celtic and is in his second season with us, Ponky who played with Toome and is with us for the last 4 or 5 years and mole who's with us for about the same, so dont be making stupid statements. Who ever said " unworthy teams" ??? There is no love lost with us and clough, never was, for reasons i will not get into.

what was the starting 11?

[panda87]

what was the starting 11?

I'm sure it's on their website, get with the times celticlads! :)
I think you can find out what the starting eleven for each game along with what they had for breakfast :P

[skunk]

I'm sure it's on their website, get with the times celticlads! :)
I think you can find out what the starting eleven for each game along with what they had for breakfast :P
Decent website in fairness, progressive club on and off the field, a few headbangers involved, but every club has a few........... :)

[celticlads]

I'm sure it's on their website, get with the times celticlads! :)
I think you can find out what the starting eleven for each game along with what they had for breakfast :P

very good:o but i cant seem to find it, i think they update it form week to week maybe mr man could tell us the starting 11?

[panda87]

Decent website in fairness, progressive club on and off the field, a few headbangers involved, but every club has a few........... :)

The website is excellent all joking aside, think Jon Delaney was the man who put a lot of time into it and fair play it's a credit to him.

[redsect]

ya i know the facilities down there and i remember the pitch being at the front of the hurling pitch, lovely clubhouse there

Cheers, ya there was a lot of money spent on the clubhouse in recent years and its a testament to all the clubs in the parish. I think they stuck us up the top to get us out of the way though :P hopefully this year we can get out of the 3rd division and that might help the grounds shove on another small bit.

There are quite a few clubs with decent facilities around north tipp, in time hopefully every club will have something put in place at their grounds

[bawn79]

Hey now, taking a slagging is one of the fundamental principles of our club! :)

Ya it might be a lot of the same people that we would be hitting for money, so maybe there's something in it. It's possible that ballymackey may be too far from latteragh, two opposite ends of the parish. An idea worth considering though

Ya MjC at thr weekend, will that game be on the new field?

I don't think so, had to put some drainage in at the start of the summer and still waiting for it to kick in.

Its funny you would think that maybe the FAI would have one guy that would help all teams around the country with design pitches. Even development is starting from scratch on things like this.

Well personally I'm of the opinion of fewer clubs in North Tipp with better facilities. I think its the only way that clubs will be able to challenge Nenagh.

Re ground-sharing - this is my personal opinion rather than the clubs but Id be a strong supporter of it. Would be nice to at least explore the idea - particulary if ye are serious about buying a field. Lots of different options.

[celticlads]

I don't think so, had to put some drainage in at the start of the summer and still waiting for it to kick in.

Its funny you would think that maybe the FAI would have one guy that would help all teams around the country with design pitches. Even development is starting from scratch on things like this.

Well personally I'm of the opinion of fewer clubs in North Tipp with better facilities. I think its the only way that clubs will be able to challenge Nenagh.

Re ground-sharing - this is my personal opinion rather than the clubs but Id be a strong supporter of it. Would be nice to at least explore the idea - particulary if ye are serious about buying a field. Lots of different options.

i think you might be on to something there but i dont know how many clubs would be interested in sharing, to be fair there is a huge pool of players to choose form in nenagh, both us and town have 3 junior teams and id say if you counted the amount of players form nenagh playing with other clubs id say you could have another couple of teams, in fairness thats hard to compete with and that is reflected in how long the premier division has been in nenagh, i think its 12 years since a team form outside nenagh have won it, i think a prime example of this is borroway and thurles celtic sharing the same field but 2 different clubs surely if they joined together they would be a strong enough outfit but then again i dont know the ins and outs of what goes on down there

[BobblePark]

I don't think so, had to put some drainage in at the start of the summer and still waiting for it to kick in.

Its funny you would think that maybe the FAI would have one guy that would help all teams around the country with design pitches. Even development is starting from scratch on things like this.

Well personally I'm of the opinion of fewer clubs in North Tipp with better facilities. I think its the only way that clubs will be able to challenge Nenagh.
.

Amazing the the FAI dont have a go to guy for pitch design and maintenance. You could end up paying alot of money to end up with a level but boggy field. Do they even have an advice line or guidelines for consideration when building a pitch??

They have guidlines for maintaining artificial pitches but not grass:confused:

Regarding club amalgamation you might be right. It would certanly make for a more competetive league with better facilities.
I can envisage alot of promlems with in fighting though.
i.e where facilities are built, more players playing from one side vs the other etc, etc

It would take some time for the 2 clubs to realy become 1.

[Billygoat]

:cig:
I'm not on here for bitching match despite what you might want but by anyones reckonings this "Tramore, pike, michaels, fairview boro are big games to us" is a put down to all other ntdl clubs, if it was suppost to mean something else then i misinterpreted it.
as for population versus number of clubs here's the actual data from census 20011

Nenagh 8000 2 clubs (4k per club ) thats assuming Town and Celtic are split 50/50
Templemore 1900 1 club ( 1.9k club )
Thurles 7400 4 clubs (1.85k per club ) assuming 4 clubs split evenly.
borrisoleigh 1200 1 club (1.2k per club )
borrisokane 1100 1 club (1.1k per club )
holycross 700 1 club (0.7k per club )
cloughjordan 400 (0.4k per club )
moneygall 300 (0.3k per club )
sallypark ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
Ballamackey ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
Ardcroney ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available
rearcross ??? (0.2/0.3K per club ) aproximation as no figures available

Town have double the population of all other clubs in NTDL bar Celtic but thats assuming a 50/50 split.
you have great facilities and i'm sure alot of hard work but not anymore than the rest of us.

for every 2 euro nenagh get from someone in the community towards the club Moneygall need to get 20euro. yet the cost of land and cost of building does not differ in the factor of 10 to 1.
I dont realy care what your problem with cloughjordan is but if keep this attitude up you'll end up with the same problem with the rest of the league.
just some advise. take it or leave it I dont realy care.

[Billygoat]

you can't beat "Goggle Search"

[celticlads]

Amazing the the FAI dont have a go to guy for pitch design and maintenance. You could end up paying alot of money to end up with a level but boggy field. Do they even have an advice line or guidelines for consideration when building a pitch??

They have guidlines for maintaining artificial pitches but not grass:confused:

Regarding club amalgamation you might be right. It would certanly make for a more competetive league with better facilities.
I can envisage alot of promlems with in fighting though.
i.e where facilities are built, more players playing from one side vs the other etc, etc

It would take some time for the 2 clubs to realy become 1.

what club are you with bobble?

[panda87]

what club are you with bobble?

I'm going for moneygall man but I could be way off, any other guesses?

[celticlads]

I'm going for moneygall man but I could be way off, any other guesses?

i think clough

[mr. man]

i think clough

I wouldnt imagine he is from clough , although ya'd never know .. Ill find out for ye !! :)

[bawn79]

Regarding club amalgamation you might be right. It would certanly make for a more competetive league with better facilities.
I can envisage alot of promlems with in fighting though.
i.e where facilities are built, more players playing from one side vs the other etc, etc

It would take some time for the 2 clubs to realy become 1.

At ballymackey we are undergoing that at the moment. Basically the former Toomevara players (who were a Premier Division side) are now playing for us. It takes time but basically by the time the u-16s and u-18s come through no one will know the difference.

Similar thing happened with Arra Rovers when Newtown Celtic folded. Its funny when they joined they were basically two Premier Division clubs but now they are struggling in the 1st!

[Diablito]

I agree with the prospect of teams amalgamating and agree with bobblepark, theres a whole heap of problems - politics being one of them. It really does depend on the type of lads running the club..It would really help improve underage levels though, at the moment we loose players under the age of 16 to all our neighbouring clubs as we just can't field the teams. They've all been playing travelling and playing underage at other clubs. They'll probably end up staying with those clubs in the future too as they played all the way up through the ranks, and i wouldnt blame them. Amalgamation solves problems and creates some i think - best of both worlds.

[panda87]

The north tipp board did say a couple of years ago that two clubs could amalgamate at underage level to solce tge problem of not having enough players to field teams.

Not sure how that would work if you had youth players on one of the junior teams but it is a good idea.

[Diablito]

The north tipp board did say a couple of years ago that two clubs could amalgamate at underage level to solce tge problem of not having enough players to field teams.

Not sure how that would work if you had youth players on one of the junior teams but it is a good idea.

Its a good theory, could work at the younger aged teams but how do you get teenagers back from the likes of Ardcroney and Town when they have tasted a bit of success for example??...There comes the whole argument of poaching players....

[beautifulgame]

if you build it they will come .. i think was the saying. yes town have a huge pick on players but celtic have the same pick. the difference the facilities ... end of story. An all weather pitch and 2 training grounds under lights. proper dressing rooms with hot water showers. why would any player worth his salt want to play anywhere else?? its nothing to do with towns or population if i was playing i would be in nenagh a,b,c whatever. clubs need to cop on a stop whinging.... if you play in a cow field you attract cows. as for the FAI the have a grassroots development department that travel the country and set up club facilities. they have been at 4 clubs in north tipp in the last year and all but nenagh & rearcross took their advice thus the facilities there. in ballymackey they were told we are all farmers and there is nothing you can tell us about laying pitches that we dont know. 1 year and €10/15k later still no pitches. i would love nothing better than to see someone take on nenagh but until clubs get serious it will be another 12 years before anybody gets near them.

[celticlads]

if you build it they will come .. i think was the saying. yes town have a huge pick on players but celtic have the same pick. the difference the facilities ... end of story. An all weather pitch and 2 training grounds under lights. proper dressing rooms with hot water showers. why would any player worth his salt want to play anywhere else?? its nothing to do with towns or population if i was playing i would be in nenagh a,b,c whatever. clubs need to cop on a stop whinging.... if you play in a cow field you attract cows. as for the FAI the have a grassroots development department that travel the country and set up club facilities. they have been at 4 clubs in north tipp in the last year and all but nenagh & rearcross took their advice thus the facilities there. in ballymackey they were told we are all farmers and there is nothing you can tell us about laying pitches that we dont know. 1 year and €10/15k later still no pitches. i would love nothing better than to see someone take on nenagh but until clubs get serious it will be another 12 years before anybody gets near them.

while i agree with most of what you said i dont understand what you mean by (why would any player worth his salt want to play anywhere else??), how about loyalty and tradition or even playing for the team where you grew u, any of these would be a good reason for not wanting to play for town and i can tell you there is plenty of lads around that are worth their salt, you are right about the pick in nenagh though it their for both teams

[mr. man]

if you build it they will come .. i think was the saying. yes town have a huge pick on players but celtic have the same pick. the difference the facilities ... end of story. An all weather pitch and 2 training grounds under lights. proper dressing rooms with hot water showers. why would any player worth his salt want to play anywhere else?? its nothing to do with towns or population if i was playing i would be in nenagh a,b,c whatever. clubs need to cop on a stop whinging.... if you play in a cow field you attract cows. as for the FAI the have a grassroots development department that travel the country and set up club facilities. they have been at 4 clubs in north tipp in the last year and all but nenagh & rearcross took their advice thus the facilities there. in ballymackey they were told we are all farmers and there is nothing you can tell us about laying pitches that we dont know. 1 year and €10/15k later still no pitches. i would love nothing better than to see someone take on nenagh but until clubs get serious it will be another 12 years before anybody gets near them.

Well i can tell you that there wouldnt be a hope in hell that any of us would want to play for nenagh town and there is lots of us worth our salt as you say !! Its called loyalty as celtic lads said .. Loyalty means more than facilities and it always should .. All clubs would love to have the facilities town have and they are trying and not whinging ..


if you play in a cow field you attract cows.

Congrats !! You have won the most retarded comment of the year award !! well done !

[beautifulgame]

fair point tradition and growing up with a team and i wish more kids would stay and play locally then the schoolboy leagues wouldnt be so one-sided. the point i was making that there comes a point in time where every decent player will ask themselves what am i doing here when he could be playing and more importantly training on a decent pitch every week. sadly very few will stay put. not getting at celtic i think you have done a great job in the tech and you have a good core of true celts but when it comes to it top players (kids and adults) go to town for the facilities. nothing to do with the pick or population. theres 4 teams in clonmel and the best teams have the best facilities therefore the best players. theres 12/14 teams in limerick and the best players play on the best pitches pike etc. every now and again a team will push close to the league only to lose all their better players to the top team with the top facilities. look around every league in the country the best team is the one with the best facilities - they have their pick of any player they want. clubs need to wise up and sort themselves out. personally i think the league should not allow any more teams to form and force the smaller ones to amalgamate. 6 teams in thurles and not one worth going to watch - 2 is enough and let them pool their resources to come up with decent facilities. the sallymackey shout isnt a bad one for both if either want to progress to challenge nenagh - but it wont happen.

[Wild Rover]

Where r Celtic b and town b on tomorrow?

[beautifulgame]

trying???? what efforts have you made to improve your facilities in the last ten years??? your still in the same field . no plan no vision just words. town have their facilities for two reasons vision & hard work - you said it yourself yours is a cowfield and frankly not suitable for premier soccer. as for my retarded statement its the truth the best player to come out of clough in its history is in with town cos he wont play in that field and wants to progress. born and bred in clough 15 years of age but still has the wherewithall to choose town. i have no connection to town but am amazed that clubs cant see why players "drift" in there. watch two or three years time and youll barely field a team at any age - they will all be in ballymackey when they open the new grounds and dressing rooms..whoops another retarded statement.